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The Only Reason Christians Preach On GLP is That They Doubt Their own Beliefs!!

 
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You can argue until you're blue in the face, but the people who really "Get" God, from whatever faith they get him from


When I read this, I see YOU do not "Get it." Infinite Consciousness/the Universal Mind/Unconditional Love is NOT a "HE!!!!!" Get it????????????

Douchebag - I'm not here for your PC Semantics Game. I say "He" because it's generic. Please find something better to do with your time here.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


Sorry, I love doing what I'm doing. I'm not going anywhere. I have a suggestion - Why not call God - Shim = both he and she combined.
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By your own admission you were also a Christian so why are you attacking people that believe in the things that you used to believe in ?? It doesnt make sense .


"Attacking" is a very strong word. It's like Sandi_T said, it's the thinkers/questioners/seekers that we're interested in and not the hard-core believers. It's very rare for a hard-core believer to have their eyes opened and find enough courage to rid themselves of the chains of religious slavery, all in one incarnation. That's how difficult it is to be released from the shackles of religion.
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There are aspects of Christiandom (And any faith, including non-faith) that are like chains and slavery.

The intensely stupid amongst us are just as likely to get nothing liberating out of Religion than they are a Physics Textbook.

If (and I believe this is accurate) 99% of the world is packed to the brim with idiots, than 99% of Christianity is idiocy.

The only thing you can really hope for, for an idiot, is that they do not hurt themselves and/or others. If a large chunk of our (or anyone's) religion serves this purpose, it's a good thing.

There are a few idiots that have just enough intelligence to flatter themselves into thinking they know and understand everything there is to know about something...something like Christian Theology.

But you'll see, in their attacks, that they do not know or understand 10%, because they are stuck on Sunday-School concepts that the 1%'ers have moved on from a long, long time ago. I don't think HardTruth is one of those people, I think he's more like myself, just on the opposite side of the fence.

Sandi, on the other hand, I pity her. She really does think she's bright enough to play ball in this stadium. She's not bright at all, she's just angry and hateful.
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Well we will all find out soon enough who was right .
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Again Hard-truth , What exactly do you believe in ???


I believe there are indeed TRUE CREATOR(S) out there, the originals, but more than one!!

None of these are the gods of Earth in our understanding, or as described in any of the ancient texts!!

The flesh and blood Elohim/Annunaki did indeed create the human race, but not the souls that occupy these fleshly shells for those are from the true creators!!

None of these Elohim/Annunaki can be classified as divine in nature!!
___________

If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth



And some may chose to believe that this did occur as an effort to corrupt the bloodline of man and hence the reason for the flood.

But either way, it is a belief. If it is your belief, who am I to argue with you. Surely the truth will be known in the end.

So while we are on this earth and lack full knowledge of things above, perhaps he should rather seek peace, and brotherly kindness?

And these are the things taught by our Lord?
Who can find fault in these teachings?

But we rather bite at one another. At look to find fault in one another.

The bible teaches us that 3 things abide;

Faith, Hope, and Love... And the greatest of these is Love.

peace to you,
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Well we will all find out soon enough who was right .
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and how will we do that?
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You can argue until you're blue in the face, but the people who really "Get" God, from whatever faith they get him from


When I read this, I see YOU do not "Get it." Infinite Consciousness/the Universal Mind/Unconditional Love is NOT a "HE!!!!!" Get it????????????

Douchebag - I'm not here for your PC Semantics Game. I say "He" because it's generic. Please find something better to do with your time here.


Sorry, I love doing what I'm doing. I'm not going anywhere. I have a suggestion - Why not call God - Shim = both he and she combined.
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I don't know what goes on in Canada, although I'm nearby in Detroit, Michigan. I've been there a few times and I have to tell you, I really don't get it. It's fine, enjoy yourselves up there, I'm totally cool with it but it's not for me.

Especially if what passes for intelligence up there is inventing useless words for idiots that can't understand a generic usage of the term "He" when referring to a nameless, faceless concept "Diety"

This is the last and final semantics argument you'll waste my time with.
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Why do you have to attack the poster Sandi T ???


Sandi T is filled with hatred because some Christian "done 'er wrong" at some point or another. I've gone rounds with her several times in the past...she's completely unreasonable, totally closed minded (And thus dead, IMO)

If you dig up her posts, you'll see she likes to whip out her vileness at the drop of a hat, if not right out of the gate.

I'd like to meet her in person, because I really want to know how someone so horrible passes in life. It must be a lot of work, hiding her rage from everyday people.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


You say that because you have absolutely no idea how damaging religion can be to the psyche. It takes years and years, (if ever), for that pain and anger to be healed. It's been 15 years for me and there's still a whole lot of pain and still quite a bit of anger. So, unless you've walked in Sandi_T's shoes, you have no right to pass judgment on her.
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Plus,if you're a Baptist,they don't allow you to talk to each other in the liquor store.
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Heehehe

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You can argue until you're blue in the face, but the people who really "Get" God, from whatever faith they get him from


When I read this, I see YOU do not "Get it." Infinite Consciousness/the Universal Mind/Unconditional Love is NOT a "HE!!!!!" Get it????????????

Douchebag - I'm not here for your PC Semantics Game. I say "He" because it's generic. Please find something better to do with your time here.


Sorry, I love doing what I'm doing. I'm not going anywhere. I have a suggestion - Why not call God - Shim = both he and she combined.

I don't know what goes on in Canada, although I'm nearby in Detroit, Michigan. I've been there a few times and I have to tell you, I really don't get it. It's fine, enjoy yourselves up there, I'm totally cool with it but it's not for me.

Especially if what passes for intelligence up there is inventing useless words for idiots that can't understand a generic usage of the term "He" when referring to a nameless, faceless concept "Diety"

This is the last and final semantics argument you'll waste my time with.
 Quoting: Greg_B.

I think she is a feminist . LOL . Cant even accept that God is male .
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Well we will all find out soon enough who was right .

and how will we do that?
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Because the signs are all around that the bible mentions for the second-coming .
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Sandi, on the other hand, I pity her. She really does think she's bright enough to play ball in this stadium. She's not bright at all, she's just angry and hateful.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


And may I suggest, her anger and pain are for very good reason!! When your psyche has been injured by religion, you cannot heal in a blink of an eye. I know all too well what it feels like.
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If what I remember from HardTruth's many writings is accurate, we essentially come to agreement that Mankind was tampered with by Beings who allowed us to believe they were "Gods".

I do not, however, see any reason to discard Jesus Christ based on this information.

I'm sure we've all seen Zeitgeist? The duller amongst us see Zeitgeist and go "Wow, it's all just Astrology, what bullshit!" and close the book.

Those of us who are able to think outside of the box, however, see the Zodiac Christ story and realize that the MOST HIGH and TRUE God, who truly created the Universe, Multiverse, etc... laid the plan out for all to see before it even happened.

Which is what the Bible says God did, btw.

Now, armed with this information, we see why there were so many "Saviours" in history.

If there is an adversary (be it being or force) we would expect as much pee in the pool as possible to confuse matters for all generations as to who the expected Saviour would be.

Nevertheless, you can't hide the Stars, and the truly wise knew when and where to look for the Son of God.

God, IMO (and HardTruth's I think), not being Yahweh who Sandi so thoroughly despises.
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Well we will all find out soon enough who was right .

and how will we do that?


Because the signs are all around that the bible mentions for the second-coming .
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well, give me a date so i can check back with ye after it's come and gone.
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You say that because you have absolutely no idea how damaging religion can be to the psyche. It takes years and years, (if ever), for that pain and anger to be healed. It's been 15 years for me and there's still a whole lot of pain and still quite a bit of anger. So, unless you've walked in Sandi_T's shoes, you have no right to pass judgment on her.
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Well, while Sandi heals (and I hope she does) she can, with respect and sympathy for her damage, fuck right off. She just doesn't know what she's talking about and she comes from a place of anger and hate.

If she wants to have a nice debate when she's all better, I'd love to take her on.

And I'll judge all I want, thank you. I've been through plenty of things myself.

I don't care what happened to you, know what you're talking about.
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Applying the same logic in your hypothesis, then we also could say that the only reason you, Hard Truth, preach against Christianity on GLP is because you doubt your own beliefs!!
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Applying the same logic in your hypothesis, then we also could say that the only reason you, Hard Truth, preach against Christianity on GLP is because you doubt your own beliefs!!
 Quoting: ThreshingSword 792611

It shouldn't be any secret...the truly wise doubt everything, including themselves. However, the truly wise would never type such an headline, because it would point out how unwise they actually are.
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Applying the same logic in your hypothesis, then we also could say that the only reason you, Hard Truth, preach against Christianity on GLP is because you doubt your own beliefs!!
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Yeah i think its called projection .
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Especially if what passes for intelligence up there is inventing useless words for idiots that can't understand a generic usage of the term "He" when referring to a nameless, faceless concept "Diety"

This is the last and final semantics argument you'll waste my time with.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


Now we're resorting to bashing nations. Talk about lack of intelligence.

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Well we will all find out soon enough who was right .

and how will we do that?


Because the signs are all around that the bible mentions for the second-coming .

well, give me a date so i can check back with ye after it's come and gone.
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IMHO , under 10 years . hf
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There only looking to see if there are others out there still believing in the ancient fairy tales!!

The same disclaimer GLP uses should be stamped on every cover of the bible!!

Disclaimer:

DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ IN THIS BOOK!

The reader is responsible for discerning the validity, factuality or implications of information written here, be it fictional or based on real events


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If you are a Christian experiencing some doubt over your faith, you are going to receive a lot of advice from your fellow Christians. You will be told about how doubt will strengthen your faith and bring you closer to your god. I'm not here to argue with that or to tell you that such a perspective is wrong. I just want to point out that there is another possibility you should at least consider. What if the doubt you are experiencing is a healthy sign that your rational mind is trying to break free from a tradition of superstition?

[link to www.atheistrev.com]

20 Reasons to abandon Christianity

1. Christianity is based on fear.
2. Christianity preys on the innocent.
3. Christianity is based on dishonesty.
4. Christianity is extremely egocentric.
5. Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality.
6. Christianity breeds authoritarianism.
7. Christianity is cruel.
8. Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific.
9. Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex.
10. Christianity produces sexual misery.
11. Christianity has an exceedingly narrow, legalistic view of morality.
12. Christianity encourages acceptance of real evils while focusing on imaginary evils.
13. Christianity depreciates the natural world.
14. Christianity models hierarchical, authoritarian organization.
15. Christianity sanctions slavery.
16. Christianity is misogynistic.
17. Christianity is homophobic.
18. The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ’s teachings.
19. The Bible, Christianity’s basic text, is riddled with contradictions.
20. Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions.

[link to freethoughtpedia.com]
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Fact is, HardTruth, you say thehy are lost because they do not think and believe like you do. Is that not their message? You are not any different than those you point your finger at are you?
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I think HT will eat his hat in a few years . LOL .
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There are aspects of Christiandom (And any faith, including non-faith) that are like chains and slavery.

The intensely stupid amongst us are just as likely to get nothing liberating out of Religion than they are a Physics Textbook.

If (and I believe this is accurate) 99% of the world is packed to the brim with idiots, than 99% of Christianity is idiocy.

The only thing you can really hope for, for an idiot, is that they do not hurt themselves and/or others. If a large chunk of our (or anyone's) religion serves this purpose, it's a good thing.

There are a few idiots that have just enough intelligence to flatter themselves into thinking they know and understand everything there is to know about something...something like Christian Theology.

But you'll see, in their attacks, that they do not know or understand 10%, because they are stuck on Sunday-School concepts that the 1%'ers have moved on from a long, long time ago. I don't think HardTruth is one of those people, I think he's more like myself, just on the opposite side of the fence.

Sandi, on the other hand, I pity her. She really does think she's bright enough to play ball in this stadium. She's not bright at all, she's just angry and hateful.
 Quoting: Greg_B.


And now you know why the sweet, innocent, loving little Greg_B gets "attacked."

Because he's an asshole.

SURPRISE, I treat him like one cause he IS one.

Novel concept. wink

Best part is, he is so self-aggrandizing, while he has absolutely zero idea of what's really going on in the discussion he thinks he's too good for.

whatever
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This is the last and final semantics argument you'll waste my time with.

I think she is a feminist . LOL . Cant even accept that God is male .
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If you are talking about YHWH, most certainly he is/was male. But, when you speak of the Universal Intelligence that created all that is, then NO, that Intelligence is NOT a "HE!!!!" It is a form of energy, and energy has no gender and no face!! Got it?????????
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The reason Christians preach is because it's their duty as Christians to spread the word of G-d.

The reason you attack Christians is a much better topic of discussion.


I've read many bibles front to back, and I didn't find any words of a TRUE DIVINE entity in it anywhere!!

The reason I attack the christian religion?

I heard a voice!!
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth


Note: it's ok when HardTruth hears a voice, but Christians hear a voice, it's their imagination? I'm confused.
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I think HT will eat his hat in a few years . LOL .
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I hope not
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There are aspects of Christiandom (And any faith, including non-faith) that are like chains and slavery.

The intensely stupid amongst us are just as likely to get nothing liberating out of Religion than they are a Physics Textbook.

If (and I believe this is accurate) 99% of the world is packed to the brim with idiots, than 99% of Christianity is idiocy.

The only thing you can really hope for, for an idiot, is that they do not hurt themselves and/or others. If a large chunk of our (or anyone's) religion serves this purpose, it's a good thing.

There are a few idiots that have just enough intelligence to flatter themselves into thinking they know and understand everything there is to know about something...something like Christian Theology.

But you'll see, in their attacks, that they do not know or understand 10%, because they are stuck on Sunday-School concepts that the 1%'ers have moved on from a long, long time ago. I don't think HardTruth is one of those people, I think he's more like myself, just on the opposite side of the fence.

Sandi, on the other hand, I pity her. She really does think she's bright enough to play ball in this stadium. She's not bright at all, she's just angry and hateful.


And now you know why the sweet, innocent, loving little Greg_B gets "attacked."

Because he's an asshole.

SURPRISE, I treat him like one cause he IS one.

Novel concept. wink

Best part is, he is so self-aggrandizing, while he has absolutely zero idea of what's really going on in the discussion he thinks he's too good for.

whatever
 Quoting: Sandi_T

I believe Sandi T is just someone who looks for arguments and God forbid anyone disagrees with her .
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Applying the same logic in your hypothesis, then we also could say that the only reason you, Hard Truth, preach against Christianity on GLP is because you doubt your own beliefs!!
 Quoting: ThreshingSword 792611


As I've stated many times, we all were intentionally created to be behind the veil, cut off from what should be normal spiritual insights!!

We are forced to reincarnate having no memories of our past lives, even your John the Baptist, stated in your scriptures as having been the greatest man to walk the Earth, had no memories of his previous life as Elijah!!

Earth has come under siege in its ancient past by the very same false gods that created your religion!!

How is one to learn from his mistakes if we have no memories of those mistakes made in our past lives?

That is not the proper procedure for any type of species to advance and grow spiritually, but not if we have to start over each and every birth with a blank slate!!

I certainly don't have all the answers, and neither does anyone else, and why is that, because their erased each and every incarnation on this prison planet!!

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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!
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God, IMO (and HardTruth's I think), not being Yahweh who Sandi so thoroughly despises.
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Yes, YHWH is NOT Divine!! However, as we grew up we were taught YHWH was Divine and that he was the Creator of all that is. Then we were taught all the horrible things he did in the OT, especially all his stupid "rules" and you realize he punished the innocent. And you dare ask why we despise YHWH so much? I don't know about Sani_T, but this damn "LORD GOD" injured my psyche in a big way!!
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If you have ever thought , "God is loving and wouldn't send me to Hell , you are right ; your god wouldn't send anyone to Hell because your god doesn't exist . He is a figment of your imagination . You created a god in your own mind that you're more comfortable with , and that is called 'idolatry' . It's the oldest sin in the book and God warns us that idolaters will not inherit the kingdom of God ."
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Well we will all find out soon enough who was right .

and how will we do that?


Because the signs are all around that the bible mentions for the second-coming .

well, give me a date so i can check back with ye after it's come and gone.


IMHO , under 10 years . hf
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i've been hearing that for decades. ye gotta do better than that.





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