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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37404505  Brazil04/04/2013 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The translation of the word bronze in Bibles appeared just in 18 Century and due to COPPER because bronze is an alloy made of COPPER and tin. Moses must've seen that symbol of a SINGLE SNAKE around a staff many times in Egyptian temples when he learned their "wisdom" according to the New Testament. For example when Isis' helpers carried the same device to beget Horus. It represents the very moment when chromosomes of parents have to split to beget the child........, so it is not a Caduceus twin snake .... Now, a similar copper snake from those days was shown at Tel Aviv museum and copper 62 is used in antimatter positron devices. COPPER IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN OUR BODIES and this whole idea of BLUE ROYAL BLOOD which goes back from those ancient times may be related with copper intake due to specific diet or practices or perhaps the use of copper as a device.... I ignore if there's any research about copper related with incestual intercourse or Rhesus blood factor and what I am writing here....anybody does know anything? |
| Amazed Continually! User ID: 1190661  Australia04/04/2013 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are stating that for a second time then you have been wrong twice... Keep up the good work! The BIBLE is a very flawed document and to use it to prove science is the most non-sensical thing I have ever read. Broaden your studies...PLEASE!  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13718874  Netherlands04/04/2013 05:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is yadu dynasty - moon dynasty in hindu scriptures and krsna came from them the iliadas of homer is known al-so for sacrifice [link to www.perseus.tufts.edu] yada - jada-- jad sl misery il -yada - mighty misery? mmmmmmmmis-errry |
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Mister1k  User ID: 37350569  Canada04/04/2013 05:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't buy that DNA bullshit!! When someone can explain why some of us have the Rhesus Monkey Gene and others do not, I'll think about it, until then it has no application. Why do we have to give women antibodies(Rhogram) at birth so as not to abort the Fetus? That is unnatural. Creation Story? Fuck off! Fail to Plan! Plan to Fail! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35113236 United States04/04/2013 05:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | mankind: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 883435 Biological material decays too fast Measurements of the mutation rate of mitochondrial DNA recently forced researchers to revise the age of “mitochondrial Eve” from a theorized 200,000 years down to possibly as low as 6,000 years. DNA experts insist that DNA cannot exist in natural environments longer than 10,000 years, yet intact strands of DNA appear to have been recovered from fossils allegedly much older. “For example, researchers have calculated that "mitochondrial Eve" the woman whose mtDNA was ancestral to that in all living people lived 100,000 to 200,000 years ago in Africa. Using the new clock, she would be a mere 6000 years old.” (Gibbons, Ann, “Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock”, Science, Vol 279, No. 5347, Jan 1998, pp. 28 & 29) [link to www.icr.org] [link to creation.com] Claim: The Sumer tablets are the oldest text. Reply: Understand how textual dating is done: the physical dating of the text does not date the original text, which is dated by events and confirmed with the sciences. "The oldest known tablets written in stone," means little, as original biblical texts were copied to parchment repeatedly and the originals destroyed as they were used to the point of being worn out and useless. But by this time there were thousands of copies so originals were unimportant. Older scripture has no validity over the majority text in agreement: Majority coming from different parts of the world, all in agreement. This is what is found with the Textus Receptus Greek New Testament and Hebrew Masoretic Old Testament, King James Version manuscripts. Oldest known does not mean more credible or reliable in textual criticism, just means the originals were destroyed, lost or possibly being kept from us. But that's not all, in the text are events and figures. The pagan Sumer tablets do not tell of real events, while the books of the Bible are confirmed repeatedly with HISTORY and SCIENCE. Really? Please provide links for archaeological evidence of Noah, Abraham, Moses, King Solomon, Adam or Eve, Mary or Joseph. We have uncovered nearly ever Pharaoh of Egypt and long dead rulers from every epoch in time....but have yet to discover the tombs of any biblical character. So, I'd really like evidence of the bible being confirmed by Science.....you funny. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13718874 Netherlands04/04/2013 05:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is already hard and almost impossible just to put together some of the collected pieces of an uncient written on pergament or so -book not to say about the light encodings brocken into million billion lightyear apart to collect even and from those the codes into other matter came - so flows are everywhere - there should be a logic for a time-in-the-now not for all the time to look for better life answers-solution not reconstructions of someones misinterpreted own dreams |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37404505 Brazil04/04/2013 05:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what it means? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13718874 what is Hebrew ..a gene? or a translation of it,,....or? a tool for something else? I ignore if you are retarded or writing a tongue-in-cheek "joke". Hebrew is a language of course. Now, if you wanna be explicit talking about Aramaic from Babylon or the oral differences of Hebrew, of course that is another topic that can be extended for many pages. A common reader understand the Hebrew reference of mine was about Genesis account in that language. An idiot like you wouldn't . Aussie fellow needs to read about science as well and write something about his knowledge of science rather than encouraging others to do that to give the impression he really knows for sure. What is relevant here is not just the Bible but other traditions as well. These sort of idiotic people who call Bibletards to others never really read the whole Bible nor science and science. Do remember while Western "civilized" world took millenia to learn a simple thing like washing hands with water, Jews and Egyptians did circumcision . Jews at the 8th day where exactly the level of protrombine and vitamin K which are esential to coagulate blood and avoid bleeding are in highest level. They buried their excrements while white Caucasian people never ever cleaned their assholes until British or Dutch pirates went to Japan and learned to take baths and in China paper was used. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35113236 United States04/04/2013 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We know a great deal about the earliest known (Sumerian) civilization partly because they were able to both read and write and left surviving written (pictographic) records of their culture in stone or clay. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 862437 The rest of the world around them did not know how to read or write, or if they did, they left no surviving artifacts or records of those abilities. So when the Sumerians finally got around to writing down a creation story, who is to say they were the originators of that story? Just because they were one of the earliest civilizations and were able to read and write? Whose to say the Sumerians didn't in fact receive the creation story second hand or at several removes through oral transmission of accounts given by peoples who couldn't read or write, complete with distortions and exaggerations? The Sumerians are NOT the oldest. As a matter of fact you would do well to research who attacked Nineveh. the Scythian's are older than Sumer.....you need to do more research. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37404505 Brazil04/04/2013 05:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not just hiding the mother side of the lineage but other things. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37404505 In Arabian traditions the creation included BLOOD while in Genesis Adam says Eve was taken from his bones and flesh. Other cultures have quoted this blood element. This is extremely interesting because whenever someone has a cancer like leukemia it's often required marrow transplant. Because the marrow of a RELATIVE is so akin that could help AVOID REJECTION. Ribs and bones CREATE BLOOD and red cells have no nucleus if my memory doesn't betray me. Ribs are very important and linked with the spine. It seems even having regenerative properties. I've read in certain surgeries when they remove the ribs and leave intact a tissue around the rib (periostium) part of the rib can grow again like lizard's tail. There must be some truth in this because ribs are not common bones. But anyway I care about the blood created by the marrow within the bones. When Adam is formed he starts to BREATH and is said he becomes a living soul. The word for soul in Hebrew is the same word for BLOOD or "nephesh". It's obvious we breath due to our lungs but we must not forget the exchange for carbon dioxide into oxygen is done because of BLOOD. The blood with O2 is what allows us to breath. It's because the contact with oxygen that our blood turns into red and ADAM is a name related with that color RED in reference to the very ground he was made of. We can speculate if there was blood from the creators who spoke in plural about making man into THEIR LIKENESS and resemblance and mixed with Neanderthal , Rhesus monkeys or whatever other apes. The mingling of blood and the use of SPECIFIC BLOOD from incestual bone/rib to DODGE SOME ALIEN REJECTION. Poster from Canada, re-read this in case you didn't understand or just jumped at the last minute without reading. Get back to previous page. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35113236 United States04/04/2013 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Babylon and the Bible Quoting: Anonymous Coward 883435 Two hundred years ago, scholars doubted whether Babylon ever existed, and the only record could be found in the Bible. Higher critics used the story of Babylon, and what they called its "non-historic kings", to dismiss Scripture. However in 1898, Babylon was suddenly discovered and excavations started. We know today that it was one of the first cities in the (post-flood) world. Nimrod was the great-grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:10,11). Archaeologists have found his name on many inscriptions and tablets, while a massive head of Nimrod has been excavated near Calah on the Tigris River. Nimrod was a very significant man in ancient times, the grandson of Ham and great-grandson of Noah. Nimrod started his kingdom at Babylon (Gen. 10:10). Babylon later reached its zenith under Nebuchadnezzar (sixth century BC). [link to amazingdiscoveries.org] [link to www.bible-history.com] [link to www.formerthings.com] Please provide archaeological evidence for Ham and Noah, Thank you. By the way, the Bible was the only source in the Western World. The rest of the world was not so fucking ignorant. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37415962 United States04/04/2013 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the vedic texts are older. the sumerian heiroglyphs are 'flame letters.' they represent different parts of the tree of life or dna as it spins around its axis. the syntax is so advanced that it is the basis for artificial intelligence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 832169 humans were designed by aeons, those who came from source. their intention was for a universal body that developed out from a garden of beauty and harmony and beauty. the body was instinctual and beautiful. there was no pain nor sorrow in the earliest times. they were immortal and androgynous. there was no death, disease or need for food. the climate was perfect. at a certain point, another creator race took dna from that race of humans and produced clones, or 'golem', i believe the bible calls them, which have no soul = a blank slate, in order to have a slave race. the 'god' enki slipped angelic - which is source - dna into the clones. this allowed humans to procreate and multiply, which they did at an alarming rate. they were no longer compliant. they could tell 'good' from 'evil' and they became 'rebellious.' the uncloned humans, the adam kardmons, rescued the adam2 race. by that time, the 'gods' had created many temple compounds, landing pads and monolithic structures. they knew a flood was coming, so they decided to just leave and call it a good time gone awry. but creator had other ideas. the gods 'fell' or were quarantined along with humans, who survived through noah and other remnants scattered throughout the globe. after the flood all, adam kardmons, adam2 and the gods lost their immortality and began the cycle of reincarnation. the cataclysms and flooding occured about 26k yrs ago. after that, there was an ice age that only started receding about 12-13k yrs. ago. the popuation of 'men of renown' had dwindled down to a few, who went underground. some humans went underground, too. the pre-flood days had a great variety of humanoids and other 'creatures,' like gnomes and fairies, etc. after the now mortal 'gods' and both adamic races interbred, there was a select group of those with more of the 'god' gene who kept the secret of science, the dark magicians, to themselves, who decided once again, to mess with the dna of man. they added reptilian dna to the mix, which caused man to have a nervous system and brain stem that could be controlled by frequencies and psychological torture. many have tried to warn. they have tried to show what this means. the flail, in egypt, that the pharoh holds is a clue. the 'snake' an the kundalini. yoga was developed for the express purpose of breaking the grip the matrix has on us from our nervous system. sometimes i wonder if the brain was a byproduct - after all, it is split, not whole, and it is just full of grey matter. the egyptians had no traces of brain in their mummies. trepination was an obsession with certain mystics... there are cases of people who lived fully functional lives, who upon autopsy after death, it was discovered had encephalitis - water instead of brain. one was a cambridge mathematician. yoga is literally translated as 'yoke.' the bible is the book of the sect of beings who still consider themselves as gods. all writings are the creation of the bloodline of the usurper gods. if you follow the bible, which does contain many, many profound and dense truths, to the letter, you are a slave. no better than the cloned adam2. worse, you've denied your higher faculties in order to be 'obedient.' it was, after all, more comfortable. no nervous tics and pain from the system, which is an internal punishing program. they all began introducing writings about 7 - 6k years ago. the 'good' ones taught humans how to write in different places, which is why the sumerian and vedic texts tell the same stories, except from the human vantage point - which i find the most interesting of the accounts. the 'bad' ones also used flame letters and created their own book, which was all about enslaving you. it's called hebrew and the book is the bible. I resonate with this story the best. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37404505 Brazil04/04/2013 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A degree of skepticism is GOOD but to the point people don't turn themselves into cynicism area. When people want to say there are civilizations older than Sumerians or Sumerians being the older ones,or others prefer to say Indian and Chinese culture and so on....obviously people are CHOOSING WHAT TO ACCEPT until they CHANGE THEIR VIEWS 360 degrees when they get additional data rejecting that original point of view. And in forums lke these we find a bunch of people who are internet followers of superficial and conflictive views , people WHO NEVER READ A DAMN BOOK in their natural lives and believe that because they read SItchin's Genesis Revisited or Carl Sagan's book about Dragons in Eden they surely "know". You gotta do a lot more than that and when you have read literally tons of book you will be more humble acknowledging we do not know the truth but have pieces of information. The cocky ones who think they know about "science" and history are the ones who usually know just a bit or nothing. There's no way to measure time in history with security. You ask about evidence of patriarchs which is so idiotic to even think about! Not even preserved mummies at Cairo museum which I have visited do have proper identification and you think we should find real bodies about people living before them who were not mummified??? What an idiot! HIstory in case you ignore is not just the physical evidence of the person but what is written in texts and monuments. Characters who appear in the Bible also showed up in foreign documents like Moab stele or Ebla , etc. Names of people and places which just appeared in the Bible were critized for decades before they were actually found out later on. The very fact you ignore that makes evident you know shit not only about the BIble and thousands of scrolls copied many times but you ignore about history of archeology! And in saying so I AM NOT SAYING there are no errors or mistakes because even one of the few scholars in Hebrew and Sumerian, Ph D Michael Heiser (sorry, not Sitchin!) he openly speaks and writes about those errors. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37404505 Brazil04/04/2013 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even daring to write or speak about history... gotta be joking! What historians? Herodotus, Flavius Josephus? These CYNICAL people never questioned the very existence of such historians and their writings. They take for granted they existed and must've been writing the truth. Is that sort of cynicism that makes people nowadays reject even the testimony of people LIVING RIGHT NOW who have physical and mental scars because of their suffering in nazi holocaust. They prefer to admit it was fake photographic evidence or films, hypocrites filtering the fly and swallowing the camel. Even in a trial it's important the evidence of what was perceived by two or more witness who provide testimony. You can't recreate history. You need patience even to begin the diggings which are forbidden in Egypt specially the places where there's something related with Joseph or Moses. The one who asks about evidence of Adam and Abraham is one of the most imbecil and naïve posters I have ever seen and a cynical who accepts history and historians of his liking without the same criteria he asks others to do! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13718874 Netherlands04/04/2013 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what it means? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13718874 what is Hebrew ..a gene? or a translation of it,,....or? a tool for something else? I ignore if you are retarded or writing a tongue-in-cheek "joke". Hebrew is a language of course. Now, if you wanna be explicit talking about Aramaic from Babylon or the oral differences of Hebrew, of course that is another topic that can be extended for many pages. A common reader understand the Hebrew reference of mine was about Genesis account in that language. An idiot like you wouldn't . Aussie fellow needs to read about science as well and write something about his knowledge of science rather than encouraging others to do that to give the impression he really knows for sure. What is relevant here is not just the Bible but other traditions as well. These sort of idiotic people who call Bibletards to others never really read the whole Bible nor science and science. Do remember while Western "civilized" world took millenia to learn a simple thing like washing hands with water, Jews and Egyptians did circumcision . Jews at the 8th day where exactly the level of protrombine and vitamin K which are esential to coagulate blood and avoid bleeding are in highest level. They buried their excrements while white Caucasian people never ever cleaned their assholes until British or Dutch pirates went to Japan and learned to take baths and in China paper was used. so I suppose there are know-legible ones who invented a means for a time/space loops as well in history or generations (whats the Hebrew fer that one again) past if ye may say past? |
| Rising Son User ID: 35530451 United States04/04/2013 05:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't buy that DNA bullshit!! Quoting: Mister1k When someone can explain why some of us have the Rhesus Monkey Gene and others do not, I'll think about it, until then it has no application. Why do we have to give women antibodies(Rhogram) at birth so as not to abort the Fetus? That is unnatural. Creation Story? Fuck off! Here is an article explaining the differences. I find it interesting how you are so willing to accept the story of evolution, yet so hesitant to accept a different opinion. "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13718874 Netherlands04/04/2013 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | helaas not greek [link to mymemory.translated.net] hellaas [link to mymemory.translated.net] :simmillles: |
| shadasonic User ID: 34416224 United States04/04/2013 05:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the book of enoch, it places some puzzle pieces. “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34673561  Sweden04/04/2013 06:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the vedic texts are older. the sumerian heiroglyphs are 'flame letters.' they represent different parts of the tree of life or dna as it spins around its axis. the syntax is so advanced that it is the basis for artificial intelligence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 832169humans were designed by aeons, those who came from source. their intention was for a universal body that developed out from a garden of beauty and harmony and beauty. the body was instinctual and beautiful. there was no pain nor sorrow in the earliest times. they were immortal and androgynous. there was no death, disease or need for food. the climate was perfect. at a certain point, another creator race took dna from that race of humans and produced clones, or 'golem', i believe the bible calls them, which have no soul = a blank slate, in order to have a slave race. the 'god' enki slipped angelic - which is source - dna into the clones. this allowed humans to procreate and multiply, which they did at an alarming rate. they were no longer compliant. they could tell 'good' from 'evil' and they became 'rebellious.' the uncloned humans, the adam kardmons, rescued the adam2 race. by that time, the 'gods' had created many temple compounds, landing pads and monolithic structures.9 they knew a flood was coming, so they decided to just leave and call it a good time gone awry. but creator had other ideas. the gods 'fell' or were quarantined along with humans, who survived through noah and other remnants scattered throughout the globe. after the flood all, adam kardmons, adam2 and the gods lost their immortality and began the cycle of reincarnation. the cataclysms and flooding occured about 26k yrs ago. after that, there was an ice age that only started receding about 12-13k yrs. ago. the popuation of 'men of renown' had dwindled down to a few, who went underground. some humans went underground, too. the pre-flood days had a great variety of humanoids and other 'creatures,' like gnomes and fairies, etc. after the now mortal 'gods' and both adamic races interbred, there was a select group of those with more of the 'god' gene who kept the secret of science, the dark magicians, to themselves, who decided once again, to mess with the dna of man. they added reptilian dna to the mix, which caused man to have a nervous system and brain stem that could be controlled by frequencies and psychological torture. many have tried to warn. they have tried to show what this means. the flail, in egypt, that the pharoh holds is a clue. the 'snake' an the kundalini. yoga was developed for the express purpose of breaking the grip the matrix has on us from our nervous system. sometimes i wonder if the brain was a byproduct - after all, it is split, not whole, and it is just full of grey matter. the egyptians had no traces of brain in their mummies. trepination was an obsession with certain mystics... there are cases of people who lived fully functional lives, who upon autopsy after death, it was discovered had encephalitis - water instead of brain. one was a cambridge mathematician. yoga is literally translated as 'yoke.' the bible is the book of the sect of beings who still consider themselves as gods. all writings are the creation of the bloodline of the usurper gods. if you follow the bible, which does contain many, many profound and dense truths, to the letter, you are a slave. no better than the cloned adam2. worse, you've denied your higher faculties in order to be 'obedient.' it was, after all, more comfortable. no nervous tics and pain from the system, which is an internal punishing program. they all began introducing writings about 7 - 6k years ago. the 'good' ones taught humans how to write in different places, which is why the sumerian and vedic texts tell the same stories, except from the human vantage point - which i find the most interesting of the accounts. the 'bad' ones also used flame letters and created their own book, which was all about enslaving you. it's called hebrew and the book is the bible. this is a huge load of bullshit, this is a ll imaginative speculation based on ancient myths. I don't know what's more sad; the fact that theres still people like you who live in denial and do everything in your power to block out the truth, or the fact that you think you can convince or convert others to join you In your never-ending march towards ignorance. Grow up buddy, its just a little science, history and proof |
| WeAreOne User ID: 36614936 United Kingdom04/04/2013 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A degree of skepticism is GOOD but to the point people don't turn themselves into cynicism area. When people want to say there are civilizations older than Sumerians or Sumerians being the older ones,or others prefer to say Indian and Chinese culture and so on....obviously people are CHOOSING WHAT TO ACCEPT until they CHANGE THEIR VIEWS 360 degrees when they get additional data rejecting that original point of view. And in forums lke these we find a bunch of people who are internet followers of superficial and conflictive views , people WHO NEVER READ A DAMN BOOK in their natural lives and believe that because they read SItchin's Genesis Revisited or Carl Sagan's book about Dragons in Eden they surely "know". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37404505 You gotta do a lot more than that and when you have read literally tons of book you will be more humble acknowledging we do not know the truth but have pieces of information. The cocky ones who think they know about "science" and history are the ones who usually know just a bit or nothing. It is possible to debunk much of what is said on this site. I absolutely agree that you need to research and read as much as you possibly can. There are plenty of cross-overs and confirmations once you have a broad range of knowledge about different cultures and times. The serpent is one example of something appearing all across time and locations on earth. The great flood is spoken about in just about every ancient account. It is possible to root out fact from fiction in your own mind but even then you should leave the mind open so you are able to follow new leads without bias. Only then when things become clearer and clearer. I am happy in knowing that I know nothing. It allows me to explore anything and everything from a completely blank sheet. Last Edited by WeAreOne on 04/04/2013 06:06 AM Be the change you want the World to be. Be |
| Rising Son User ID: 35530451 United States04/04/2013 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A degree of skepticism is GOOD but to the point people don't turn themselves into cynicism area. When people want to say there are civilizations older than Sumerians or Sumerians being the older ones,or others prefer to say Indian and Chinese culture and so on....obviously people are CHOOSING WHAT TO ACCEPT until they CHANGE THEIR VIEWS 360 degrees when they get additional data rejecting that original point of view. And in forums lke these we find a bunch of people who are internet followers of superficial and conflictive views , people WHO NEVER READ A DAMN BOOK in their natural lives and believe that because they read SItchin's Genesis Revisited or Carl Sagan's book about Dragons in Eden they surely "know". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37404505 You gotta do a lot more than that and when you have read literally tons of book you will be more humble acknowledging we do not know the truth but have pieces of information. The cocky ones who think they know about "science" and history are the ones who usually know just a bit or nothing. It is possible to debunk much of what is said on this site. I absolutely agree that you need to research and read as much as you possibly can. There are plenty of cross-overs and confirmations once you have a broad range of knowledge about different cultures and times. The serpent is one example of something appearing all across time and locations on earth. The great flood is spoken about in just about every ancient account. It is possible to root out fact from fiction in your own mind but even then you should leave the mind open so you are able to follow new leads without bias. Only then when things become clearer and clearer. I am happy in knowing that I know nothing. It allows me to explore anything and everything from a completely blank sheet. Well said, and how true! There are so many who are convinced that they are correct in their opinions and assumptions, yet they are so unwilling to accept a different opinion or theory, even when there is a large amount of evidence and there is no agenda attached to the conclusion. You are absolutely right, we all should be perfectly happy and content in the fact that we actually do not know anything, and we should strive to continue to be humble enough to admit that, no matter how much knowledge we come across. "Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10 Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37404505 Brazil04/04/2013 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A degree of skepticism is GOOD but to the point people don't turn themselves into cynicism area. When people want to say there are civilizations older than Sumerians or Sumerians being the older ones,or others prefer to say Indian and Chinese culture and so on....obviously people are CHOOSING WHAT TO ACCEPT until they CHANGE THEIR VIEWS 360 degrees when they get additional data rejecting that original point of view. And in forums lke these we find a bunch of people who are internet followers of superficial and conflictive views , people WHO NEVER READ A DAMN BOOK in their natural lives and believe that because they read SItchin's Genesis Revisited or Carl Sagan's book about Dragons in Eden they surely "know". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37404505 You gotta do a lot more than that and when you have read literally tons of book you will be more humble acknowledging we do not know the truth but have pieces of information. The cocky ones who think they know about "science" and history are the ones who usually know just a bit or nothing. It is possible to debunk much of what is said on this site. I absolutely agree that you need to research and read as much as you possibly can. There are plenty of cross-overs and confirmations once you have a broad range of knowledge about different cultures and times. The serpent is one example of something appearing all across time and locations on earth. The great flood is spoken about in just about every ancient account. It is possible to root out fact from fiction in your own mind but even then you should leave the mind open so you are able to follow new leads without bias. Only then when things become clearer and clearer. I am happy in knowing that I know nothing. It allows me to explore anything and everything from a completely blank sheet. Unhappily many people like the poster from Sweden just can't see the general rule of thumb. They don't know even the details of a flower and they think they can see the whole wood! This Sweden dude says "grow up" but what has he really added to the topic in "wisdom' or science? There are many different dates even for the Fall of Babylon empire. There are facts we don't know about our modern history for Christ's sake! Do you think in Argentina they teach the same history about Malvinas island as the history taught in UK? Or Vietnam war as seen by Vietnamese being the same as the one told in American books? Even educated Marlon Brando, fluent in French and other languages, critized American ignorance about how treaties with American native indians were not fulfilled by the white ones who signed up those papers and American people ignore a lot of their own history! How on earth can be sure about history in ancient times???? Inca stones can't be measured with Carbon 14, archeologists and historians guess, assume, make hypothesis about the roofs made of wood set upon stones or whatever fragmented pots and vessels or tools and they imagine they had to belong to the same time of the stone temples! They just won't accept those artifacts were made over and over and over on those megaliths. SCIENCE???? If you see a National Geographic magazine with beautiful representations of ancient people from Bolivia in Tiahuanaco, they depict a little fire unworthy of a decent meal... and they MAKE YOU BELIEVE with that design they "poured liquid metal" on the stones. Fact is there are alloys of copper and tin and gold and copper sugesting not only the use of electrolosis but very powerful furnaces which reached temperatures as high as the ones we could achieve only in 1930!!!! These metal "hooks" between stones didn't make any metal residual between the rocks and would've cracked like cream cracker cookies in a land with eartquakes. More than that, the surface of the metal would've bent or convexed due to the tension pouring the metal liquid and is not the case. It's the stones themselves which have different color in the surface which indicates THE LOCAL LEYEND WAS TRUE and stone were liquified and became hard again like cement. BUT TPTB WON'T ADMIT that because they want you to hide ancient history as mentioned in DIFFERENT CULTURES. They will want you to believe only Americans invented the airplane. The books will ignore Brazilian Santos Dummond pilot but they will spread Wright brothers did the invention, they will say Freemason Benjamin Franklin with his ridiculous key and kite discovered things already known by ancient civilizations; they will hide and destroy Nikolai Tesla and make the world believe the secrets of electricity were revealed by Thomas Edison.... history my ass!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37404505 Brazil04/04/2013 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many erros writing fast in this fu..computer with tiny letters, I wanted to write 'legend' and not 'leyend'. Anyways, we need to go deeper. Check these images. One is the Mayan description of the double snake and the other is an ancient fossil of a snake... WITH FEET: [link to fotolog.terra.com] [link to fotolog.terra.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37404505 Brazil04/04/2013 06:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is probably one of the BEST research making evident Mayans knew DNA microcoscopic structure (not just the twin snake depiction). Of course you would have to READ 7 PAGES and lazy ones who think and talk and talk about science won't have even the patience to run through it: [link to www.grahamhancock.com] Incredible details... via hallucinogenic stuff. I found it by serendepity because I was chatting with the author about other topic which is about deformation of Mayan, Inca and Egyptian skulls and he led me to this study of his. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13718874 Netherlands04/04/2013 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | helaas again [link to biblelexicon.org] period, generation, dwelling from dur to how do you pronouns this [link to www.blueletterbible.org] talaaha talassa [link to www.blueletterbible.org] |
