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Adam and Eve not the first humans, And what really happened in the Garden of Eden

 
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I just really get a kick out of reading these bible fable threads because so many people actually believe them to be true but in reality they are so much falderal.
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did astronauts walk on the moon?
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CAVEMAN is a textbook fiction that
NEVER EXISTED

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I just really get a kick out of reading these bible fable threads because so many people actually believe them to be true but in reality they are so much falderal.

did astronauts walk on the moon?
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did they?
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that is RH - is the blood of woman.... RH+ is part monkey....
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I think it's a little more involved than that.


Scientists sometimes study Rhesus monkeys to learn more about the human anatomy because there are certain similarities between the two species. While studying Rhesus monkeys, a certain blood protein was discovered. This protein is also present in the blood of some people. Other people, however, do not have the protein. The presence of the protein, or lack of it, is referred to as the Rh (for Rhesus) factor.

If your blood does contain the protein, your blood is said to be Rh positive (Rh+). If your blood does not contain the protein, your blood is said to be Rh negative (Rh-).

This Rh factor is connected to your blood type. For example, your blood may be AB+ which means that you have type AB blood with a positive Rh factor. Or, you might have O- blood which means that you have type O blood with a negative Rh factor.

It is particularly important for expectant mothers to know their blood's Rh factor. Occasionally, a baby will inherit an Rh positive blood type from its father while the mother has an Rh negative blood type. The baby's life could be in great danger if the mother's Rh negative blood attacks the baby's Rh positive blood. If this happens, an exchange transfusion may save the baby's life. The baby's blood can be exchanged for new blood that matches the mother's.
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It's funny how we just assume everyone is white unless told otherwise.
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well an orange seed produces and orange, and an apple seed and apple so a white seed would produce white and a black, black but mix the white seed with the black seed and you get a brown seed or an arab? no offense anyone.
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that is RH - is the blood of woman.... RH+ is part monkey....

I think it's a little more involved than that.


Scientists sometimes study Rhesus monkeys to learn more about the human anatomy because there are certain similarities between the two species. While studying Rhesus monkeys, a certain blood protein was discovered. This protein is also present in the blood of some people. Other people, however, do not have the protein. The presence of the protein, or lack of it, is referred to as the Rh (for Rhesus) factor.

If your blood does contain the protein, your blood is said to be Rh positive (Rh+). If your blood does not contain the protein, your blood is said to be Rh negative (Rh-).

This Rh factor is connected to your blood type. For example, your blood may be AB+ which means that you have type AB blood with a positive Rh factor. Or, you might have O- blood which means that you have type O blood with a negative Rh factor.

It is particularly important for expectant mothers to know their blood's Rh factor. Occasionally, a baby will inherit an Rh positive blood type from its father while the mother has an Rh negative blood type. The baby's life could be in great danger if the mother's Rh negative blood attacks the baby's Rh positive blood. If this happens, an exchange transfusion may save the baby's life. The baby's blood can be exchanged for new blood that matches the mother's.
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so you are an evolutionist? or no? how did a factor from the blood of an old world rhesus monkey get into human blood? ideas?
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You really should do your homework grasshopper!!
Adam and Eve were not white!!
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Ah come on HT. You just had to go and spoil OP's illusion, now didn't you!


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Whom, then, are the descendants of Adam and Eve? The evidence strongly indicates that it is the white race. The word "Adam" in the Hebrew is "aw-dam'", which means "to show blood (in the face), i.e. flush or turn rosy". See for yourself in Strong's Hebrew Lexicon: [link to www.eliyah.com]

This is also supported by the fact that the people primarily concerned with the "traditions of Abraham" over the course of modern history have almost exclusively been the white peoples (and "hybrids" or mongrels with significant white ancestry...eg, Arabs). For thousands of years, blacks and asians were isolated in Africa and the Far East and overwhelmingly unconcerned or unaware of the traditions of Adam, Abraham, and their descendants -- with the exception of the last few hundred years when white missionaries spread Christianity among blacks and asians.

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Actually, Adam and Eve were different colors. Eve was born from annunaki parents. Her mother Ninhursag had dark hair and olive skin and Eve's father Enki had blue eyes and blond hair.

Adam was even a little darker than you think but looked like a white guy sure enough. His mother was a pre historic chimp looking creature and Adams father was Enki which of coarse made adam and Eve in Eridu 2000BC white but Eve had olive skin and brunette hair and Adam had blond hair like his father Enki.

Now! If you think Adam is the father of kain you would be incorrect. Enlil was Ninhursags full blood brother. Both Enlil and Ninhursag had black hair and blue eyes. they also both had olive skin.

Nin was Eves mother. Enki was Eve's father but Enlil whom was later known as Lucifer was Eve's uncle. He penetrated Eve and became Kains father. Henceforth, kain had olive skin,blue eyes,and black hair.

One minute later Eve bore Abel whom was Adams son. Abel had blond hair and blue eyes.

There were Sumerains around at that time. They took on black skin to olive skin. Eve cheated on Adam many times and one time Eve brought home a daughter. She was half annunaki and half black looking. She was the one who went off with Kain to Nod.

There were people before Adam and Eve but they werent speaking and established people. they were more stupid and couldn't form speech. It was the Annunaki that assisted the primitive people by mating with them that caused them to become more intelligent. Before the ET's settled here cave people were hairy pre historic creatures. It was the ET's that landed that made them more civilized through impregnating the females with their ET sperm and causing the females of this Earth to birth children with better DNA.
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You really should do your homework grasshopper!!
Adam and Eve were not white!!
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Ah come on HT. You just had to go and spoil OP's illusion, now didn't you!
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Yeah, really. With nothing more than a blanket statement to boot....no explanation, no points of argument, no evidence, no links, nothing.

My position is shot.

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Rh+ antigen factor of the Rhesus macaque aka macaca of india mulatta.....>99% are Asian and >99% African. Rh- blood does not contain this antigen. The highest Rh- blood group occur in the Basque peoples. N Spain, S France and European Jews. Rh+ people can be cloned, Rh- cannot. (isn't that strange). A mutation in genes is an error in the dna code. (hmmmmm, interesting).
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My position is shot.
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You are half righ "yah"

Enki did have blond hair and blue eyes.

But Ninhursag,his half sister had olive skin,black hair,and blue eyes.


Eve took on the traits of her mother. Adam took on the traits of his dad. I am referring to the Adam and Eve in 2000BC

Eridu,Iraq of coarse.
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Accounting for the reality that not all humans descend from a common ancestor, and that there are "humans" of satanic lineage, is it a wonder that YAHWEH forbid the Israelites to mix with other races?


Exodus 33:16 "So shall we be separated, I and all of Thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth."

Deuteronomy 7:3 "Neither shalt thou make marriages with them: thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son."

Ezra 9:2 "For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the HOLY SEED have MIXED themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this TRESPASS."


Hosea 5:7 "They have dealt treacherously against YAHWEH: for they have begotten STRANGE children:"

Note: The word "strange" from Hosea 5:7 is from Strong's Hebrew word #2114
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which is the Hebrew word "zuwr", meaning "a foreigner".
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Nehemiah 9:2 "And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all STRANGERS and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers."

Note: "Strangers" above in Nehemiah 9:2 is from Strong's Hewbrew Word #5236
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which is the Hebrew word "nekar", meaning "a foreigner" or an "alien".
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Nehemiah 13:3 "Now it came to pass, when they had heard the law, that they separated from Israel all the MIXED multitude."


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The Behemah, pre-Adamites.

The word Hebrew word behemah has puzzled all the translators, Strong's remarks that it is from an unknown root and that its definition "probably" means "to be mute" and from that they get, "properly a dumb beast; especially any large quadruped or animal (often collectively): - beast, cattle.". What we do know about the word is that appears in various points in the Bible with distinct characterizations given to it.


The first we see the Hebrew word behemah is in Genesis 1:25. The word behemah was translated as cattle in the KJV.

Genesis 1:25
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

I will continue coloring all uses of the word behemah red and Adam blue.

Behemah covered with sackcloth and crying mightly unto God.

Jonah 3:7-8
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree, of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast,herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed,nor408 drink water: 8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one[ from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.

Behemah with hands.

Exodus 19:13
"There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount." 

Behemah with feet.

Ezekiel 19:11
No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.


Behemah in tents.

Zechariah 14:15
And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beast that shall be in these tents, as this plague.


Behemah are inhabitants.

Jeremiah 21:6
And I will smite the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast: they shall die of a great pestilence.


No hire for Adam nor Behemah.

Zechariah 8:10
For before these days there was no hire for man, nor any hire for beast; neither was there any peace to him that went out or came in because of the affliction: for I set all men every one against his neighbor.

Boils on Adam and Behemah.

Exodus 9:9
"And it shall become small dust in all the land of Egypt, and shall be a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast, throughout all the land of Egypt."

First born of Egypt killed, both Adam and Behemah.

Exodus 13:15
And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem.

Do not lie with Behemah.

Leviticus 18:23
Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

Man/woman and behemah slain for sleeping together

Leviticus 18:23
And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them,

Leviticus 20:15
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

God sowing the House of Israel and Judah with the posterity of behemah.

Jeremiah 31:27
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah, with the seed of man, and with the seed of the beast.

So from what we know of the description of the behemah is that they have hands, feet, wear sackcloth, live in tents, can be hired, and can cry mightly unto God. It is clearly a description of a humanoid people.
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OP is right. They were white, and very blonde ...

Here's proof:


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WHITE EUROPEAN? I THINK NOT!!!!



Philip and the Ethiopian
26Now an angel of the Lord said to Philip, "Go south to the road—the desert road—that goes down from Jerusalem to Gaza." 27So he started out, and on his way he met an Ethiopian[d]eunuch, an important official in charge of all the treasury of Candace, queen of the Ethiopians. This man had gone to Jerusalem to worship, 28and on his way home was sitting in his chariot reading the book of Isaiah the prophet. 29The Spirit told Philip, "Go to that chariot and stay near it."
30Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. "Do you understand what you are reading?" Philip asked.

31"How can I," he said, "unless someone explains it to me?" So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.

32The eunuch was reading this passage of Scripture:
"He was led like a sheep to the slaughter,
and as a lamb before the shearer is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
33In his humiliation he was deprived of justice.
Who can speak of his descendants?
For his life was taken from the earth."[e]

34The eunuch asked Philip, "Tell me, please, who is the prophet talking about, himself or someone else?" 35Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus.

36As they traveled along the road, they came to some water and the eunuch said, "Look, here is water. Why shouldn't I be baptized?"[f] 38And he gave orders to stop the chariot. Then both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water and Philip baptized him. 39When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him again, but went on his way rejoicing. 40Philip, however, appeared at Azotus and traveled about, preaching the gospel in all the towns until he reached Caesarea.
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The Behemah, pre-Adamites.

The word Hebrew word behemah has puzzled all the translators, Strong's remarks that it is from an unknown root and that its definition "probably" means "to be mute" and from that they get, "properly a dumb beast; especially any large quadruped or animal (often collectively): - beast, cattle.". What we do know about the word is that appears in various points in the Bible with distinct characterizations given to it.


The first we see the Hebrew word behemah is in Genesis 1:25. The word behemah was translated as cattle in the KJV.

Genesis 1:25
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

I will continue coloring all uses of the word behemah red and Adam blue.

Behemah covered with sackcloth and crying mightly unto God.

Jonah 3:7-8
7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree, of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast,herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed,nor408 drink water: 8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one[ from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.

Behemah with hands.

Exodus 19:13
"There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount." 

Behemah with feet.

Ezekiel 19:11
No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.


Behemah in tents.

Zechariah 14:15
And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beast that shall be in these tents, as this plague.


Behemah are inhabitants.

Jeremiah 21:6
And I will smite the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast: they shall die of a great pestilence.


No hire for Adam nor Behemah.

Zechariah 8:10
For before these days there was no hire for man, nor any hire for beast; neither was there any peace to him that went out or came in because of the affliction: for I set all men every one against his neighbor.

Boils on Adam and Behemah.

Exodus 9:9
"And it shall become small dust in all the land of Egypt, and shall be a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast, throughout all the land of Egypt."

First born of Egypt killed, both Adam and Behemah.

Exodus 13:15
And it came to pass, when Pharaoh would hardly let us go, that the LORD slew all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both the firstborn of man, and the firstborn of beast: therefore I sacrifice to the LORD all that openeth the matrix, being males; but all the firstborn of my children I redeem.

Do not lie with Behemah.

Leviticus 18:23
Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

Man/woman and behemah slain for sleeping together

Leviticus 18:23
And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them,

Leviticus 20:15
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

God sowing the House of Israel and Judah with the posterity of behemah.

Jeremiah 31:27
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah, with the seed of man, and with the seed of the beast.

So from what we know of the description of the behemah is that they have hands, feet, wear sackcloth, live in tents, can be hired, and can cry mightly unto God. It is clearly a description of a humanoid people.
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INTERESTING!

Perhaps these are the vessels made for destruction?
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You really should do your homework grasshopper!!
Adam and Eve were not white!!
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Ah come on HT. You just had to go and spoil OP's illusion, now didn't you!

Yeah, really. With nothing more than a blanket statement to boot....no explanation, no points of argument, no evidence, no links, nothing.

My position is shot.
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According to the Haggadah, Adam's hands—indeed, his whole body—were covered with a horny skin up to the time of his fall (Löw, l.c. xxi.).

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According to the Haggadah, Adam's hands—indeed, his whole body—were covered with a horny skin up to the time of his fall (Löw, l.c. xxi.).

[link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]
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Why would anyone accept the Talmudic Ba'al religious texts as any authority?
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According to the Haggadah, Adam's hands—indeed, his whole body—were covered with a horny skin up to the time of his fall (Löw, l.c. xxi.).

[link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]


Why would anyone accept the Talmudic Ba'al religious texts as any authority?
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Why, or how could anyone accept the modern day bible that has been rewritten and so heavily edited and sugar coated as to have completely lost its original meanings!!
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According to the Haggadah, Adam's hands—indeed, his whole body—were covered with a horny skin up to the time of his fall (Löw, l.c. xxi.).

[link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]


Why would anyone accept the Talmudic Ba'al religious texts as any authority?
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the same reason they did before!
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According to the Haggadah, Adam's hands—indeed, his whole body—were covered with a horny skin up to the time of his fall (Löw, l.c. xxi.).

[link to www.jewishencyclopedia.com]


Why would anyone accept the Talmudic Ba'al religious texts as any authority?


Why, or how could anyone accept the modern day bible that has been rewritten and so heavily edited and sugar coated as to have completely lost its original meanings!!
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goes both ways, all depends on belief doesn't it? some believe in baal and some the word of God which is Jesus Christ. Either/Or there is no middle.
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Why, or how could anyone accept the modern day bible that has been rewritten and so heavily edited and sugar coated as to have completely lost its original meanings!!
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Modern day Bible? I don't accept a translation of anything unless I have done my own comparison with the original text. Of course there are issues, but they aren't something that can't be overcome.

The Masoretic Text is suspect because of how Jewish Rabbis burned the paleo-Hebrew texts because they weren't "kosher". Luckily we have the Septuagint, Aramiaic texts, and the surviving paleo-Hebrew texts to compare it to (and they do differ considerably), but not in this area. The root word for Adam in the paleo-Hebrew language is the word for blood, the word itself means to show blood in the face.
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the modern understaning of the bible is wrong.
If one looks to the oldest peoples in recorded history they told the same stories thousands of years before the bible was put together (all the many stories)
Now the stories told by Sumeria or Babalon are the same with one twist: they wrote down that the Gods were among them and came down from above, they then created man with the term AD-AM. this was thousands of years before the writing down of the same story for the bible.
I believe it is a clear case of extra terestrial creationism.
The stories are a historical fact that anyone can read.
as far as the bible goes....well, once rome got involved it became bullshit for population control.
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sumerians......An and Ki then changed to enlil which was the wind and storm god that they believe made men. they believed they were made to serve their gods, the sun moon and stars (hosts of heaven) with sacrifices and offerings, they worked their stories of gods in axioms.
Anat=a virgin which was baal's sister, the queen of heaven mistress of the gods, also mary the mother of jesus of the catholic church.
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Re: Adam and Eve not the first humans, And what really happened in the Garden of Eden
You all have it wrong. The story of Adam and Eve is meant to illustrate that oral sex is considered false gratification and is judged a sin in the eyes of God. Allow me to enlighten thee.

The Apple represents the human sex organ. The Serpent represents the falsehood of sexual gratification through means other than for reproductive purposes.

The Apple, (Male penis, Female vagina) was not meant to be received orally because it produces false pleasure or the non-creation of offspring. False meaning sinful or non-reproductive is the devils way. The true creation of life pleases God therefore he allows you to experience his pleasure or orgasm.

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Re: Adam and Eve not the first humans, And what really happened in the Garden of Eden
You all have it wrong. The story of Adam and Eve is meant to illustrate that oral sex is considered false gratification and is judged a sin in the eyes of God. Allow me to enlighten thee.

The Apple represents the human sex organ. The Serpent represents the falsehood of sexual gratification through means other than for reproductive purposes.

The Apple, (Male penis, Female vagina) was not meant to be received orally because it produces false pleasure or the non-creation of offspring. False meaning sinful or non-reproductive is the devils way. The true creation of life pleases God therefore he allows you to experience his pleasure or orgasm.

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thanks for the enlightenment, now we all know about apples.
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Re: Adam and Eve not the first humans, And what really happened in the Garden of Eden
You all have it wrong. The story of Adam and Eve is meant to illustrate that oral sex is considered false gratification and is judged a sin in the eyes of God. Allow me to enlighten thee.

The Apple represents the human sex organ. The Serpent represents the falsehood of sexual gratification through means other than for reproductive purposes.

The Apple, (Male penis, Female vagina) was not meant to be received orally because it produces false pleasure or the non-creation of offspring. False meaning sinful or non-reproductive is the devils way. The true creation of life pleases God therefore he allows you to experience his pleasure or orgasm.

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Re: Adam and Eve not the first humans, And what really happened in the Garden of Eden
obviously since eve obeyed the serpent or was deceived, God was no longer her master, the serpent was because who you obey you serve, so her lord was then the serpent and she said I have "gotten" a man from the lord (master).


when cain went to the land of nod, was it called nod because they could not speak?
humans and apes (mingling seed) produced giants? hairy men?
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Gen 4:1 KJV And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

If you look at it in the Hebrew you will find the letters Yod Hey Vau Hey (YHVH, or IHVH) are there with the KJV translators have translated as LORD.

(I would post the Hebrew here but GLP doesn't do the Hebrew font sets.)

This is the self-same YHVH that speaks to Noah:

Gen 6:8 KJV But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

Gen 7:1 KJV And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

Again ' YHVH ' in the Hebrew there in Gen 6:8 and Gen 7:1. Hence the LORD of Eve is the same LORD of Noah. Further more this is the same LORD of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob/Israel.

In the New Testament it is claimed that Jesus worships the same God of Abraham, God of Issac, and God of Jacob, a.k.a this self-same LORD, ' YHVH '.

Gen 4:1 KJV And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

The language is clear both in the Hebrew and the English that Cain was Adam's flesh and blood and not the serpents.

Adam knew Eve sexually, Eve conceives from this sex act and then later bares the result from this sex act, Cain. Eve's statement is in effect a recognition that all life comes from God, from the LORD, aka, from YHVH. In fact by having sexual intercourse with her husband Adam, Eve was fullfilling the command given to both of them by the LORD ( YHVH) to be fruitful and multiply.

By this point in time Adam and Eve were already in the slow process of dying.

The Serpent's Seed is shown being introduced in Genesis 6:1, in the 'human bloodline', a long time after the conception of Cain, the first son of Adam and Eve.

Gen 6:1 KJV And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

When did this happen? When daughters were born unto men. this too is long after Cain's conception.

That the events of Genesis 6 might be somewhat plausible grounds for 'racism' is possible, depending on how long that 'sons of god' and daughters of men offspring were able to live and if these offspring were also able to reproduce. But it remains to the end of Genesis 6 only a possility that such offspring could reproduce. Even then it would not be technically called 'race' but rather 'species' as if an AlienET/Human hybrid, half Human, half Klingon for instance.

That is if one accepts 'the sons of god' as 'fallen angels' and not for instance as some do, 'the sons of Cain'.

Either way, Cain was a son of Adam... unless you feel you must corrupt the Hebrew texts. In which case do us all a favor and preach Stichin instead of the Bible.
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Re: Adam and Eve not the first humans, And what really happened in the Garden of Eden
You all have it wrong. The story of Adam and Eve is meant to illustrate that oral sex is considered false gratification and is judged a sin in the eyes of God. Allow me to enlighten thee.

The Apple represents the human sex organ. The Serpent represents the falsehood of sexual gratification through means other than for reproductive purposes.

The Apple, (Male penis, Female vagina) was not meant to be received orally because it produces false pleasure or the non-creation of offspring. False meaning sinful or non-reproductive is the devils way. The true creation of life pleases God therefore he allows you to experience his pleasure or orgasm.

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Sooooo show me where God told adam and eve to multiply and have sex and children, to reproduce? I see the male and female created first were told to, but adam and the bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh were not told to multiply and replenish or to reproduce. Mayber they had a different purpose?
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Re: Adam and Eve not the first humans, And what really happened in the Garden of Eden
obviously since eve obeyed the serpent or was deceived, God was no longer her master, the serpent was because who you obey you serve, so her lord was then the serpent and she said I have "gotten" a man from the lord (master).


when cain went to the land of nod, was it called nod because they could not speak?
humans and apes (mingling seed) produced giants? hairy men?

Gen 4:1 KJV And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

If you look at it in the Hebrew you will find the letters Yod Hey Vau Hey (YHVH, or IHVH) are there with the KJV translators have translated as LORD.

(I would post the Hebrew here but GLP doesn't do the Hebrew font sets.)

This is the self-same YHVH that speaks to Noah:

Gen 6:8 KJV But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

Gen 7:1 KJV And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.

Again ' YHVH ' in the Hebrew there in Gen 6:8 and Gen 7:1. Hence the LORD of Eve is the same LORD of Noah. Further more this is the same LORD of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob/Israel.

In the New Testament it is claimed that Jesus worships the same God of Abraham, God of Issac, and God of Jacob, a.k.a this self-same LORD, ' YHVH '.

Gen 4:1 KJV And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

The language is clear both in the Hebrew and the English that Cain was Adam's flesh and blood and not the serpents.

Adam knew Eve sexually, Eve conceives from this sex act and then later bares the result from this sex act, Cain. Eve's statement is in effect a recognition that all life comes from God, from the LORD, aka, from YHVH. In fact by having sexual intercourse with her husband Adam, Eve was fullfilling the command given to both of them by the LORD ( YHVH) to be fruitful and multiply.

By this point in time Adam and Eve were already in the slow process of dying.

The Serpent's Seed is shown being introduced in Genesis 6:1, in the 'human bloodline', a long time after the conception of Cain, the first son of Adam and Eve.

Gen 6:1 KJV And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

When did this happen? When daughters were born unto men. this too is long after Cain's conception.

That the events of Genesis 6 might be somewhat plausible grounds for 'racism' is possible, depending on how long that 'sons of god' and daughters of men offspring were able to live and if these offspring were also able to reproduce. But it remains to the end of Genesis 6 only a possility that such offspring could reproduce. Even then it would not be technically called 'race' but rather 'species' as if an AlienET/Human hybrid, half Human, half Klingon for instance.

That is if one accepts 'the sons of god' as 'fallen angels' and not for instance as some do, 'the sons of Cain'.

Either way, Cain was a son of Adam... unless you feel you must corrupt the Hebrew texts. In which case do us all a favor and preach Stichin instead of the Bible.
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stitchin has not even been proved as credible!
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Re: Adam and Eve not the first humans, And what really happened in the Garden of Eden
I do think there is something to this theory, but I reject the "white race" aspect of it.


Why is it then that the blacks and asians (isolated in the Far East and Africa) were never concerned or aware of the "traditions of Abraham" (ie, the religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam...which came from the descendants of Adam and Eve)...until just recently when white missionairies attempted to "convert" them?

Isn't that strong evidence that the black and asian races are not descended from Adam and Eve?
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