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Anonymous User ID: 750018 United States 02/10/2010 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell them to call the gas company for advice. Or call & ask a plumber what's going on. (If it is a leak, the damn gas co will pull the meter right then; just call a plumber yourself at the git-go and save some time) Quoting: Anonymous 750018Correction: They should call whatever fuel supplier they use and see if they can get any input. Then call around to some HVAC companies--- Hopefully they are aware of the potential seriousness of this. Maybe they'll luck out & it's something minor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 887710 United States 02/10/2010 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone please help, I don't know what this means... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882117I have a relative asking me and I don't know what to tell them Their water heater is making a low rumbling groaning noise when they turn the thermostat to make the heat kick in.. it starts up and makes this noise but it stops as soon as they turn the thermostat back. Any ideas? Slap on your goggles, helmet, and seat belt. Then shout "THAR SHE BLOWS!!!!" |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 882117 United States 02/10/2010 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand what you guys are saying!!!! I am young and don't know anything about this, seriously. I'm sorry. I am really worried..... Should we just keep the heat off? We are in the blizzard, travel bans, no one can come to look at this or fix it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 887706 United States 02/10/2010 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand what you guys are saying!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882117I am young and don't know anything about this, seriously. I'm sorry. I am really worried..... Should we just keep the heat off? We are in the blizzard, travel bans, no one can come to look at this or fix it. It sounds like an oil fired burner but that's just a guess. Have them go outside and look at the top of the chimney to see what the smoke looks like comming out, while the burner is running. (turn up t-stat) If it's black and billowy, chances are the burner just needs a tune-up, which includes a new oil nozzle, new set of electrodes, oil filter, and a cleaning of all soot inside the combustion chamber/heat exchanger. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 882117 United States 02/10/2010 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay answers: it is OIL HEATER They aren't turning the heat on because they are afraid So I can't look at the smoke from the chimney. They might have the neighbor clear the snow from the chimney to see if this helps. Is that even what the problem is here??? I don't understand what you guys are saying!!!! Quoting: apprenticeI am young and don't know anything about this, seriously. I'm sorry. I am really worried..... Should we just keep the heat off? We are in the blizzard, travel bans, no one can come to look at this or fix it. It sounds like an oil fired burner but that's just a guess. Have them go outside and look at the top of the chimney to see what the smoke looks like comming out. If it's black and billowy, chances are the burner just needs a tune-up, which includes a new oil nozzle, new set of electrodes, oil filter, and a cleaning of all soot inside the combustion chamber/heat exchanger. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 875706 United States 02/10/2010 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then you most likely need the burner cleaned and serviced. A routine service that usually should be done yearly. Not horribly expensive. Several oil delivery companies also do this kind of work, you might check with them. If you're not handy you should have it done by a pro. I do my own, only takes about 20 minutes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 887706 United States 02/10/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay answers: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882117it is OIL HEATER They aren't turning the heat on because they are afraid So I can't look at the smoke from the chimney. They might have the neighbor clear the snow from the chimney to see if this helps. Is that even what the problem is here??? I don't understand what you guys are saying!!!! I am young and don't know anything about this, seriously. I'm sorry. I am really worried..... Should we just keep the heat off? We are in the blizzard, travel bans, no one can come to look at this or fix it. It sounds like an oil fired burner but that's just a guess. Have them go outside and look at the top of the chimney to see what the smoke looks like comming out. If it's black and billowy, chances are the burner just needs a tune-up, which includes a new oil nozzle, new set of electrodes, oil filter, and a cleaning of all soot inside the combustion chamber/heat exchanger. Yes, make sure the chimney is clear of obstruction. Have they had to reset the burner at all? There's usually a red button safety switch on the ignition control module, which is usually located right on the burner. That's what they would have reset. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 887706 United States 02/10/2010 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay thank you both for this info, I will relay it to them Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882117I will update you guys This better not explode or some shit... Oil can't explode like natty gas can. :) I think they should be okay to run as long as combustion fumes are not back drafting into the house. Hopefully they have a carbon monoxide monitor close by. Tell them to get it tuned up ASAP. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 882117 United States 02/10/2010 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay thank you both for this info, I will relay it to them Quoting: apprenticeI will update you guys This better not explode or some shit... Oil can't explode like natty gas can. :) I think they should be okay to run as long as combustion fumes are not back drafting into the house. Hopefully they have a carbon monoxide monitor close by. Tell them to get it tuned up ASAP. They don't have a carbon monoxide monitor.... :( I'm so worried What can I do to make sure there is not backdraft fumes? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 887706 United States 02/10/2010 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay thank you both for this info, I will relay it to them Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882117I will update you guys This better not explode or some shit... Oil can't explode like natty gas can. :) I think they should be okay to run as long as combustion fumes are not back drafting into the house. Hopefully they have a carbon monoxide monitor close by. Tell them to get it tuned up ASAP. They don't have a carbon monoxide monitor.... :( I'm so worried What can I do to make sure there is not backdraft fumes? If they can, have them go down to the store and buy one. Usually oil is obvious when it backs into the house, very smoky. But just to be safe I'd get one right away before running it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 545912 United States 02/10/2010 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand what you guys are saying!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882117I am young and don't know anything about this, seriously. I'm sorry. I am really worried..... Should we just keep the heat off? We are in the blizzard, travel bans, no one can come to look at this or fix it. How bout some info instead of frantically waving your hands--- is it a water heater or furnace? You said the thermostat so its not a water heater right?? Gas or oil for fuel? Heres a hint---your chimney is plugged up---go outside and check---dont run the thing till its cleared...you will kill yourself. It will back up into the basement instead of going up the chimney. Trust me, I'm an oil burner tech..a rumble is almost always caused by inadequate draft...or a partially plugged oil burner nozzle. The rumble is a pressure fluctuation in the combustion chamber area. If you dont know what your doing, call the gas/oil supplier for help. Give me more info and I will try to help. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 882117 United States 02/10/2010 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay thank you both for this info, I will relay it to them Quoting: apprenticeI will update you guys This better not explode or some shit... Oil can't explode like natty gas can. :) I think they should be okay to run as long as combustion fumes are not back drafting into the house. Hopefully they have a carbon monoxide monitor close by. Tell them to get it tuned up ASAP. They don't have a carbon monoxide monitor.... :( I'm so worried What can I do to make sure there is not backdraft fumes? If they can, have them go down to the store and buy one. Usually oil is obvious when it backs into the house, very smoky. But just to be safe I'd get one right away before running it. Thanks for your help, I appreciate this so much We can't get to a store as the nearest one is over a mile, it is dark now, I could walk but I am young and I don't know how safe it is for me to go but I don't feel very safe here, either. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 882117 United States 02/10/2010 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand what you guys are saying!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 545912I am young and don't know anything about this, seriously. I'm sorry. I am really worried..... Should we just keep the heat off? We are in the blizzard, travel bans, no one can come to look at this or fix it. How bout some info instead of frantically waving your hands--- is it a water heater or furnace? You said the thermostat so its not a water heater right?? Gas or oil for fuel? Heres a hint---your chimney is plugged up---go outside and check---dont run the thing till its cleared...you will kill yourself. It will back up into the basement instead of going up the chimney. Trust me, I'm an oil burner tech..a rumble is almost always caused by inadequate draft...or a partially plugged oil burner nozzle. The rumble is a pressure fluctuation in the combustion chamber area. If you dont know what your doing, call the gas/oil supplier for help. Give me more info and I will try to help. Thank you very much as I did answer eariler it is OIL and we have a neighbor coming up to clear the chimeny. he will be here soon, he was to walk a distance They ran it for 10 minutes or so while it was rumbling.. does this mean there are fumes in the house.. Should we air it out |
The Monk User ID: 515245 United States 02/10/2010 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone please help, I don't know what this means... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882117I have a relative asking me and I don't know what to tell them Their water heater is making a low rumbling groaning noise when they turn the thermostat to make the heat kick in.. it starts up and makes this noise but it stops as soon as they turn the thermostat back. Any ideas? Lol. Call the plumber and ask them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 545912 United States 02/10/2010 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand what you guys are saying!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882117I am young and don't know anything about this, seriously. I'm sorry. I am really worried..... Should we just keep the heat off? We are in the blizzard, travel bans, no one can come to look at this or fix it. How bout some info instead of frantically waving your hands--- is it a water heater or furnace? You said the thermostat so its not a water heater right?? Gas or oil for fuel? Heres a hint---your chimney is plugged up---go outside and check---dont run the thing till its cleared...you will kill yourself. It will back up into the basement instead of going up the chimney. Trust me, I'm an oil burner tech..a rumble is almost always caused by inadequate draft...or a partially plugged oil burner nozzle. The rumble is a pressure fluctuation in the combustion chamber area. If you dont know what your doing, call the gas/oil supplier for help. Give me more info and I will try to help. Thank you very much as I did answer eariler it is OIL and we have a neighbor coming up to clear the chimeny. he will be here soon, he was to walk a distance They ran it for 10 minutes or so while it was rumbling.. does this mean there are fumes in the house.. Should we air it out if its oil and you dont smell it, dont worry..no need to air out. let us know what your neighbor does and if the chimney is plugged. note..if the chimney is plugged then so is the furnace and it will probably need to be cleaned out too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 875706 United States 02/10/2010 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would NOT recommend running it like it is. You don't know what's wrong with it and I can't tell from here. The last guy is right it can be dangerous, I tend to think the nozzle's clogged causing a weak spray of oil entering the chamber then igniting all at once creating the rumble sound. This creates a sooty mess and will likely get soot on the cad cell causing the burner to shut off. A service call fixes it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 545912 United States 02/10/2010 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dont listen to these people...its scale buildup within Quoting: Anonymous Coward 842974the tank....its probably old and has not been flushed. it may or may not be able to be flushed now but you should probably call a plumber. this assumption is so off base it doesnt deserve a comment |
SilverPatriot User ID: 769623 United States 02/10/2010 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Call a qualified repairman to look into the problem because it can be more than you can properly deal with. Had one once that made rumbling noises because the water was boiling due to a malfunctioning thermostat but it was simply to diagnosis because the water came out of the tap boiling. The repairman ignored my assessment probably because I am a woman but even worse, in spite of my warnings he found out I was not wrong about the heat of the water. His replacement paid a whole lot more attention to what I was telling him and without scalding his hand first replaced the thermostat. Years later and another water heater had failed to work because it had an electrical short and before I could visibly see the problem, I made physical contact and then was immediately thrown into the wall and slumped to the floor. After that Miss Fixit promptly called, the repairman told him the problem and left him alone. |