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Police: Man with weapons cache was preparing for 'Armageddon'

 
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Police: Man with weapons cache was preparing for 'Armageddon'
I didn't know they have set limits on how much ammo or guns you can legally buy.

Anyone can buy a bullet proof vest or body armor. RME meals are legal.




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Police: Man with weapons cache was preparing for 'Armageddon'

By Stefanie Geisler, Globe Correspondent

A Manchester-by-the-Sea man arrested for stockpiling weapons and ammunition in his home allegedly told police he was preparing for Armageddon.

Gregory D. Girard, 45, was arrested Tuesday night for allegedly storing approximately 20 weapons and thousands of rounds of ammunition.

Just before 11:30 p.m. Tuesday, Manchester-by-the Sea police executed a search warrant at 23 Bridge St., police said. Girard faces four counts of possession of an infernal device and four counts of possession of a dangerous weapon. Additional charges are pending, police said.

“Mr. Girard indicated he was preparing for ‘Armageddon,’ which he felt was imminent, and he felt martial law would soon be imposed,” Chief Glenn McKiel said in a statement.

In addition to the weapons and ammunition, police found a large collection of camouflage clothing, knives, bulletproof vests, helmets, and several pairs of handcuffs. They also discovered stockpiles of medicine and nonperishable foods. An illegal indoor shooting range was also found in the attic, police said.

Police seized all the weapons and ammunition and revoked Girard’s license to carry firearms.

Police negotiators attempted to reach Girard by phone before executing the search warrant but were unsuccessful. Tactical officers evacuated two other condominium units in the building and brought residents to the police department while the search was completed.

Girard has no criminal record, according to police. He was to be arraigned today in Salem District Court.

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Re: Police: Man with weapons cache was preparing for 'Armageddon'
is that *EAT*
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Bullshit, this guy bothered no one. Their on the move ppl get ready.
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Re: Police: Man with weapons cache was preparing for 'Armageddon'
Infernal Devices may refer to the science fiction novels
Why is this illegal and whom signed the search warrant under what guise?
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Re: Police: Man with weapons cache was preparing for 'Armageddon'
sounds like some anti gun nut told the cops he was a terrorist or some such crap.

I know more than one individual who has over 10,000 rounds of ammo stored and 2 people who have over 50 guns in their homes.
Yet they are law abiding citizens, hold a job , pay their taxes and have never killed anyone.

The 2nd Amendment is being broken/abolished daily by law enforcement when it commits such treasonous acts .

I seriously know of NO limits on how many legally purchased guns or rounds of ammo one may have in their home/posession.
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And this is illegal why???? He had a firearms lic.
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An "infernal device", eh?

Claymore mine? Hand-grenade?

Now those ARE illegal for Joe Citizen to own.
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I'm mad as hell.
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I hate hearing these news stories.. It's illegal to be prepared for anything. They probably stole everything this guy owns. Like seriously they probably stole all his helmets and dried foods too.
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is that *EAT*
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NO and NO!!! check out my gun links thread.

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hmmm

[link to www.boston.com]

wtf?

how is any of that illegal?
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I have no clue about the "indoor shooting range" and its legalities, nor the "infernal devices", whatever that means.


Smells like propaganda to me.


Still, a confusing case, someone needs to find out what these "infernal devices" were, and also, WHAT brought the cops to him in the first place?
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Not a good sign.



... that the state decided it was A ok for them to invade the man's home and arrest him for no good reason. As I understand MA does place a limit on the number of rounds of ammo you can have at one time but it's pretty high and how would they know how many he has anyway. Never heard of a limit on the number of guns. Gun range in his attic?? That's a bit strange.
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An "infernal device", eh?

Claymore mine? Hand-grenade?

Now those ARE illegal for Joe Citizen to own.
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infernal device? they found a book of matches I guess..
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is that *EAT*
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No patting on the back here.
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the police broke the law unless there is more to the story like threatening the neigbhors or something like that


we shall follow the story...nice find OP
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thats what u end up like reading and then actually believing stuff posted on glp. lol.
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The idiot had a ton of weapons and didn't use any of it and was arrested. Makes sense to me that buying arms is going to defend you, right?
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Totally illegal.

That's why you do like me and you dig a cache within 10 miles of your house in the woods with all the goodies in it.
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hmmm

[link to www.boston.com]

wtf?

how is any of that illegal?



I have no clue about the "indoor shooting range" and its legalities, nor the "infernal devices", whatever that means.


Smells like propaganda to me.


Still, a confusing case, someone needs to find out what these "infernal devices" were, and also, WHAT brought the cops to him in the first place?
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finding the indoor shooting range , now the feds /EPA will be called in to condem the house due to the toxicity of lead contamination and the man will lose his house over a bogus charge /warrant..
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OK...which GLPer is missing?
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ok which one of you was it?? lol
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Totally illegal.

That's why you do like me and you dig a cache within 10 miles of your house in the woods with all the goodies in it.
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ammo 10 miles away don't do much good if you need it asap and can't get to it.
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How did he go down w/out shooting...sounds like he was a ready except for the "final stand"? Doesn't sound like he had much "discernment" concerning the enemy!
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OK...which GLPer is missing?
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omega or trench live in the area???
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Exactly what was the reason they came to his door? I don't get this but if it is at face value of the story I'm really pissed off about it!
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And why is this illegal there go's our rights it has the U.N. gun ban what the fuck. :4: wtf
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How did he go down w/out shooting...sounds like he was a ready except for the "final stand"? Doesn't sound like he had much "discernment" concerning the enemy!
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he probably had no idea of why police were there.
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hmmm

[link to www.boston.com]

wtf?

how is any of that illegal?



I have no clue about the "indoor shooting range" and its legalities, nor the "infernal devices", whatever that means.


Smells like propaganda to me.


Still, a confusing case, someone needs to find out what these "infernal devices" were, and also, WHAT brought the cops to him in the first place?



finding the indoor shooting range , now the feds /EPA will be called in to condem the house due to the toxicity of lead contamination and the man will lose his house over a bogus charge /warrant..
 Quoting: Nailer45


Sounds like someone in high places didn't like this guy.

Now, I agree that "infernal devices" such as grenades, etc, are illegal, and I do not know the laws about indoor ranges,

but there is definitely more to this story.

Look at the comments on your link, OP, all the people calling him a whack job and such.
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Not a good sign.



... that the state decided it was A ok for them to invade the man's home and arrest him for no good reason. As I understand MA does place a limit on the number of rounds of ammo you can have at one time but it's pretty high and how would they know how many he has anyway. Never heard of a limit on the number of guns. Gun range in his attic?? That's a bit strange.
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I'm betting his so called gun range was nothing more than one of those paper targets that comes with some firearms he had hanging or posted in his attic.


The police have a way of embellishing the story so it looks better from their side.

Trust me i know first hand.

They will continue taking people down one at a time you watch.





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