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PROVEN “Supriem Rockefeller” A HUGE FRAUD OF A STORY!

 
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Supriem Rockefeller allegedly funding the Temple Institute in Jerusalem to build the Temple in Jerusalem

Temple Institute Denies “Supriem Rockefeller” Links


(Israelnationalnews.com) In response to wide-spread reports that the Temple Institute of Jerusalem has linked up with “Supriem David Rockefeller” in a scheme to raise funds for the “rebuilding of the Third Temple,” the Temple Institute has issued the following disclaimer:

“The Temple Institute strongly protests the use of its name and that of Rabbi Chaim Richman in a series of fraudulent press releases and advertising claims that are now circulating on the Internet.


“The Temple Institute has no relationship with Kinti Mining Group, “Supriem David Rockefeller,” Frank Love, or the “Temple Now Project.” Their claims that they “will be raising funds to go towards building the third Temple in Jerusalem in strict co-ordinance with the Temple Institute and Rabbi Hiam Richman [sp]” are false and malicious, and their apparent intentions are to take advantage of the Temple Institute’s sincere supporters and rob them of funds. The Temple Institute advises its friends and supporters to avoid being taken in by this scam. We hereby reiterate and reassure our friends and supporters that these groups and individuals are not authorized to represent the Institute, speak in its name, or to solicit or collect funds designated for the Holy Temple, in any manner whatsoever.”

Its FRAUDULENT STOCK VENTURE!

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this seems to be definitive once and for all
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so much for Supriem
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no doubt about this now
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It's not a scam. It's for realz!!!
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It's not a scam. It's for realz!!!
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Supriem Rockefeller claimed he was working with Temple institute In Jerusalem to build the Temple. They said he has no connection to them.

This guy is not part of the Rockefeller family and is running money scams



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I've been calling out this hoax since day one. pennywise dance
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FYI, now you know anyone pushing this bullshit is also a hoaxer. s226
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Yeah now that the "cats out the bag" it suddenly a big hoax. Sorry I'm not buying this story. Too much substantial evidence exposed and reveals that Supriem personifies the evil he espouses. As the saying goes "truth is stranger than fiction".
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH
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So who controls the Temple Institute? Scripture teaches that the AntiMessiah will build the earthly Third Temple and demand worship.
The True Jerusalem comes down from heaven as a bride adorned for her husband.
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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Its just a scam it was always a scam but try telling people that
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FYI, now you know anyone pushing this bullshit is also a hoaxer. s226
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I always new that I was telling people that 1 year ago they were saying I was lying lmao
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH

So who controls the Temple Institute? Scripture teaches that the AntiMessiah will build the earthly Third Temple and demand worship.
The True Jerusalem comes down from heaven as a bride adorned for her husband.
 Quoting: Tirzah



selfless God fearing and loving kind people I know them

they say they have nothing to do with Supriem Rockefeller

he is a lier
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH

So who controls the Temple Institute? Scripture teaches that the AntiMessiah will build the earthly Third Temple and demand worship.
The True Jerusalem comes down from heaven as a bride adorned for her husband.
 Quoting: Tirzah



This is what the Bible says


Tanach - Ezekiel Chapter 45

1. And, when you shall divide by lot the land for inheritance, you shall offer a gift to the Lord, a holy portion of the land; the length shall be the length of twenty five thousand reeds, and the width shall be ten thousand. This shall be holy in all its surrounding borders.
2. Of this there shall be a square plot for the sanctuary, five hundred in length by five hundred in width, and fifty cubits around for its open spaces.
3. And of this measure shall you measure a length of twenty five thousand, and a width of ten thousand; and in it shall be the sanctuary and the most holy place.
4. The holy portion of the land shall be for the priests, the ministers of the sanctuary, who come near to minister to the Lord; and it shall be a place for their houses, and a holy place for the sanctuary.
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH

So who controls the Temple Institute? Scripture teaches that the AntiMessiah will build the earthly Third Temple and demand worship.
The True Jerusalem comes down from heaven as a bride adorned for her husband.



This is what the Bible says


Tanach - Ezekiel Chapter 45

1. And, when you shall divide by lot the land for inheritance, you shall offer a gift to the Lord, a holy portion of the land; the length shall be the length of twenty five thousand reeds, and the width shall be ten thousand. This shall be holy in all its surrounding borders.
2. Of this there shall be a square plot for the sanctuary, five hundred in length by five hundred in width, and fifty cubits around for its open spaces.
3. And of this measure shall you measure a length of twenty five thousand, and a width of ten thousand; and in it shall be the sanctuary and the most holy place.
4. The holy portion of the land shall be for the priests, the ministers of the sanctuary, who come near to minister to the Lord; and it shall be a place for their houses, and a holy place for the sanctuary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 884688

I'm sorry but I do not accept this temple in Ezekiel represents the building of the third temple. Ezekiel was still in Babylon when he had this vision. The second temple had not been built. When Yehoshua HaMashiach came two thousand years ago he completed the requirement for the blood sacrifice of animals by dieing himself for our sins.
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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FYI, now you know anyone pushing this bullshit is also a hoaxer. s226

I always new that I was telling people that 1 year ago they were saying I was lying lmao
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Keep bumping this thread anytime someone promotes this hoax. Yesterday I saw that Freeman is now promoting it. I emailed him and told him it's a hoax but he didn't respond.
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH

So who controls the Temple Institute? Scripture teaches that the AntiMessiah will build the earthly Third Temple and demand worship.
The True Jerusalem comes down from heaven as a bride adorned for her husband.



This is what the Bible says


Tanach - Ezekiel Chapter 45

1. And, when you shall divide by lot the land for inheritance, you shall offer a gift to the Lord, a holy portion of the land; the length shall be the length of twenty five thousand reeds, and the width shall be ten thousand. This shall be holy in all its surrounding borders.
2. Of this there shall be a square plot for the sanctuary, five hundred in length by five hundred in width, and fifty cubits around for its open spaces.
3. And of this measure shall you measure a length of twenty five thousand, and a width of ten thousand; and in it shall be the sanctuary and the most holy place.
4. The holy portion of the land shall be for the priests, the ministers of the sanctuary, who come near to minister to the Lord; and it shall be a place for their houses, and a holy place for the sanctuary.

I'm sorry but I do not accept this temple in Ezekiel represents the building of the third temple. Ezekiel was still in Babylon when he had this vision. The second temple had not been built. When Yehoshua HaMashiach came two thousand years ago he completed the requirement for the blood sacrifice of animals by dieing himself for our sins.
 Quoting: Tirzah



Ezekiels prophesy is end days

The design of the Temple in his prophesy is nothing like the 2nd temple

further clarification in this matter from the Prophet Ezekiel:

"And he brought me back to the door of the house; and, behold, waters flowed from under the threshold of the house eastward; for the front of the house faced to the east, and water run out from beneath the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
2. And he brought me out by the way of the gate northward, and led me around the way outside to the outer gate by the way that faces to the east; and, behold, there ran out water on the right side.
3. And when the man who had the line in his hand went out eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the water; the water reached the ankles.
4. And he measured a thousand, and brought me through the water; the water reached the knees. And he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the water reached the loins.
5. And he measured a further thousand; and it was a stream that I could not pass over; for the water had risen, water to swim in, a stream that could not be passed over.
6. And he said to me, Son of man, have you seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the edge of the stream.
7. And when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the stream were many trees on one side and on the other.
8. And he said to me, These waters flow out towards the eastern region, and go down to the Arabah, to the sea; and when they enter the sea, the waters shall be healed.
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This is from his description of the "future" temple, as it obviously has not happened yet

" For I will gather you from all the nations and take you from all the countries, and bring you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you and you shall be clean from all of your uncleanness, and from your idols I will cleanse you. A new heart I will give you. A new spirit I will put in you, I will take the stony heart out of your flesh. I will give you a heart of flesh. I will put my spirit within you and cause you to follow my statutes and keep my judgments to do them. You will dwell in the land I gave to your fathers. You will be my people and I will be your God. I will save you from your uncleanness. I will call the corn and make it abundant. You will no more receive the reproach of famine among the nations " (36:24-30)

THIS IS DEFINITELY MESSIANIC

read you Bible there is no way this Ezekial is second temple

or look at the material at this link

there is no doubt concerning this

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I've been calling out this hoax since day one. pennywise dance
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iamwith
Rom 10:9 KJV - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart, that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 KJV - For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 KJV - For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him, shall not be ashamed.
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I've been calling out this hoax since day one. pennywise dance
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So have I
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH

So who controls the Temple Institute? Scripture teaches that the AntiMessiah will build the earthly Third Temple and demand worship.
The True Jerusalem comes down from heaven as a bride adorned for her husband.
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Daniel 9:27 says differently
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH

So who controls the Temple Institute? Scripture teaches that the AntiMessiah will build the earthly Third Temple and demand worship.
The True Jerusalem comes down from heaven as a bride adorned for her husband.



Daniel 9:27 says differently
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Dear AC,
Can you explain the signifigance of the Second Temple?
Why would YHWH give Ezekiel the blueprint for the 3rd temple before the 2nd temple had been built.
I've been a believer for many years and yet in all of these years I have yet to hear anyone teach about the prophetic signifigance of the Second Temple. If the first temple was a dwelling place for the Name of Yehowah then the Second Temple was signifigant in that it was the dwelling place for the name of the Son. Read Zechariah 3 and 6 for a revelation on who would be the builder of the 2nd temple. Who laid the foundation of this House and who would bring forth the Head Stone with shoutings of Grace Grace? Why was the glory of the latter house greater than the former house. Who would cleanse the Second House before he offered himself up as the Passover Lamb to forever complete the work of redeemption for mankind. Why did the Sons of Zadok (Levites) officiate as both Priest and King in the Second Temple? See Ezekial 44:15. Who was the 24th High Priest from Aaron who would sit in Rule in this Temple and be called the Branch? See. Zech. 3&6. What was this High Priest Fathers Name? When Messiah returns to this earth what will be the Name he will be Called? What will be the Name of the Bride (hint, it will be the same name as her bridegroom)
None of this can be understood without understanding the Second Temple and it's spiritual importance. Why invent a 3rd milinneal temple?
The Book of Revelations explains for clearly The New Jerusalem. It will descend to this earth from above.
Ezekiels Temple is is an almagamation of both a physical house and spirtual house whose maker is YHWH Elohim.
To believe that the Temple in Ezekiel has yet to be built discredits the work of Messiah. The New Jerusalem is a city of living stones coming out of Heaven as Bride adorned for Her Bridegroom. The sacrificial system of sin offereings has been forever abolished by the work of Our Kohen Gadol Yehoshua Ha Mashiach. Interesting that the Yehoshua Ben Yehozadek was the one who built this House but Zerubabel decendant from the lineage of King David would bring for the Cheif corner stone with shouting of Grace Grace. And upon this stone the capstone would be the seven eyes of YHWH. And Yehowah will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH

So who controls the Temple Institute? Scripture teaches that the AntiMessiah will build the earthly Third Temple and demand worship.
The True Jerusalem comes down from heaven as a bride adorned for her husband.



Daniel 9:27 says differently

Dear AC,
Can you explain the signifigance of the Second Temple?
Why would YHWH give Ezekiel the blueprint for the 3rd temple before the 2nd temple had been built.
I've been a believer for many years and yet in all of these years I have yet to hear anyone teach about the prophetic signifigance of the Second Temple. If the first temple was a dwelling place for the Name of Yehowah then the Second Temple was signifigant in that it was the dwelling place for the name of the Son. Read Zechariah 3 and 6 for a revelation on who would be the builder of the 2nd temple. Who laid the foundation of this House and who would bring forth the Head Stone with shoutings of Grace Grace? Why was the glory of the latter house greater than the former house. Who would cleanse the Second House before he offered himself up as the Passover Lamb to forever complete the work of redeemption for mankind. Why did the Sons of Zadok (Levites) officiate as both Priest and King in the Second Temple? See Ezekial 44:15. Who was the 24th High Priest from Aaron who would sit in Rule in this Temple and be called the Branch? See. Zech. 3&6. What was this High Priest Fathers Name? When Messiah returns to this earth what will be the Name he will be Called? What will be the Name of the Bride (hint, it will be the same name as her bridegroom)
None of this can be understood without understanding the Second Temple and it's spiritual importance. Why invent a 3rd milinneal temple?
The Book of Revelations explains for clearly The New Jerusalem. It will descend to this earth from above.
Ezekiels Temple is is an almagamation of both a physical house and spirtual house whose maker is YHWH Elohim.
To believe that the Temple in Ezekiel has yet to be built discredits the work of Messiah. The New Jerusalem is a city of living stones coming out of Heaven as Bride adorned for Her Bridegroom. The sacrificial system of sin offereings has been forever abolished by the work of Our Kohen Gadol Yehoshua Ha Mashiach. Interesting that the Yehoshua Ben Yehozadek was the one who built this House but Zerubabel decendant from the lineage of King David would bring for the Cheif corner stone with shouting of Grace Grace. And upon this stone the capstone would be the seven eyes of YHWH. And Yehowah will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
 Quoting: Tirzah



good questions

I will get back to you on this soon
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"Temple Institute Denies Supriem Rockefeller Links"

THAT IS THE TRUTH

So who controls the Temple Institute? Scripture teaches that the AntiMessiah will build the earthly Third Temple and demand worship.
The True Jerusalem comes down from heaven as a bride adorned for her husband.



Daniel 9:27 says differently

Dear AC,
Can you explain the signifigance of the Second Temple?
Why would YHWH give Ezekiel the blueprint for the 3rd temple before the 2nd temple had been built.
I've been a believer for many years and yet in all of these years I have yet to hear anyone teach about the prophetic signifigance of the Second Temple. If the first temple was a dwelling place for the Name of Yehowah then the Second Temple was signifigant in that it was the dwelling place for the name of the Son. Read Zechariah 3 and 6 for a revelation on who would be the builder of the 2nd temple. Who laid the foundation of this House and who would bring forth the Head Stone with shoutings of Grace Grace? Why was the glory of the latter house greater than the former house. Who would cleanse the Second House before he offered himself up as the Passover Lamb to forever complete the work of redeemption for mankind. Why did the Sons of Zadok (Levites) officiate as both Priest and King in the Second Temple? See Ezekial 44:15. Who was the 24th High Priest from Aaron who would sit in Rule in this Temple and be called the Branch? See. Zech. 3&6. What was this High Priest Fathers Name? When Messiah returns to this earth what will be the Name he will be Called? What will be the Name of the Bride (hint, it will be the same name as her bridegroom)
None of this can be understood without understanding the Second Temple and it's spiritual importance. Why invent a 3rd milinneal temple?
The Book of Revelations explains for clearly The New Jerusalem. It will descend to this earth from above.
Ezekiels Temple is is an almagamation of both a physical house and spirtual house whose maker is YHWH Elohim.
To believe that the Temple in Ezekiel has yet to be built discredits the work of Messiah. The New Jerusalem is a city of living stones coming out of Heaven as Bride adorned for Her Bridegroom. The sacrificial system of sin offereings has been forever abolished by the work of Our Kohen Gadol Yehoshua Ha Mashiach. Interesting that the Yehoshua Ben Yehozadek was the one who built this House but Zerubabel decendant from the lineage of King David would bring for the Cheif corner stone with shouting of Grace Grace. And upon this stone the capstone would be the seven eyes of YHWH. And Yehowah will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.



good questions


I will get back to you on this soon
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Here is your answer


You said

“To believe that the Temple in Ezekiel has yet to be built discredits the work of Messiah.”

To start with Jesus is not the Messiah , some say he attempted this
What ever the case is he did not do what the Messiah will do. The world is not been redeemed, the work of the Messiah will bring ultimate sanctification to God’s name in the world. This certainly has not happened. As it is written in Isiah :

1. And there shall come forth a rod from the stem of Jesse, and a branch shall grow from his roots;
2. And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
3. And his delight shall be in the fear of the Lord; and he shall not judge by what his eyes see, nor decide by what his ears hear.
4. But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the humble of the earth; and he shall strike the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
5. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
6. The wolf also shall live with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den.
9. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.


THESE THINGS CERTAINLY HAVE NOT OCCURRED

The Jesus Idea, trinity and especially the “2nd” coming are all Roman inventions

The most foundational teaching God Gave to Moses and Abraham before him is

GOD IS ONE , only one not 3 in one not …………………
GOD IS ONE

“Hear, O Israel; The Lord is God The Lord is one”

Another major Distinction God taught Abraham , which in his time was unheard and reinforce again at mount Sinai is

“15. Take therefore good heed to yourselves; for you saw no manner of form on the day when the Lord spoke to you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire;”

(Deut 4)

God is Bigger than all physicality and has no physical representation. As such is the foundation of all idolatry.

The cross and genuflexion to it, is just this

Now concerning your question of the “the prophetic signifigance of the Second Temple.”

Although the Temple had been destroyed and Jerusalem burned to the ground, the Jews and Judaism survived the encounter with Rome. The supreme legislative and judicial body, the Sanhedrin (successor of the Knesset Hagedolah) was reconvened in Yavneh (70 CE), and later in Tiberias.
Without the unifying framework of a state and the Temple, the small remaining Jewish community gradually recovered, reinforced from time to time by returning exiles. Institutional and communal life was renewed, priests were replaced by rabbis and the synagogue became the focus of the Jewish communities, as evidenced by remnants of synagogues found at Capernaum, Korazin, Bar’am, Gamla, and elsewhere. Halakhah (Jewish religious law) served as the common bond among the Jews and was passed on from generation to generation until this day and there has been nothing like this in the whole earth.


The Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Girgashites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites and their cultures have disappeared not the Hebrews, the Jewish people.

To believe that the Temple in Ezekiel has yet to be built discredits the work of Messiah.
And the so called New testament.
As they directly contradict the words of God in the Bible many times in many things from the Sabbath changed to Sunday, to permission to eat forbidden food as pork and negation of the Biblical holidays. Almost all the Holy things God gave to mankind as a gift the so called new testament negates, including knowledge of the 3rd Temple, which fills the images of the prophets who speak of a Temple in the “end of days, which will be rebuilt at the Time of the Redemption.
These verses make it clear beyond any doubt that the Temple described in Ezekiel has yet to be built, it was not the 2nd Temple:
1. And he brought me back to the door of the house; and, behold, waters flowed from under the threshold of the house eastward; for the front of the house faced to the east, and water run out from beneath the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
2. And he brought me out by the way of the gate northward, and led me around the way outside to the outer gate by the way that faces to the east; and, behold, there ran out water on the right side.
3. And when the man who had the line in his hand went out eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the water; the water reached the ankles.
4. And he measured a thousand, and brought me through the water; the water reached the knees. And he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the water reached the loins.
5. And he measured a further thousand; and it was a stream that I could not pass over; for the water had risen, water to swim in, a stream that could not be passed over.
6. And he said to me, Son of man, have you seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the edge of the stream.
7. And when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the stream were many trees on one side and on the other.
8. And he said to me, These waters flow out towards the eastern region, and go down to the Arabah, to the sea; and when they enter the sea, the waters shall be healed.
9. And it shall come to pass, that every thing that lives, which moves, wherever the streams shall come, shall live; and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come there; for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live where the stream comes.
10. (K) And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Ein-Gedi as far as Ein-Eglayim; they shall be a place for spreading nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, a great many like the fish of the Great Sea.
11. But its swamps and its marshes shall not be healed; they shall be left for salt.
12. And by the stream, upon its bank, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for food, whose leaf shall not wither, nor shall its fruit fail; it shall bring forth fresh fruit every month, because the waters for them flow from the sanctuary; and their fruit shall be for food, and their leaves for healing.
(Ezekiel Chapter 47)

Also

“35. It shall be eighteen thousand measures around; and the name of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there.”

Ezekiel Chapter 48

This obviously is yet to pass


May we see these things quickly in our days

Read the Prophesies at the link here if you have doubt or questions or interest concerning these things :

[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]
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I know these people they are in the old city Jerusalem

they have nothing to do with

Supriem Rockefeller

it you have any doubts of this they are online

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The Temple Institute

its a cool site

ask them yourself !
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Here is your answer

You said

“To believe that the Temple in Ezekiel has yet to be built discredits the work of Messiah.”

To start with Jesus is not the Messiah , some say he attempted this
What ever the case is he did not do what the Messiah will do. The world is not been redeemed, the work of the Messiah will bring ultimate sanctification to God’s name in the world. This certainly has not happened. As it is written in Isiah :

1. And there shall come forth a rod from the stem of Jesse, and a branch shall grow from his roots;
2. And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
3. And his delight shall be in the fear of the Lord; and he shall not judge by what his eyes see, nor decide by what his ears hear.
4. But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the humble of the earth; and he shall strike the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
5. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
6. The wolf also shall live with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den.
9. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.


THESE THINGS CERTAINLY HAVE NOT OCCURRED

The Jesus Idea, trinity and especially the “2nd” coming are all Roman inventions

The most foundational teaching God Gave to Moses and Abraham before him is

GOD IS ONE , only one not 3 in one not …………………
GOD IS ONE

“Hear, O Israel; The Lord is God The Lord is one”

Another major Distinction God taught Abraham , which in his time was unheard and reinforce again at mount Sinai is

“15. Take therefore good heed to yourselves; for you saw no manner of form on the day when the Lord spoke to you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire;”

(Deut 4)

God is Bigger than all physicality and has no physical representation. As such is the foundation of all idolatry.

The cross and genuflexion to it, is just this

Now concerning your question of the “the prophetic signifigance of the Second Temple.”

Although the Temple had been destroyed and Jerusalem burned to the ground, the Jews and Judaism survived the encounter with Rome. The supreme legislative and judicial body, the Sanhedrin (successor of the Knesset Hagedolah) was reconvened in Yavneh (70 CE), and later in Tiberias.
Without the unifying framework of a state and the Temple, the small remaining Jewish community gradually recovered, reinforced from time to time by returning exiles. Institutional and communal life was renewed, priests were replaced by rabbis and the synagogue became the focus of the Jewish communities, as evidenced by remnants of synagogues found at Capernaum, Korazin, Bar’am, Gamla, and elsewhere. Halakhah (Jewish religious law) served as the common bond among the Jews and was passed on from generation to generation until this day and there has been nothing like this in the whole earth.


The Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Girgashites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites and their cultures have disappeared not the Hebrews, the Jewish people.

To believe that the Temple in Ezekiel has yet to be built discredits the work of Messiah.
And the so called New testament.
As they directly contradict the words of God in the Bible many times in many things from the Sabbath changed to Sunday, to permission to eat forbidden food as pork and negation of the Biblical holidays. Almost all the Holy things God gave to mankind as a gift the so called new testament negates, including knowledge of the 3rd Temple, which fills the images of the prophets who speak of a Temple in the “end of days, which will be rebuilt at the Time of the Redemption.
These verses make it clear beyond any doubt that the Temple described in Ezekiel has yet to be built, it was not the 2nd Temple:
1. And he brought me back to the door of the house; and, behold, waters flowed from under the threshold of the house eastward; for the front of the house faced to the east, and water run out from beneath the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
2. And he brought me out by the way of the gate northward, and led me around the way outside to the outer gate by the way that faces to the east; and, behold, there ran out water on the right side.
3. And when the man who had the line in his hand went out eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the water; the water reached the ankles.
4. And he measured a thousand, and brought me through the water; the water reached the knees. And he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the water reached the loins.
5. And he measured a further thousand; and it was a stream that I could not pass over; for the water had risen, water to swim in, a stream that could not be passed over.
6. And he said to me, Son of man, have you seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the edge of the stream.
7. And when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the stream were many trees on one side and on the other.
8. And he said to me, These waters flow out towards the eastern region, and go down to the Arabah, to the sea; and when they enter the sea, the waters shall be healed.
9. And it shall come to pass, that every thing that lives, which moves, wherever the streams shall come, shall live; and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come there; for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live where the stream comes.
10. (K) And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Ein-Gedi as far as Ein-Eglayim; they shall be a place for spreading nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, a great many like the fish of the Great Sea.
11. But its swamps and its marshes shall not be healed; they shall be left for salt.
12. And by the stream, upon its bank, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for food, whose leaf shall not wither, nor shall its fruit fail; it shall bring forth fresh fruit every month, because the waters for them flow from the sanctuary; and their fruit shall be for food, and their leaves for healing.
(Ezekiel Chapter 47)

Also

“35. It shall be eighteen thousand measures around; and the name of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there.”

Ezekiel Chapter 48

This obviously is yet to pass


May we see these things quickly in our days

Read the Prophesies at the link here if you have doubt or questions or interest concerning these things :

[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]
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Dear AC,
Thank you for taking the time to explain your beliefs.
You make some valid points that need to be reasoned.
Ezekiel is not a book that I've studied in depth. I will pray about this temple in Ezekiel and ask for wisdom and understanding. I don't believe that the Third Temple will be built by defiled human hands.
King David was not permitted to build the First Temple because his hands were defiled with much bloodshed. Hiram King of Tyre aided Solomon and sent Masons to build this House. The focal point of the Freemasons secret order is connected to this Temple that King Solomon built.
The goal of the Freemasons worldwide is to rebuild this Temple after the pattern of King Solomons in which the Man of Sin will sit upon the throne and declare himself to be Elohim.

It's important to understand the Tabernacle and the Temple because this was the dwelling place of YHWH's presence. It is the Secret Place of the Most High.

Psalm 27:5 For in the day of trouble He will hide me in His tabernacle; In the secret place of His tent He will hide me;

Those of us that believe that Yehoshua is the True Messiah of Israel have taken him to be their High Priest and redeemer and we are hidden in Him.
There is a beautiful picture in Torah of this. When Moses ask YHWH to see his Face YHWH would not permit him to look upon His Glory He only revealed to Moses His back. Moses being of flesh and blood would have perished had he looked upon the countenance of the Most High. It is symbolic of you and I gazing into the Sun. Would we not go blind? The only way we can see YHWH Elohim the Father is through His Son who is the express image of YHWH's face.
His Son Yehoshua was hidden in the midst of the tabernacle when Israel sojourned in the wilderness. So you and I cannot understand the meaning of the Mishkan except we see that the Mishkan represented secret of gaining access of the Most High through Yehoshua the High Priest of our Salvation.
Exodus 33:11-14
And YHWH spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.
12. And Moses said unto YHWH, See, thou sayest unto me, Bring up this people: and thou has not let me know whom thou wilt send with me. Yet thou hast said, I know thee by name, and thou hast also found grace in my sight.
13. Now therefore, I pray thee, if I have found grace in thy sight, shew me now thy way, that I may know thee, that I may find grace in thy sigh and consider that this nation is thy people.
14. And he said, My presence (Face) whall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

Who took the children of the Fathers into the Promised Land?
Yehoshua Ben Nun the servant of Moses and the Face of YHWH.

Babylon (The Roman Catholic Christian Church) has corrupted the Testimony of Yehoshua with Leaven.

"The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree:" Psalms 92:12
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Here is your answer

You said

“To believe that the Temple in Ezekiel has yet to be built discredits the work of Messiah.”

To start with Jesus is not the Messiah , some say he attempted this
What ever the case is he did not do what the Messiah will do. The world is not been redeemed, the work of the Messiah will bring ultimate sanctification to God’s name in the world. This certainly has not happened. As it is written in Isiah :

1. And there shall come forth a rod from the stem of Jesse, and a branch shall grow from his roots;
2. And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
3. And his delight shall be in the fear of the Lord; and he shall not judge by what his eyes see, nor decide by what his ears hear.
4. But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and decide with equity for the humble of the earth; and he shall strike the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
5. And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
6. The wolf also shall live with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7. And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper’s den.
9. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.


THESE THINGS CERTAINLY HAVE NOT OCCURRED

The Jesus Idea, trinity and especially the “2nd” coming are all Roman inventions

The most foundational teaching God Gave to Moses and Abraham before him is

GOD IS ONE , only one not 3 in one not …………………
GOD IS ONE

“Hear, O Israel; The Lord is God The Lord is one”

Another major Distinction God taught Abraham , which in his time was unheard and reinforce again at mount Sinai is

“15. Take therefore good heed to yourselves; for you saw no manner of form on the day when the Lord spoke to you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire;”

(Deut 4)

God is Bigger than all physicality and has no physical representation. As such is the foundation of all idolatry.

The cross and genuflexion to it, is just this

Now concerning your question of the “the prophetic signifigance of the Second Temple.”

Although the Temple had been destroyed and Jerusalem burned to the ground, the Jews and Judaism survived the encounter with Rome. The supreme legislative and judicial body, the Sanhedrin (successor of the Knesset Hagedolah) was reconvened in Yavneh (70 CE), and later in Tiberias.
Without the unifying framework of a state and the Temple, the small remaining Jewish community gradually recovered, reinforced from time to time by returning exiles. Institutional and communal life was renewed, priests were replaced by rabbis and the synagogue became the focus of the Jewish communities, as evidenced by remnants of synagogues found at Capernaum, Korazin, Bar’am, Gamla, and elsewhere. Halakhah (Jewish religious law) served as the common bond among the Jews and was passed on from generation to generation until this day and there has been nothing like this in the whole earth.


The Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Girgashites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites and their cultures have disappeared not the Hebrews, the Jewish people.

To believe that the Temple in Ezekiel has yet to be built discredits the work of Messiah.
And the so called New testament.
As they directly contradict the words of God in the Bible many times in many things from the Sabbath changed to Sunday, to permission to eat forbidden food as pork and negation of the Biblical holidays. Almost all the Holy things God gave to mankind as a gift the so called new testament negates, including knowledge of the 3rd Temple, which fills the images of the prophets who speak of a Temple in the “end of days, which will be rebuilt at the Time of the Redemption.
These verses make it clear beyond any doubt that the Temple described in Ezekiel has yet to be built, it was not the 2nd Temple:
1. And he brought me back to the door of the house; and, behold, waters flowed from under the threshold of the house eastward; for the front of the house faced to the east, and water run out from beneath the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
2. And he brought me out by the way of the gate northward, and led me around the way outside to the outer gate by the way that faces to the east; and, behold, there ran out water on the right side.
3. And when the man who had the line in his hand went out eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the water; the water reached the ankles.
4. And he measured a thousand, and brought me through the water; the water reached the knees. And he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the water reached the loins.
5. And he measured a further thousand; and it was a stream that I could not pass over; for the water had risen, water to swim in, a stream that could not be passed over.
6. And he said to me, Son of man, have you seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the edge of the stream.
7. And when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the stream were many trees on one side and on the other.
8. And he said to me, These waters flow out towards the eastern region, and go down to the Arabah, to the sea; and when they enter the sea, the waters shall be healed.
9. And it shall come to pass, that every thing that lives, which moves, wherever the streams shall come, shall live; and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come there; for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live where the stream comes.
10. (K) And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Ein-Gedi as far as Ein-Eglayim; they shall be a place for spreading nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, a great many like the fish of the Great Sea.
11. But its swamps and its marshes shall not be healed; they shall be left for salt.
12. And by the stream, upon its bank, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for food, whose leaf shall not wither, nor shall its fruit fail; it shall bring forth fresh fruit every month, because the waters for them flow from the sanctuary; and their fruit shall be for food, and their leaves for healing.
(Ezekiel Chapter 47)

Also

“35. It shall be eighteen thousand measures around; and the name of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there.”

Ezekiel Chapter 48

This obviously is yet to pass


May we see these things quickly in our days

Read the Prophesies at the link here if you have doubt or questions or interest concerning these things :

[link to godssecret.wordpress.com]



Dear AC,
Thank you for taking the time to explain your beliefs.

These are not beliefs I have share
"emuna" (faith-belief) is a power and its much higher than this

I have only stated the "facts" of the Biblical text



you are very welcome, nothing better than spreading the Light-Truth

You make some valid points that need to be reasoned.
Ezekiel is not a book that I've studied in depth. I will pray about this temple in Ezekiel and ask for wisdom and understanding. I don't believe that the Third Temple will be built by defiled human hands.
King David was not permitted to build the First Temple because his hands were defiled with much bloodshed. Hiram King of Tyre aided Solomon and sent Masons to build this House.

Solomon was the wisest man who ever lived he needed no help except supplies and labor from Hiram to build The House. All of God's secrets involved in the work where of Wisdom God revealed to King Solomon. Hiram learned much from King Solomon and later developed the Freemasons secret order. He did build Temples before , He was a builder.

The God could have refined King David to Do it, but it was King Solomon's work. David wrote Psalms.



The focal point of the Freemasons secret order is connected to this Temple that King Solomon built.
The goal of the Freemasons worldwide is to rebuild this Temple after the pattern of King Solomons in which the Man of Sin will sit upon the throne and declare himself to be Elohim.


this cannot happen in the Third temple in Jerusalem, I will only be Holy and last forever , as its written in

"21. And say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the people of Israel from among the nations, where they have gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land;
22. (K) And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all; and they shall be no more two nations, nor shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all;
23. Nor shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I will save them in all their dwelling places, where they have sinned, and will cleanse them; so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
24. And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd; they shall also follow my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob my servant, where your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell in it, they and their children, and their grandchildren for ever; and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
26. And I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them; and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
27. My tabernacle also shall be with them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
28. And the nations shall know that I, the Lord, sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore."
(Ezek 37)

" And of this measure shall you measure a length of twenty five thousand, and a width of ten thousand; and in it shall be the sanctuary and the most holy place."
(Ezek 45)


That so called new testament book is a "roman invention" it contradicts the words of God's Biblical prophets , all over the place

I have done much work you can see the truth from the verses
here

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Paul said all is clean, you can eat pig
God said pig is unclean
who are you going to believe Paul or God
You will see the Biblical properties are the same matter

It's important to understand the Tabernacle and the Temple because this was the dwelling place of YHWH's presence. It is the Secret Place of the Most High.

Psalm 27:5 For in the day of trouble He will hide me in His tabernacle; In the secret place of His tent He will hide me;

Those of us that believe that Yehoshua is the True Messiah of Israel have taken him to be their High Priest and redeemer and we are hidden in Him.
There is a beautiful picture in Torah of this. When Moses ask YHWH to see his Face YHWH would not permit him to look upon His Glory He only revealed to Moses His back. Moses being of flesh and blood would have perished had he looked upon the countenance of the Most High. It is symbolic of you and I gazing into the Sun. Would we not go blind? The only way we can see YHWH Elohim the Father is through His Son who is the express image of YHWH's face.

this is dogma, direct is better as Yhvh said himself

"You shall have no God before me" , first of the 10 commandments



"my servant Moses, is the trusted one in all my house."
(deut 12)





GLP