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Was Paul - aka Saul of Tarsus - a False Apostle?

 
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PHARISEE INFILTRATIOR SAUL/PAUL TAUGHT THAT THE LAW WAS A "CURSE" AND TO STOP LIVING BY THE LAW, AND A NEBULOUS "SALVATION OF GRACE THROUGH FAITH"




lol your really confused...1st you say that Paul was a "Pharisee infiltrator" then you claim that Paul was trying to destroy the Law...something the Pharisees and you evidently worship.

Paul preached Christ crucified and resurrected..the argument you are so weakly putting forth was settled by the Council of Jerusalem in the 1st century (Acts 15)


Just because your confused stop trying to confuse others with your lies..yes I called you a liar because if you call Paul a liar your also call Luke & Peter liars as well


Christ said he came to fulfill the Law, not to abolish it.

True & he did fulfill the Law

There is no salvation in the Law,salvation is a free gift that no man or woman can earn. So that no one can boast that he earned salvation that bought for us by Christ on the Cross

Those who oppose Paul also oppose Luke & Peter..over HALF of the NT

You quoted Christ above, so I shall now

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

His words won't pass away

You seem hung up on the transmission of the NT,that somehow its corrupted


Whats easier my friend,God raising a man form the dead or God preserving his WORD which btw he promised to do
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Close. I believe in Christ and his word... but knowing what we do about govt's, politics, religions, etc. I do not blindly trust that we have the full truth. In fact, our Creator said that we are not capable of understanding, and I am very wary of anyone who claims to understand/know it all.
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When it comes to Pauls letters I know he wrote some personal opinion and even admits as such. He also comes across as confused in a few places, like blaming Eve for sin in one letter then in Romans saying Adam was the one who sinned. He has problems with women teaching in churches, whereas in the Old Testament you had women who taught - even Anna the prophetess in the gospels who was in the temple prophesying. Then you have the infamous Romans chapter 7 - speaks for itself.
I am born again by the Holy Spirit through Jesus, not Paul.
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Exactly!
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I am not here to argue. In fact, YOU are hijacking an interesting thread with your rudeness which is quite annoying.



oh pooh pooh, why don't you cry some more?
As I said, if you can't handle what you dish out, don't serve it up.
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What did I do to insult you so badly? Did you have a bad day or something?

Cause frankly you're being a fucking dickhead and that makes me think you deserved whatever you got in the past.
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When it comes to Pauls letters I know he wrote some personal opinion and even admits as such. He also comes across as confused in a few places, like blaming Eve for sin in one letter then in Romans saying Adam was the one who sinned. He has problems with women teaching in churches, whereas in the Old Testament you had women who taught - even Anna the prophetess in the gospels who was in the temple prophesying. Then you have the infamous Romans chapter 7 - speaks for itself.
I am born again by the Holy Spirit through Jesus, not Paul.
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That is your opinion but have you considered that the reason Paul has a voice in the Bible is because Jesus Christ thought highly of Him.

That is why He is found throughout the Bible. You are right that we are saved through Jesus Christ only, but you must take into account that our Lord would not have placed Paul's voice in the Bible, if it was not for a reason.

It is by the WILL OF GOD that Paul is there.

Respect that.
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I'll bet Jesus talks to YOU EVERYDAY.
You think Jesus doesn't talk to people? :(
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Just not to that AC ;-)
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PHARISEE INFILTRATIOR SAUL/PAUL TAUGHT THAT THE LAW WAS A "CURSE" AND TO STOP LIVING BY THE LAW, AND A NEBULOUS "SALVATION OF GRACE THROUGH FAITH"




lol your really confused...1st you say that Paul was a "Pharisee infiltrator" then you claim that Paul was trying to destroy the Law...something the Pharisees and you evidently worship.

Paul preached Christ crucified and resurrected..the argument you are so weakly putting forth was settled by the Council of Jerusalem in the 1st century (Acts 15)


Just because your confused stop trying to confuse others with your lies..yes I called you a liar because if you call Paul a liar your also call Luke & Peter liars as well
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Yes, and if you were to 'get rid of Paul' then you would have to get rid of Peter, and Luke, and John Mark. And you would be left with somesystem that could very easily turn into a very great deal for the Christ rejecting Legalisms of not only the Law of Moses but also the emmense bondage and compliations of a ramp growth of law as per the Pharisees.

Oh, and if you get rid of Luke then you have to void Acts.

In other words you have gutted Christianity.
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When it comes to Pauls letters I know he wrote some personal opinion and even admits as such. He also comes across as confused in a few places, like blaming Eve for sin in one letter then in Romans saying Adam was the one who sinned. He has problems with women teaching in churches, whereas in the Old Testament you had women who taught - even Anna the prophetess in the gospels who was in the temple prophesying. Then you have the infamous Romans chapter 7 - speaks for itself.
I am born again by the Holy Spirit through Jesus, not Paul.



That is your opinion but have you considered that the reason Paul has a voice in the Bible is because Jesus Christ thought highly of Him.

That is why He is found throughout the Bible. You are right that we are saved through Jesus Christ only, but you must take into account that our Lord would not have placed Paul's voice in the Bible, if it was not for a reason.

It is by the WILL OF GOD that Paul is there.

Respect that.
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It is their opinion that they are born of the Holy Spirit and of Christ, and not Paul?
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I'll bet Jesus talks to YOU EVERYDAY.
You think Jesus doesn't talk to people? :(


Just not to that AC ;-)
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LOL.....good one! lol
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You are one of those people who WORSHIP A BOOK and not the CHRIST.



And I guess you worship Satan since Jesus clearly says anyone who is not for Christ is against Him.

So shall I call you a Satan worshipper then?

Clearly it sounds like you are defending Satan.

AND HOW STUPID IS THAT?



Think for yourself!

You're saying I worship Satan, because I said that Christ is more important than a book put together by men?

Like I said, you are worshiping an IDOL, a BOOK, and not the CHRIST.


I said your an idiot and a Satan worshipper because you deny the authority of Jesus Christ who enabled the book, THE BIBLE to be written with His word.


Again, you are worshiping a book, a physical, tangible item, and not Christ.

Christ and the Holy Spirit are the final authorities. Not a book.



It is because I worship Christ that I give testimony to The Bible, a book containing HIS WORD.

What of that don't you get exactly?

How the hell people like you escape the educaton facility is beyond me these days.

You do understand that knowledge and understanding is passed from one generation to another via WRITTEN knowledge?

What don't you understand that the believers of God, the Apostles and the various diciples all wrote down their experiences with Jesus Christ when He walked the earth and even wrote down what He said when He said it?

Its utterly amazing how stupid people are these days.


Jesus never said that there would be a book of His word and that the Roman Church would accurately determine which books, letters and testimony would be included and anyone who claims to be my apostle is telling the truth and so make sure that you obey and worship a book called the Bible even if it contradicts what I have taught you.

Cut it out with the insults, please. You are making yourself look stupid.



Why is it "getting" to you? Do you now feel how it feels when you use contempt against others? Are you getting enough of your own medicine?

Matthew 10: 26

"26"So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 27What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs."


No it's not. I frankly don't give a shit. But the grown ups are trying to talk now and you aren't allowed any more candy before dinner. Now go sit in the corner.
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Oh thats so cute, the little girl thinks she's a grown up.
Do you need a diaper change dear? Shall I continue with your lesson in humility?
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Should we blindly obey the government then? Saul/Paul says yes.






You see this prime example. Exactly what "evidence" is there against the Word of God?

By saying the Word of God isn't true aren't you directly challenging God?

Isn't this what Satan did?

And how STUPID is he?


You are one of those people who WORSHIP A BOOK and not the CHRIST.


"You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me, that you may have life." (John 5:39,40).



It is our heart, our actions, our love and our integrity that determines our sincerity... not how well we worship a book.



Yeah so you leave out Jesus Christ in that statement which is the only one that matters.

The fact of the matter is, The Bible is a testimony to Jesus Christ, which you obviously do not believe in, so you don't believe in Jesus Christ.

Your lip service comments are superbly annoying. Can you stop that please? I asked nicely :)
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If anyone is being annoying, it is you, with your trolling and lack of real conversation and thought.

You don't know anything about what I believe.

Your own NT says that we are known by the fruits of the Spirit which include kindness, gentleness, love, self-control, patience. These things are a sign of the love of our Creator, of a true follower of Christ.

If someone does NOT have love, kindness, gentleness, self-control, patience, etc., then I do not assume that they are a follower of Christ.
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Galatians 3:16

Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.
He saith not, And to seeds, as of many;
but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Galatians

3:26-29

For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ
Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there
is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female:
for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s,
then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the
promise.


The Judaizers hope to discredit Paul so they can throw
out much of the epistles....ESPECIALLY Galatians 3.

They insist that Israel is still the apple of God's eye,
the law must be followed.




Come to me all of you who are weary and burdened, and I
will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from
me for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find
rest for your souls.

For my yoke is EASY and my burden is LIGHT.

-The Lord Jesus
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I'll bet Jesus talks to YOU EVERYDAY.
You think Jesus doesn't talk to people? :(


Just not to that AC ;-)

LOL.....good one! lol
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hf
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It is by the WILL OF GOD that Paul is there.


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Most definitely. We are always "tested". It's why we come here for this is a "school".

I really don't want to get drawn in to this tired argument. But think about that....
Born into this World
We create echoes of our inward yearnings
And Shift along the Axis
From matter to Spirit
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Oh God, please forgive the people who fail to use their heads, who unthinkingly abuse your creation, and who have the audacity to declare what is or what is not your word. Please forgive me for trying to figure out your creation on my own, for I raise the ire of some of your most ardent supporters and lead them down the path of anger and hatred. Give me the grace to avoid calling people vile and puerile names and forgive those who do. Thank you for the ability to wonder at the wonderful things you have created and for my life.
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PHARISEE INFILTRATIOR SAUL/PAUL TAUGHT THAT THE LAW WAS A "CURSE" AND TO STOP LIVING BY THE LAW, AND A NEBULOUS "SALVATION OF GRACE THROUGH FAITH"




lol your really confused...1st you say that Paul was a "Pharisee infiltrator" then you claim that Paul was trying to destroy the Law...something the Pharisees and you evidently worship.

Paul preached Christ crucified and resurrected..the argument you are so weakly putting forth was settled by the Council of Jerusalem in the 1st century (Acts 15)


Just because your confused stop trying to confuse others with your lies..yes I called you a liar because if you call Paul a liar your also call Luke & Peter liars as well

Yes, and if you were to 'get rid of Paul' then you would have to get rid of Peter, and Luke, and John Mark. And you would be left with somesystem that could very easily turn into a very great deal for the Christ rejecting Legalisms of not only the Law of Moses but also the emmense bondage and compliations of a ramp growth of law as per the Pharisees.

Oh, and if you get rid of Luke then you have to void Acts.

In other words you have gutted Christianity.
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EXACTLY! Which is usually the point of those who bring this argument


They either don't like what Paul said or try to hang a burden on Christians ala legalism


There is LIBERTY in Christ that no man can take away...
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Oh thats so cute, the little girl thinks she's a grown up.
Do you need a diaper change dear? Shall I continue with your lesson in humility?
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If someone does NOT have love, kindness, gentleness, self-control, patience, etc., then I do not assume that they are a follower of Christ.
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Did Paul ever really even meet Jesus other than his "vision"?

Is there another witness's testimony written that can confirm the vision was authentic?
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PHARISEE INFILTRATIOR SAUL/PAUL TAUGHT THAT THE LAW WAS A "CURSE" AND TO STOP LIVING BY THE LAW, AND A NEBULOUS "SALVATION OF GRACE THROUGH FAITH"




lol your really confused...1st you say that Paul was a "Pharisee infiltrator" then you claim that Paul was trying to destroy the Law...something the Pharisees and you evidently worship.

Paul preached Christ crucified and resurrected..the argument you are so weakly putting forth was settled by the Council of Jerusalem in the 1st century (Acts 15)


Just because your confused stop trying to confuse others with your lies..yes I called you a liar because if you call Paul a liar your also call Luke & Peter liars as well


Christ said he came to fulfill the Law, not to abolish it.

True & he did fulfill the Law

There is no salvation in the Law,salvation is a free gift that no man or woman can earn. So that no one can boast that he earned salvation that bought for us by Christ on the Cross

Those who oppose Paul also oppose Luke & Peter..over HALF of the NT

You quoted Christ above, so I shall now

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

His words won't pass away

You seem hung up on the transmission of the NT,that somehow its corrupted


Whats easier my friend,God raising a man form the dead or God preserving his WORD which btw he promised to do


Close. I believe in Christ and his word... but knowing what we do about govt's, politics, religions, etc. I do not blindly trust that we have the full truth. In fact, our Creator said that we are not capable of understanding, and I am very wary of anyone who claims to understand/know it all.
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hahaha So you don't blindly trust and you don't believe in the Bible.

Then tell me smartass how do you find God without direction?
What pray tell do you hold as a standard to understand who Jesus Christ and God is if you REJECT THE BIBLE?
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I am not here to argue. In fact, YOU are hijacking an interesting thread with your rudeness which is quite annoying.



oh pooh pooh, why don't you cry some more?
As I said, if you can't handle what you dish out, don't serve it up.


What did I do to insult you so badly? Did you have a bad day or something?

Cause frankly you're being a fucking dickhead and that makes me think you deserved whatever you got in the past.
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oh and what did I get in the past? Now you've stooped to cursing people. That's pretty low. How low can you get?
Shall we find out?
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Oh God, please forgive the people who fail to use their heads, who unthinkingly abuse your creation, and who have the audacity to declare what is or what is not your word. Please forgive me for trying to figure out your creation on my own, for I raise the ire of some of your most ardent supporters and lead them down the path of anger and hatred. Give me the grace to avoid calling people vile and puerile names and forgive those who do. Thank you for the ability to wonder at the wonderful things you have created and for my life.
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hf

Beautiful.
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I am not here to argue. In fact, YOU are hijacking an interesting thread with your rudeness which is quite annoying.



oh pooh pooh, why don't you cry some more?
As I said, if you can't handle what you dish out, don't serve it up.


What did I do to insult you so badly? Did you have a bad day or something?

Cause frankly you're being a fucking dickhead and that makes me think you deserved whatever you got in the past.



oh and what did I get in the past? Now you've stooped to cursing people. That's pretty low. How low can you get?
Shall we find out?
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Are you threatening me?
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I'll bet Jesus talks to YOU EVERYDAY.
You think Jesus doesn't talk to people? :(


Just not to that AC ;-)
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I c the little princess is now an authority on who Jesus Christ talks to.

My my is she putting herself on a high pedestal.
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Is there another witness's testimony written that can confirm the vision was authentic?
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No.
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I c the little princess is now an authority on who Jesus Christ talks to.

My my is she putting herself on a high pedestal.
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If someone does NOT have love, kindness, gentleness, self-control, patience, etc., then I do not assume that they are a follower of Christ.
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Did Paul ever really even meet Jesus other than his "vision"?

Is there another witness's testimony written that can confirm the vision was authentic?
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Before he had the vision, he stoned Christians to death.

After he had the vision, he dedicated his life to delivering the message of Yeshua.

Chances are his vision was more "authentic" then anything the pope has ever seen or done.
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When it comes to Pauls letters I know he wrote some personal opinion and even admits as such. He also comes across as confused in a few places, like blaming Eve for sin in one letter then in Romans saying Adam was the one who sinned. He has problems with women teaching in churches, whereas in the Old Testament you had women who taught - even Anna the prophetess in the gospels who was in the temple prophesying. Then you have the infamous Romans chapter 7 - speaks for itself.
I am born again by the Holy Spirit through Jesus, not Paul.



That is your opinion but have you considered that the reason Paul has a voice in the Bible is because Jesus Christ thought highly of Him.

That is why He is found throughout the Bible. You are right that we are saved through Jesus Christ only, but you must take into account that our Lord would not have placed Paul's voice in the Bible, if it was not for a reason.

It is by the WILL OF GOD that Paul is there.

Respect that.


It is their opinion that they are born of the Holy Spirit and of Christ, and not Paul?
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Please speak in coherent thoughts, its hard enough to piece together your insane ramblings as it is.

You know write in full sentences and paragraphs yes?
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Close. I believe in Christ and his word... but knowing what we do about govt's, politics, religions, etc. I do not blindly trust that we have the full truth. In fact, our Creator said that we are not capable of understanding, and I am very wary of anyone who claims to understand/know it all.



hahaha So you don't blindly trust and you don't believe in the Bible.

Then tell me smartass how do you find God without direction?
What pray tell do you hold as a standard to understand who Jesus Christ and God is if you REJECT THE BIBLE?
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I never said I rejected the Bible. We are talking about Paul in particular.

Psalm 19:1-6

“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun. Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it; and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof”.


If someone does NOT have love, kindness, gentleness, self-control, patience, etc., then I do not assume that they are a follower of Christ.
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Did Paul ever really even meet Jesus other than his "vision"?

Is there another witness's testimony written that can confirm the vision was authentic?
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Paul did meet Jesus......unfortunately, Paul wasn't the genuine article that he pretended to be! :(
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Should we blindly obey the government then? Saul/Paul says yes.






You see this prime example. Exactly what "evidence" is there against the Word of God?

By saying the Word of God isn't true aren't you directly challenging God?

Isn't this what Satan did?

And how STUPID is he?


You are one of those people who WORSHIP A BOOK and not the CHRIST.


"You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me, that you may have life." (John 5:39,40).



It is our heart, our actions, our love and our integrity that determines our sincerity... not how well we worship a book.



Yeah so you leave out Jesus Christ in that statement which is the only one that matters.

The fact of the matter is, The Bible is a testimony to Jesus Christ, which you obviously do not believe in, so you don't believe in Jesus Christ.

Your lip service comments are superbly annoying. Can you stop that please? I asked nicely :)


If anyone is being annoying, it is you, with your trolling and lack of real conversation and thought.

You don't know anything about what I believe.

Your own NT says that we are known by the fruits of the Spirit which include kindness, gentleness, love, self-control, patience. These things are a sign of the love of our Creator, of a true follower of Christ.

If someone does NOT have love, kindness, gentleness, self-control, patience, etc., then I do not assume that they are a follower of Christ.
 Quoting: Riker



Oh my we have a REVELATION. That's exactly right my dear, I and no one on this thread knows what you believe in because you've rejected the Bible and though you profess that you believe in Jesus, you don't exactly say how?

So far you've only told us what YOU believe in your made up little world about who Jesus is.

So how much of your actual believe in "made up" from you psychopathic ideas?
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Re: Was Paul - aka Saul of Tarsus - a False Apostle?
Before he had the vision, he stoned Christians to death.

After he had the vision, he dedicated his life to delivering the message of Yeshua.

Chances are his vision was more "authentic" then anything the pope has ever seen or done.
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This is the image that the writers of the bible would have you believe........but it's very far from the truth!

Your first sentence, is actually more accurate to the nature of the kind of man Paul was! "Murderer of Christians" :(





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