Christians Are to be Changed into the Same Spiritual Image as God's First Begotten Son

so ur saying Jesus is the Arch Angel Michael?

I wouldn't bet on it, the christian religion isn't anywhere righteousness enough for recognition from any sort of divine intelligences!!
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

Of course. It's the truth. Check it out and don't listen to your false teachers.

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It's not about religion, but a personal relationship with Jesus Christ who is fully able to confer righteousness upon those who seek to do His Will.

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So we're gonna see a bunch of long-haired, bearded, sandal-wearing guys in white robes all over town now??? That's just great...

LOL, you mean I need to change the color of my robe now?
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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

I looked the scriptures up and want to understand what you are saying here.

What confuses me is why the different names? 1 John 5:7 says that The Father, "The Word" and the Holy Spirit are one. Then Mary is told by the Angel Gabriel that God's Son is to be called "Jesus" who is one with The Father so it stands to reason that He is being referred to as "The Word" in the verse about the Trinity. Now you are saying He is called "Michael the Arch Angel" in heaven but I thought all the Angels were created by God so if God and Jesus are one and Jesus is also "Michael", why is Michael referred to as an "Arch Angel", why not refer to Him as God's only Son in heaven as well?

I am trying to understand and praying for discernment. But if you could help answer the question about why the many names that would get me off to a good start in clearing up my confusion.

Jesus is the Son of Man AND the Son of God.

He is not the Son of Christians.

And you don't have to be a member of a certain club to get in despite what their gatekeepers, scriptural lawyers and self-referential texts tell you.

Some points to consider:

-All the angels in Heaven are subject to Michael the Archangel in Heaven, while upon Earth He is referred to as Jesus as He was in a physical vessel.

-Paul was taken into Paradise and knew Who Jesus was, for
He said, You received me an angel of God as was Jesus.

-Every being in Heaven has the same spirit - an angelic spirit.

-Everyone in Heaven is a child of God. Jesus happened to be the first begotten Son. You're either of the children of God or you're a child of the devil.

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how could anyone tell the difference? nobody recognized jesus but for a few that god chose.

I agree with you, Scribe.

Rev 3:12 (bold, italics, underline-- mine)

"Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my NEW NAME."


His name will only be 'new' to us, but not new to heaven; namely, Michael.

I want to make a bet with you...
And the bet is this....
If I can prove you wrong, you stay away from GLP.
And If I cannot probe you wrong, I will stay way.
Care to take that bet?
You and Pasha that little witch have done some much damage here on glp it is not funny.
So, care to take that challenge?
I doubt you would and I doubt if I won the bet that you would stay away.
I want to quote a couple of verse's for ya...
This is for you Pasha....And the Scriber can eat it too..
2 John 9" Whosoever trangresseth and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ (hath not) God;He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the "father and the son".
10" If there come any unto , and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed."

11" For he that biddeth him God speed is a partaker of his evil deeds."

So Pasha, you just became the same as Scribe. You are now a partaker of Scribes evil deeds.
I am going to prove both of you that you have not idea what your talking about. And Rev. 2:17 is one of my favorite verse's in the whole bible. Why? Because 99% of Christian scholars don't know that new name. And when I teach them the new name, they rejoice.
So we all get to see today what side you two are one. And it is not God's side that is for sure.
So, care to dance and take up the challenge there Scribe.
Put it on the line or move over and let a real scholar share the truth of the Word.

Got you both caught now, that is for sure.

So if we are not a Cristian, we don't count?

if jesus came to you and said, "hi, im Jesus"

would you believe him?

Can anyone tell me the difference from the word "King" and the word "prince" ?

Which one is higher?

Gee, in all the ancient writings, and in all the books I have read, the King is higher than a "prince".

I am setting up Pasha and Scribe for the big fall.

linear chronology is the only difference between a prince and a king

Come on Scribe the Kenite.

You seed of Satan, lets rock!

Matthew 23:2 "Saying, the "SCRIBES" and the Pharisees sit in the Moses seat."

Yes Scribe the Kenite and Pasha the Pharisee is working overtime now.

Everyone go read 1 Chronicles chapter 2 verse 55.
These are the Kenites, the scribes that took over the seat of Moses.
And this modern day "Scribe" thinks he can lie over and over, make false prophecies and not be held accountable by God.
Come on you Scriber, I want to prove just how ignorant you really on when it comes to the Word of God.
Waiting...

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Let's see now...who could possibly be this egotistical..?

Is that you, Little Star? LOL !!

WELL , WHAT SAY YE PASHA & SCRIBE, ANSWER THE MAN.


ARE DO YOU FEAR THOSE WITH THE TRUE SPIRIT.

I TOO HAVE LISTEN TO YOUR FALSE TEACHINGS ENOUGH!

Yea, I am little star, and you just upset me to no end.
YOu take my sureness and put egotistical to sooth your own soul. Instead of punching out Ad Hominem expressions, why not answer my challenge?
OH, I Know why? Because your ignorant and your so afraid I will make fool out of you for worshiping Satan.
I am going to sign in, because I want everyone to see this false lying Kenite for what he truly is. A seed of Satan, and you worship this Kenite and we all see it all the time.

Don't click on the thread. No one is forcing you to read it.

As for the other anon idiot, he has already been answered.

The answers are in the Bible. Michael is the Captain of the Hosts, the only angel that has ever accepted worship. His name means "who is like God".

Although, I'm sure all of this is wasted on you.

The OP wont listen . He and his false prophet friend have been exposed many times on this site yet he keeps rebelling , following his imagination . He has been warned so it is between him and God now .

See, now I am signed in.
Lets rock you garbage dumps!

You want to play with names, come on and gets some..

Your very subject is so bogus it is not funny.

WE shall never be in the same image as the first begotten Son.
We shall change into our spiritual bodies, but never be the same image as Christ.

All humans that have lived, that shall live in the flesh are all the same age spiritually.
But Christ is older than we are, so how can we be changed into the same image spiritually as Christ?
Even Gen. 1 calls you both liars. How so? Spiritually read the first 6 verse's and see if your spiritual eye can pick on the DAY and who is that DAY?

It is our duty as Christians to expose you false prophets and stop you corrupting other Christians minds .

Jer 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.

Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

You have been warned .

I disagree with your conclusions OP... Do you now worship an Angel?

Well since your chicken shit Scribe refuses' to answer, I will go ahead and make a fool out of both of you idio's.

John 1:1 " In the beginning was the "WORD", and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Got that so far mister Scriber the Kenite?

Now what does Rev. 2:17 say? NEW name in that verse right?

John 1:14 " And the "Word" WAS MADE FLESH, and that dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth."
So, in Rev. 2:17 we see it says new name. Well it is not Michael because Michael is an arch angel. Christ is NOT an arch angel and never was and never will be. Arch angels are created by God.
Rev. chapter 19:12" His eyes were as flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns; and He had a name WRITTEN THAT NO MAN KNEW, BUT HE HIMSELF."

Rev.19:13 "And He was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood; and His Name is called "THE WORD OF GOD"

Rev. 19:16 " ANd He hath on His vesture and on His thigh a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."

So ,there you have it all in one simple little posting.
A "prince" is not a king.
So what is the NEW NAME NOW you two Kenites?
Take your false teachings and shove it up the nose of your daddy, the biggest liar of them all, Satan.
John 8:44 " ye are of your father, the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. Hw was the first murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar, and the father of it."

So you both being a Kenite, why would you not lie and make false prophecies, you act just like your father the Devil.

Kiss my grits.

Jeremiah 23:30" Therefore behold, I am against the prophets, saith the Lord, that steal MY WORDS every one from his neighbor."

And boy are you two going to get it.... Right in front of all of us. I would be repenting if I was you, if you claim to be a real child of God. I doubt you will, you could careless who you offend.

Last Edited by Little Star on 10/27/2010 03:51 PM

Wow, Scribe, who is the false teacher with this message??

How Scribe works.
See he is not man enough to step forward when challenged.
He has to go and run now and he must search the scriptures to try and validate his mis-guided teachings.

He still can't see the NEW NAME and I presented it right straight foreword no head games.
Yet I am blasted as egotistical in nature.

Boldness in the Word is not egotistical.
But Amos 8:11 fits both of these Kenites.

God's first begotten son was NOT the Lord Jesus, this is a major error in Christianity. THAT son that was "Lord jesus" was the Creator Son of Nebadon.

The Creator Son's parents are the Father and the Eternal Son (only BEGOTTEN Son of the Father, per se), the Eternal Son cannot incarnate anywhere outside of the Central Universe of Havona.

The LORD MICHAEL< the CREATOR SON has already returned and I chat with him daily. No spiritual Satan will be coming up that is an incredible oxymoron. Christ MIchael the Creator Son is NOT Michael the Archangel either. This is all a lot of goo in the bible that has been mistranslated and since man does not know the "structure" of the higher realms and the administration by such, he cannot in any way make any sense of of this stuff.


READ the Urantia Book, at www.urantia.org. This below is a HUGE HUGE mess. The battle of armegeddon is no more than society going down the tubes as there are too many without knowledge of god. That is ALL it is.