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Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do they esoterically represent? What meaning do they have? Quoting: 1123581321One has to be Initiated by the High Priestess on the way to immortal life. Its not Kinky or anything. Its a deeper meaning and mystery. and Im not into Twin Towers conspiracy. Im not a conspiracy theorist. You have to travel the Middle pillar. achieve Equilibrium, Be neither dark or light If you are into conspiracy theories, you wont get there. You cant play good guy , bad guy games. The Truth is initiated within by the Presiding Angels and God and yourself when it is your time. Study Qabbalah too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1126787 United States 10/11/2010 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do they esoterically represent? What meaning do they have? Quoting: HERMES (AZOTH)One has to be Initiated by the High Priestess on the way to immortal life. Its not Kinky or anything. Its a deeper meaning and mystery. and Im not into Twin Towers discussion, but you have to travel the Middle pillar. achieve Equilibrium, Be neither dark or light If you are into conspiracy theories, you wont get there. You cant play good guy , bad guy games. The Truth is initiated within by the Presiding Angels and God and yourself when it is your time. Study Qabbalah too. Freemasons worship Lucifer and most of the lower initiates don't even know it. The higher degrees deceive the lower degrees as to the meaning of the rituals. There is no truth in Freemasonry, no salvation. |
1123581321 (OP) User ID: 1117631 United States 10/11/2010 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do they esoterically represent? What meaning do they have? Quoting: HERMES (AZOTH)you have to travel the Middle pillar. achieve Equilibrium, Be neither dark or light So we are talking about the two pillars being duality and our path is to find balance between the two? That works for me, but I don't see how the Twin Towers being destroyed would fit into that metaphor. Maybe it doesn't... Just trying to see why the symbol is always appearing. Thanks Last Edited by 1123581321 on 10/11/2010 06:04 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 497757 United States 10/11/2010 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do they esoterically represent? What meaning do they have? Quoting: 1123581321you have to travel the Middle pillar. achieve Equilibrium, Be neither dark or light So we are talking about the two pillars being duality and our path is to find balance between the two? That works for me, but I don't see how the Twin Towers would fit into that metaphor. Maybe it doesn't... Just trying to see why the symbol is always appearing. Thanks Jesus Christ was crucified between this symbolism, the regret of the past and fear of the future. He was crucified at Golgatha, the place of the skull, where spiritual and intellectual enlightenment was put to death. |
X User ID: 1122828 United States 10/11/2010 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | XVI THE TOWER (OR: WAR) This card is attributed to the the letter Pe, which means a mouth; it refers to the planet Mars. In its simplest interpretation it refers to the manifestation of cosmic energy in its grossest form. The picture shows the destruction of existing material by fire. It may be taken as the prefaces to Atu XX, the Last Judgment, i.e., the Coming of a New Aeon. This being so, it seems to indicate the quintessential quality of the Lord of the Aeon. At the bottom part of the card, therefore, is shown the destruction of the old-established Aeon by lightning, flames, engines of war. In the right hand corner re the jaws of Dis, belching flame at the root of the structure. Falling from the tower are broken figures of the garrison. It will be noticed that they have lost their human shape. The have become mere geometrical expressions. This suggest another (and totally different) interpretation of the card to understand this, it is necessary to refer to the doctrines of yoga especially those most widely current in southern India, where the cult of Shiva, the Destroyer, is paramount. Shiva is represented as dancing upon the bodies of his devotees. To understand this is not easy for most western minds. Briefly, the doctrine is that the ultimate reality (which is Perfection) is Nothingness. Hence all manifestations however glorious, however delightful, are stains. To obtain perfection, all existing things must be annihilated. The destruction of the garrison ma therefore be taken to mean their emancipation from the prison of organized life, which was confining them. It was their unwisdom to cling to it.... There is a direct reference to this card in the BOOK OF THE LAW. In, Chapter 1, verse 57... The dominating feature of this card is the Eye of Horus. This is also the Eye of Shiva, on the opening of which, according to the legend of this cult, the Universe is destroyed... Excerpt from THE BOOK OF THOTH, ALIESTER CROWLEY. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do they esoterically represent? What meaning do they have? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497757you have to travel the Middle pillar. achieve Equilibrium, Be neither dark or light So we are talking about the two pillars being duality and our path is to find balance between the two? That works for me, but I don't see how the Twin Towers would fit into that metaphor. Maybe it doesn't... Just trying to see why the symbol is always appearing. Thanks Jesus Christ was crucified between this symbolism, the regret of the past and fear of the future. He was crucified at Golgatha, the place of the skull, where spiritual and intellectual enlightenment was put to death. That is why the NOW MOMENT is so important, True. I always like the book , the KYBALLION. Explained it quite nicely |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do they esoterically represent? What meaning do they have? Quoting: 1123581321you have to travel the Middle pillar. achieve Equilibrium, Be neither dark or light So we are talking about the two pillars being duality and our path is to find balance between the two? That works for me, but I don't see how the Twin Towers being destroyed would fit into that metaphor. Maybe it doesn't... Just trying to see why the symbol is always appearing. Thanks Well, ONE tower is easily symbolic of the Tower of Babylon, and the fall of mans pride, Since a TOWER has phallic connotations. It would be the Pride of Man which is fallen. Like the Pride of Lucifer. Walking between two pillars is symbolic of a spiritual initiation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freemasons worship Lucifer and most of the lower initiates don't even know it. The higher degrees deceive the lower degrees as to the meaning of the rituals. There is no truth in Freemasonry, no salvation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1126787Lucifer is also Gnosis in its good and bad forms. Ophis is the Serpent, Optic is our Eyes. He opened our eyes. and we obtained knowledge , working it for good or bad. Prometheus wanted to give fire to mankind. It can destroy us or warm us. Chemisty can advance for the good of mankind or make nuclear bombs. its all on ones perspective. Lucifer is also the sphere of Daath of the Sepiroth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090228 Ireland 10/11/2010 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freemasons worship Lucifer and most of the lower initiates don't even know it. The higher degrees deceive the lower degrees as to the meaning of the rituals. There is no truth in Freemasonry, no salvation. Quoting: HERMES (AZOTH)Lucifer is also Gnosis in its good and bad forms. Ophis is the Serpent, Optic is our Eyes. He opened our eyes. and we obtained knowledge , working it for good and bad. Prometheus wanted to give fire to mankind. It can destroy us or warm us. Chemisty can advance for the good of mankind or make nuclear bombs. its all on ones perspective. Lucifer is also the sphere of Daath of the Sepiroth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freemasons worship Lucifer and most of the lower initiates don't even know it. The higher degrees deceive the lower degrees as to the meaning of the rituals. There is no truth in Freemasonry, no salvation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1126787Funny, How America was founded by Freemasons, Huh, wow. And George Washington was a Freemason too. Nina, Pinta and Santa Maria mustve been one big lie for Lucifer. WOW. didnt know that... LOL please study Americas history, goodness... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freemasons worship Lucifer and most of the lower initiates don't even know it. The higher degrees deceive the lower degrees as to the meaning of the rituals. There is no truth in Freemasonry, no salvation. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090228Lucifer is also Gnosis in its good and bad forms. Ophis is the Serpent, Optic is our Eyes. He opened our eyes. and we obtained knowledge , working it for good and bad. Prometheus wanted to give fire to mankind. It can destroy us or warm us. Chemisty can advance for the good of mankind or make nuclear bombs. its all on ones perspective. Lucifer is also the sphere of Daath of the Sepiroth. HAHAHA. LOL !!!!!! I meant Good OR Bad. Me Bad... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1126787 United States 10/11/2010 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Freemasons worship Lucifer and most of the lower initiates don't even know it. The higher degrees deceive the lower degrees as to the meaning of the rituals. There is no truth in Freemasonry, no salvation. Quoting: HERMES (AZOTH)Lucifer is also Gnosis in its good and bad forms. Ophis is the Serpent, Optic is our Eyes. He opened our eyes. and we obtained knowledge , working it for good and bad. Prometheus wanted to give fire to mankind. It can destroy us or warm us. Chemisty can advance for the good of mankind or make nuclear bombs. its all on ones perspective. Lucifer is also the sphere of Daath of the Sepiroth. I know there are many so called Christians in Freemasonry who are either ignorant or deceived so they don't know they worship Lucifer as well as other deities. You cannot be a Christian and a Freemason because the Bible teaches that Lucifer is the enemy of God and so he is an enemy of men who worship God. There is a lot of deception and secrecy involved with Freemasonry and that's why many people see it as a sinister organization. Worshiping Lucifer doesn't help to change those views. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know there are many so called Christians in Freemasonry who are either ignorant or deceived so they don't know they worship Lucifer as well as other deities. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1126787You cannot be a Christian and a Freemason because the Bible teaches that Lucifer is the enemy of God and so he is an enemy of men who worship God. There is a lot of deception and secrecy involved with Freemasonry and that's why many people see it as a sinister organization. Worshiping Lucifer doesn't help to change those views. They worship God. and no one is a enemy of God. You can only be a enemy of yourself. As God is LOVE. America was founded on Freemasonry so honestly go move to Darfur, or Sierra Leonne cause youre not being Patriotic or grateful at all. Are you going to support the many Christian Churches that still preach the HELL doctrine? thats the most Erroneous ugly lie of them all. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can put all the high falutin fal de ra on it all you want. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1126653Basically it's a gang tag. Like a dog wiz to mark territory. Only the members of the gang know about it. Two horns hand sign is part of it. Repeating things twice is part of it. Two horns, Are you referring to the goat? whose the scapegoat then? Do something thats crap and blame it on the Devil. Thats blaming it on the scapegoat. In ancient times, Hebrew people used to beat on a goat to symbolically take on their sins and send it to the wilderness to die. You all like to blame others and make scapegoats instead of examining yourself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1114211 United States 10/11/2010 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They represent duality, our prison of false belief and illusion. Every ancient civilization tells of this trap of mankind, you just have to look for it. Study all the mythology on twins as a good place to start. Osiris and Set, Enki and Enlil, Cain and Able, Romulus and Remus, etc..etc.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1126787 United States 10/11/2010 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know there are many so called Christians in Freemasonry who are either ignorant or deceived so they don't know they worship Lucifer as well as other deities. Quoting: HERMES (AZOTH)You cannot be a Christian and a Freemason because the Bible teaches that Lucifer is the enemy of God and so he is an enemy of men who worship God. There is a lot of deception and secrecy involved with Freemasonry and that's why many people see it as a sinister organization. Worshiping Lucifer doesn't help to change those views. They worship God. and no one is a enemy of God. You can only be a enemy of yourself. As God is LOVE. America was founded on Freemasonry so honestly go move to Darfur, or Sierra Leonne cause youre not being Patriotic or grateful at all. Are you going to support the many Christian Churches that still preach the HELL doctrine? thats the most Erroneous ugly lie of them all. You're probably a low degree Mason yet you pretend to know the motives and secrets of Freemasonry. You are deceived just like the rest. Talk to me if you ever reach 32nd or 33rd degree and you find out the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're probably a low degree Mason yet you pretend to know the motives and secrets of Freemasonry. You are deceived just like the rest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1126787Talk to me if you ever reach 32nd or 33rd degree and you find out the truth. The 32nd, 33rd Degree is the Rebis, do you know what it means? The double headed eagle? (Im not going to reveal the meaning here. ) Nothing to be paranoid of. Paranoia Is only within yourself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1126847 United States 10/11/2010 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're probably a low degree Mason yet you pretend to know the motives and secrets of Freemasonry. You are deceived just like the rest. Quoting: HERMES (AZOTH)Talk to me if you ever reach 32nd or 33rd degree and you find out the truth. The 32nd, 33rd Degree is the Rebis, do you know what it means? The double headed eagle? (Im not going to reveal the meaning here. ) Nothing to be paranoid of. Paranoia Is only within yourself. See that's the thing with you Freemasons, you love your secrets. You guys believe you have hidden knowledge that must be kept from us profane and that you're better than us because of your knowledge. I do believe the highest degrees may have some special knowledge but what you lower degrees know could be read in any book about Freemasonry or Wikipedia. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 10/11/2010 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're probably a low degree Mason yet you pretend to know the motives and secrets of Freemasonry. You are deceived just like the rest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1126847Talk to me if you ever reach 32nd or 33rd degree and you find out the truth. The 32nd, 33rd Degree is the Rebis, do you know what it means? The double headed eagle? (Im not going to reveal the meaning here. ) Nothing to be paranoid of. Paranoia Is only within yourself. See that's the thing with you Freemasons, you love your secrets. You guys believe you have hidden knowledge that must be kept from us profane and that you're better than us because of your knowledge. I do believe the highest degrees may have some special knowledge but what you lower degrees know could be read in any book about Freemasonry or Wikipedia. The initiations are meant to be experienced. Its profane to say you can simply read it. its like telling someone whose never been in a car to write about a car ride by reading about it. We dont speak of it, cause it has to be experienced, Thats why they call it INITIATION. in the Mysteries. Its allegory of God, Nature and the Evolution of the Soul. Im not writing from anything I read, rather than I write what I EXPERIENCED Big Difference. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 997260 Canada 10/11/2010 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its an insult to capitalism hidden in a Mc Donalds Joke, where you go up to the drive through and order a side of thighs (side of fries) the two towers, a fur burger (a Hamburger) the pentagon and a hot cherry bendover to eat out in the park on Sunday (hot cherry sunday) the plane that went down in th bush. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090228 Ireland 10/11/2010 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're probably a low degree Mason yet you pretend to know the motives and secrets of Freemasonry. You are deceived just like the rest. Quoting: HERMES (AZOTH)Talk to me if you ever reach 32nd or 33rd degree and you find out the truth. The 32nd, 33rd Degree is the Rebis, do you know what it means? The double headed eagle? (Im not going to reveal the meaning here. ) Nothing to be paranoid of. Paranoia Is only within yourself. See that's the thing with you Freemasons, you love your secrets. You guys believe you have hidden knowledge that must be kept from us profane and that you're better than us because of your knowledge. I do believe the highest degrees may have some special knowledge but what you lower degrees know could be read in any book about Freemasonry or Wikipedia. The initiations are meant to be experienced. Its profane to say you can simply read it. its like telling someone whose never been in a car to write about a car ride by reading about it. We dont speak of it, cause it has to be experienced, Thats why they call it INITIATION. in the Mysteries. Its allegory of God, Nature and the Evolution of the Soul. Im not writing from anything I read, rather than I write what I EXPERIENCEDBig Difference. |
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