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GAME OVER! Merkel: There Is "No Possibility" Of Bailing Out Greece

 
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GAME OVER! Merkel: There Is "No Possibility" Of Bailing Out Greece
Merkel: There Is "No Possibility" Of Bailing Out Greece

Joe Weisenthal | Feb. 28, 2010, 8:00 PM

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

As Europe begins what's sure to be a very hectic week, the volume of conflicting statements about the Greek bailout is truly stunning.


There have been multiple reports of some kind of deal worth $30-$34 billion, and yet check out what Germany's Angela Merkel told German TV, according to the Sydney Morning Herald:

...the German chancellor denied any such plan was in the works, saying "there is absolutely no question of it".

"We have a (European) treaty under which there is no possibility of paying to bail out states in difficulty," Merkel told ARD public television.

Well, actually German will help a little:

"Right now we can help Greece by stating clearly that it has to fulfil its duties," said Merkel, adding that Greece had to "show great courage" in order to resorb its deficits and restore its "lost credibility".

Thanks a lot!
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Greece, I love your country! Kick the blood suckers out!

Focus your eyes on Iceland at this time. Kick the blood suckers out!
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Greece -- Cash On Hand: in forum [Rumors]:

[link to tickerforum.org]

Aynrandfan:

Word is that the Greek gov't is now down to about 3 weeks worth of cash-on-hand to fund it's operations; you might see this over at Mish's site or Zero Hedge over the next day or two.

The Greek government is already planning on "orderly shutdowns" of "non-essential" parts of the government if it can't arrange for anything beyond that point.

3 weeks, folks.

That's all they've got.
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If anybody actually believed her, stocks would be tanking right now. They're not.

IBs, SWFs and Hedge funds play up these 'crises' (often causing them to begin with) so they can drive up bond yields and make even more money. Nobody wants .25-.75% returns anymore.

Greece's debt-to-GDP is nothing compared to Italy or the UK but they made an easy target for speculative attack.

The UK is next though - they're weak due to an upcoming election.

Canada will be a target too, if an election is called (which will happen if the next budget fails to go through parliament) and the Liberals or NDP score to high in the polls.
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Well, actually German will help a little:

"Right now we can help Greece by stating clearly that it has to fulfil its duties," said Merkel, adding that Greece had to "show great courage" in order to resorb its deficits and restore its "lost credibility".

Thanks a lot!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 862727

LOL, that´ll help a lot. Best thing they could do is paying nothing and letting EU die!
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Well, actually German will help a little:

"Right now we can help Greece by stating clearly that it has to fulfil its duties," said Merkel, adding that Greece had to "show great courage" in order to resorb its deficits and restore its "lost credibility".

Thanks a lot!

LOL, that´ll help a lot. Best thing they could do is paying nothing and letting EU die!
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Yep. Let`s hope that`s what`s gonna happen, although i really doubt it
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How much of this political rhetoric is just hot air to calm attempt to stop other nations thinking they can spend spend spend at other countries' expense?

Seems to me that the back-channels will be busy with deal maiking while the news channels are full of the the jingoistic bollocks to keep that countries voters happy.

Let's face it, evry country is in the sh1t thanks to all politicians giving away our money to the banksters.

rant over. just my 2 $ worth.
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If anybody actually believed her, stocks would be tanking right now. They're not.
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The FTSE is well off where it opened.
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let them coin their own money. im sure they must have some precious metals in their ground. Provides jobs to dig it up and coin it, and creates money with intrinsic value at the same time...

oh no but they must have rothschild euros, fake money created out of thin air. its that or nothing in the NWO.
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Where are the markets now? Any numbers? Link? Are they positive?
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Where are the markets now? Any numbers? Link? Are they positive?
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Markets globally are green.

Sweet, lovely green $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Nothing to see here.
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the money makers still play their games

get into precious metals soon
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."
- Frédéric Bastiat

food, water, ammo, weapons, battery back up solar, hand well pump, wood stove and 1 year of food...oh yeah PM's too...good luck
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well it seems the sentiment has changed, france and germany are working on a bailout plan for greece.
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A weak EURO is good for Europe! It makes their product cheaper in the rest of the world.
Big European companies have been begging for a weaker Euro ... Do you really think that an economy like Greece that is only 2.5% of the total economic power of the EU is able to bring the whole lot down?
Jesus, we here in the States are dealing with a couple of near bankrupt states too, and take CA, they are a huge % of our total economic might.

Nothing but stirring the shit to get our $ more expensive and their EURO cheaper.
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well it seems the sentiment has changed, france and germany are working on a bailout plan for greece.
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bait for U.S$
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Who lent Greece it's money, Old Man Saxe.
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Re: GAME OVER! Merkel: There Is "No Possibility" Of Bailing Out Greece
US TO THE RESCUE I'M SHURE
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The Greek government is trying to find ways to keep money in their treasury. They've cut the VAT refund to export companies and this implies a stupid short term solution to keep money to the government treasury but at the same time they cut the income for these companies and for the Greek economy
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US TO THE RESCUE I'M SHURE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 899556


What with? some more IOUs we can't cover?

Our debt and outstanding financial obligations make Greece's problem seem like a joke.

We're still around because China and Japan keep buying our treasury bonds.
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No, actually they cannot do that. It is not permitted since Greece is in the Eurozone. I believe there will be the a bankruptcy that might bring other things amongst civil unrest. There are a lot of illegal immigrants that survive and send money back to their countries because they work for private companies that do infrastructure works (like building roads etc) for the government, so when there will be no money, they might turn against Greece and Greek natives
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What with? some more IOUs we can't cover?

Our debt and outstanding financial obligations make Greece's problem seem like a joke.

We're still around because China and Japan keep buying our treasury bonds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 903996


Are you sure? I thought the Fed were buying them.
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Where are the markets now? Any numbers? Link? Are they positive?


Markets globally are green.

Sweet, lovely green $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Nothing to see here.
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you're a fucking moron
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If anybody actually believed her, stocks would be tanking right now. They're not.


The FTSE is well off where it opened.
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UK has it's own problems and is next in line for a speculative attack (already happening, actually - polls showed the Tories were weaker than expected).

The DAX is well up.
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By the way, John Paulson of the Paulson Hedge Funds, one of the persons that orchestrated the attack on the Greek economy has put a bet of $4 bn that Greece will get bankrupt. Do you believe that anyone would like to disappoint such a bankster?
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greece' economy is really nothing in comparison to funktioning states.

It is a holiday economy where hardly anything is made or produced... except oliveoil maybe.

Dont get your hopes up too high about a country like that destroying the EU or the euro.

It is just like one of the states in the USA is on the verge of defaulting... Hey, isnt that exactly what is happening ??? But i think in the case of the USA it is way more than one state!!

So you europe haters can bend over and take it up the ass when the dust settles and we continue to weaken the dollar.

Cheers!





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