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Woodsprite (OP) User ID: 893696 United States 02/17/2010 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the message Woodsprite. Quoting: Full CircleYou're welcome.... I went looking for it this morning, because of something someone else said on here... Another thread, about this same subject...it's a video, I think...people are now talking to the Elders up North about what's going on, and they are basically saying this same thing. I couldn't listen to the video, my speakers are dead...but there was also some written info about it on the thread. |
Full Circle User ID: 890668 Canada 02/17/2010 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds very much like the Blue Kachina message of the Hopis, just a different name of the star. Interesting he re-iterated it in Feb of 07 and then Holmes occurred in Nov 07.. Last Edited by Full Circle on 02/17/2010 01:23 PM Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 863082 United States 02/17/2010 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some changes will begin when the feeling of fire burn within the people..... Quoting: WoodspriteThose that have returned to the old ways that understand the original teachings, they live and walk in a natural way;...... It is important to understand that these messages will be found in and on every living thing, all will carry these messages.... So intense will the nature of the changes be that those who are weak in spiritual understanding will not maintain their balance of thinking, for their walk was nothing without faith.... Only those who return to the values of the teachings of the old ways will be able to find peace of mind and balance during this purification. Very relevant! Thanks for posting! I think it's critical to tune in to self and develop the ability to connect with your true self/intuition in order to receive the messages we're intended to hear! |
Woodsprite (OP) User ID: 893696 United States 02/17/2010 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sounds very much like the Blue Kachina message of the Hopis, just a different name of the star. Quoting: Full CircleInteresting he re-iterated it in Feb of 07 and then Holmes occurred in Nov 07.. I think it sounds very similar too... It's been quite some time ago when all this was going on, it's difficult for me to remember if Comet Holmes was discussed in relation to the Blue Star Kachina Prophesy, and what the current Elders were saying...or not. Knowing the group, I'd say it was, because just like everyone else that has been watching Prophesy unfold since this New Millinnium began, we looked at everything happening in the sky. I can still get in contact with the group moderator/owner, I'll have to ask her if she remembers talking about Comet Holmes and this statememt from the Elders... |
Full Circle User ID: 890668 Canada 02/17/2010 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally, I think Holmes WAS the Blue Kachina. It's just a matter of time now. Like the message says, people are either returned to the ancient understanding or not. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
Woodsprite (OP) User ID: 893696 United States 02/17/2010 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's critical to tune in to self and develop the ability to connect with your true self/intuition in order to receive the messages we're intended to hear! Quoting: RubylocksYou're welcome.. EXACTLY!!!!!! |
Riker User ID: 684208 United States 02/17/2010 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
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Full Circle User ID: 890668 Canada 02/17/2010 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: RikerHi Riker. You and I talked a long time ago about Daniel Quinn's books and message. You understand the difference between the Leavers and the Takers. This is very similar to that. Which are you? Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
Riker User ID: 684208 United States 02/17/2010 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: Full CircleHi Riker. You and I talked a long time ago about Daniel Quinn's books and message. You understand the difference between the Leavers and the Takers. This is very similar to that. Which are you? I want to be a Leaver but it would be a lie to say that I am while I sit on a computer wouldn't it? You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Riker User ID: 684208 United States 02/17/2010 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: Full CircleHi Riker. You and I talked a long time ago about Daniel Quinn's books and message. You understand the difference between the Leavers and the Takers. This is very similar to that. Which are you? And Hi Full Circle. :-D You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Riker User ID: 684208 United States 02/17/2010 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't it too late? How will living as a leaver in low lying areas save me from the floods that will come? You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
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Riker User ID: 684208 United States 02/17/2010 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: waiting 621329I don't either, yet I await the appearace of the Blue Star! I hope we both figure it out in time. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Woodsprite (OP) User ID: 893696 United States 02/17/2010 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally, I think Holmes WAS the Blue Kachina. It's just a matter of time now. Quoting: Full CircleLike the message says, people are either returned to the ancient understanding or not. I think it was too, unfortunatly.. Something that happened to me , personally that same year led me to that conclusion. I was in prayer the week before the Summer Solstice, asking what the Ceremony was supposed to be focused on...when I was sent an animal messenger to the question. I was inside a locked building, had 3 stories, I was alone in the basement working ( I was working as an artist/set designer for a haunted house), asking about the upcoming Ceremony, speaking with Creator, when a big brown bat came flying out of the back. It flew inbetween my scene walls and the outside wall of the building, made 3 giant loops around my head, then took off flying, back into the bright lights, behind my scene walls, somewhere ... Never could find that bat again!!! It flew so close to me, I could have touched it...I did put my hand out to see if it would alter it's course, or land on it the second time it looped around me, but it didn't alter it's path, just made the 3 loops then left. According to Spiritual/Totem type beliefs, in most Native cultures, Bat is a symbol of the life cycle... Birth, Death ,Rebirth. So, I had a very personal message from Creator about what was going on....we are in the middle part...Death.. |
Full Circle User ID: 890668 Canada 02/17/2010 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: RikerHi Riker. You and I talked a long time ago about Daniel Quinn's books and message. You understand the difference between the Leavers and the Takers. This is very similar to that. Which are you? I want to be a Leaver but it would be a lie to say that I am while I sit on a computer wouldn't it? The Leavers, in contrast, are the peoples who have elected to leave the Law of Life in the hands of the gods, and who themselves live in the hands of the gods. The Leavers know that the gods alone know how to keep an equitable balance in the world among those who should live, and those who should die; for everything that lives, lives because something else dies to sustain its life. Thus on one day, the gods decide that the rabbit shall live, and the fox shall go hungry. Another day, the gods decide that the rabbit shall die, and the fox shall dine well that day. The Leavers are the many, many peoples who for the past three million years have lived as all other beings on Earth have lived, in the hands of the gods. The Takers are the single culture which for the past ten thousand years have chosen instead to take the administration of their own lives, the administration of the Earth, and the administration of the entire Universe, if possible, out of the hands of the gods, and decide for themselves what is good and what is evil, what shall live, and what shall die. The Takers invented civilization, which is today in the final stage of collapse because the Takers have long since forgotten the Law of Life, and no longer know how to live. The Taker way of life is a made-up way of life, an entirely fabricated Taker invention, in substitution for the Law of Life which they have discarded, and taken upon themselves to "rewrite." Taker "law" (so called) is a jerry-rigged hodge-podge, frantically cobbled together, year after year, millennium after millennium, in a vain and futile attempt to replace the only real Law there ever was: the Law of Life. If the Takers persist in taking the Law of Life into their own hands, they shall assuredly "go down with the ship," and if anyone survives the collapse of civilization, it will be the Leavers, and beings who, like the Leavers, live in the hands of the gods, and in harmony with the Law of Life. ******* I think it's the ideology and knowing where your heart lies. You can be in this world, but not of it.... Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
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Full Circle User ID: 890668 Canada 02/17/2010 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally, I think Holmes WAS the Blue Kachina. It's just a matter of time now. Quoting: WoodspriteLike the message says, people are either returned to the ancient understanding or not. I think it was too, unfortunatly.. Something that happened to me , personally that same year led me to that conclusion. Sorry to snip your post! That's interesting because so did I! I had a dream of 'blue kachina' statues being placed outside of businesses as they were being closed up. I woke up with the understanding that it would not be business as usual and that things were shutting down. At the time, I had no idea what a blue kachina was so I had to look it up on line...and this was exactly when Holmes was prominent in the news and the blue kachina prophecy was being debated about. So it was a very timely message for me. Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
Aquarius 7 User ID: 893701 United States 02/17/2010 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (bookmarked to read later today) . . Cayce: “… The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. …. then we may know it has begun …”. www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html . "Be kind, for everyone you know is fighting a hard battle" - Plato . "Those who are at peace in their hearts already are in the Great Shelter of life." ~ Hopi Prophecy . |
Woodsprite (OP) User ID: 893696 United States 02/17/2010 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: RikerI have interpreted to mean living a more simple life. Personally, I live a life where I try to take, only what I need, when I need it. I try to not hurt Mother, or any living thing..try to be humane about eating meat. Kill it quickly, so it dosen't suffer, say thank you to the animal for giving me it's life so I can live, try not to waste it. I consider plants as sentient as animals, so I always do the same thing when I pick my vegetables too. I don't throw trash around, and reuse and recycle as much as I can. I don't drive unless there is a real need to get from 1 place to another, and even then, I'll line up several stops to hit when I'm out, so I won't have to make repeat trips to the same area... If you sit and think about it, there are tons of ways for the average person to help not contribute to Mother's destruction..just takes a desire, and a bit of thought, sometimes a bit more effort...but in the end, I think it is worth it. About the Spiritual/Soul componet... I listen to my "inner voice", instead of any one else, as it has always been the wisest. I've found that instead of going and listening to someone else that says they are talking to Creator....I get the best answers if I just speak to Creator myself, and listen for the answers to come. Sometimes, it is like a small voice in my ear, sometimes, I'm led to see or read something somewhere, and it contains the answer...I know it when it happens.. Just have to truly believe in Creator, and want to have the conversation/ relationship...and then start talking, and listening/watching for the answers to come. |
Woodsprite (OP) User ID: 893696 United States 02/17/2010 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: Full CircleHi Riker. You and I talked a long time ago about Daniel Quinn's books and message. You understand the difference between the Leavers and the Takers. This is very similar to that. Which are you? I want to be a Leaver but it would be a lie to say that I am while I sit on a computer wouldn't it? The Leavers, in contrast, are the peoples who have elected to leave the Law of Life in the hands of the gods, and who themselves live in the hands of the gods. The Leavers know that the gods alone know how to keep an equitable balance in the world among those who should live, and those who should die; for everything that lives, lives because something else dies to sustain its life. Thus on one day, the gods decide that the rabbit shall live, and the fox shall go hungry. Another day, the gods decide that the rabbit shall die, and the fox shall dine well that day. The Leavers are the many, many peoples who for the past three million years have lived as all other beings on Earth have lived, in the hands of the gods. The Takers are the single culture which for the past ten thousand years have chosen instead to take the administration of their own lives, the administration of the Earth, and the administration of the entire Universe, if possible, out of the hands of the gods, and decide for themselves what is good and what is evil, what shall live, and what shall die. The Takers invented civilization, which is today in the final stage of collapse because the Takers have long since forgotten the Law of Life, and no longer know how to live. The Taker way of life is a made-up way of life, an entirely fabricated Taker invention, in substitution for the Law of Life which they have discarded, and taken upon themselves to "rewrite." Taker "law" (so called) is a jerry-rigged hodge-podge, frantically cobbled together, year after year, millennium after millennium, in a vain and futile attempt to replace the only real Law there ever was: the Law of Life. If the Takers persist in taking the Law of Life into their own hands, they shall assuredly "go down with the ship," and if anyone survives the collapse of civilization, it will be the Leavers, and beings who, like the Leavers, live in the hands of the gods, and in harmony with the Law of Life. ******* I think it's the ideology and knowing where your heart lies. You can be in this world, but not of it.... I LOVE this post about leavers and takers!!! It could not strike me as being any better explained than how this does it. I agree with what you said too! |
Woodsprite (OP) User ID: 893696 United States 02/17/2010 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally, I think Holmes WAS the Blue Kachina. It's just a matter of time now. Quoting: Full CircleLike the message says, people are either returned to the ancient understanding or not. I think it was too, unfortunatly.. Something that happened to me , personally that same year led me to that conclusion. Sorry to snip your post! That's interesting because so did I! I had a dream of 'blue kachina' statues being placed outside of businesses as they were being closed up. I woke up with the understanding that it would not be business as usual and that things were shutting down. At the time, I had no idea what a blue kachina was so I had to look it up on line...and this was exactly when Holmes was prominent in the news and the blue kachina prophecy was being debated about. So it was a very timely message for me. Whispers to the Spirt, sounds like... ;) |
Full Circle User ID: 890668 Canada 02/17/2010 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: WoodspriteI have interpreted to mean living a more simple life. Personally, I live a life where I try to take, only what I need, when I need it. I try to not hurt Mother, or any living thing..try to be humane about eating meat. Kill it quickly, so it dosen't suffer, say thank you to the animal for giving me it's life so I can live, try not to waste it. I consider plants as sentient as animals, so I always do the same thing when I pick my vegetables too. I don't throw trash around, and reuse and recycle as much as I can. I don't drive unless there is a real need to get from 1 place to another, and even then, I'll line up several stops to hit when I'm out, so I won't have to make repeat trips to the same area... If you sit and think about it, there are tons of ways for the average person to help not contribute to Mother's destruction..just takes a desire, and a bit of thought, sometimes a bit more effort...but in the end, I think it is worth it. About the Spiritual/Soul componet... I listen to my "inner voice", instead of any one else, as it has always been the wisest. I've found that instead of going and listening to someone else that says they are talking to Creator....I get the best answers if I just speak to Creator myself, and listen for the answers to come. Sometimes, it is like a small voice in my ear, sometimes, I'm led to see or read something somewhere, and it contains the answer...I know it when it happens.. Just have to truly believe in Creator, and want to have the conversation/ relationship...and then start talking, and listening/watching for the answers to come. Well said Woodsprite. And all very true. And yes, like the Leavers and Takers. It's about respect for the Law of Life. Good thread! Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |
Woodsprite (OP) User ID: 893696 United States 02/17/2010 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two brothers, anti-christ and the beast. Maitreya claims he will come with the Jesus. Islam claims Mahdi will come with Jesus...UN lucis trust agenda... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 891465This isn't based on Christianity, it is about Native American Spirituality, and Prophesy...but if you would like to relate it to Christianity , why could it not be " The 2 Witnesses"? Could be, just as easily. This has NOTHING to do with The Illuminatti |
Riker User ID: 684208 United States 02/17/2010 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: WoodspriteI have interpreted to mean living a more simple life. Personally, I live a life where I try to take, only what I need, when I need it. I try to not hurt Mother, or any living thing..try to be humane about eating meat. Kill it quickly, so it dosen't suffer, say thank you to the animal for giving me it's life so I can live, try not to waste it. I consider plants as sentient as animals, so I always do the same thing when I pick my vegetables too. I don't throw trash around, and reuse and recycle as much as I can. I don't drive unless there is a real need to get from 1 place to another, and even then, I'll line up several stops to hit when I'm out, so I won't have to make repeat trips to the same area... If you sit and think about it, there are tons of ways for the average person to help not contribute to Mother's destruction..just takes a desire, and a bit of thought, sometimes a bit more effort...but in the end, I think it is worth it. About the Spiritual/Soul componet... I listen to my "inner voice", instead of any one else, as it has always been the wisest. I've found that instead of going and listening to someone else that says they are talking to Creator....I get the best answers if I just speak to Creator myself, and listen for the answers to come. Sometimes, it is like a small voice in my ear, sometimes, I'm led to see or read something somewhere, and it contains the answer...I know it when it happens.. Just have to truly believe in Creator, and want to have the conversation/ relationship...and then start talking, and listening/watching for the answers to come. Thank you Woodsprite. I do these things now as well. We try hard to be leavers. I would love to live on the land 100% but I don't know how that would be possible in this age. We are trying to "buy" land now so that we can be more connected and take full responsibility for our food but it is hard to make happen. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Riker User ID: 684208 United States 02/17/2010 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two brothers, anti-christ and the beast. Maitreya claims he will come with the Jesus. Islam claims Mahdi will come with Jesus...UN lucis trust agenda... Quoting: WoodspriteThis isn't based on Christianity, it is about Native American Spirituality, and Prophesy...but if you would like to relate it to Christianity , why could it not be " The 2 Witnesses"? Could be, just as easily. This has NOTHING to do with The Illuminatti I always felt like the brothers were comets or something. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Riker User ID: 684208 United States 02/17/2010 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posts like these strike very deep for me but I still don't understand what I am supposed to do. Quoting: Full CircleHi Riker. You and I talked a long time ago about Daniel Quinn's books and message. You understand the difference between the Leavers and the Takers. This is very similar to that. Which are you? I want to be a Leaver but it would be a lie to say that I am while I sit on a computer wouldn't it? The Leavers, in contrast, are the peoples who have elected to leave the Law of Life in the hands of the gods, and who themselves live in the hands of the gods. The Leavers know that the gods alone know how to keep an equitable balance in the world among those who should live, and those who should die; for everything that lives, lives because something else dies to sustain its life. Thus on one day, the gods decide that the rabbit shall live, and the fox shall go hungry. Another day, the gods decide that the rabbit shall die, and the fox shall dine well that day. The Leavers are the many, many peoples who for the past three million years have lived as all other beings on Earth have lived, in the hands of the gods. The Takers are the single culture which for the past ten thousand years have chosen instead to take the administration of their own lives, the administration of the Earth, and the administration of the entire Universe, if possible, out of the hands of the gods, and decide for themselves what is good and what is evil, what shall live, and what shall die. The Takers invented civilization, which is today in the final stage of collapse because the Takers have long since forgotten the Law of Life, and no longer know how to live. The Taker way of life is a made-up way of life, an entirely fabricated Taker invention, in substitution for the Law of Life which they have discarded, and taken upon themselves to "rewrite." Taker "law" (so called) is a jerry-rigged hodge-podge, frantically cobbled together, year after year, millennium after millennium, in a vain and futile attempt to replace the only real Law there ever was: the Law of Life. If the Takers persist in taking the Law of Life into their own hands, they shall assuredly "go down with the ship," and if anyone survives the collapse of civilization, it will be the Leavers, and beings who, like the Leavers, live in the hands of the gods, and in harmony with the Law of Life. ******* I think it's the ideology and knowing where your heart lies. You can be in this world, but not of it.... Thanks again FC. I hope it is enough. You shall know the TRUTH, and the TRUTH shall set you free. ********************************* rikerglp (at) gmail.com ********************************* |
Full Circle User ID: 890668 Canada 02/17/2010 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always felt like the brothers were comets or something. Quoting: RikerI had thought maybe they were the pole stars Born into this World We create echoes of our inward yearnings And Shift along the Axis From matter to Spirit - Scott Mutter |