Canadian Judge says Jehovah Witness teen w/Cancer cannot refuse blood transfusions | |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a tough issue. On the one hand I have long resolved that I would fight to the death against anyone trying to hospitalize, treat or adminster medications against my will... ...But then these people are trying to refuse on horseshit religious grounds so that ends the arrgument right there. That said if I were in that girlsī shoes letīs just say that there would be a lot of other people needing blood transfusions before they finally strapped me down. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Blood is big business and there are other options out there. Do the research. Anyway, they already are denying people their wishes in medical treatments and once they ignore religious reasons the sky is the limit. Get ready to say bye bye to any rights you thought you had. |
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Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boyd said yesterday that by March 15, the girlīs hemoglobin dropped to "well below" levels where a transfusion is normally given. People do very well below the levels they have set to give transfusions. Also, interesting that a girl of 14 is old enough without anyones consent to go and get an abortion which could kill her but is not old enough to say no to a medical treatment that really could cause her problems in the long run. But not matter, they are infringing on her religious beliefs. If she can explain her beliefs she is old enough to decide for herself. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...But then these people are trying to refuse on horseshit religious grounds so that ends the arrgument right there. Religious beliefs are not horseshit as you call them. They are deeply held personal beliefs. Arenīt people allowed their beliefs? Do you want someone deciding for you what your beliefs should be, religious or not? Do you want someone else deciding medical treatments for you? Frankly, religious beliefs are about the only thing guaranteeing freedom of speech or any freedoms these days. Once they are gone you will have absolutely no rights whatsoever. Even your īrightī to get on the internet and express your opinions will be gone. Your government will be able to do what they want to you when they want to. |
Anonymous Coward 12/08/2005 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real reason is because the parents transfered title of this child to the Canadian government when they registered its birth. The government now has title/ownership of this child. That is why family child and services have more power than judges. The child does not belong to the parents. Take a look at any birth certificate. You wonīt find the parents as being the title holders. It is the province/state within which the child was born. They change the child into a "person" = corporation = ALL CAPITAL LETTER NAME. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 796456 ![]() 10/17/2009 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Boyd said yesterday that by March 15, the girl´s hemoglobin dropped to "well below" levels where a transfusion is normally given. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 0People do very well below the levels they have set to give transfusions. Also, interesting that a girl of 14 is old enough without anyones consent to go and get an abortion which could kill her but is not old enough to say no to a medical treatment that really could cause her problems in the long run. But not matter, they are infringing on her religious beliefs. If she can explain her beliefs she is old enough to decide for herself. I agree. Old enough to kill a baby but not old enough to say no to blood and to control her life. It is all about money. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692844 ![]() 10/17/2009 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, I was a JW, grew up one..it IS a horse shit religion. False prophecies, brainwashing, threats..it's a cult in every sense of the word... They even believe that a low-ranking angel was really Jesus Christ the son of God..chew on that for awhile. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 672251 ![]() 10/17/2009 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real reason is because the parents transfered title of this child to the Canadian government when they registered its birth. The government now has title/ownership of this child. That is why family child and services have more power than judges. The child does not belong to the parents. Take a look at any birth certificate. You won´t find the parents as being the title holders. It is the province/state within which the child was born. They change the child into a "person" = corporation = ALL CAPITAL LETTER NAME. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 0You are absolutely right!! Mothers would be very wise to give birth at home and refuse to "register" the birth. As soon as you "register" something, you literally transfer ownership. |
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cloud4strife User ID: 757498 ![]() 10/17/2009 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately their governing body makes this decision for them. They have no free thought on the matter. Be forced not to have a transfusion by their god. Or be forced to have one by their government. Too bad people let others make their decisions for them. I believe one day Jehovah's witnesses will drop this whole blood problem and integrate into mainstream religion anyway. Last Edited by cloud4strife on 10/17/2009 09:19 PM Apology in advance for killin your thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 692844 ![]() 10/17/2009 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought it said don't eat blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 789591Yes, it says don't eat blood of certain animals, this has NOTHING to do with blood transfusions...JW's say that it's ok to take plasma, but if one red blood cell is in the plasma, doesn't it make it wrong according to them? They are so ass-backwards and have so many double standards it's not funny... Look up how they believe that Michael the Archangel was Jesus Christ...it'll make your head spin how they blaspheme the Lord assuming he's a low-ranking Angel... Satan was a Cherubim...which makes Satan higher ranking than Jesus according to JWs... Sickening. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 672251 ![]() 10/17/2009 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real reason is because the parents transfered title of this child to the Canadian government when they registered its birth. The government now has title/ownership of this child. That is why family child and services have more power than judges. The child does not belong to the parents. Take a look at any birth certificate. You won´t find the parents as being the title holders. It is the province/state within which the child was born. They change the child into a "person" = corporation = ALL CAPITAL LETTER NAME. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 672251You are absolutely right!! Mothers would be very wise to give birth at home and refuse to "register" the birth. As soon as you "register" something, you literally transfer ownership. I applied for my "live birth" registration and when it arrived, one thing really stood out. My mother was listed as the "INFORMANT." What is an informant? According to the Black's Law Dictionary: "A person who informs or prefers an accusation against another, whom he suspects of the violation of some penal statute. An undisclosed person who confidentially volunteers material information of law violations to officers and does not include persons who supply information only after being interviewed by police officers, or who give information as witnesses during course of investigation." Now, pray tell, how in the hell was I, at the age of 7 days (date of registration), able to be in violation of some punishable (penal) violation??? Can you now see just how sick and deranged your own government is under the control of TPTB? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 796527 ![]() 10/17/2009 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...But then these people are trying to refuse on horseshit religious grounds so that ends the arrgument right there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 0Religious beliefs are not horseshit as you call them. They are deeply held personal beliefs. Aren´t people allowed their beliefs? Do you want someone deciding for you what your beliefs should be, religious or not? Do you want someone else deciding medical treatments for you? Frankly, religious beliefs are about the only thing guaranteeing freedom of speech or any freedoms these days. Once they are gone you will have absolutely no rights whatsoever. Even your ´right´ to get on the internet and express your opinions will be gone. Your government will be able to do what they want to you when they want to. get off your high horse shit asshat |
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