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Obama's Stimulus Creating Green Jobs Overseas
Thursday, 11 Feb 2010 10:22 PM

By: John Rossomando

Although Barack Obama and other Democrats touted the $787 billion stimulus package as a way to create green jobs that would put Americans back to work, new reports show the spending package has mostly created green jobs for foreign workers.

U.S. Department of Energy statistics show 79 percent of the $2.1 billion in stimulus money allocated for wind energy has been paid to foreign manufacturers.

The Spanish company Iberdrola has received $443 million; the Portuguese company EDP has received $229 million; and the British company Terra Firma, which bought a large wind farm in western Pennsylvania, received $42 million.

Analysts worry the stimulus funds will also help create manufacturing jobs in China, and a Texas consortiumís plans to build a wind farm that primarily will rely on Chinese-made turbines using $450 million in stimulus money underscores this fear

A report from the Investigative Reporting Workshop at American University found 80 percent of the stimulus money had created 6,000 jobs, and only a small percentage of those jobs went to American workers.
Only two American companies ̶ General Electric Energy and Clipper Wind ̶ are major wind turbine manufacturers, and the American Wind Energy Associations has said the United States saw a drop in the number of wind turbine manufacturing jobs last year.

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Hope and change
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Just not for the USA
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Just not for the USA
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Are we laughing yet?
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Just not for the USA


Are we laughing yet?
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Il start laughing when that moron is gone
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The only thing that "obama"creates is controversy
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Just not for the USA


Are we laughing yet?

Il start laughing when that moron is gone
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I heard,ya. We're in for a long 3 years.
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The only thing that "obama"creates is controversy
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I almost makes you feel too sick to reply.
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I'm sorry some of those green jobs did go to Americans,,,,,American prisoners.

United Solar Ovonic, a Michigan-based company which manufactures solar panels laid off 80 employees from it's Greenville plant in New York state as those jobs will now go to 160 prisoners from Otisville,NY.
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bump
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Can you imagine that it'd be anything BUT a scam?
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I'm sorry some of those green jobs did go to Americans,,,,,American prisoners.

United Solar Ovonic, a Michigan-based company which manufactures solar panels laid off 80 employees from it's Greenville plant in New York state as those jobs will now go to 160 prisoners from Otisville,NY.
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WTF!?! Prisoners! That is bullshit. So they taking jobs from the people that are trying to support their families and give it to criminals. People who are most likely in jail for committing a crime. I think 80 jobs to people who need the money is way more important then 160 to prisoners. They probably did it so they won't spend too much. Exactly what this country needs, more ppl fucking things up.
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hi

Can you imagine that it'd be anything BUT a scam?
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But it's directly linked to that scam of all scams, man made global warming.
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I'm sorry some of those green jobs did go to Americans,,,,,American prisoners.

United Solar Ovonic, a Michigan-based company which manufactures solar panels laid off 80 employees from it's Greenville plant in New York state as those jobs will now go to 160 prisoners from Otisville,NY.



WTF!?! Prisoners! That is bullshit. So they taking jobs from the people that are trying to support their families and give it to criminals. People who are most likely in jail for committing a crime. I think 80 jobs to people who need the money is way more important then 160 to prisoners. They probably did it so they won't spend too much. Exactly what this country needs, more ppl fucking things up.
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It is a way to get around those pesky labor laws. Unless Andy Stern decides to unionize prison workers.
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I'm sorry some of those green jobs did go to Americans,,,,,American prisoners.

United Solar Ovonic, a Michigan-based company which manufactures solar panels laid off 80 employees from it's Greenville plant in New York state as those jobs will now go to 160 prisoners from Otisville,NY.



WTF!?! Prisoners! That is bullshit. So they taking jobs from the people that are trying to support their families and give it to criminals. People who are most likely in jail for committing a crime. I think 80 jobs to people who need the money is way more important then 160 to prisoners. They probably did it so they won't spend too much. Exactly what this country needs, more ppl fucking things up.


It is a way to get around those pesky labor laws. Unless Andy Stern decides to unionize prison workers.
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Yea, it's mostly prisoner contractors. My dad once told me that they use to pay 10 cents for each furniture item a prisoner would build. I don't think state prisons do that though. I wonder if prisoners are more productive then regular workers. Could they possibly doing this for more productivity at a low price?
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I'm sorry some of those green jobs did go to Americans,,,,,American prisoners.

United Solar Ovonic, a Michigan-based company which manufactures solar panels laid off 80 employees from it's Greenville plant in New York state as those jobs will now go to 160 prisoners from Otisville,NY.



WTF!?! Prisoners! That is bullshit. So they taking jobs from the people that are trying to support their families and give it to criminals. People who are most likely in jail for committing a crime. I think 80 jobs to people who need the money is way more important then 160 to prisoners. They probably did it so they won't spend too much. Exactly what this country needs, more ppl fucking things up.


It is a way to get around those pesky labor laws. Unless Andy Stern decides to unionize prison workers.



Yea, it's mostly prisoner contractors. My dad once told me that they use to pay 10 cents for each furniture item a prisoner would build. I don't think state prisons do that though. I wonder if prisoners are more productive then regular workers. Could they possibly doing this for more productivity at a low price?
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I'm sure the reason is exactly as you say, "productivity at a low price". I'm gonna say it this way. Slave labor is cheap and if those slaves want work detail they'd damn better be productive, or they'll get the hose again.
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Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., called the flow of money to foreign companies an outrage, because the stimulus, he said, was intended to create jobs inside the United States.
"This is one of those stories in Washington that when you tell people five miles outside the Beltway, or anywhere else in America, they cannot believe it," Schumer told ABC News, "It makes people lose faith in government, and it frankly infuriates me."

Is that not the damnedest thing you ever read? He's infuriated. Wonder how he feels about saddling our children and grandchildren with this debt? I'm sure he's infuriated.
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Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., called the flow of money to foreign companies an outrage, because the stimulus, he said, was intended to create jobs inside the United States.
"This is one of those stories in Washington that when you tell people five miles outside the Beltway, or anywhere else in America, they cannot believe it," Schumer told ABC News, "It makes people lose faith in government, and it frankly infuriates me."

Is that not the damnedest thing you ever read? He's infuriated. Wonder how he feels about saddling our children and grandchildren with this debt? I'm sure he's infuriated.
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They probably don't care much. It's going to be a financial mess unless war comes by. Which is likely to happen.
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Just not for the USA


Are we laughing yet?

Il start laughing when that moron is gone


I heard,ya. We're in for a long 3 years.
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Yeah i cant wait till after 3 years and then all of our problems will go away and will be solved.

As soon as we get this black devil, satanic muslim, jesusit, masonic, athesist, wicked, abortion lover out of office everything will be fine just like it was a little over a year ago.
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.
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dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.

dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.
 Quoting: jnchisox1



We will see i mean if americans vote for a liberal marxist jesuist satainist abortion lover then that means they did not research. But i they vote for palin that means they did their "research".

Yeah im so tired of the poor living high on the hog with the trillions of dollars in government handouts.

Families living in mansions and driving new cars on the government till its just not right!
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.

dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.



We will see i mean if americans vote for a liberal marxist jesuist satainist abortion lover then that means they did not research. But i they vote for palin that means they did their "research".

Yeah im so tired of the poor living high on the hog with the trillions of dollars in government handouts.

Families living in mansions and driving new cars on the government till its just not right!
 Quoting: Brother_Of_Metal

Its pretty pathetic if you ask me.
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.

dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.



We will see i mean if americans vote for a liberal marxist jesuist satainist abortion lover then that means they did not research. But i they vote for palin that means they did their "research".

Yeah im so tired of the poor living high on the hog with the trillions of dollars in government handouts.

Families living in mansions and driving new cars on the government till its just not right!

Its pretty pathetic if you ask me.
 Quoting: jnchisox1


Actually what is pathetic is that you are so disconnect from the real world that you think this is how things are.

Here i spit some outlandish shit that only an outlandish characature would say and you have agreed, that sir is what is really pathetic.

Additionally why create a false pretense you people do think everything will be fine in 3 years because its not about issues it just about you hating the current figure head.
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.

dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.



We will see i mean if americans vote for a liberal marxist jesuist satainist abortion lover then that means they did not research. But i they vote for palin that means they did their "research".

Yeah im so tired of the poor living high on the hog with the trillions of dollars in government handouts.

Families living in mansions and driving new cars on the government till its just not right!

Its pretty pathetic if you ask me.


Actually what is pathetic is that you are so disconnect from the real world that you think this is how things are.

Here i spit some outlandish shit that only an outlandish characature would say and you have agreed, that sir is what is really pathetic.

Additionally why create a false pretense you people do think everything will be fine in 3 years because its not about issues it just about you hating the current figure head.
 Quoting: Brother_Of_Metal

I never said that everything would be fixed, i said that in 2012 more voters than ever will really actually take a hard look at who they are going to vote for, for fear that the wrong choice will lead to another obama.
The fact is most of the "outlandish" comments you made were absolutely correct.
Obama is FOR partial birth abortions
Obama is Marxist in his speeches and teachings.

Its seems that you believe that NOTHING will fix america, and that is very saddening to see you give up like that.
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.

dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.



We will see i mean if americans vote for a liberal marxist jesuist satainist abortion lover then that means they did not research. But i they vote for palin that means they did their "research".

Yeah im so tired of the poor living high on the hog with the trillions of dollars in government handouts.

Families living in mansions and driving new cars on the government till its just not right!

Its pretty pathetic if you ask me.


Actually what is pathetic is that you are so disconnect from the real world that you think this is how things are.

Here i spit some outlandish shit that only an outlandish characature would say and you have agreed, that sir is what is really pathetic.

Additionally why create a false pretense you people do think everything will be fine in 3 years because its not about issues it just about you hating the current figure head.

I never said that everything would be fixed, i said that in 2012 more voters than ever will really actually take a hard look at who they are going to vote for, for fear that the wrong choice will lead to another obama.
The fact is most of the "outlandish" comments you made were absolutely correct.
Obama is FOR partial birth abortions
Obama is Marxist in his speeches and teachings.

Its seems that you believe that NOTHING will fix america, and that is very saddening to see you give up like that.
 Quoting: jnchisox1


Im sad that you think the problems are so simplistic that ideology or simple figurehead changes are going to "fix" them.

I am just realistic about what our problems are and understand there are no siverbullet solutions.


And one of the key points here is the fact that we will not agree on what exactly makes the country "broken", because ill tell you religion and "morals" are the last on the list of what is broken.
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.

dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.



We will see i mean if americans vote for a liberal marxist jesuist satainist abortion lover then that means they did not research. But i they vote for palin that means they did their "research".

Yeah im so tired of the poor living high on the hog with the trillions of dollars in government handouts.

Families living in mansions and driving new cars on the government till its just not right!

Its pretty pathetic if you ask me.


Actually what is pathetic is that you are so disconnect from the real world that you think this is how things are.

Here i spit some outlandish shit that only an outlandish characature would say and you have agreed, that sir is what is really pathetic.

Additionally why create a false pretense you people do think everything will be fine in 3 years because its not about issues it just about you hating the current figure head.

I never said that everything would be fixed, i said that in 2012 more voters than ever will really actually take a hard look at who they are going to vote for, for fear that the wrong choice will lead to another obama.
The fact is most of the "outlandish" comments you made were absolutely correct.
Obama is FOR partial birth abortions
Obama is Marxist in his speeches and teachings.

Its seems that you believe that NOTHING will fix america, and that is very saddening to see you give up like that.


Im sad that you think the problems are so simplistic that ideology or simple figurehead changes are going to "fix" them.

I am just realistic about what our problems are and understand there are no siverbullet solutions.


And one of the key points here is the fact that we will not agree on what exactly makes the country "broken", because ill tell you religion and "morals" are the last on the list of what is broken.
 Quoting: Brother_Of_Metal

I agree to disagree, because broken morals are what lead to the current state of america in my opinion. But we both have our opinions
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.

dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.



We will see i mean if americans vote for a liberal marxist jesuist satainist abortion lover then that means they did not research. But i they vote for palin that means they did their "research".

Yeah im so tired of the poor living high on the hog with the trillions of dollars in government handouts.

Families living in mansions and driving new cars on the government till its just not right!

Its pretty pathetic if you ask me.


Actually what is pathetic is that you are so disconnect from the real world that you think this is how things are.

Here i spit some outlandish shit that only an outlandish characature would say and you have agreed, that sir is what is really pathetic.

Additionally why create a false pretense you people do think everything will be fine in 3 years because its not about issues it just about you hating the current figure head.

I never said that everything would be fixed, i said that in 2012 more voters than ever will really actually take a hard look at who they are going to vote for, for fear that the wrong choice will lead to another obama.
The fact is most of the "outlandish" comments you made were absolutely correct.
Obama is FOR partial birth abortions
Obama is Marxist in his speeches and teachings.

Its seems that you believe that NOTHING will fix america, and that is very saddening to see you give up like that.


Im sad that you think the problems are so simplistic that ideology or simple figurehead changes are going to "fix" them.

I am just realistic about what our problems are and understand there are no siverbullet solutions.


And one of the key points here is the fact that we will not agree on what exactly makes the country "broken", because ill tell you religion and "morals" are the last on the list of what is broken.

I agree to disagree, because broken morals are what lead to the current state of america in my opinion. But we both have our opinions
 Quoting: jnchisox1



The question i have have to bring is when was this magical time in america when people were "moral", reading history i cant seem to find it, and reading history it would seem to me as fucked as things are now it used to be worse in many many ways.

So your thinking 1950ish or do we need to go back to around the 14th century?
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.

dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.



We will see i mean if americans vote for a liberal marxist jesuist satainist abortion lover then that means they did not research. But i they vote for palin that means they did their "research".

Yeah im so tired of the poor living high on the hog with the trillions of dollars in government handouts.

Families living in mansions and driving new cars on the government till its just not right!

Its pretty pathetic if you ask me.


Actually what is pathetic is that you are so disconnect from the real world that you think this is how things are.

Here i spit some outlandish shit that only an outlandish characature would say and you have agreed, that sir is what is really pathetic.

Additionally why create a false pretense you people do think everything will be fine in 3 years because its not about issues it just about you hating the current figure head.

I never said that everything would be fixed, i said that in 2012 more voters than ever will really actually take a hard look at who they are going to vote for, for fear that the wrong choice will lead to another obama.
The fact is most of the "outlandish" comments you made were absolutely correct.
Obama is FOR partial birth abortions
Obama is Marxist in his speeches and teachings.

Its seems that you believe that NOTHING will fix america, and that is very saddening to see you give up like that.


Im sad that you think the problems are so simplistic that ideology or simple figurehead changes are going to "fix" them.

I am just realistic about what our problems are and understand there are no siverbullet solutions.


And one of the key points here is the fact that we will not agree on what exactly makes the country "broken", because ill tell you religion and "morals" are the last on the list of what is broken.

I agree to disagree, because broken morals are what lead to the current state of america in my opinion. But we both have our opinions



The question i have have to bring is when was this magical time in america when people were "moral", reading history i cant seem to find it, and reading history it would seem to me as fucked as things are now it used to be worse in many many ways.

So your thinking 1950ish or do we need to go back to around the 14th century?
 Quoting: Brother_Of_Metal

Thats a good point.
I guess what it comes down to for me is that since 1775 america has constantly evolved in civil rights and human decency, but lately it seems that america is devolving for the first time in our history
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Just 3 years left and then everything will be fine, i cant wait.

dude, we get the sarcasm.
Everything wont be fine but at least america will have a better chance of surviving on its own with a new president.
2012 will be such an important election because voters are going to actually research who they vote for this time. Well, except the poor, they will always vote democrat because they want to keep getting handouts.



We will see i mean if americans vote for a liberal marxist jesuist satainist abortion lover then that means they did not research. But i they vote for palin that means they did their "research".

Yeah im so tired of the poor living high on the hog with the trillions of dollars in government handouts.

Families living in mansions and driving new cars on the government till its just not right!

Its pretty pathetic if you ask me.


Actually what is pathetic is that you are so disconnect from the real world that you think this is how things are.

Here i spit some outlandish shit that only an outlandish characature would say and you have agreed, that sir is what is really pathetic.

Additionally why create a false pretense you people do think everything will be fine in 3 years because its not about issues it just about you hating the current figure head.

I never said that everything would be fixed, i said that in 2012 more voters than ever will really actually take a hard look at who they are going to vote for, for fear that the wrong choice will lead to another obama.
The fact is most of the "outlandish" comments you made were absolutely correct.
Obama is FOR partial birth abortions
Obama is Marxist in his speeches and teachings.

Its seems that you believe that NOTHING will fix america, and that is very saddening to see you give up like that.


Im sad that you think the problems are so simplistic that ideology or simple figurehead changes are going to "fix" them.

I am just realistic about what our problems are and understand there are no siverbullet solutions.


And one of the key points here is the fact that we will not agree on what exactly makes the country "broken", because ill tell you religion and "morals" are the last on the list of what is broken.

I agree to disagree, because broken morals are what lead to the current state of america in my opinion. But we both have our opinions



The question i have have to bring is when was this magical time in america when people were "moral", reading history i cant seem to find it, and reading history it would seem to me as fucked as things are now it used to be worse in many many ways.

So your thinking 1950ish or do we need to go back to around the 14th century?

Thats a good point.
I guess what it comes down to for me is that since 1775 america has constantly evolved in civil rights and human decency, but lately it seems that america is devolving for the first time in our history
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See how this works?

This is much more reasonable statement that you have previously made and i have to agree.

Ill put forward that a possible way to help with this problem would be to remove the pentagon's influence from our police, they have become way too militarized all based off of a few incidents.

Police i would like to see are only people that are from the community they are policing, what we have now is like a occupying force in our communities.





GLP