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KimmieAnnaJones (OP) User ID: 772688 United States 03/19/2010 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.worldtribune.com] "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
KimmieAnnaJones (OP) User ID: 772688 United States 03/19/2010 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is just nothing shocking anymore.... "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 752680 United States 03/19/2010 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why wait and release info about moving the bombs then a few days later say oh ya, they were headed for Israel but we stopped them. I do have the distinct feeling that TPTB are trying to persuade the countries around Israel to attack because they think the US will stay out of it. Great way to get a war without technically starting it, lull your enemy into a false sense of security and when they think they are in the clear ATTACK. Isnt that what Bush Sr. did with Iraq, let Saddam think he could invade Kuwait and we would let him? |
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planetbarb User ID: 917296 United States 03/19/2010 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WASHINGTON — The United States Quoting: KimmieAnnaJoneshas diverted a shipment of bunker-busters designated for Israel. Officials said the U.S. military was ordered to divert a shipment of smart bunker-buster bombs from Israel to a military base in Diego Garcia. They said the shipment of 387 smart munitions had been slated to join pre-positioned U.S. military equipment in Israel Air Force bases. "This was a political decision," an official said. In 2008, the United States approved an Israeli request for bunker-busters capable of destroying underground facilities, including Iranian nuclear weapons sites. Officials said delivery of the weapons was held up by the administration of President Barack Obama . Since taking office, Obama has refused to approve any major Israeli requests for U.S. weapons platforms or advanced systems. Officials said this included proposed Israeli procurement of AH-64D Apache attack helicopters, refueling systems, advanced munitions and data on a stealth variant of the F-15E. "All signs indicate that this will continue in 2010," a congressional source familiar with the Israeli military requests said. "This is really an embargo, but nobody talks about it publicly." Under the plan, the U.S. military was to have stored 195 BLU-110 and 192 BLU-117 munitions in unspecified air force bases in Israel. The U.S. military uses four Israeli bases for the storage of about $400 million worth of pre-positioned equipment meant for use by either Washington or Jerusalem in any regional war. In January 2010, the administration agreed to an Israeli request to double the amount of U.S. military stockpiles to $800 million. Officials said the bunker-busters as well as Patriot missile interceptors were included in the agreement. The decision to divert the BLU munitions was taken amid the crisis between Israel and the United States over planned construction of Jewish homes in Jerusalem. The administration, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, has warned that Washington could reduce military aid to Israel because of its construction policy. In 2007, after its war in Lebanon, Israel requested 2,000 BLU-109 live bombs from the United States. The 2,000-pound bomb, produced by Boeing and coupled with a laser guidance kit, was designed to penetrate concrete bunkers and other underground hardened sites. Israeli ambassador to the United States, Michael Oren, was quoted as saying that his country faced its biggest crisis with the United States since 1975. A pro-Israel lobbyist said Oren was referring to the current U.S. embargo, which echoed a decision taken 35 years ago by then-President Gerald Ford after Israel's refusal to withdraw from Egypt's Sinai Peninsula. Oren has since denied the remark. This is a good thing. I have always been pro Israel but Israel and the local Palestinian leadership both need to be taken by the scruff, sat down and not let out of the room until a peace deal is worked out. Then it needs to be enforced with muscle. It has to be fair for everyone. |
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planetbarb User ID: 917296 United States 03/19/2010 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe disinfo Quoting: Anonymous Coward 501224Could be. I hope this represents a sincere effort to rein in Israel and help work out an accord/ Today the Secretary of State Hillary issued a statement that partisan moves are not helping...it was a disapproval.. It may all sound weak but it is a start. |
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Exhibit A User ID: 920068 Canada 03/19/2010 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you see him begin to be blasted by the media, or for some past "indiscretion" to surface, or for some scandal to wipe him out like Clinton...then you know he really is stepping on toes in Israel. If he really is standing up to them then you can number his days in office, or maybe even his days in life... Israel will never give up the control it has in the US without a fight, look for a "message" to be sent if Obama is truly standing up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 902553 Canada 03/19/2010 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i dont understand the hold israel gov has over the us gov Quoting: Anonymous Coward 827793i can clearly see the benefits israel gets but dont see what the us gets in return A trojan horse near the oil providers incase the whole muslim world turns to fanatism |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 902553 Canada 03/19/2010 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | maybe disinfo Quoting: planetbarbCould be. I hope this represents a sincere effort to rein in Israel and help work out an accord/ Today the Secretary of State Hillary issued a statement that partisan moves are not helping...it was a disapproval.. It may all sound weak but it is a start. And once Iran has the bomb they will force the u.s. out of the mid-east and invade the neighboring oil providers. But then it will be too late, and fools like you will be crying at 300$ a barrel, while our economies go kaput. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 902553 Canada 03/19/2010 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the media, and the pressure on Obama. Quoting: Exhibit AIf you see him begin to be blasted by the media, or for some past "indiscretion" to surface, or for some scandal to wipe him out like Clinton...then you know he really is stepping on toes in Israel. If he really is standing up to them then you can number his days in office, or maybe even his days in life... Israel will never give up the control it has in the US without a fight, look for a "message" to be sent if Obama is truly standing up. The Israelis are smart enough to wait till is term is over. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 131036 United States 03/19/2010 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eh, nukes work better anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 649575thats what they are If they are nuclear, and may penetrate 30 or 40 meters at the most, wouldn't that explosion be too shallow to contain the radiation? Wouldn't radiation drift from these attack sites as well????? |
planetbarb User ID: 917296 United States 03/19/2010 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the media, and the pressure on Obama. Quoting: Exhibit AIf you see him begin to be blasted by the media, or for some past "indiscretion" to surface, or for some scandal to wipe him out like Clinton...then you know he really is stepping on toes in Israel. If he really is standing up to them then you can number his days in office, or maybe even his days in life... Israel will never give up the control it has in the US without a fight, look for a "message" to be sent if Obama is truly standing up. In my subjective opinion, I got a glimpse of him in the spiritual universe and he had some armor on. A lot of people pray for him every day. Somewhere along the line he decided not to be afraid, but to do what he feels is right, workable within reason and move this country forward. I am not so sure operatives from Israel would really want to harm him, but I understand your point. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 839695 Russia 03/19/2010 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eh, nukes work better anyway. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 131036thats what they are If they are nuclear, and may penetrate 30 or 40 meters at the most, wouldn't that explosion be too shallow to contain the radiation? Wouldn't radiation drift from these attack sites as well????? I assure you a swift google session will be rewarding for you... megatons of info about those nuke bunker busters out there. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 902553 Canada 03/19/2010 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | at least he does something worthwhile. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919904If it's true....let them use rocks like the Arabs do, and even up the odds... Why not start by educating their children instead of brainwashing them to hate. These people are used as pawns. A few years ago I noticed a guy every morning would push a mentally ill person and leave him in the subway with a hat on the floor to collect cash. When I left work, I would see that guy come and pick up is retard and the money at the end of the day. That's how pals are used and you people keep encouraging that. |