The Mufon Investigator who stated "Lake Erie UFO's" Case closed: OH, UFOs are planes Just resigned!

So where are all the people who believed what Tom Wertman had to say now?

Where is the well Mufon said they are Planes so they must be aircraft people now?

What does it feel like to know you had the wool pulled over your eyes and you bought it hook, line, and sinker?

They are here. Get used to it :-)

Peace,
Michael Lee Hill

Now perhaps check out the following with new eyes.

I have filmed these UFO's over Lake Erie for Years now. My footage has been featured on The History Channel, Fox News, CBS news, Coast to Coast, Rense.com, hbccufo.org and in the feature films UFO's Unplugged with Dan Aykroyd, and David Sereda's latest film From Here to Andromeda.

I have posted a recent CBS news broadcast in which I was interviewed regarding the Lake Erie UFO's.

Here is the actual Lake Erie UFO clip shot on Sept. 18, 2010


My footage of these Lake Erie UFO's which has went Viral and has been viewed over one million times on Youtube.


My footage and story has also been recently featured on Mexico's equivalent of 20/20 by internationally known Jaime Maussan. If there is no translation, watch the clip on youtube and press "CC" Button for an English translation.

Jaime Maussan - UFO sightings over Lake Erie Pt. I

Jaime Maussan - UFO sightings over Lake Erie Pt. II


There is the biggest UFO story unfolding here over Lake Erie, possibly ever!

Strange lights are appearing again over the lake with the creepy name - 150 years of paranormal history?

On a brisk, fall night, the crescent moon over Lake Erie is a blood-red orange. In the background, dark waves lap rhythmically onto the beach. It is picturesque in many ways. But the serenity is about to be shattered. Out some unknown distance over the lake, several pulsating lights chillingly materialize from nowhere.

Video...


The scene was captured on video, put on Youtube, and downloaded hundreds-of-thousands of times. The lake front is not far from the hardscrabble city of Cleveland, Ohio, and the lights are described as “orbs”. Out of thin air they appear over the lake, and sometimes witnessed near a local nuclear power plant.

Apparently, the“Lake Erie Lights” have returned once again, and they have locals talking. Some loudly, some in hushed tones. But some are wondering whether these recent waves of UFO sightings over the lake with the creepy name is the real thing or a hoax. If the new lights and their videos are indeed a hoax, it would be a shame for UFOlogy because Lake Erie has a long history of mind-boggling paranormal activity.

To start, the lake is named after a Native American tribe called the “Erielhonan”, meaning the people with “long tails”. They were also called the “Cat” or “Raccoon” people. What’s more, the region was a hot-bead of abolitionism leading up to the Civil War, a time when the locals on the highlands south of the city told outsiders beware of the lake’s “Wizard Lights”. Some thought they were distressed ships on fire, but daybreak revealed no wreckage, dead bodies or survivors.

One hundred and fifty years later, on a cold winter night in 1988, a Triangle UFO described as large as “the Goodyear Blimp” appeared on the lake. Stunned witnesses said at first the craft seemed to be struggling to get off a sheet of ice that was not far from the lake’s shore. As a crowd of witnesses grows, the craft sets loose a squadron of smaller, triangular-shaped craft that buzz the witnesses.

Here is recent footage of a smaller, triangular-shaped craft that I filmed in the exact same location as mentioned above


A local Coast Guard team sees the entire episode unfold right in front of their eyes, but within hours the team is apparently strong-armed into silence by military officers from Ohio’s Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. What’s more, the civilians who do see the oblong craft will soon have their homes buzzed by an alleged unmarked black helicopter.

It’s one of the best-documented UFO cases in the history of the US. Twenty years later, one of the Coast Guard personnel there that night is still not sure what he saw – or is he?

Since 2004, CUP, the Cleveland Ufology Project, has documented 40 sightings from northeast Ohio and from the miles of Lake Erie beaches. CUP was founded in 1952 and, fittingly, is one of the oldest UFO-spotting groups in the country, if not the planet. The latest wave of Lake Erie Lights took place at the beginning of 2010.

Here is the video...


A witness saw a triangular-shaped craft with amber lights vanish over the lake. Then for ten nights in a row, witnesses said a mysterious light began appearing over Lake Erie near Cleveland – showing up at around 7:30 pm and zipping around in the darkness for about two hours before disappearing. MSNBC covered the fresh wave, even going live to Cleveland for witness interviews.

Here is the MSNBC Story


The UFO sightings at Euclid, Ohio, continues now for the ninth day in a row, as reported by MSNBC reporter David Schuster.

With the news spreading on this consistent sighting over more than one week, people are apparently camping out along the banks of Lake Erie to watch.

The UFO is a single ball of light in the night sky that is showing movement and witnesses at the scene say that the object is changing color.

Schuster interviewed British Ufologist Nick Pope for this report, who agrees that the sighting is very unusual. Schuster contacted both the FAA and the military, and cannot find a manmade explanation for this sighting.

Pope says that further investigation must be done to rule out other natural or mannade explanations.

Friday night on The Alien Agenda radio, both Eugene Erlikh and Michael Lee Hill were featured on the show. Both had filmed unknown multicolored orb/craft over Lake Erie and coincidentally live within 5 minutes of each other in Cleveland. Michael's videos go further back to 2006 and Eugene's are more recent.

On April 6, 2010 Michael and Eugene unknowingly and simultaneously filmed similar multicolored orb/craft on the same night and at the same time or within minutes of each other. Both videographers made this discovery just yesterday as well.

According to Erlikh, at approximately 6:45pm EST, on Thursday night (April 8, 2010) a private telephone call came into his residence. Eugene answered and the man on the other end assumed to know it was Eugene and called him by name. The man identified himself as a member of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. He did give his name and email that is, in fact, linked to the BAASS.ORG domain name. He asked Eugene a number of questions pertaining to the sightings over Lake Erie. The man then demanded Eugene give up the exact coordinates of the location the lights are appearing. When Eugene questioned the man, he stated he knew the lights were not terrestrial or from this planet and there's big money involved in obtaining that technology!

"In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft.As an investigator I must be completly objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience.MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions." - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator

A similar light was captured in May, and all videos were posted on YouTube, which has become the clearing house for fresh UFO footage, whether legitimate or bullcrap.

“It’s a hot spot,” declares local Ufologist Aaron Clark about the beaches of Lake Erie near Cleveland. “Some believe there’s a UFO base on the bottom of the lake.” One thing is certain, the Lake Erie UFO hype is real: Literally millions have viewed Internet videos of Lake Erie UFOs.

The Cleveland Office of Homeland Security has, to an unknown degree, investigated the sightings and perhaps and probably continues to do so. In 2007, an “orb” was videotaped over the Key Bank Tower during a peace rally, and the incident made it on the CBS nightly news.

CBS Nightly News Video...


In 2010, the Cleveland office of Homeland Security refused to comment to UFOcasebook.com on whether they were investigating the recent sightings, even though it has investigated lights over the lake before.

“If you take all of the people in Ohio who are interested in this subject, I bet half of them are from that part of the state,” says Ohio-based William E. Jones, state director for Ohio MUFON, or Mutual UFO Network. “A lot of folks up there have seen things over the years. More people are interested up there. I don’t know why.”

Historically, the total number of eyewitness accounts is unknown because there are so many of them. Stories of “strange ships” on the lake have been circulating since at least the 1800s. Ask anyone who lives near the lake, and either they’ve seen something odd, or know of someone who has. For some, what they saw will remain the mystery of a lifetime.

For a few others, it will take over their life. As it did to Michael Lee Hill, a musician who lives just feet away from the beaches of Lake Erie in the Cleveland suburb of Eastlake, which is where the 1988 Triangle UFO the size of a “Goodyear Blimp” was sighted.

Roughly five years ago, Hill was walking down the beach and something caught his attention out the corner of his eye. Hill told this journalist he witnessed a craft of light hovering and pulsating over the shoreline. The following is a written account of what he saw, posted on a web site devoted to the paranormal: “It was the most amazing thing I have ever seen, I did not get that one on tape but it sparked my interest in trying to film them, but before I get into that, let me tell you what this craft looked like,” he wrote.

“It looked like a flat platform made of glowing plasma red, you could make out the edges very well, they were not blurry. On top of this platform sat what looked like a glowing sun, kind of like a ball of plasma that was around the size of a small plane, The ball was about 1/3 the length of the bottom part. Just picture a line with a ball on top and that is what it looked like, the line part about ten feet thick I would say.”

After that first encounter six years ago, the visitations began in earnest, he said. Soon after, he started taking a video camera to the lake front. Since then he’s captured dozens of “orbs of Light” and bright lights that appear to be silently hovering over Lake Erie. He’s downloaded many of his videos to YouTube. Videos that caught the attention of David Sereda, a world-renown UFOlogist.

Sereda directed Dan Akroyd: Unplugged on UFOs, and in his latest documentary, From Here To Andromeda, he poses the question, “Where should humanity go if Earth were to perish?” Co-producing the documentary is Hill, who created the film’s music.

Hill has also appeared on the History Channel’s UFO Hunters, hosted by Bill Birnes, publisher of UFO Magazine. On the episode, the UFO Hunters decide to test Hill’s blood and the blood of another apparent contactee. Both had a unknown very rare blood anomaly/bloodline, A harvard doctor uncovered "non-normal human" elevated levels of Creatine Kinase in both men, which is a very rare occurrence in just one person, let alone two.

“There’s a huge story unfolding here,” said Hill from his home near the shores of Lake Erie. “I’ve had contact my whole life. I remember asking my mother as a child, ‘Why do Santa’s elves keep visiting me?’”

Hill believes these UFOs aren’t just dropping in to catch the sites of the blue-dot that is two planets away from a middle- aged sun. “I really do consider myself a spiritual messenger. I know it sounds freaky,” says Hill, who claims he mysteriously had his jaw broken a couple years ago just days before he was to be interviewed by a local broadcast news station. “I think they’re absolutely sending us a message. I believe they are here to help us become a galactic society.”

Hill isn’t the only Eastlake resident who recently saw something strange over the lake. Gary Strauss is not a UFO enthusiast. “Not at all,” he says. “I’m not one of those UFO people.” He’s a chemist and a supervisor at a local laboratory. He’s also lived on the lake in his own home since 1984. He lives in the same neighborhood as Hill, but both claim to have never met.

Early on the morning of June 21st, 2007, Strauss and his son saw four bright lights high above the water. All shaped like the tip of a Sharpie marker. He says the lights were parallel with the shoreline, positioned at 11-o’clock and 30 degrees above the horizon. At first the lights were flat, he said. Then one vanished. Then another. Soon, all four were gone.

Suddenly, they reappeared in the shape of a diamond, says Strauss. Then they went flat again. This went on for more than an hour. He called Eastlake police and they dispatched an officer. Strauss says the officer also saw the lights. He remembers the officer saying, “‘What is that?’”

The following day, his son checked the Internet for lights over Lake Erie. He viewed one of Hill’s videos. And shouted: “‘That’s it!’” said Strauss. “‘That’s what we saw. That’s what it looks like!’”

But unlike other Lake Erie witnesses, Strauss doesn’t believe the lights are extraterrestrial. Strauss has contemplated other explanations. Planes. Boats. Canadians out to fool gullible Americans. But none of those seem plausible to him.

“I personally think it’s the government,” he said. “They’re experimenting with some type of technology. Maybe it’s the aerospace industry.”

Strauss believes the lights may be some type of exotic radar innovation. “They’re bouncing radar off some type of object. Some form of radar reflection technology. I’m just making an educated guess.”

An example of radar reflection technology has been applied to Laser Geodynamic Satellites or LAGEOS spacecrafts. Publicly, the US government says two are in orbit, and both are roughly the size of a basketball. They are made of brass, and partially covered with a retro-reflection material.

A material that returns light in the direction it comes from, similar to a road sign. It is believed that lasers have been used to illuminate them from space. Could US space interests have developed a satellite that can re-enter the atmosphere? Is the US government secretly testing these satellites over Lake Erie?

Nevertheless, the Lake Erie lights have struck a chord of intrigue within his mind. “I look outside a lot more. I want to see it again,” says Strauss, “and this time, I’m going to have my camera.” Asked if he’s becoming obsessive, like Richard Dreyfuss’ character Roy Neary of “Close Encounters,” he’s says no way. “No. I’m not obsessive. Absolutely not.”

The Eastlake police actually had two witnesses see those lights that night. A detective, who wished his name not be used for publication, says he too saw the lights, but from a different vantage point. The Eastlake police asked the Cleveland office of Homeland Security to look into the sighting.

Nevertheless, the Pentagon or NASA will never say publicly if secret research is ongoing over Lake Erie. One reason why is, it would be a lot easier to retrieve plummeting and secret technology from the shallowest of Great Lakes instead of some residential area. The evidence for using the lake’s airspace as a testing ground leads to NASA’s Plum Brook site in Sandusky, OH, a small town on Lake Erie, 50 or so miles west of Cleveland.

The site is home to the world’s largest space environment simulation chamber, called the Space Power Facility. The chamber is 100 feet wide and 122 feet long. “It was designed to test space hardware… in a simulated low-earth orbit environment,” states NASA’s web site.

The tests performed there in the past are impressive: Mars Landers, Solar Sails, International Space Station hardware, for example. The chamber is scheduled to test NASA’s new spacecraft, Orion, which is planned to take the US back to the moon by 2020. Recent upgrades to the Plum Brook site will also allow it to test “next generation lunar landers, robotic systems, and military and commercial aircraft.”

Moreover, just a three-hour drive away from here is Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, considered by many to be a top-secret research facility for the Air Force.

Since UFOs became an American and global obsession in the middle of last century, the US military has been a chief suspect as to what they are. And if the US military were testing over Lake Erie, then they’ve tricked many an Ohioan. But when it comes to playing UFO tricks over Lake Erie, or with a video camera to be more specific, skeptics say the trickster is Michael Lee Hill of Eastlake. Skeptics question whether Hill (along with his videos) has pulled an elaborate hoax, just like the notorious “Haitian UFO” video of 2008 on YouTube, which was viewed more than five million times, but then debunked by the Los Angeles Times.

In the 1860s, and for sometime before that, those who lived on the highlands south of Cleveland were perplexed by a mystery on the lake – they called the phenomenon “The Wizard Lights”.

One such account of these lights occurred on the night of Oct. 29th, 1867, when something strange – and bright – appeared out on the lake. Many thought it looked as if a steamer was in distress and on fire.

“The object appeared to be some 200 or more feet in length upon the water, and about as high above the water as an upper cabin steamer,” stated one witness. “The sky and water were beautifully irradiated by the light during its great brilliancy.”

The witness continued, “The resemblance which this light bore to that of the burning steamer was so strong that I confidently expected the arrival of the boats from the wreck during the night.” But none came, nor did any wreckage wash ashore. There was some speculation that heavy winds had opened crevices in the lake, sending underground gas, ignited by lightning, spewing into the air.

One hundred and twenty years later, however, many credible witnesses would swear the “mysterious lights” on the lake was a ship. But not from this planet.

On a cold, clear winter’s night in early March of 1988, Sheila and Henry Baker were driving their three children to their lake-front home, which is not far from where Hill has shot many of his videos. But as they neared the waterfront, Sheila’s attention was drawn to something odd over the lake.

It appeared to be… hovering? She went down to the beach. And there before her, was something much “larger than the Good-year Blimp”. It was a gun-metal colored, “football-shaped” object.

Bright ,white light poured out of each end. It was dead silent. Then it began to “teeter-totter.”

The ice underneath it began to rumble and implode with thunderous cracks, she said. It appeared to be struggling. Perhaps trying to escape to the stars above. Far from this strange planet and into infinity. Maybe those aboard knew their presence, their destruction right there in these icy waters, could lead to some unfathomable consequences for the billions who lived on this small blue dot.

Several years later during an interview with Cleveland’s largest daily newspaper the Plain Dealer, Sheila Baker leaned over to a reporter and insisted: “I saw it.” So did several others. And as the crowd grew, the vessel became more active. Bursting out of the apparent mother ship were several triangular-shaped, Cessna-sized crafts.

One buzzed a woman and her dog which cowered and whimpered. Another approached two young Coast Guard personnel called to the scene. A picture was taken of a smaller craft and published in the Plain Dealer. Still in their Chevy Suburban, the Coast Guard team gave a running report back to their base, said the Bakers, who also told their story to MUFON investigators. “Be advised the object appears to be landing on the lake. Be advised there are other objects moving around it.”

For more than an hour this continued. Ice cracking. Pulsating bright lights flashing on and off. Small ships circling and diving around the larger. Then like most UFO encounters… it vanished.

Nothing but chunks of ice, dead silence, and a handful of witnesses left with the shock of a lifetime. The Bakers said the Coast Guard personnel at that moment were “ghost-faced.”

This UFO story, like many prolific UFO tales, has spread across the Internet. And in this particular case, the story is accompanied by a copy of a Coast Guard incident report.

Whether it is legitimate is a mystery. A search of Archives.gov and other records was not successful, and Ohio Coast Guard public affairs officers said the 1988 report was shredded.

Nevertheless, the incident report states “the Large Object was almost on the ice,” and “Smaller Objects began hovering in the area where the large object landed and, after a few minutes, they began flying around.” The incident made the local press the following days, which brought out the skeptics.

One local astronomer said witnesses were looking at the conjunction of Jupiter and Venus, coupled with “spontaneous gas emissions.”

But skeptics weren’t the only apparent naysayers to get involved in this UFO case. Later on the night of the sighting, the Bakers decided to call the local Coast Guard outpost. “They told us, ‘It was out of their league and out of their hands’,” said Sheila Baker to MUFON.

“A person in command there, and he got on the phone with me, and that’s exactly what he told me. That they had to forward all their information to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. They said they were not allowed to investigate it any further, and that they we’re told to stay out of it.” She also was told NASA was getting involved.

MUFON investigators tried to interview the two young Coast Guard personnel, but were rebuffed by their commanding officers. Twenty years later, however, one of the Coast Guardsmen there that night spoke to me. "We saw multi-colored lights, but they were not flares,” he said. “We went there to see if someone was in distress. But there was no boat.”

What was it then? “I have no clue.”

Peace,
Michael Lee Hill

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Happy Thanksgiving!

Since when did the govt infiltrate tiny MUFON?

All of the UFO Groups have been infiltrated, there is still good folks within them all as well.

what? Nobody wants to talk about this now?

Imagine that.

Hello,

Soooooooooooooooooo, this explains why Rothschild hasbeen dumping Murcury in the Great Lakes?

If The House Of Rothschild is against the UFO's then that means the UFO's are the good guys.
See this:
BP-Rothschild needs all of Florida:
Thread: A. True Ott: An Interesting Theory about those Thousands of "UN" Vehicles at Florida Air Base
BioFuels:
Thread: BREAKING: Algae Is NEW Money in the Gulf, Not OIL!!!! Greeds know no bound!
Or:
[link to www.blogster.com]
'And The Sea Shall Turn To Blood'...
[link to rense.com]

[link to www.I_Love_All_Jews]

“Criminal Rothschilds“:
[link to www.youtube.com]
9/11 New World Order plan: Europe, America vs Russia, China:
[link to www.youtube.com]
The Rothschilds Exposed 1/3:
[link to www.youtube.com]

The House of Rothschild owns Israel to whom we hemorrhage:
"VISITING THE NATION THE ROTHSCHILDS BUILT"
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
Rothschild Boulevard in Tel Aviv:
[link to vostokzapad.wordpress.com]


Truth will set you free John 8:32

You're exactly right.

MUFON IS infiltrated, to say the least, and cannot be trusted. I found this out last night. Here's my story:

So I made a sightings report on November 7th about the things that we've been seeing out here, and we've been seeing a lot of things out here... in which I detailed in this thread: Thread: UFOs every night!!

Before I start, my caseworker/investigator is Rich Webb. And he has told me that he used to the work for the government as an investigator before he retired and started working for MUFON. He never divulged, other than to say that.

Up until last night, I though the MUFON investigator that I was talking to had my best interests at heart - and would have readily defended them. He was very nice when we were on the phone and when they came over for an audio-recorded interview last week. So I was really excited when they told me they'd be over tomorrow night with their digital camera and night vision and their laser pointer (to point out things in the sky), among other things. They told me that even if they couldn't see anything with the naked eye when they came out, that they'd try the night vision. And since my camera is only 6mp, I rarely even attempt at trying to get video proof. But I put my full name on the report and openly let them use it, putting my reputation on the line. I did this because I KNOW what I've been seeing, and there is no way of debunking it.

My Mom, who had seen some strange things, and my friend, Aleah, came over last night so that we could all go UFO hunting at our regular spot (which is near a bunch of cell phone towers, etc, out in the middle of no where) with the guys from MUFON.

Before MUFON even got there the UFOs were showing up in my backyard. There were 3 or 4 of them and they began circling the house up in the air. They started out looking like airplanes, but the similarities stopped there. They didn't move like planes, and I'm well aware of how a plane moves.

When MUFON came, they disappeared for a while (no worries, they came back). Giving myself, Aleah, and my Mom time to talk to them before we went out on our little excursion. Long enough for us to point out the strange cluster of stars that has been showing up with the UFOs - which is shaped like a triangle.

The only equipment they brought was this 'stargazer' or 'startracker' thing that was supposed to detect stars and planets, and binoculars. I have a pair of binoculars. No camera, no night vision, but I'll get to that later. They couldn't find this cluster of stars on their little gadget. They acted as though they couldn't even operate the little gadget. They couldn't tell us what cluster of stars it was, and almost seemed to avoid the topic altogether when we started asking about it more.

This is when their attitude, or specifically, Rich's, changed - the other guy never said much (both were older guys, around their 70s-80s). He had always been such a nice guy, but it was like he put on another head. The flashy guys started popping up in the sky in my yard. There were 3 or 4 of them. And instantly he said, "They are just airplanes, girls." He said it forcefully.

Aleah and I looked at each other, and I said to Rich, "They look like airplanes at first, but if you look at them, they aren't moving like airplanes!" But he wouldn't listen. Wouldn't have any part of it, and so we all decided to go out to our spot.

On our way out there, Aleah and I were discussing, "How can he dismiss those as airplanes? Are they blind or what?" It baffled us, but we were willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. However, I was watching the sky as we drove there, staring into one dark area in the sky when all over the sudden... something HUGE turned on. It was like it had been sitting there with it's lights off and then it just flipped on. It was a LARGE UFO (the largest I'd seen), one I hadn't seen before, and it was very low to the ground. It was glowing gold, was cigar-shaped, and was hovering. I pointed it out to Mom and Aleah and they stared at it in awe. We told the MUFON guys about it when they got there, but they didn't even aknowledge it.

There is a large tower of some kind with a flashing white light atop it, and we always park right next to it. The UFOs seem attracted to the area, and I think it's because of the towers that are out there.

But this is where things got really offensive. As soon as Rich gets out he says, "You girls know that this is just a tower right here flashing, that it's not a UFO..." LIKE WE ARE FUCKING DUMB! Aleah got annoyed immediately and said, "We're not blind and we're not stupid."

And then he preceded to point out all of the other towers and things along the horizon which were so obviously a man-made thing, and told us that those, too, were not UFOs. Which really really pissed me off. But while he was blabbering about that, the UFOs started showing up. And as we were pointing them out, he again loudly stated, "Just an airplane!" But at that point, there were only about 3 of them. I knew there would be more, there always is.

He never got out his camera or night vision. Didn't do any of that. Aleah and I conversed about that later, and we both concluded that their behavior was odd and unacceptable.

But then one of those large, golden, cigar-shaped ones flipped on. And it was very low to the ground. We pointed it out to them, and they kept flashing their damn flashlight at the red tower (cell phone tower or something) next to it... "That's just a cell phone tower." Or whatever it was that it was, it doesn't matter, because it isn't even important. He acted like he couldn't even see what we were talking about, and the thing was brighter than the tower, and hovering stationary about the height of the tower to the left of it.

So Aleah was like, "To the LEFT of the tower! We're not dumb - we know what a cell phone tower looks like!!"

He finally shined his light on it, but didn't say anything. And then it started to move along the horizon. Not blinking. Just glowing golden. And then he immediately jumped upon it, "Another airplane!"

It was becoming laughable to us. These things were so obviously NOT airplanes! Anyone else could see that, but this guy was hell bent on trying to convince us that none of these things were UFOs - just 'airplanes'. Aleah came up to me and we started whispering right in front of him as he babbled on and on to his partner about things that didn't even pertain to the investigation at hand!

She whispered to me that there was something wrong with this guy, they he was full of shit, that she wasn't even going to try to point them out to them anymore, because it didn't matter what showed up... he was going to say it was an airplane.

We were still watching the large golden ship creep along the horizon when Rich announced he couldn't see it anymore, and that it was just a plane that was landing or something.

But it was still there, and Aleah said loudly, "I still see it!" It had stopped moving. It was now just hovering again. But he still denied seeing it.

Then the flashies started showing up. There were 4 or 5 of them at first, and I was pointing them out to him and he acted like there was nothing in the sky. "I don't see them." And Aleah and I were both like, "THEY ARE RIGHT THERE!"

Aleah whispered to me again, "Don't even bother, he's not going to listen. He's full of shit."

And he stated, "I'm frustrated too, girls. I was hoping we'd see something out here." !!!!! There was something about that statement that really realllyyyyyy got under my skin.

So I said, "I'm not disappointed or frustrated. I know what I'm seeing." He didn't say anything to that remark! It rendered him speechless! He thought I was just going to be pushed over by it! He has another fucking thing coming!

That's when he started ignoring me altogether. He cornered Aleah by the van and was talking to her. Then the flashies were going crazy! They kept popping up and there was about 12 of them in sky.

Now lets think here with this logic... The only airport around was a small one for crop dusters and private 2-people planes. I know this because my ex-boyfriend had one of his friends pick me up there so we could fly over my Mom's house a few years ago. All the other airports are 2 hours away in both directions. Also, I've never seen 12 large planes all at once in the same area in the sky moving strangely during the day time or any other time... There isn't enough airspace for that.

Anyone with half a brain would know that that is odd. So I started pointing them out to him as he talked to Aleah. I stood there as I was pointing and said, "There is one there! One there! One there! One there! One there! Another one there! One there...." I went on and on as I pointed them out, but he completely ignored me! I looked over at Aleah and she looked at me and raised her eyebrows and shook her head.

WHAT THE FUCK.

That's when I knew he had bullshit intentions, and then he said, "UFOs don't blink." How fucking ignorant is this man?! And he contradicted himself, because he had earlier told me that you can identify a UFO BECAUSE it's usually blinking. That non-blinking moving objects in the skies were usually satellites... blah blah blah.

But then he was trying to talk to Aleah about alien abductions, and he spewed out the exact same things he had said to me on the phone a week before. "Now I'm not trying to scare you, but there's a good possibility if you girls are seeing things that they are trying to abduct you..." But he wasn't saying it to be enlightening or encouraging about the UFO subject... he was saying it to SCARE US OFF. It was like he was doing everything in his power for us to stop paying attention to what is going on.

I'd had enough. He was ignoring me, wouldn't even listen to me as I counted off all the UFOs in the sky aloud. So I said, "It's getting cold, lets leave." And we did. I didn't even say goodbye.

So we (my Mom, Aleah, and I) went to the bar afterwards and had a few drinks. It was needed, because we were pretty riled up. My Mom agreed with us that they were acting weird, but she had spent most of the UFO hunt in the car because she has a hard time being out in the cold for long periods of time.

But now I know we are onto something. His suspicious behavior, disinformation, and diversions truly confirmed it.

DON'T TRUST MUFON! I'm not saying all of the investigators in MUFON are bad guys... but they ARE infiltrated!

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There is something going on, and somebody doesn't want us to know about it!

They will never let us know, they would rather kill us all then tell us about the existence of Extraterrestrials and UFO's.

Even though you seem convinced it does not matter to them.

We are the Microcosm in a vast Macrocosm.

You're right, but I think the ET's want us to know. And I'll never stop fighting to reveal the truth to people. My whole world has been changed by this. It's the reason why I'm even on GLP. I was never into conspiracy theories and other such things until the UFOs started showing up.

MUFON really pissed me of last night. And if these guys think they can just sit back and feed people a bunch of disinformation and bullshit, they have another thing coming. Because I'm no pushover. And I'm sick of being lied to.

Even if it kills me!

Very interesting, I did not know anything about all of that.

Thanks.

Yes, I hear more & more about Mufon treating people this way, do you know Mufon has a chart with like 6 or 7 different UFO shapes on it and if what you see isn't on their chart, well then it's not a UFO

Sorry you got treated that way, that is BS if you ask me.

You're a fucking moran...

He resigned because he came to his senses, and realized that you are a lying twat, and that MUFON was just as guilty as your lying ass...

That's just ridiculious!!

But yes, I'm VERY offended by the events of last night! I thought these people were trying to help me find answers, and I was shocked by their attitudes and actions last night, especially since they had been so nice and understand when we first spoke.

Oh yes Mikey...

Anyone that calls you out for being the charlatan you are, MUST be a "shill", eh?

Why do you feel the need to attack this persons character - someone you probably have never even met IRL? If you think this thread is BS, then why get in a huff about it, slinging insults? Why don't you just stop reading, and find something else to do with your time?

Most people here don't even know what the fuck a shill is they just see it as a derogatory term used on GLP.

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Grow up Casper...

This is the introwebs...

I'm not the one going around calling someone a 'twat'.

Ya you can always tell the shills and debunkers by the childish personal attacks and ridicule, anything but actually talk about the issue at hand.

It is my belief that Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies bitch slapped Mufon in how they treated the Lake Erie UFO case and they're conclusions because check out the following...

Please keep in mind that Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies now FUNDS Mufon.
[link to www.devicedaily.com]

Friday night on The Alien Agenda radio, both Eugene Erlikh and Michael Lee Hill were featured on the show. Both had filmed unknown multicolored orb/craft over Lake Erie and coincidentally live within 5 minutes of each other in Cleveland. Michael's videos go further back to 2006 and Eugene's are more recent.

On April 6, 2010 Michael and Eugene unknowingly and simultaneously filmed similar multicolored orb/craft on the same night and at the same time or within minutes of each other. Both videographers made this discovery just yesterday as well.

According to Erlikh, at approximately 6:45pm EST, on Thursday night (April 8, 2010) a private telephone call came into his residence. Eugene answered and the man on the other end assumed to know it was Eugene and called him by name. The man identified himself as a member of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. He did give his name and email that is, in fact, linked to the BAASS.ORG domain name. He asked Eugene a number of questions pertaining to the sightings over Lake Erie. The man then demanded Eugene give up the exact coordinates of the location the lights are appearing. When Eugene questioned the man, he stated he knew the lights were not terrestrial or from this planet and there's big money involved in obtaining that technology!

"In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft.As an investigator I must be completly objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience.MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions." - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator

Here is what Bigelow has already publicly and openly revealed about these Pulsating Orbs of Light in which the National Institute of Discovery Sciences/Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies studied in Utah over the Skinwalker Ranch.

What Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) knows about these UFO's - pulsating spherical balls of light showing up worldwide!

A pulsating spherical ball of light.

The light appears bluish to a yellow green glow. The light it casts is not extremely bright but will cast light on objects immediately surrounding the orb. Typically there is more than 1 orbs gathered. They have the ability to hover and make no noise. There appears to be no physical shape supporting these orbs. A characteristic feature is that they will pulsate their light intensity for a matter of seconds growing extremely bright, and then fading away to nothing as if the object simply vanished. Apparently these have been witnessed during the day but are more visible at night. Have been seen transforming into other animal shapes and is suspected of having the ability to transmorph into the shape of local living animals. Can affect other electrical objects and knocked out the power to the ranch house. Shift between a visible and invisible state as they pulsate on and off.

These are intelligent and purposeful like in nature. I suspect they are some sort of transportation vehicles for another intelligence or the drones for this intelligence. They have a role of observing. They are unique in that they appear almost curious about any humans they come across. They seem to easily detect your presence, and may be influenced by meditative thoughts/requests. I believe their function is to observe, report, and to transport either consciousness, or actual entities within them, as if some form of vessel. This is the most interactive of all the anomalies on the ranch and will pursue and entertain its viewers.

The flash drones (A pulsating spherical ball of light) tend to take on a more interactive role if the observer is alone. Possess the ability to generate a state of uncontrollable "panic" in those targeted, Witnessed working in groups in a predator/prey fashion. The sensation of being hit by one is described as being hit by a high velocity warm water balloon. The after effects of which immediately evaporate away. However a state of depression typically follows lasting for days to weeks.

Although speculative, the light may only travel in a light-off configuration. When the light is visible, the object appears stationary, however it disappears, only to reappear in a different location. This postulates that the light may possibly be "phasing" in and out from one location to the next.

Artificial or biological like intelligence. Potentially an animal like intelligence. The light radiated is seen in a 180 degree manner and does not cast light behind.

Duration for sightings 1 to 45 minutes

These are intelligent and purposeful like in nature. I suspect they are some sort of transportation vehicles for another intelligence or the drones for this intelligence. They have a role of observing. They are unique in that they appear almost curious about any humans they come across. They seem to easily detect your presence, and may be influenced by meditative thoughts/requests. I believe their function is to observe, report, and to transport either consciousness, or actual entities within them, as if some form of vessel. This is the most interactive of all the anomalies on the ranch and will pursue and entertain its viewers. The flash drones tend to take on a more interactive role if the observer is alone.

Not sure if you know this but the Bigelow Skinwalker ranch is staffed with armed security and the most advanced camera's in the world keeping an eye on the ranch 24/7.

Here it is on a silver platter, you wanted discosure? This is what is showing up worldwide right now over Utah, Lake Erie, Texas, The UK, Pheonix, Mexico, You name it, they are showimg themselves now.

Here is what is known regarding these Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)

Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region

The Ministry of Defence has released this report in response to a Freedom of Information request and we are pleased to now make it available to a wider audience via the MOD Freedom of Information Publication Scheme. Where indicated information is withheld in accordance with Section 26 (Defence), Section 27 (International Relations) and Section 40 (Personal Information) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length.

- The UK Ministry of Defence

So you're saying that you blindly defending a guy that has been filming plans and faking UFO's for ages here at GLP?

Oklee Doklee good neighbor!