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Sly User ID: 943904 United States 04/19/2010 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let parents decide for themselves how to raise their children. It IS NOT of public concern. “Sex is interesting, but it's not totally important. I mean it's not even as important (physically) as excretion. A man can go seventy years without a piece of ass, but he can die in a week without a bowel movement.” - Charles Bukowski "Wow, you're like, "extreme". A 'warrior'. And a Bukowski quote. Guess folks need to know you walk 'the edge'. Oh and the quote is about sex and poop. You really are smashing barriers, aren't you?" - Anonymous Coward 926857 |
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Sandi_T User ID: 873093 United States 04/19/2010 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But that doesn't make it a child protection case. If we're going to make raising a child to enjoy tattoos into a child protection case, then we need to make raising a child Christian into a protection case because of the vile nature of the teaching of that religion. And we'll need to make not vaccinating into a child protection case. And we'll need to make... anything that anyone doesn't agree with, which isn't outright abuse, into child protection cases. What they are doing is morally wrong, but it's not legally wrong. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Thoughts Faux Fodder (OP) User ID: 941458 United States 04/19/2010 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also think tattoos are disgusting, and that teaching a child to get them is awful. Quoting: Sandi_TBut that doesn't make it a child protection case. If we're going to make raising a child to enjoy tattoos into a child protection case, then we need to make raising a child Christian into a protection case because of the vile nature of the teaching of that religion. And we'll need to make not vaccinating into a child protection case. And we'll need to make... anything that anyone doesn't agree with, which isn't outright abuse, into child protection cases. What they are doing is morally wrong, but it's not legally wrong. i tend to agree with you , i do however think that if that IS a real tattoo on her arm, that her parents have no sense- a 3 year old is not capable of grasping the permanency of such a thing... how will she feel about it when she is older?I hope it is henna or something similar. i know nothing about child work laws in the UK, how far can they take this? Can you imagine going in to get a tat and being asked if you mind a 5 year old artist? Last Edited by Thoughts Faux Fodder on 04/19/2010 09:27 AM Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune--without the words, And never stops at all.... Emily Dickinson |
Sandi_T User ID: 873093 United States 04/19/2010 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also think tattoos are disgusting, and that teaching a child to get them is awful. Quoting: Thoughts Faux FodderBut that doesn't make it a child protection case. If we're going to make raising a child to enjoy tattoos into a child protection case, then we need to make raising a child Christian into a protection case because of the vile nature of the teaching of that religion. And we'll need to make not vaccinating into a child protection case. And we'll need to make... anything that anyone doesn't agree with, which isn't outright abuse, into child protection cases. What they are doing is morally wrong, but it's not legally wrong. i tend to agree with you , i do however think that if that IS a real tattoo on her arm, that her parents have no sense- a 3 year old is not capable of grasping the permanency of such a thing... how will she feel about it when she is older?I hope it is henna or something similar. i know nothing about child work laws in the UK, how far can they take this? Can you imagine going in to get a tat and being asked if you mind a 5 year old artist? Well, the problem is, we do all kinds of things to our childrens' bodies that are wrong, IMO. I think it's wrong to vaccinate them, too. It's a violation of their bodies. But we have to make that choice for them, we really have to-- either way, we're making a choice for them. And if we start with tattoos, do we go to ear piercings? Circumcision (another terrible wrong to do to children-- and I do think THAT should be illegal-- genital mutilation for the lose)? Where, when, why, do we cross the line into stopping parents from making such decisions for their children? I would say that it should be at quality of life. Circumcision, for example, violates the quality of life for the child. Does tattooing? I would venture to think it does... and yet... it's not actually something that takes away their physical sensation as does ritual sexual organ mutilation. So it's a fine line, and one that is very hard to walk. Given the society she'll be raised in, in which tattooing is the norm, I don't think it's a problem to the degree where it should be intervened against. Just like ear piercing for most Americans is just "normal." In the tattooing community (in which she'll obviously be raised), tattooing is just normal. As far as the UK goes with removing children? The UK social monsters can remove children from anyone, with literally no reason except, "We think they WOULD abuse the child." It's rampant right now for infants to be removed from their parents because "they MIGHT abuse the child." The social wreckers have adoption quotas to fill now, thanks to a law Blair put in. If they meet their quota, their departments get money bonuses (huge ones). But unfortunately, people don't want to adopt 'broken' children, they want newborns fresh popped out of the womb. So the reasons why they'll remove children are pretty draconian. They've got quotas of children to remove, and children to sell (erm, adopt out). The more I read and hear about, the more I realize that there's not much they won't stop at to fill them. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
Thoughts Faux Fodder (OP) User ID: 941458 United States 04/19/2010 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also think tattoos are disgusting, and that teaching a child to get them is awful. Quoting: Sandi_TBut that doesn't make it a child protection case. If we're going to make raising a child to enjoy tattoos into a child protection case, then we need to make raising a child Christian into a protection case because of the vile nature of the teaching of that religion. And we'll need to make not vaccinating into a child protection case. And we'll need to make... anything that anyone doesn't agree with, which isn't outright abuse, into child protection cases. What they are doing is morally wrong, but it's not legally wrong. i tend to agree with you , i do however think that if that IS a real tattoo on her arm, that her parents have no sense- a 3 year old is not capable of grasping the permanency of such a thing... how will she feel about it when she is older?I hope it is henna or something similar. i know nothing about child work laws in the UK, how far can they take this? Can you imagine going in to get a tat and being asked if you mind a 5 year old artist? Well, the problem is, we do all kinds of things to our childrens' bodies that are wrong, IMO. I think it's wrong to vaccinate them, too. It's a violation of their bodies. But we have to make that choice for them, we really have to-- either way, we're making a choice for them. And if we start with tattoos, do we go to ear piercings? Circumcision (another terrible wrong to do to children-- and I do think THAT should be illegal-- genital mutilation for the lose)? Where, when, why, do we cross the line into stopping parents from making such decisions for their children? I would say that it should be at quality of life. Circumcision, for example, violates the quality of life for the child. Does tattooing? I would venture to think it does... and yet... it's not actually something that takes away their physical sensation as does ritual sexual organ mutilation. So it's a fine line, and one that is very hard to walk. Given the society she'll be raised in, in which tattooing is the norm, I don't think it's a problem to the degree where it should be intervened against. Just like ear piercing for most Americans is just "normal." In the tattooing community (in which she'll obviously be raised), tattooing is just normal. As far as the UK goes with removing children? The UK social monsters can remove children from anyone, with literally no reason except, "We think they WOULD abuse the child." It's rampant right now for infants to be removed from their parents because "they MIGHT abuse the child." The social wreckers have adoption quotas to fill now, thanks to a law Blair put in. If they meet their quota, their departments get money bonuses (huge ones). But unfortunately, people don't want to adopt 'broken' children, they want newborns fresh popped out of the womb. So the reasons why they'll remove children are pretty draconian. They've got quotas of children to remove, and children to sell (erm, adopt out). The more I read and hear about, the more I realize that there's not much they won't stop at to fill them. i agree with you again- the line is very fine, and it is a cultural one as well as a moral one... hubby & i chose not to circumcise our boys - but we did get our daughter's ears pierced as a baby ( thinking she would want it done later and that it would be easier for her if we got it done young) In some cultures female genitalia is mutilated on the rationale that if they dont enjoy sex they wont stray... barbaric in MY eyes,same as male circumcision, i don't understand removing bits of our bodie unless medically nesseccery. A lot of people would disagree with me, but i am lucky to have the right of making the best descion I see for my child- as are they. Many African tribes use piercings and scarring as marks of Manhood, ritual rites performed for thousands of years- are we to say they cannot continue a cultural tradition eons old? Here in the US they are quick to take children too, but we don't have homes for them all and many get lost in the chaos of bureaucracy- our child welfare system is a shambles imo.. so i tend to side on parents rights in most cases versus the state deeming "proper" parenting when there is not danger to the children involved. CI says ( via phone) that while she agrees with us on parents rights - that she would personally like to thrash whoever would tattoo a child that young ( if it IS a real tattoo) Hope is the thing with feathers That perches in the soul, And sings the tune--without the words, And never stops at all.... Emily Dickinson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 827793 United Kingdom 04/19/2010 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh a child is good at something so lets bring them down because of our fucked up views on life. you people who come here claim to be free and all for free speech. this child hasnt been forced to do this and she probably enjoys it. in a few years she may grow bored of it assholes |
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Sandi_T User ID: 873093 United States 04/19/2010 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CI says ( via phone) that while she agrees with us on parents rights - that she would personally like to thrash whoever would tattoo a child that young ( if it IS a real tattoo) Quoting: Thoughts Faux FodderYeah, on a personal level, not a legal level, I would like to thrash them, too. Rotten thing to do to a kid. Basically they are pigeonholing her into that social framework, or sentencing her to costly surgery to have it fixed later. But my PERSONAL views aside... parents rights are more important. Because ultimately, a tattoo isn't as bad as most of the things that happen in the foster care system these days. It's worse to lose your parents than to be tattooed. No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf: Past Lives requests thread: Thread: That Which Once Was: Past Lives |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 526155 Canada 04/19/2010 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let parents decide for themselves how to raise their children. It IS NOT of public concern. Quoting: SlyAs long as they are not tattooing her body as a toddler, I have no problem with the kid doing some body art on adults. Clearly this girl is an aritist and her parents are encouraging that. |