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We are Not What We Once Were...and Not Yet Decided What We are...but We are Remembering

 
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thanks OP, never knew how to do that!


Real easy. When you paste the link into the reply, highlight the link, then click the youtube button. Then post! Easy

Interesting video BTW...
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Ok, here goes nothing...



See what you think of this one! Hopefully, it will post right!
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I think I get it.
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Welcome to the seventh veil!!

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How do you know you're not just being duped?
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How do you know you're not just being duped?
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Duped by who? Myself?
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I got something like that too...

7 Seals = 7 Chakras
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Spirals Thread: Spirals



Look at the hair pattern on the human scalp.

As above so below.

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thats one of my favorite examples. spirals. everywhere. flower of life-seed of life- sacred geometric patterns springing forth governed by unseen laws which can only be altered to some degree but never surpassed..... this will alter from time to time..w e are inside of an aletering stage which will transform things as we know it ... it will be hard transforming but better in the long run.twwwooo cennntssss
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How do you know you're not just being duped?


Duped by who? Myself?
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Yes
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hf
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How do you know you're not just being duped?


Duped by who? Myself?


Yes
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What makes you think any of us who are musing these thoughts are duped?

What are your thoughts? What is it you think is duplicitous? What do you hold as the truth about our past?

Thanks.

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hey sickscent

“My reality is just as valid as your reality” is not universally true."

human self (memory) is maintained within our local environment

our local environment (memory of self) eternally was within an anode glow (golden age) which limited our ability to know anything about the wider universe since we could not see stars.

that environment became as it is now and we are not yet peaceful with our new local environment (memory of self)

we are not what we were and not yet decided what we are

et`s possessing the ability to reach us enjoy the comfort of memory of self within our local environment

it is hoped that humankinds requirement of sense of self is strong enough to desire contact with others whom possess matching sense of self

in anticipation of that hope, focusing humankinds attention on the ingredients of what self contains became important within disclosure
Thread: Spiritual Rapture, Dream States, Creative Insurges - Schumann Resonance and the Natural Frequencies of the Human Brain...and the Incoming (Page 11)

disclosure is awareness of self (memory information)


My thought patterns on specific concepts that the ancients put forth, that in turn have become constructs of our reality, have changed in the last year.

Imagine, knowing your spirit while being physical, knowing what is beyond physical death, being in communion with not only your past, but others past...being in communion with the universe...no disease, no hunger, no violence, no lies, no distrust in the human condition...rather, everything about your spiritual/physical family of beings is pure...nothing missing...the veil is not only gone, it had yet to even come into existence.

Back then, energies began leaving, and the veil was coming. Some began thinking of what exactly that might entail, though they could not imagine it as it truly would become...because the veil...the forgetting...the separation had yet to make mankind fall into tragedy, trauma...fear. Imagine...fear was not even in their reality...they were connected to everything. It was the Golden Age.

As cycles spin round, spiral in form as the universe decrees, the increased energies that birthed their Golden Age - their own version of the Fluff that they resided in - began falling, spinning away from the solar system into mythology, receding into the aether behind.

We spiritual beings called humans were entering the darkness at the same rate that the Fluff fell away, falling away from knowing the universe, falling far from the comfort of God's communion...A new name took hold...The Fallen. And the process of forgetting our souls began...of being separated from the divine, of the eternal fall from being a conscious spiritual knowing being...to being utterly alone...a massive scarring took place within our collective pysche. During the falling process, when we were in the throes of forgetting what we are, we scrambled to remember what we were losing...Memories carved in stone, raised as monuments...frozen memories defying time. Some held on longer (they had yet to forget, but in their horror, they witnessed others already fallen) but knew that soon we all were going to lose contact with our souls...and so ensued massive trauma, something much worse than death, not only a tragedy to the human condition, but to our divine souls...the horror that was to come...the killing fields that would soak the world through...

They knew that when the Fluff left (the interstellar cloud, though they thought of it differently, of course) we would FORGET...so they wrote to the future...I Ching, 'religious texts', pyramids, secret knowledge, calendars, etc...someday they knew that there would come a day (the universe decrees the spinning of the spiral, after all) when a new Golden Age would surface...and just as our memory once fell away with a receding interstellar cloud, memory would rise once more, like a surging wave, an all encompassing spirit arriving on the cloud of God...

So, in attempts to tell us how to live properly, one with all, without killing/stealing/lying...without fear...they shouted from the past.

But there was a problem...They did not know how far reality would change. When going from one age of darkness, to an age of light, and vice-versa, 'reality' is different...it changes...so confusion and misunderstanding and convolusion reigned as one age living in a fading light, tried to communicate to the coming age of darkness.

But they shouted as loud as they could...on stone, on copper, vellum in sealed vase, in symbols, in writing, books, in visions, in dreams, in myths, in prophecies, on pyramids, on monoliths, in calendars, in the alignment of stars, in maps, tombs, in the very structures of their civilizations...

God, how much louder do they have to be...?

Imagine the fear that must have gripped them when the forgetting began to accomplish all of the above...all for us...for the first time in an eternal spirit's reality, the true unknown lay stretched out in front of them (knowing that they would be us) for thousands and thousands of years...with NO WAY OUT...not because there was no way out, but merely because we forgot there was a way.

We are finally beginning to remember again. We are remembering that we were never left all alone...we are remembering that there has always been a way.

Its been a long time, hasn't it...?
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As always, you Rock!!!!

hf
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Back then, energies began leaving, and the veil was coming.

They knew that when the Fluff left (the interstellar cloud, though they thought of it differently, of course) we would FORGET...so they wrote to the future...I Ching, 'religious texts', pyramids, secret knowledge, calendars, etc...someday they knew that there would come a day (the universe decrees the spinning of the spiral, after all) when a new Golden Age would surface...and just as our memory once fell away with a receding interstellar cloud, memory would rise once more, like a surging wave, an all encompassing spirit arriving on the cloud of God...
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Sickscent, I really enjoy your posts. Like many here, I too had an awakening and numerous spiritual experiences since then.

My experience was without a doubt a "remembering". It's the only way to describe it - "memories" flooded back into me in an instant and I remembered ancient teachings and truths. Most of these past structures, like the pyramids were actually structures created by the keepers of the mystery religions. They kept these secrets for both good and ill.

I hope you won't mind hearing my own take on the forgetting. I think it's important because virtually every religion teaches this idea - of how we became the fallen.

The key that all religions and religious teachers stress is that it was when relying on logic and rational thought thinking took over - that is when we began to forget. It was a gradual thing, since even enlightened people use their intellect when necessary.

Rather than relying on our internal knowing, we relied on logic. This reliance on logic naturally caused separation. It allowed us to discern right from wrong, good from bad - and plunge us into dualistic thinking.

Here's what teachers (past and present) have to say on this subject:

The sole necessity for Self-Realisation is purity of mind. The only impurity of mind is thought. —Tripura Rahasya 16:48

"If you are attached to your thinking, then everything has name and form. This is the world of opposites."—Zen Master Seung Sahn

All that we are arises with our thoughts.
With our thoughts we make the world...

How can a troubled mind understand the Way?
Your worst enemy cannot harm you as much
as your own thoughts unguarded.

—Dhammapada

"Thinking gives off smoke to prove the existence of fire. A mystic sits inside the burning. There are wonderful shapes in rising smoke that imagination loves to watch. But it's a mistake to leave the fire for that filmy sight. Stay here at the flame's core." —Islamic mystic Jalal al-Din Muhammad Rumi (b.1207-d.1273)

"You do not realize that if you cease thought and forget cognition, Buddha will spontaneously appear..."—(Zen) Master Huangbo (Obaku) of the Tang dynasty (b.618-d.906)

"Truth revealed [is] when the mind has stopped thinking."—Sri Ramana Maharshi

Even the Bible makes it clear that it was the "serpent" (that is to say, "logic", the ability to decipher) that led to mankind's knowledge of good and evil (the opposites)—which in turn caused the fall of man:

'You will not surely die,' the serpent said to the woman. 'For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.'

—Genesis 3:4-5

Sumerian linguist Zecharia Sitchin wrote:

"The biblical word for “serpent” is nahash, which does mean "snake." But the word comes from the root word NHSH, and which means “to decipher, to find out.”

This is the hidden meaning of the serpent - our ability to see good and evil, to "figure it out". This lead to dualism:

"Truly dualism is the root of suffering. There is no other remedy for it than the realisation that all this that we see is unreal, and that I am the one stainless reality, consisting of consciousness." — Ashtavakra Gita 2.16

"When You make the two one, and when You make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when You make the male and the female one, so that the male will not be male nor the female female ... then will You enter the Kingdom." —Gospel of Thomas (22)
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Inertia....it reflects the profound unity of the cosmos.

What keeps matter at rest or in uniform motion in the same straight line unless some external force acts upon it?

When you take a hairpin turn, what is the force that pulls you to the side?

It is believed currently that it is all the distant matter in the universe that constrains movement....the All acting on the part.

Niels Bohr once said :
" A great truth is a truth whose opposite is also a great truth".


The Part can act on the All.
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For those who haven't seen this video yet, please do.

It IS that time.

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Back then, energies began leaving, and the veil was coming.

They knew that when the Fluff left (the interstellar cloud, though they thought of it differently, of course) we would FORGET...so they wrote to the future...I Ching, 'religious texts', pyramids, secret knowledge, calendars, etc...someday they knew that there would come a day (the universe decrees the spinning of the spiral, after all) when a new Golden Age would surface...and just as our memory once fell away with a receding interstellar cloud, memory would rise once more, like a surging wave, an all encompassing spirit arriving on the cloud of God...


Sickscent, I really enjoy your posts. Like many here, I too had an awakening and numerous spiritual experiences since then.

My experience was without a doubt a "remembering". It's the only way to describe it - "memories" flooded back into me in an instant and I remembered ancient teachings and truths. Most of these past structures, like the pyramids were actually structures created by the keepers of the mystery religions. They kept these secrets for both good and ill.

I hope you won't mind hearing my own take on the forgetting. I think it's important because virtually every religion teaches this idea - of how we became the fallen.

The key that all religions and religious teachers stress is that it was when relying on logic and rational thought thinking took over - that is when we began to forget. It was a gradual thing, since even enlightened people use their intellect when necessary.

Rather than relying on our internal knowing, we relied on logic. This reliance on logic naturally caused separation. It allowed us to discern right from wrong, good from bad - and plunge us into dualistic thinking.

Here's what teachers (past and present) have to say on this subject:

The sole necessity for Self-Realisation is purity of mind. The only impurity of mind is thought. —Tripura Rahasya 16:48

"If you are attached to your thinking, then everything has name and form. This is the world of opposites."—Zen Master Seung Sahn

All that we are arises with our thoughts.
With our thoughts we make the world...

How can a troubled mind understand the Way?
Your worst enemy cannot harm you as much
as your own thoughts unguarded.

—Dhammapada

"Thinking gives off smoke to prove the existence of fire. A mystic sits inside the burning. There are wonderful shapes in rising smoke that imagination loves to watch. But it's a mistake to leave the fire for that filmy sight. Stay here at the flame's core." —Islamic mystic Jalal al-Din Muhammad Rumi (b.1207-d.1273)

"You do not realize that if you cease thought and forget cognition, Buddha will spontaneously appear..."—(Zen) Master Huangbo (Obaku) of the Tang dynasty (b.618-d.906)

"Truth revealed [is] when the mind has stopped thinking."—Sri Ramana Maharshi

Even the Bible makes it clear that it was the "serpent" (that is to say, "logic", the ability to decipher) that led to mankind's knowledge of good and evil (the opposites)—which in turn caused the fall of man:

'You will not surely die,' the serpent said to the woman. 'For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.'

—Genesis 3:4-5

Sumerian linguist Zecharia Sitchin wrote:

"The biblical word for “serpent” is nahash, which does mean "snake." But the word comes from the root word NHSH, and which means “to decipher, to find out.”

This is the hidden meaning of the serpent - our ability to see good and evil, to "figure it out". This lead to dualism:

"Truly dualism is the root of suffering. There is no other remedy for it than the realisation that all this that we see is unreal, and that I am the one stainless reality, consisting of consciousness." — Ashtavakra Gita 2.16

"When You make the two one, and when You make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the above like the below, and when You make the male and the female one, so that the male will not be male nor the female female ... then will You enter the Kingdom." —Gospel of Thomas (22)
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Cool posst AC, thanks
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Inertia....it reflects the profound unity of the cosmos.

What keeps matter at rest or in uniform motion in the same straight line unless some external force acts upon it?

When you take a hairpin turn, what is the force that pulls you to the side?

It is believed currently that it is all the distant matter in the universe that constrains movement....the All acting on the part.

Niels Bohr once said :
" A great truth is a truth whose opposite is also a great truth".



The Part can act on the All.
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Great quote.

Been thinking a lot this last year about cupid. The action and intent produce a reaction and a response. But, not from the Karmic perspective alone.

The figurative arrow shoots in both directions - two way Love in the instant and in the response.
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I've learned so much from your threads SS, so I know others will benefit as well. The scientific findings gives this theory foundation, which is a plus.

We are reaching, or have reached the pinnacle of experience, the tipping point. Our true power is returning, and unless you become conscious of it, the world will simply fall apart before your eyes.

Our thoughts and imagination are so much more powerful during these times. Take care of them.

hf

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A must see of who we were, are and shall be once again: [link to www.youtube.com]



thanks OP, never knew how to do that!
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Cool ...
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I've learned so much from your threads SS, so I know others will benefit as well. The scientific findings gives this theory foundation, which is a plus.

We are reaching, or have reached the pinnacle of experience, the tipping point. Our true power is returning, and unless you become conscious of it, the world will simply fall apart before your eyes.

Our thoughts and imagination are so much more powerful during these times. Take care of them.

hf
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This is where I believe we are at as well. It is hard to believe, but at the same time, there is so much that points to this truly being the time.
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So Ss, cut the bull and just say what exactly we're remembering and what exactly it was that we were and how we can possibly be that again. You say a lot without saying anything. Flowery poetic words are nice to read but there is no substance behind them.

No offense intended, just getting tired of the same old bs, get to the point.
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Thank you Drunvallo

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Goodbye, halcyon days...

 There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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So Ss, cut the bull and just say what exactly we're remembering and what exactly it was that we were and how we can possibly be that again. You say a lot without saying anything. Flowery poetic words are nice to read but there is no substance behind them.

No offense intended, just getting tired of the same old bs, get to the point.
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Xenus, just because you do not have any fucked up/strange experiences, doesn't mean other people don't. I've told you before, ignore my metaphysical/esoteric threads since you do not ascribe to those aspects.

I have many personal experiences that I am nearly positive you would call BS on. They are part of my reality, and obviously not part of your reality. I don't know the exact reasons why this is, but that is the way it is.

I know you require 'proof', scientific validation, etc., but on certain topics, I cannot give it to you.

Obviously, a writing like this is not geared toward the scientific minded. You can call bullshit all you want, I don't mind, but there ARE experiences out there that are spiritual/soul related. Don't deny other people's experiences just because you cannot scientifically validate them, or have yet to experience them yourself.

PS...I never take offense at your words Xenus...we're all good on that.
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Thank you Drunvallo

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Only Me, does Drunvallo speak of it being this way?
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So Ss, cut the bull and just say what exactly we're remembering and what exactly it was that we were and how we can possibly be that again. You say a lot without saying anything. Flowery poetic words are nice to read but there is no substance behind them.

No offense intended, just getting tired of the same old bs, get to the point.


Xenus, just because you do not have any fucked up/strange experiences, doesn't mean other people don't. I've told you before, ignore my metaphysical/esoteric threads since you do not ascribe to those aspects.

I have many personal experiences that I am nearly positive you would call BS on. They are part of my reality, and obviously not part of your reality. I don't know the exact reasons why this is, but that is the way it is.

I know you require 'proof', scientific validation, etc., but on certain topics, I cannot give it to you.

Obviously, a writing like this is not geared toward the scientific minded. You can call bullshit all you want, I don't mind, but there ARE experiences out there that are spiritual/soul related. Don't deny other people's experiences just because you cannot scientifically validate them, or have yet to experience them yourself.

PS...I never take offense at your words Xenus...we're all good on that.
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...you seem to think that your own 'strange/fucked up' experiences put you in a position above/ahead of others...

...maybe you should talk to other contactees only...if they are the only ones that can grasp what youre trying to say...

...because that seems to be your opinion...or how it comes off...

...has it ever occurred to you that some strange/fucked up experiences might be just as valid if not more valid then your own?

...if its really only for your benefit to understand your experiences..and not for humanity as a whole...then why post ...
:gsfhibiscus: ...Where there's a Will...

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SickScent this is a great thread...just got done reading all of it hf

A must see of who we were, are and shall be once again: [link to www.youtube.com]



thanks OP, never knew how to do that!



Cool ...
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This video is one of the first I ever saw about the angelic humans...thanks HarmonyH for quoting it.



This is another good one. If you have not seen it yet check it out it's pretty powerful. hf
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Thank you Drunvallo

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Only Me, does Drunvallo speak of it being this way?
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Exactly that way. that we are remembering.
Goodbye, halcyon days...

 There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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Goodbye, halcyon days...

 There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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...you seem to think that your own 'strange/fucked up' experiences put you in a position above/ahead of others...

...maybe you should talk to other contactees only...if they are the only ones that can grasp what youre trying to say...

...because that seems to be your opinion...or how it comes off...

...has it ever occurred to you that some strange/fucked up experiences might be just as valid if not more valid then your own?

...if its really only for your benefit to understand your experiences..and not for humanity as a whole...then why post ...
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This thread is not about being a contactee. You only got that because of my PM to you, obviously, as it is not mentioned in this thread.

You are reading way too much into it. Where do you get that I say my experiences put me in a position above others? I have NEVER stated anything like that, as I don't think that.

If I post something on GLP, and someone has a problem that I say I am a contactee, then they can change the channel. I NEVER said that contactees are the only ones that can grasp what I am saying. These are your thoughts, not mine.

Why would you think that it has never occurred to me that some people's experiences are just as valid or more valid than mine? OF COURSE THERE IS... I don't get what your agenda is now. I make one comment to Xenus, and that is all you focus on...

Why do you post things if it does not benefit humanity as a whole?

You know, I think I am just going to ban you from my threads. You are fixated on thinking that I have some huge ego or something. Do you notice that instead of commenting on the SUBJECT of my threads, you constantly harp on my giant ego?
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 There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.

There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened.
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