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Please, show me ONE scientific study that links cigarettes to cancer! | |
| justone User ID: 1003944  Slovenia06/15/2010 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
BRIEF AND TO THE POINT  User ID: 381742  United States06/15/2010 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cigarettes don't cause cancer...Parasites reproducing in the presence of Propyl alcohol inside the body when the liver is too weak to fight it off, is what causes cancer...Cigarettes do weaken the body however... Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support! :Brieffromnativea: |
| BRIEF AND TO THE POINT User ID: 381742 United States06/15/2010 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and Propyl alcohol is in EVERYTHING... Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support! :Brieffromnativea: |
| Lucky Charms User ID: 1004011  Ireland06/15/2010 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Drs. Herbert L. Lombard and Carl B. Doering. "Cancer Studies . . . Habits, Characteristics and Environment of Individuals With And Without Cancer," 198 New England Journal of Medicine (#10) 481-487 [link to medicolegal.tripod.com] Links increases in lung & mouth cancer to tobacco smoking. Published in 1928. Omg epic fail OP. 'Magically Delicious' |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1003944 Slovenia06/15/2010 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cigarettes don't cause cancer...Parasites reproducing in the presence of Propyl alcohol inside the body when the liver is too weak to fight it off, is what causes cancer...Cigarettes do weaken the body however... Quoting: BRIEF AND TO THE POINTat least one that is not a religious or scientific fundamentalist. ps.: radiation is a good source of cancer |
| Share The Unknown User ID: 884909 United States06/15/2010 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003684  Norway06/15/2010 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read a book a while ago - can't remember the title or writer - but it was about this issue: A scientist who said that NO-ONE had been able to prove that smoking leads to cancer no matter how much they forced the (poor) lab-animals to smoke. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1003944 Slovenia06/15/2010 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Drs. Herbert L. Lombard and Carl B. Doering. Quoting: Lucky Charms"Cancer Studies . . . Habits, Characteristics and Environment of Individuals With And Without Cancer," 198 New England Journal of Medicine (#10) 481-487 [link to medicolegal.tripod.com] Links increases in lung & mouth cancer to tobacco smoking. Published in 1928. Omg epic fail OP. not too lucky, hey? Did I not write in the OP that statistical study is NOT scientific study. sheesh... I knew that people are dumb enough to confuse them, so I specifically pointed that out. But even with that precaution in place, you post a statistical study? ah, well... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1003944 Slovenia06/15/2010 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read a book a while ago - can't remember the title or writer - but it was about this issue: A scientist who said that NO-ONE had been able to prove that smoking leads to cancer no matter how much they forced the (poor) lab-animals to smoke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003684exactly what I am aiming at... and that is the truth... You can puff cigarette smoke at any animal for as long as you want. sure, you might kill the animal in the process, but they will never grow a tumor. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 415939 United States06/15/2010 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nuclear weapons testing is what has caused the explosion of cancer. only 20% of smokers develop lung cancer less than 50% of the people with lung cancer, smoke. Lung cancer is caused by something other that the residue of a burning plant. Plant residue cannot alter DNA code |
| rken User ID: 1003781  Thailand06/15/2010 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1003944 Slovenia06/15/2010 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nuclear weapons testing is what has caused the explosion of cancer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415939only 20% of smokers develop lung cancer less than 50% of the people with lung cancer, smoke. Lung cancer is caused by something other that the residue of a burning plant. Plant residue cannot alter DNA code BINGO One that knows... Worlds (US,Russia, China, France) governments are responsible to have put 5000kg of plutonium in the air prior to banning open air nuclear tests. 1 microgram of plutonium causes terminal cancer. When did the spike ib cancer happen? When did they start blaiming it on tobacco? it's all in the open |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1004037 United States06/15/2010 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The present day scientific religion thrives only on the basis that the mainstream media play by their tune. Quoting: justone 1003944Well they are all together... banks, pharmaceuticals, oil, media, they all have the same people behind them. And they have forced onto us the idea that cigarettes, mainly tobacco are the primary reason for the present day cancer growth throughout the world. And again it is a "scientific fact" without any scientific study or proof to back it up. Why would they want to do that? Well there is a simple explanation. But first I would like to see if anyone of you can come up with just one scientific study that links tobacco to cancer. ps. scientific study is not, I repeat, NOT a statistical study. Statistical studies are like computer modeling, you can change the variables as long as you don't get the result you were hoping for in the first place. Now young scientific fundamentalist... the race is on... YOu do realise what you are saying is rediculous...don't you? HOw mauch proof do you need that they cause cancer? That's like saying "show me proof that a car can kill you"? Do you want to watch someone get killed by a speeding car befor your eyes? Are you that dense? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1003944 Slovenia06/15/2010 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOu do realise what you are saying is rediculous...don't you? HOw mauch proof do you need that they cause cancer? That's like saying "show me proof that a car can kill you"? Do you want to watch someone get killed by a speeding car befor your eyes? Are you that dense? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1004037Please don't be a scientific fundamentalist. Show some evidence or go pray in your cancer church. |
| INK User ID: 962952 United States06/15/2010 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm a former smoker who totally LOVED the habit. However, I gave it up when I saw many people in my very own family dying of cancer, and they were all smokers. So scientific study aside, I just decided I didn't want to die that way. |
| rken User ID: 1003781 Thailand06/15/2010 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YOu do realise what you are saying is rediculous...don't you? HOw mauch proof do you need that they cause cancer? That's like saying "show me proof that a car can kill you"? Do you want to watch someone get killed by a speeding car befor your eyes? Are you that dense? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1004037Show us your scientific study or shut up. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1003944 Slovenia06/15/2010 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm a former smoker who totally LOVED the habit. However, I gave it up when I saw many people in my very own family dying of cancer, and they were all smokers. So scientific study aside, I just decided I didn't want to die that way. Quoting: INK 962952good for you... but completely beside the point... It could have been caused by any number of reasons, but of course, since they were smokers, there wasn't much to think about. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1001781  Australia06/15/2010 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1001781 Australia06/15/2010 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm a former smoker who totally LOVED the habit. However, I gave it up when I saw many people in my very own family dying of cancer, and they were all smokers. So scientific study aside, I just decided I didn't want to die that way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003944good for you... but completely beside the point... It could have been caused by any number of reasons, but of course, since they were smokers, there wasn't much to think about. Yeah thats right, you are 100% right. If someone ever smoked ever once in their life, it goes down as a smoking related death. The majority of lung cancer it is known to be caused by Radon gas naturally occurring and after mining operations and construction when they dig up the ground. |
| rken User ID: 1003781 Thailand06/15/2010 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm a former smoker who totally LOVED the habit. However, I gave it up when I saw many people in my very own family dying of cancer, and they were all smokers. So scientific study aside, I just decided I didn't want to die that way. Quoting: INK 962952Where did most of your family that got cancer live. what types of cancer did they get. curious. I was raised around smokers and non of them died of lung cancer. |
| BRIEF AND TO THE POINT User ID: 381742 United States06/15/2010 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cigarettes don't cause cancer...Parasites reproducing in the presence of Propyl alcohol inside the body when the liver is too weak to fight it off, is what causes cancer...Cigarettes do weaken the body however... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003944at least one that is not a religious or scientific fundamentalist. ps.: radiation is a good source of cancer No. Radiation only weakens the body and allows the cancer to grow...if you have propyl alcohol in the blood and organs... Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support! :Brieffromnativea: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1001781 Australia06/15/2010 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nuclear weapons testing is what has caused the explosion of cancer. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003944only 20% of smokers develop lung cancer less than 50% of the people with lung cancer, smoke. Lung cancer is caused by something other that the residue of a burning plant. Plant residue cannot alter DNA code BINGO One that knows... Worlds (US,Russia, China, France) governments are responsible to have put 5000kg of plutonium in the air prior to banning open air nuclear tests. 1 microgram of plutonium causes terminal cancer. When did the spike ib cancer happen? When did they start blaiming it on tobacco? it's all in the open Yes and you are right again. Much of it is from nuclear testing with host dust particles floating around the whole world. And if you are unlucky enough to come into contact with one then it can cause cancer. And they have half lives of like 3000 years. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 863844  Canada06/15/2010 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm a former smoker who totally LOVED the habit. However, I gave it up when I saw many people in my very own family dying of cancer, and they were all smokers. So scientific study aside, I just decided I didn't want to die that way. Quoting: INK 962952The propensity of cancer is inherited. You are far more likely have certain types of cancer (such as lung cancer) if you've had a relative who's had lung cancer. It's a much larger factor than smoking. I quit smoking but not because I'm worried about cancer. It's gotten too expensive, there's too much in the way of social prohibitions now (banned at bars here, cold winters) and it smells awful to me now. I had a co-worker whose husband died of lung cancer and never smoked. But he spent the summer building a deck and didn't wear a face mask while sawing and sanding. Pressure treated wood has all kinds of nasty chemicals. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 863844 Canada06/15/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| rken User ID: 1003781 Thailand06/15/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm a former smoker who totally LOVED the habit. However, I gave it up when I saw many people in my very own family dying of cancer, and they were all smokers. So scientific study aside, I just decided I didn't want to die that way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 863844The propensity of cancer is inherited. You are far more likely have certain types of cancer (such as lung cancer) if you've had a relative who's had lung cancer. It's a much larger factor than smoking. I quit smoking but not because I'm worried about cancer. It's gotten too expensive, there's too much in the way of social prohibitions now (banned at bars here, cold winters) and it smells awful to me now. I had a co-worker whose husband died of lung cancer and never smoked. But he spent the summer building a deck and didn't wear a face mask while sawing and sanding. Pressure treated wood has all kinds of nasty chemicals. They are proving now that most cancers are a virus or other type of infection. such as the new vaccine for cervical cancer. If you would have said that ten years ago, they would have hung you. lol |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 979719 United States06/15/2010 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003684 Norway06/15/2010 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had a co-worker whose husband died of lung cancer and never smoked. But he spent the summer building a deck and didn't wear a face mask while sawing and sanding. Pressure treated wood has all kinds of nasty chemicals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 863844We are surrounded by chemicals: Our houses, our food, our water, the air, the soil. |
| BRIEF AND TO THE POINT User ID: 381742 United States06/15/2010 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and Propyl alcohol is in EVERYTHING... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 863844Got some links or furher reading recommendations? This is a new one for me... Dr. Hulda Clark "The Cure For All Cancers" and "The Cure For All Diseases" Poor people do poor people things, and rich people do rich people things. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! when you rob Paul to give to Peter ... ... ... you will always get Peters support! :Brieffromnativea: |
| rken User ID: 1003781 Thailand06/15/2010 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP so your saying that radiation is the sole source of cancer and that they are blaming it on tobacco. Interesting. I had a PHD in chemistry give me the info about auto;s and cancer versus tobacco. He also worked for the DIA if that matters. |
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