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Holy SH*T US financial markets may be shut down on Monday DOOOOOM

 
whats the outlook.
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BOTTOM LINE? OP..whats the point loss mon close? nasdaq..dow an s@p?
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Do you guys really think that all of those entitled, spoiled, whiny crybabies are not going to throw tantrums, engage in road rage, or take a life suicide/murders? These are the same people whose whole concept of self-worth equates to a monetary value.
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True, I really believe a crash in the markets won't be much other than people have to learn to live within thier means again. The only ones in the market are bootlicking pensioners and gamblers. Their contribution to society isn't much. Better the markets crash and die and we can go back to a more humble way of life.
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American stock market is never going to crash because USA treasury and fed are purchasing stocks from last 2 years.Dont spread lies on one blog entry
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Thats true, but for how much longer can they do that.

BAsically the financial system of the world is a total sham and ponzi scheme. If one major player can't pay back another player the tiles will fall like in dominos.
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BOTTOM LINE? OP..whats the point loss mon close? nasdaq..dow an s@p?
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I don't know. Nobody knows and anybody that tells you they know is an idiot or a fool...or both. Or lucky.

1 piece of news can turn and burn this or any market.

I deal in trends and the trend is down. We've gone down almost 1300 points in less than two months. Asia went down, the Euro went down, the Dow, Nas and S&P will go down.

Will they stay down until the close? I don't know. Nobody does.

I would guess they all close at least 1% down and would buy EPV at the open and set my stop loss at 7%.

If I didn't think it would drop and stay down all day I wouldn't do that.


I still say this market will crash. Could be tomorrow, could be in July, or August. It will happen and it will happen soon.

There is no way to call day to day. There were days I would have SWORN we were heading for a 2% loss yet we went green and up 2%

Something could change overnight or tomorrow overseas or here locally and turn this market green tomorrow.

That is why I set a stop loss.

Last Edited by FatalWishes on 06/07/2010 12:55 AM
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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fear = control

once they take your $$$ and you are scared they will have control

'nuff said.
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unless your self sufficent. People have been warned for many years now what could come.
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what kind of a society do we live in when people sit around dreaming up shite to scare others with, so they will have an asthma attack? What kind of a society do we live in where someone gets off on the thought of some pending disaster which would result in suffering? This is sin. Period. Only sinful minds would think like that.


What kind of a drum circle loving, kum-bye-ya singing, hippie thinks it's OK to live in denial?

I want you people to wake the fuck up!
Mostly because deep down I know that I won't have the heart to turn your sorry ass away when you need food.

One more person warned is one less hungry mouth to feed when it happens.

People like you are going to be shittin' in hand dug holes before it is all over.
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i think there must be name for the sexual fetish of doom but i don't know what it is.
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-500 for Monday
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the stock market gained 70% from 12 month ago, so a 50% drop will still have you ahead. the market is for long term investment. i would just wait and see. if you need cash now, sell, but it's better to hold on to the stock and don't worry about it.
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What would a full throttle collapse do to the world?
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what kind of a society do we live in when people sit around dreaming up shite to scare others with, so they will have an asthma attack? What kind of a society do we live in where someone gets off on the thought of some pending disaster which would result in suffering? This is sin. Period. Only sinful minds would think like that.


What kind of a drum circle loving, kum-bye-ya singing, hippie thinks it's OK to live in denial?

I want you people to wake the fuck up!
Mostly because deep down I know that I won't have the heart to turn your sorry ass away when you need food.

One more person warned is one less hungry mouth to feed when it happens.

People like you are going to be shittin' in hand dug holes before it is all over.

i think there must be name for the sexual fetish of doom but i don't know what it is.
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DoomTard ;)
"I find your lack of faith disturbing."
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the stock market gained 70% from 12 month ago, so a 50% drop will still have you ahead. the market is for long term investment. i would just wait and see. if you need cash now, sell, but it's better to hold on to the stock and don't worry about it.
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Not if you dropped from 14k. Or 13k. Or 12k. Or panicked and sold September of 2008 or after that.
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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What would a full throttle collapse do to the world?
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Means anyone stupidly invested in the stock markets go broke.

What needed to be done all along is the big banks run by the banksters (told what to do by the elites) be run out of buisness for causing this collapse.
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What would a full throttle collapse do to the world?


Means anyone stupidly invested in the stock markets go broke.

What needed to be done all along is the big banks run by the banksters (told what to do by the elites) be run out of buisness for causing this collapse.
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too late now. The collapse is coming.And the new world order. Just what the elites wanted. The rich arrogant ashholes make the rest of of serfs.
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What would a full throttle collapse do to the world?


Means anyone stupidly invested in the stock markets go broke.

What needed to be done all along is the big banks run by the banksters (told what to do by the elites) be run out of buisness for causing this collapse.


too late now. The collapse is coming.And the new world order. Just what the elites wanted. The rich arrogant ashholes make the rest of of serfs.
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Basically the reason this happened was the elites from old europe were very worried in the 1880's that people were becoming to self sufficent and organized. And they wanted back them being kings of the world before it got out of hand. So a couple wars. Using the financail system they put in place they orgainzed taking over again and making the rest of us serfs again.
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fear = control

once they take your $$$ and you are scared they will have control

'nuff said.

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unless your self sufficent. People have been warned for many years now what could come.
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yup.

those just now waking up or paying attention to "us" are the ones freaking out.

everyone should've been on the same accord, but tv-obama-football-shopping are all one helluva distraction.
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I'd like to add why I think we are going down on Monday. Usually when we go down that hard the Vix goes nuts.

It only hit 35 or something, I don't remember but there was no panic. We just calmly slid down and broke 10k on the dow.

That is an important mental barrier. The deal is that it felt calm. Had it been panic, that is usually followed by a recovery and the next day we go up.

Calm USUALLY means buh bye for good.


Things are unwinding. Doesn't mean we can't go green. Every bear market has it's up days.
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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What will be the reaction of the sheople when they see it on the TV Screens?
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I agree, I would like the relief from such materialism. It's just too shallow.
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u must be a poor lazy, bitter fuck who is jealuos
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American stock market is never going to crash because USA treasury and fed are purchasing stocks from last 2 years.Dont spread lies on one blog entry


Thats true, but for how much longer can they do that.

BAsically the financial system of the world is a total sham and ponzi scheme. If one major player can't pay back another player the tiles will fall like in dominos.
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we know that but it cant be helped.You have to understand this ponzi scheme works against third world countries not against first world western ones.
When third world countries export something to western countries,all they get is printed paper .They buy crude oil with that money and survive for another day.
This can continue forever because of weapons USA n other western govt have in place.Threat of weapons and war always works.
It is modified form of colonialism.From last 60 years,western powers (even china) don't have to control slave countries directly.They can get raw materials,crude oil just by exchanging it with printed paper.
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what kind of a society do we live in when people sit around dreaming up shite to scare others with, so they will have an asthma attack? What kind of a society do we live in where someone gets off on the thought of some pending disaster which would result in suffering? This is sin. Period. Only sinful minds would think like that.

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What kind of a drum circle loving, kum-bye-ya singing, hippie thinks it's OK to live in denial?

I want you people to wake the fuck up!
Mostly because deep down I know that I won't have the heart to turn your sorry ass away when you need food.

One more person warned is one less hungry mouth to feed when it happens.

People like you are going to be shittin' in hand dug holes before it is all over.


so true!
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iamwith
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Sadly, the only solution to this mess is a world war, followed by a one world governing body. Money will become a controlled commodity and will be issued by the world bank. It will go directly into an account and there will be no physical money anymore.

The whole system - a system of total control - will be built from the ashes of war.


World war is absolutely NOT a solution to anything. A one-world government is absolutely NOT a solution to anything. Tightly controlled money is absolutely NOT a solution to anything. All your suggestions empower those behind this orchestrated financial collapse, with the worst possible outcome for everyone but the top 1%ers.

The exact opposite of what you suggested is what we need. We need a global economy that is not built on war and military spending, but instead focused entirely on investing, research, and development for the betterment of ALL society. Imagine how much innovation and growth there would be if new technologies weren't first snatched up or restricted to classified weapons systems.

Instead of a one-world mistake, we need to completely kill off globalism. Instead of turning countries into industrial colonies, make them dependent on themselves for their needs, with the industries built around serving the national population. Eliminate the world bank and strengthen ALL countries sovereignty.

Instead of tightly restricting money as a commodity (go to any third world country if you want to see what its like where cash only flows freely among the wealthy) we need to completely abolish the current money market system where the rich get richer by skimming off the movement of money and currencies. These financial pirates do not produce anything but new strategies to rip off society and scam the working population (and governments), by literally rigging financial markets. Money should only move between those who produce the goods and those who buy them. How many billions..trillions are circulating among the top 1%ers in markets rigged to be to complex for the average person to even comprehend? Restrict the STAGNATION of money like what is exactly what is happening with these 1%ers showing hundreds of billions back and forth.

clappa


This may be the most naive post Ive ever read. Truly idealistic nonsense.

You might want to try and live in the big boy world.....

lol...too funny..

Truly naive to how human beings organize...
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Whats naive about my post? I merely suggested exactly what I said, "what we need". Not whats likely or probable to happen (baring some dramatic events).

Of course the system right now is geared in one direction: circulating and holding large pools of wealth in markets and rich hands, less sovereignty for countries, less freedoms for populations, scientific advances geared toward war machine to protect and facilitate everything just described.

Get your head out your ass. We obviously don't need more war, more concentration of wealth in the hands of the elitist corporatists, more bottlenecking of technological advancement, and more global dominance by a small corrupt cabal. If you're looking for alternatives to things as they are now, my suggestions not only sound practical, they sound pretty dam essential.
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American stock market is never going to crash because USA treasury and fed are purchasing stocks from last 2 years.Dont spread lies on one blog entry


Thats true, but for how much longer can they do that.

BAsically the financial system of the world is a total sham and ponzi scheme. If one major player can't pay back another player the tiles will fall like in dominos.

we know that but it cant be helped.You have to understand this ponzi scheme works against third world countries not against first world western ones.
When third world countries export something to western countries,all they get is printed paper .They buy crude oil with that money and survive for another day.
This can continue forever because of weapons USA n other western govt have in place.Threat of weapons and war always works.
It is modified form of colonialism.From last 60 years,western powers (even china) don't have to control slave countries directly.They can get raw materials,crude oil just by exchanging it with printed paper.
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hf
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Nikkei is down by more than 350 points:

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

VALUE 9,546.73
CHANGE -354.46
% CHANGE -3.58
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too late now. The collapse is coming.And the new world order. Just what the elites wanted. The rich arrogant ashholes make the rest of of serfs.
Basically the reason this happened was the elites from old europe were very worried in the 1880's that people were becoming to self sufficent and organized.
And they wanted back them being kings of the world before it got out of hand. So a couple wars. Using the financail system they put in place they orgainzed taking over again and making the rest of us serfs again.
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very cunning and clever peoples.Just yesterday i was reading of leading rich families of USA.It is unbelivable some families still have loads of money from 1700 onwards despite so many wars,femines,natural disasters,financial crises.They are still rich.
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too late now. The collapse is coming.And the new world order. Just what the elites wanted. The rich arrogant ashholes make the rest of of serfs.
Basically the reason this happened was the elites from old europe were very worried in the 1880's that people were becoming to self sufficent and organized.
And they wanted back them being kings of the world before it got out of hand. So a couple wars. Using the financail system they put in place they orgainzed taking over again and making the rest of us serfs again.
very cunning and clever peoples.Just yesterday i was reading of leading rich families of USA.It is unbelivable some families still have loads of money from 1700 onwards despite so many wars,femines,natural disasters,financial crises.They are still rich.
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The Rockefellers and Rothschilds run this country.
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too late now. The collapse is coming.And the new world order. Just what the elites wanted. The rich arrogant ashholes make the rest of of serfs.
Basically the reason this happened was the elites from old europe were very worried in the 1880's that people were becoming to self sufficent and organized.
And they wanted back them being kings of the world before it got out of hand. So a couple wars. Using the financail system they put in place they orgainzed taking over again and making the rest of us serfs again.
very cunning and clever peoples.Just yesterday i was reading of leading rich families of USA.It is unbelivable some families still have loads of money from 1700 onwards despite so many wars,femines,natural disasters,financial crises.They are still rich.
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They play by rules they write.
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what kind of a society do we live in when people sit around dreaming up shite to scare others with, so they will have an asthma attack? What kind of a society do we live in where someone gets off on the thought of some pending disaster which would result in suffering? This is sin. Period. Only sinful minds would think like that.

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What kind of a drum circle loving, kum-bye-ya singing, hippie thinks it's OK to live in denial?

I want you people to wake the fuck up!
Mostly because deep down I know that I won't have the heart to turn your sorry ass away when you need food.

One more person warned is one less hungry mouth to feed when it happens.

People like you are going to be shittin' in hand dug holes before it is all over.


so true!

iamwith
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So you idea of "waking people up" is to suggest impending catastrophe of a specific date and time period - which you yourself could not possibly accurately forecast. And what happens when a month goes by and people aren't grabbing lost children for diner? The only thing that will happen will be the loss of credibility for your ideas (not you, you'll be forgotten). I don't see what fearmongering does. Why whip each other into a constant frenzy. I believe in educating people about problems and solutions. Its great to lay out exactly what may happen if A, B, and C are allowed to continue their conduct, but to say, "shits all fucked up, you're gonna die, maybe soon", isn't really constructive.
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Ok, what am I failing to see that you all see?

Why head for the hills?

What doom is coming? I don't see anything that suggests it's as bad as you are all saying it is.

There still isn't any proof that DOOM has hit yet, or even close!



Ok, first the unemployment. Pretend for a minute that you were lied to and its actually at 17%.

Just go with me on this.....


Europe's money is becoming worthless....its crashing. The Euro is in deep shit.


The banks are still far in debt

America is still in debt.

The housing market is stiff fuk'd no matter what they are telling you.


I was a doomer before but now.....with the Gulf Coast....


Millions more are out of work. Almost 1/3rd of our economy just took a shit. The effects of this will be far reaching.


Unemployment, the Euro, and our Debt assures doom. 13 trillion dollars. Do you know what the interest payment is on that? Did you know that our debt to gdp is close to 100%? This machine is unstoppable by this point. Our leaders past and present are/were fools. And we were lied to.

Accept it.
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well said man
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too late now. The collapse is coming.And the new world order. Just what the elites wanted. The rich arrogant ashholes make the rest of of serfs.
Basically the reason this happened was the elites from old europe were very worried in the 1880's that people were becoming to self sufficent and organized.
And they wanted back them being kings of the world before it got out of hand. So a couple wars. Using the financail system they put in place they orgainzed taking over again and making the rest of us serfs again.
very cunning and clever peoples.Just yesterday i was reading of leading rich families of USA.It is unbelivable some families still have loads of money from 1700 onwards despite so many wars,femines,natural disasters,financial crises.They are still rich.
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ding!ding!ding!

Want to avoid or seriously reduce the chance of this kind of DOOM? Restrict the stagnation of wealth in a few hands for extended periods. Keep the wealth flowing, keep it dispersed among as much of the population as possible, and keep it moving. How do you think this country got so rich in the first place? I'm sure these wallstreet tycoons are great people, but it should be the business of every government to make this unending throwing around of large pools of other people's livehoods and sapping the wealth from entire populations not just illegal, but almost impossible.
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They play by rules they write.
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or they write rules to help them.ha ha





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