Was John Denver Assassinated? | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 955677 United States 05/30/2010 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump: Has to be somebody else who is with me. Also here is a short list of other entertainers who died in "plane crashes" [link to en.wikipedia.org] On that list you will find some very interesting people and causes/circumstances for the plane crashes. |
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Jenkins User ID: 982064 Canada 05/30/2010 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try to look fr evidence to prove your point. Did he say or do anything that the powers that be found revolting ? Old MacDonald had a farm, ee-i-ee-i-o. And on that farm he had a cow, ee-i-ee-i-o. With a moo moo here and a moo moo there Here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo Old MacDonald had a farm, ee-i-ee-i-o. |
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domesticangel User ID: 485004 United States 05/30/2010 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes he was. Still don't know why for sure anyway. Free your mind and the rest will follow. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2 BE the change you wish to see in the world. |
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JC Stanton (OP) User ID: 955677 United States 05/30/2010 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thinkexist.com] This is a good list of Denver quotes that make it obvious why TPTB might not like him so much. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 955677 United States 05/30/2010 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So while searching for some evidence I ended up back at GLP in a 2008 thread about a myth that denver had 40lbs of shit in his colon. That's not the point though. In the thread I found this posted by "Sid" User ID: 370463 "Don't let these people get you down. But I would be interested what you find out about this. Just before John Denver was killed he was at a meeting with the government about using sublisimal messaging in his music. He was always against this so I think the Black Alliance Illuminati had him wacked." Thread: John Denver had 40 lbs of Compacted Poop in his Colon? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 987080 United States 05/30/2010 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really don't think he was assassinted. There are so many people out there in the Christian (and many other genres) music industry saying and delivering the feel good messages he does and they're not all dying or whatever. What I'm really worried about though is the free exchange of ideas and info from the internet. I think we're only seeing the tip of the iceburg on suppressing our free speech all in the name of net neutrality. Chalk one up to the liberals for this movement as well. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 955677 United States 05/30/2010 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I really don't think he was assassinted. There are so many people out there in the Christian (and many other genres) music industry saying and delivering the feel good messages he does and they're not all dying or whatever. What I'm really worried about though is the free exchange of ideas and info from the internet. I think we're only seeing the tip of the iceburg on suppressing our free speech all in the name of net neutrality. Chalk one up to the liberals for this movement as well. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987080The christian music genre isn't really popular though. John Denver was popular. And mainstream christian rock is really not "good" in the way john denver was good. I don't listen to any of the christian stuff, but I've had friends who did and overhearing it as often as I did it's just not "godlike" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 983641 Canada 05/30/2010 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John Denver loved nature, flying (he was a licensed pilot) and his family. He was a man of peace, and spoke out against governments who advocated war. He campaigned for global peace and supported Greenpeace and Amnesty International. He was also a member of the Presidential 'Commission on World and Domestic Hunger' and was awarded the Presidential 'World Without Hunger' Award. His concern for the environment inspired him to establish the Windstar Foundation, a non-profit environmental education and research centre. During the 1980s, John was still recording but less frequently. He used his high-profile celebrity status to help publicise charities like the Cousteau Society, the National Wildlife Federation, Save the Children, the Friends of the Earth, the The Human/Dolphin Foundation and UNICEF. [link to www.bbc.co.uk] |
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JC Stanton (OP) User ID: 955677 United States 05/30/2010 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, why did they whack JFK jr the same way? Quoting: anon 769199I posted that link to a list of "plane crash" victims earlier. There were about 5 Kennedys on there. I think a lot of people are killed through plane crashes, but this thread is about Denver specifically. Look at John Denver and Neil Young. Their music is extremely similar in delivery except in lyrical content. Denver is all about peace and love whereas Neil's songs can often be quite depressing. Both became active musicians in early 60s. 1 is dead the other is alive. This is a very weak argument, I know. |
135 User ID: 918416 United States 05/30/2010 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DEATH OF A SENATOR Was Wellstone assassinated? Skeptics, conspiracy buffs wonder if Minnesota Democrat targeted for murder Posted: October 31, 2002 1:00 am Eastern By Joe Kovacs © 2010 WorldNetDaily.com In the cutthroat world of politics, there seems to be an endless supply of conspiracy theories, from the assassinations of Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy to the mysterious death of Vince Foster. Now the name of Sen. Paul Wellstone can be added to the list. Late Sen. Paul Wellstone, D-Minn. With control of the U.S. Senate hanging in the balance, political junkies, talk-radio hosts, journalism professors and Internet websites are promoting wild speculation that there's more to last week's plane crash than meets the eye. "Some Democrats and progressive Americans are asking the unthinkable about an administration they increasingly believe to be ruled by thugs and renegades," writes nationally syndicated cartoonist and commentator Ted Rall. "Did government gangsters murder the United States' most liberal legislator?" Wellstone's plane crashed Oct. 25 in freezing rain and light snow on approach near the Eveleth-Virginia Municipal Airport, about 175 miles north of Minneapolis. A pilot who witnessed the incident said the twin-engine craft seemed to veer away from the usual approach to the runway. Two years ago, just several weeks before election day, another Democratic senator, Mel Carnahan of Missouri, was killed in a small plane crash in heavy weather. His family has maintained a failed vacuum pump and manifold system are to blame. "The fact that we're having this discussion at all is a symptom of the polarizing effect that Bush and his top dogs have had on the United States since assuming office and even more so in the hard-right free-for-all that followed the Sept. 11 attacks," writes Rall in his column: Ronald Reagan may have been a hard-line conservative, but had Wellstone died during his watch you wouldn't have heard liberals asking whether the Gipper had had him offed. Bush is different. Asking mailmen to spy on ordinary Americans, creating military tribunals for anyone deemed an "enemy combatant," locking prisoners of war in dog cages, spending a decade's worth of savings in six months, allowing journalists to die rather than provide them with help in a war zone, smearing Democratic politicians as anti-American, invading sovereign nations without excuse – these are acts that transgress essential American reasonableness. A man capable of these things seems, by definition, capable of anything. Talk-show hosts including unabashed liberal Mike Webb of Seattle's KIRO-AM spent Saturday on the air entertaining the possibility of an assassination, explaining his gut reaction was that the crash was no accident. At least one caller who had just returned from a local anti-war rally said she had felt the same. Questions of an assassination plot have also reached the halls of academia, where some professors are openly discussing the possibility. "We need to confront these rumors," says Dr. Michael Niman, professor of journalism and media studies at Buffalo State College. "What I'm looking for is closure." In a partisan commentary entitled "Was Paul Wellstone Murdered?," Niman wrote his initial reaction to the news of the senator's death was "surprise that Wellstone had lived this long." There is no indication today that Wellstone's death was the result of foul play. What we do know, however, is that Wellstone emerged as the most visible obstacle standing in the way of a draconian political agenda by an unelected government. And now he is conveniently gone. For our government to maintain its credibility at this time, we need an open and accountable independent investigation involving international participation into the death of Paul Wellstone. Hopefully we will find out, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that this was indeed an untimely accident. For the sake of our country, we need to know this. While Niman's comments evince an anti-Bush stance, the professor says politics is not his motive. "It's not a left [versus] right issue," he told WorldNetDaily. "Supporters of the Bush administration should want to see this put to bed also." He suggests asking aviation officials from Canada to investigate the crash as an independent third party in lieu of the Federal Aviation Administration. "People aren't going to accept [the FAA] as an impartial board," said Niman. Meanwhile, the anti-Bush website voxnyc.com is claiming that not only is the president tied to Wellstone's death, but that it had predicted in May 2001 that another Democratic senator would soon be killed, with a plane crash as a likely scenario. The death will appear to be either a plane "accident" or by "natural causes" – whichever is most easily accomplished. ... If the death occurs just prior to the midterm senatorial elections, expect it to be in a state with a close race. Expect a Mel Carnahan-style hit. ... The mission to eliminate one or more of these senators is assuredly under way this very moment. It is now the single most critical mission of the current Bush administration. Neither the White House nor Wellstone's office returned calls for comment on the assassination theory, but the Republican National Committee calls the accusation "bizarre." There [are] theories aliens walk among us, that UFOs fly above our heads," RNC spokesman Jim Dyke told WorldNetDaily. "To me, it takes away some of the serious advances the Internet has made." Conspiracy theorists aren't just targeting Republicans in this matter. Some suggest that Democrats themselves could be the perpetrators, fearing Wellstone would lose Tuesday's election to Republican challenger Norm Coleman and give control of the Senate back to the GOP. Similar questions of foul play were raised during the Clinton administration, after Commerce Secretary Ron Brown died in a plane crash in Croatia in 1996. Air Force Lt. Col. Steve Cogswell, a medical doctor, forensic pathologist and deputy medical examiner with the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, released photos and x-rays which purported to show that Brown had a gunshot wound in his head. No autopsy was ever performed on the secretary, and as WorldNetDaily reported, Cogswell and other military officials who publicly questioned the investigation subsequently had their careers jeopardized with transfers and bad reviews. Paul Wellstone trading card If accusations of murder weren't enough, some Americans are now cashing in on Sen. Wellstone's death, courtesy of eBay. The online auctioneer is posting a wide variety of Wellstone-related goods. Some include photographs of the senator with other well-known figures, campaign buttons, pins and road signs, an autographed biography, Wellstone trading cards, bar coasters, and even a program from Tuesday night's memorial service/political rally. Paul Wellstone bar coaster "I'm surprised that they would do this so soon," said Rick Frese, a government professor at Bentley College in Waltham, Mass., quoted in the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "I can see some loyal supporters wanting to save their posters or lawn signs," said Frese, himself an avid collector of political memorabilia. "But I'm a little surprised that people would try to exploit this 'instant market.'" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 222101 United States 05/30/2010 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thinkexist.com] Quoting: JC Stanton 955677This is a good list of Denver quotes that make it obvious why TPTB might not like him so much. He was so positive, so much better then what came later. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 986278 United States 05/30/2010 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In some period before his death, John Denver was also pushing to be made a member of the Aspen Institute. They would not let him in and some ire resulted. Yeah, his heart was troubled and he came to have a drinking problem. However, he also felt strongly about things and wanted to see true, positive changes made. Perhaps, he had some realizations about how the real power structure works and pissed someone off. You know how some deaths happen and anything untoward never occurs to you? Then, when you hear of certain other deaths, your gut screams it was wrongfully done? My gut screamed when I heard of John Denver's death. He was a really decent pilot and hardly stupid. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 891582 United States 05/30/2010 09:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The christian music genre isn't really popular though. John Denver was popular. And mainstream christian rock is really not "good" in the way john denver was good. I don't listen to any of the christian stuff, but I've had friends who did and overhearing it as often as I did it's just not "godlike" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 955677You've obviously never been to a Mercy Me, Newsboys, Michael W, David Crowder or Chris Tomlin performance - these shows wail! |
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domesticangel User ID: 485004 United States 05/31/2010 01:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, why did they whack JFK jr the same way? Quoting: anon 769199It's convenient? Free your mind and the rest will follow. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God...Romans 12:2 BE the change you wish to see in the world. |
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Wolfen /v\ User ID: 18582091 United States 06/27/2012 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO Life is short.....live it with ecstasy! Intuition is a status of mind to live by. The most destructive lies we tell are the ones we tell ourselves. Once you stop this behavior things begin to change. The universe embraces you and gives you the courage, forbearance, faith, hope and love to move up the staircase. It's enLightening. Changing the world one person at a time. I II IIII IIIIIIII IIIIIIIIIIIIIII THE DOOR OF DOOM HAS BEEN BOLWN OEPN AND TREHE IS A GIPANG HLOE IN JAAPN! "One day your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it's worth watching." -- Gerard Way |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18672425 United States 06/27/2012 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is something that has been bothering me lately and I don't know why. I feel that John Denver was assassinated by TPTB because he wasn't one of their controlled musicians, his music is to uplifting, and he was popular. If you don't know John Denver is said to have died in a plane crash/accident. This seems to be a very common way for people to be killed. Think the polish incident that just happened, Senator Wellstone, Ron Brown, and the list goes on as long as you can think. Of course none of them were ever proven. Quoting: JC Stanton 955677 So to avoid ranting to long I will leave it to you. I think he committed suicide. |