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thetrickybigguy User ID: 25059474 United States 10/06/2012 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I apologize if it has already been brought up but I found it pretty disturbing and am interested on others thoughts/opinions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25041608 [link to www.miamiherald.com] bath salts!! Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poloi' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~ “When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.” If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Winston Churchill |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 25041608 United States 10/06/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I apologize if it has already been brought up but I found it pretty disturbing and am interested on others thoughts/opinions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25041608 [link to www.miamiherald.com] bath salts!! Could be, but its also on [link to abcnews.go.com] and isn't written like the aforementioned zombie article. I'll try and look for some more citations. |
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The Governor User ID: 25061971 United States 10/06/2012 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because clothed stabbings are so 20th century. |
BRIEF User ID: 24771157 United States 10/06/2012 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't even count the number of times I went running around outside naked... I never learned how to count to zero... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Captain Spaulding User ID: 24590107 United States 10/06/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance. Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one. In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud! |
BRIEF User ID: 24771157 United States 10/06/2012 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience... Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107 I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance. Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one. In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud! Nonlethal weapons don't work on people jacked up on PCP... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23579473 United States 10/06/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience... Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107 I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance. Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one. In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud! Thanks for sharing your story. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15680976 United States 10/06/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience... Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107 I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance. Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one. In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud! Nonlethal weapons don't work on people jacked up on PCP... Hey look Briefs either lying or being an idiot again. What a shocker |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25090380 United States 10/06/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience... Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107 I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance. Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one. In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud! Nonlethal weapons don't work on people jacked up on PCP... So you jump right to murder as the optimum option. |
BRIEF User ID: 24771157 United States 10/06/2012 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience... Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107 I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance. Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one. In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud! Nonlethal weapons don't work on people jacked up on PCP... So you jump right to murder as the optimum option. Killing a crazy is not murder... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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BRIEF User ID: 24771157 United States 10/06/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They seem to shoot everything except for themselves these days. Quoting: 0pEnLy~Gr@y Maybe Cop to Cop shooting will become their latest addition to the menu in coming weeks. If a cop strips naked and acts the fool and being violent I'd expect the same reaction... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25094227 United States 10/06/2012 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in NO WAY defending what the cop did. No. Not at all. I just have ONE thing to say, from experience... Quoting: Captain Spaulding 24590107 I was an EMT 1A ("A" means I was certified to drive and ambulance) in Los Angeles for about a year and a half in the early 90's (I found it wasn't for me, long boring story). In training we were told to NEVER approach a naked person acting erratically. The reason being PCP (angel dust or whatever the crap is) for some reason makes people lose it and want to strip naked and they can be unpredictably violent, and we should wait for the police to deal with them first. Follow them, but keep our distance. Luckily I never had to. But I'm thinking the cop might have had that information in the back of his (maybe paranoid) mind and freaked out and made the wrong decision. Which obviously, in their business, should not be tolerated. Tazers work great. Pepper spray works great. Calling for backup works great. he screwed up. Somebody might've dosed the kid up at a party. The article said he was trying to get IN to the police station. Not running away from one. In the job I had before the EMT work I tackled a guy on some kind of drugs who tried to run down, in his car, my co-workers one night (at the Pasadena courthouse) by myself, and then several others jumped in to hold him. The jerk was as strong as a linebacker and I got messed up tackling him and rolling up and down the stairs of the place wrestling him. He even bit a hole in my side. The police showed up, got out of their car and CASUALLY walked over, and while we all held the guys arms, put the handcuffs on him. Of course the paper the next day said "Police give pursuit and apprehend man on angel dust... etc" POLICE "gave pursuit and apprehended"? The reporters interviewed me in detail while the paramedics were cleaning my wounds. Trust police OR news reporters for the truth? Why? I'm just glad he had his clothes on. I can just see a picture of me on the front page wrestling with a drugged up naked guy. Wouldn't THAT make my Mom proud! I appreciate your insight and agree. Like you said, there are less-than-lethal means at an officers disposal. Here's a different account of the incident from a post on CBS. From how this read, the officer never attempted to use less-than-lethal force. If the officer was aware of how naked erratic people act (as you suggest), shouldn't they be aware that diplomacy will likely fail? It just sucks to see people die like this. I mean a leg-shot or something. "At 1:23 a.m. on Saturday, Oct. 6, University of South Alabama Police responded to a loud banging noise on the west side window of the police station. When an officer exited the station to investigate, he was confronted by a muscular, nude man who was acting erratically. The man repeatedly rushed and verbally challenged the officer in a fighting stance. The officer with weapon drawn ordered the individual to halt. The officer retreated numerous times in an attempt to calm the situation. The individual continued to press toward the officer in a threatening manner. The assailant kneeled for a moment, and then he rose again, rushing and chasing the officer, who continued to retreat away from the building. When the individual continued to rush toward the officer in a threatening manner and ignored the officer's repeated commands to stop, the officer fired one shot with his police sidearm, which struck the chest of the assailant. The individual fell to the ground, but he got up once more and continued to challenge the officer further before collapsing and expiring. The deceased has been identified as Gilbert Thomas Collar, an 18-year-old freshman from Wetumpka, Ala. Immediately after the incident, the USA Police Department contacted the District Attorney's Office to request an external investigation. Mobile County Sheriff's Department will assist. The officer has been placed on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of internal and external reviews. The University extends its condolences to Mr. Collar's family." |
0pEnLy~Gr@y User ID: 24442987 Australia 10/06/2012 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They seem to shoot everything except for themselves these days. Quoting: 0pEnLy~Gr@y Maybe Cop to Cop shooting will become their latest addition to the menu in coming weeks. If a cop strips naked and acts the fool and being violent I'd expect the same reaction... Now wouldn't that be something special! ~Gr@y Believer~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25094683 United States 10/06/2012 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obviously when a person is running around in public nude he's in his right mind and not being violent or anything...derp Quoting: BRIEF Sigh. The police need more training in hand to hand combat. They also need to learn to shoot to disable.....whenever appropriate. An appropriate move for a naked kid would definitely be disable. |
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BRIEF User ID: 24771157 United States 10/06/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First off, Brief, you need to shut the fuck up because your a complete ignoramus. Secondly, the copy easily could have just shot at his legs instead of instinctually firing a lethal shot at the person's chest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24931978 Maybe he could have fired a warning shot like in the movies! Last Edited by BRIEF on 10/06/2012 09:16 PM I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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