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enki2012 User ID: 2081064 United States 03/31/2012 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitchin met with Vatican officials many times and after such a meating to discuss his translation & the influence the Anunnaki the Vatican awarded him. Which only means they agreed with his ideas. It sort of makes sense when you then find out the Vatican has spent MILLIONS on telescopes.. The Vatican has always known the truth, they just wanted to know how much Sitchin knew.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13303574 United States 03/31/2012 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Much of the information the Sumerians relied on, beside what the gods told them face to face was the teachings that came out from Ea's secret society, The Brotherhood of the Snake (or The Brotherhood of the Serpent). This first secret society on Earth is the father of all secret societies that followed, and albeit we may not always know what the secrets are at the top of organizations such as Freemasonry, the OTO, the Rosicrucian's, etc., we can assume that most of them have to do with the ancient gods, their knowledge in magic and the structure of the Universe (as they knew it), and the return of the gods. The information has been passed down through all these generations. Quoting: Sitchin Debunkers are WRONG! 12842476 I think you need to look more deeply into this assumption, as there is a LOT more there than meets the eye. The existing familial and belief-system conflict between Enki(Ea) and his half-brother Enlil turned into an outright war over Enlil's abject loathing and abuse of humans. The foundation, however, is in the concept of God-consciousness, something that Enlil's "true blood" Anunaki did everything they could to destroy in themselves as having a conscience in any form was considered a weakness. If you look at the world and who gets ahead, largely those are people who have set aside conscience and stopping to think through the long-term consequences of their actions in favor of getting ahead at every turn, and staying ahead of the destruction they leave in their wake (leaving it to mess up others). That is the Enlilite way it was taught to his hybrid overseers, from whom in turn it was picked up by some humans. When the Anunaki (note my spelling is deliberately different, find my other thread for an explanation if you care) left Earth, they did not do so willingly, and left behind them a secret cabal of hybrids and upper level human overseers who became the modern day secret societies, most notably the Illuminati and related groups that I collectively refer to as "the Powers That Pretend" (not "be" as that is a function of IAM or God-consciousness and can be derived only from Creator Source...these folks have nothing to do with IAM). This all occurred long after Enki was exiled from Anunaki society after having been set up and falsely accused by Enlil (this came out later and Enlil also was exiled, but too late to save the Anunaki mission on Earth). Enki did leave knowledge and other resources with humankind, whom he has rescued on several occasions. The concept of "serpent" has been twisted deliberately by the Enlilites into "devil" - Enlil hated anyone who was not 100% pure bloodline Anunaki, and Enki's mother was from the "snake people" - I believe these are the Naga in Indian mythology. The snake symbol, or caduceus is not a snake at all, it is DNA! Enki's primary resource for humankind is *genetic* and is currently in the process of unmethylating and unfolding ("awakening") in humans with sufficiently concentrations of the necessary genetic material (a few with higher concentrations are fully "awake" now). Long story short: if you want to become fully what Creator Source intended when that spirit came into Enki's laboratory and made the miracle of God-consciousness arise in humankind (thus scaring the bull-excreta out of the "Bull of Heaven" Enlil and his non-God-conscious cohorts), you will consider your next milestone to be Sovereignty, which implies that there are no "gods" in the religious sense, and no intermediaries between humankind and Creator Source (who will never, ever manifest in person, offspring, or avatar). The hallmarks of Sovereignty is not bowing down to anyone else, not expecting anyone else to give you a handout (hear that, entitlement class? your bailout check is *not* in the mail!), and taking full responsibility for your actions. Thus when something/someone manifests on this planet and offers to solve all of your problems, they are only here to enslave you. BTW, Anunaki are known in writing primarily by their titles. Only a few of the Anunaki's personal names are recorded. Ea is one whose personal name is in the record, because he knew secrecy and pretending to be gods was a really bad idea, that Creator Source wouldn't like it at all and would sort it out one day, and he didn't want to be part of the fraud perpetrated against a species touched by Creator Source. Compare that to the images that arise from the quote that began this response. The truth always comes out. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13234840 United States 04/07/2012 01:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anunnaki Paper #5: Quoting: Sitchin Debunkers are WRONG! 12842476 Discussing the Anunnaki Papers by Wes Penre, Sunday, April 24, 2011 1. Abstract Before you start reading this paper, you either need to know Zecharia Sitchin's work pretty well already, or have studied my previous Anunnaki Papers #1-4. If not, this paper will not make much sense, because the discussion herein is mainly about conclusions, questions, and comments around Sitchin's work, and the significance of the Anunnaki influence on our human past, present and future. So, if you haven't studied this subject previously, I strongly suggest you get familiar with it before you continue any further. 2. The Accuracy of the Sumerian Cuneiform Clay Tablets The first thing we need to understand when we read Sitchin's work is that he translated the Sumerian tablets into modern language, drew his conclusions and found the coherency in it. That's all he could do. The tablets were written some 5-6000 years ago, by the end of the era of the Anunnaki's 450,000 years reign, or more, on Earth. The Sumerians were able to write down what was happening to them in their own lifetime and perhaps a few generations back and still get it fairly accurate, but anything that goes further back than that is hearsay. In other words, whatever happened before that was told to them by the Anunnaki themselves. It means that it could be altered to fit the gods. After all, they wanted to make sure that humans respected them and followed their orders. Some of the tablets could also have been written by them, or human scribes, with the intention to mislead. Anything is possible here, so please keep your mind very open when you continue reading: Figure 1: A Sumerian Clay Tablet Much of the information the Sumerians relied on, beside what the gods told them face to face was the teachings that came out from Ea's secret society, The Brotherhood of the Snake (or The Brotherhood of the Serpent). This first secret society on Earth is the father of all secret societies that followed, and albeit we may not always know what the secrets are at the top of organizations such as Freemasonry, the OTO, the Rosicrucian's, etc., we can assume that most of them have to do with the ancient gods, their knowledge in magic and the structure of the Universe (as they knew it), and the return of the gods. The information has been passed down through all these generations. There is way too much evidence in Sitchin's, and other similar researcher's work to discard them. Other such researchers that should be mentioned are, William Bramley, Erich von Däniken, Robert Morning Sky, Andrew Thomas, Maurice Chatelain, Harold T. Wilkins, Peter Kolosimo, Serge Hutin, W. Raymond Drake, and Jacques Vallee. Albeit, Sitchin has his debunkers, such as Mike Heiser[1]; at the end of the day, Sitchin still holds water. Some of what Sitchin claimed happened in the past has been verified by modern archeologists. Besides, they also correspond, and build upon, other ancient, sacred scriptures, including the Bible. His work is also backed up by most metaphysical sources, through channeling and by other means. However, the Sumerian Scriptures are telling only parts of the story, and are concentrating on certain areas of the planet, such as Mesopotamia, Egypt, South America, South Africa, Babylon etc. And like we mentioned earlier, it's all from the Anunnaki's perspective. Another reason to give credit to Sitchin's work is because the gods are still here, and those from the home planet (Nibiru) are returning on their 3,600 years cycle, approximately around 2060-2095. More about that later. I have already mentioned the LPG-C being in direct contact with the Nibiruans, but they are not the only ones. There are more people who have had face-to-face (Close Encounter of the 5th kind) with these beings, something we are also going to cover in depth later on. Figure 2: Orphan Planet Another question readers may have whether it's possible for planets to float around in space, like Nibiru did, before they are caught up by the gravity from a star system, please read this article from NASA: [link to science.nasa.gov] 3. Dr. Michael Heiser, Sitchin's Main Debunker Figure 3: Fr. Michael Heiser Just about everyone who is bringing some significant information out to the public have their debunkers. So also Sitchin, of course. The most "famous" of these debunker is perhaps Dr. Michael Heiser at [link to sitchiniswrong.com.] He has dedicated a whole website to debunk Sitchin and is also traveling around, holding lectures on this subject and others. Dr. Heiser is a linguist and claims that Sitchin's translations of the Sumerian cuneiform tablets are utterly wrong. Nowhere, says Heiser, is there any indication that the old Sumerians were talking about a 12th Planet or an alien race. He says that he is an expert in this language and knows what he is talking about. Of course, someone who doesn't speak the old Sumerian language can't verify whether he's correct or not, even when he's showing his "evidence". I'm not going to spend much time explaining what Dr. Heiser is talking about; you can check it out on his website if you like. One thing he claims is that Sitchin has made it all up like some kind of science-fiction novel. This is of course not true, and often Heiser doesn't seem to know what he's talking about at worst, or he was not a linguist at all and made wild guesses and put a story together that "seemed to fit" without any credible evidence. When met with criticism, he often gets quite upset and is not convincingly managing to hold his position. There are NASA videos of the incoming planet; it was in the newspapers in the early 1980s, and as I said, the Anunnaki are even walking among us, seen and encountered by many credible people, including LPG-C. In addition, we have a wealth of channeled information talking about this stuff. Speaking of LPG-C; when Dr. Bordon became aware of Dr. Heiser's debunking attempts, he emailed him the following response as a comment to Heiser's research. Heiser, of course, never replied: EMAIL TO MIKE HEISER 16 May 2011 Good afternoon, Mike. Just visited your blog (The Naked Bible/Eschatology [link to michaelsheiser.com] Took the time to read everything you have here, on your other site, The Facade, and borrowed a copy of your dissertation which I also carefully and thoughtfully read. After some careful consideration of what Sitchin said and did (and the “scholarship” with which he treated us through his Earth Chronicles) and the rebuttals you regaled us all in your websites which you so ably established sound basis in your dissertation, I came to realize two things: (1) the Nibiru phenomenon is that, a phenomenon that has become quite a meme in our culture as your stance and the people sharing their views and feelings on your sites indicate; indeed, throughout the world, and (2) the scholarship that supports or denies the reality of the phenomenon is Biblical and sumero-egyptologic – a fact that makes both sides (yours and Sitchin’s) open to claims that both are based upon (a) an interpretation of the historical record, (b) a matter of expertise in ancient near eastern languages, and (c) conclusions, being what they are (hypothetical written “pictures” or models of a phenomenon), can be again highly interpretive of the records treated as data supporting a view through the prism used by the interpreter: Sitchin says “it is,” and you say “it isn’t.” But the story does not end there. There is, as they say, a “door number 3.” This door is the one through which, wittingly or unwittingly, willingly or forced by circumstances, I am walking into this phenomenon. This is the door opened by experiencers who have come in contact with so-called Annunakis. In my case, it occurred when I was ten or eleven in South America, on the Parana River between Brazil and Paraguay, while fishing with my father northeast of Encarnacion, Paraguay. He and I were “picked up” by a triangular six-man craft and, while my father was kept sedated via interesting nonbiomedical means, I was not. This was the first of three encounters with the same individual who lead the first group on the Parana, and have since assisted the small scientific cooperative that LPG-C has been since the early ’90s with very advanced scientific information and the technology with which to get our own by the same, or similar means, they have for apparent eaons. They called it the “brilliance,” according to Sitchin; we were more mundane in the naming, referring to it as simply “the tank.” We’ve been at it since 1998, when the first of two prototypes were completed, tested, and much to our amazement, found it to work exceeding all of our expectations. The results have been cumuli of information about how nature is and how nature works, from the infinite to the infinitesimal, and presented in some detail and with an historical sense of order on our new and improved website at [link to www.lifephysicsgroup.org.] To wit: we are in process of miniaturizing the key aspects of this apparatus, such that it could be used by qualified scientists wishing to explore the same Nature we did. Oh, the surprises that await them. And we are not the only experiencers of these who call themselves Sa.a.mi. and you and Sitchin know as Annunaki and fit the bill in appearance for the ancient Annunaki and/or Nephilim (the latter seeming human-Annunaki hybrids). There are others, and there are also others who are quietly pursuing face-to-face benevolent contact with “giants” in several places (South America, southern Africa, and the Mideast). In a larger context, there is also an exopolitical framework which is impinged upon by the past (and which is the reason we now all need not scholarship proving one view or another, but rather a model of what we as humans face today and must literally face within 50 to 70 years from now). Whether or not Nibiru is a star or a planet or a comet, all of that is splitting hair. The IRAS pictures did not lie, and the current South Pole Telescope data is showing the incoming as being quite real, and incidentally, proving Jim McCanney’s contentions out to be more certain that any fiction I could write (and have written) about. No, Mike, this is not fable, and it is not prehistory. Let me close this unexpectedly longer note than I intended by simply asking (1) whether or not you’ve ever experienced a face to face presence with one of these creatures, and (2) what would you do if you could? Kind regards, A.R. BORDON Bordon also posted a slight variant of the above email on the same date, May 16, 2011, in Heiser's comment section. Bordon sent this in 2001 and is still waiting for a response: [link to michaelsheiser.com] Source - [link to wespenre.com] Sumerians and the Anunnaki. Presentation By Zecharia Sitchin (FULL) |
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enki2012 User ID: 5132400 United States 05/09/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being raised by Lutheran parents & forced to attend church, bible study & confirmation classes left me with more questions than answers. After reading all of Sitchin's books & finding out that the biblical story of Noah & the great flood was taken from the thousands of years older Sumerian clay tables & how the Anunnaki's Enki told Ziasudra the great secret that a great flood was coming and to build a great ship so that he, his family & animals species can survive. Reading Sitchin's work opened my eye's and then the questions were answered. The great flood was due to Nibiru's approach which is every 3,600 years. The Earth see's violent disturbances as does our Sun (huge solar flares) On Earth, Enki’s son Nergal reported from the south tip of Africa that the Antarctic ice sheet slid toward the ocean and would, next approach of Nibiru, slip into the sea and generate waves that would engulf most of Earth. This was the origin of the Noah story. The great flood did happen. Giant sea shells were found onto of the Andes in Peru, 2 miles above sea level-> [link to dir.groups.yahoo.com] Sea shells were also found on top of Mt. Everest. The government & organized religion have to hide the truth as they've fed this lie too long. |
enki2012 User ID: 15450819 United States 05/09/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sitchin met with Vatican officials many times and after such a meating to discuss his translation & the influence the Anunnaki the Vatican awarded him. Which only means they agreed with his ideas. It sort of makes sense when you then find out the Vatican has spent MILLIONS on telescopes.. The Vatican has always known the truth, they just wanted to know how much Sitchin knew.. Quoting: enki2012 He worked for the Vatican spreading this disinfo. Sitchin was Jewish and did not work for or with the Vatican |
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