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RTS User ID: 1170368 United States 12/18/2010 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Research" anyone? Quoting: Tumbleweed HippyNah, that's too rational. Better to just read the first post, then assume the worst from there. I posted the same as you, 5 posts in, but to no avail, no one reads replies as either, I mean, you might actually read something of value and then not be able to assume the worst!! the Union Members mentioned in the op need a SWAC card also..which will be denied if they are "subversive" e.g. question the official story about 9-11 etc. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199701 United States 12/18/2010 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone working on Federally funded Transportation projects will be subject to drug testing - usually random at the discretion of the employer. When I was in the system my supervisor could require me to taken one, on demand. Quoting: TTX8K82u cud have a bashful bladder tho......lolo |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199701 United States 12/18/2010 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone working on Federally funded Transportation projects will be subject to drug testing - usually random at the discretion of the employer. When I was in the system my supervisor could require me to taken one, on demand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1199701u cud have a bashful bladder tho......lolo [link to www.paruresis.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1108380 United States 12/18/2010 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Research" anyone? Quoting: RTSNah, that's too rational. Better to just read the first post, then assume the worst from there. I posted the same as you, 5 posts in, but to no avail, no one reads replies as either, I mean, you might actually read something of value and then not be able to assume the worst!! the Union Members mentioned in the op need a SWAC card also..which will be denied if they are "subversive" e.g. question the official story about 9-11 etc. Not to be a Negative Nancy and piss in your Cheerios, but how do you know they will be denied if they question 9/11, etc? Seriously. Link? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199701 United States 12/18/2010 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How in hew do these folks fresh from the Mideast, India, China, Mexico pass a background check, fingerprints, and credit check to get cleared? Damit I need to work too ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1010415putta chip in um.......u 2....lololo constant bac readout...where ya go.....what ya do....maybe even WHAT U THINK!!!..;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199701 United States 12/18/2010 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How in hew do these folks fresh from the Mideast, India, China, Mexico pass a background check, fingerprints, and credit check to get cleared? Damit I need to work too ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1010415putta chip in um.......u 2....lololo constant bac readout...where ya go.....what ya do....maybe even WHAT U THINK!!!..;) |
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RTS User ID: 1170368 United States 12/18/2010 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Research" anyone? Quoting: Joe QuayleNah, that's too rational. Better to just read the first post, then assume the worst from there. I posted the same as you, 5 posts in, but to no avail, no one reads replies as either, I mean, you might actually read something of value and then not be able to assume the worst!! the Union Members mentioned in the op need a SWAC card also..which will be denied if they are "subversive" e.g. question the official story about 9-11 etc. Not to be a Negative Nancy and piss in your Cheerios, but how do you know they will be denied if they question 9/11, etc? Seriously. Link? the infowars link posted earlier stated that.. [link to www.infowars.com] SWAC also requires a background investigation by the government, so if construction, port workers, longshoremen, and truck drivers are involved in political activity frowned upon by the feds – for instance, 9/11 truth, considered dangerous and subversive by the State Department – it is likely they will have to find another line of work. Last Edited by RTS on 12/18/2010 07:58 PM |
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Tumbleweed Hippy User ID: 1162294 United States 12/18/2010 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Union Members mentioned in the op need a SWAC card also..which will be denied if they are "subversive" e.g. question the official story about 9-11 etc. Quoting: RTSI don't know if you mean to be doing this, but you seem do be implying that all union members will need a TWIC/SWAC clearance, that just isn't the case ..... only vetted workers are eligible to enter a secure construction site, unescorted. It is believed that several very large upcoming projects within Local 40 & 361's jurisdiction will be requiring workers on these projects to have TWIC credentials. You will have to point out to me where in these links anything (sans speculation) is mentioned about denial due to being subversive |
susano User ID: 1164283 United States 12/18/2010 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Research" anyone? Quoting: Tumbleweed HippyNah, that's too rational. Better to just read the first post, then assume the worst from there. I posted the same as you, 5 posts in, but to no avail, no one reads replies as either, I mean, you might actually read something of value and then not be able to assume the worst!! ALWAYS assume the worst. I read the TWIC info. Now, notice, just as m_astera correctly pointed out, the slippery slope. Already someone has posted in this thread that they had to get a TWIC card becaue the company they work ofr has facilities near waterways - even though that poster doesn't work at one. Last Edited by susano on 12/18/2010 08:01 PM |
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RTS User ID: 1170368 United States 12/18/2010 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Union Members mentioned in the op need a SWAC card also..which will be denied if they are "subversive" e.g. question the official story about 9-11 etc. Quoting: Tumbleweed HippyI don't know if you mean to be doing this, but you seem do be implying that all union members will need a TWIC/SWAC clearance, that just isn't the case ..... only vetted workers are eligible to enter a secure construction site, unescorted. It is believed that several very large upcoming projects within Local 40 & 361's jurisdiction will be requiring workers on these projects to have TWIC credentials. You will have to point out to me where in these links anything (sans speculation) is mentioned about denial due to being subversive the infowars link had a link to a .gov site so you need to click on that and find out or believe infowars..I'm just quoting what that article said |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1108380 United States 12/18/2010 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Research" anyone? Quoting: RTSNah, that's too rational. Better to just read the first post, then assume the worst from there. I posted the same as you, 5 posts in, but to no avail, no one reads replies as either, I mean, you might actually read something of value and then not be able to assume the worst!! the Union Members mentioned in the op need a SWAC card also..which will be denied if they are "subversive" e.g. question the official story about 9-11 etc. Not to be a Negative Nancy and piss in your Cheerios, but how do you know they will be denied if they question 9/11, etc? Seriously. Link? the infowars link posted earlier stated that.. [link to www.infowars.com] SWAC also requires a background investigation by the government, so if construction, port workers, longshoremen, and truck drivers are involved in political activity frowned upon by the feds – for instance, 9/11 truth, considered dangerous and subversive by the State Department – it is likely they will have to find another line of work. Yeah I read that. I don't know. Maybe I should start posting shit goofier than I already do on Facebook, and test this theory. Not like I have a lot to lose anyway. |
Tumbleweed Hippy User ID: 1162294 United States 12/18/2010 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ALWAYS assume the worst. Quoting: susanoI read the TWIC info. Now, notice, just as m_astera correctly pointed out, the slippery slope. Already someone has posted in this thread that they had to get a TWIC card becaue the company they work ofr has facilities near waterways - even though that poster doesn't work at one. Don't get me wrong, I agree that this is just a step towards further control (especially considering: this is about security of ports - when is the last time a major indecent occurred at a port, mixed with my thought that it's not the US-side of operations that would be destructive to ports, but what comes IN to the ports from other countries). My thought is simply to not conjoin fact with speculation so that the sub-resulting mixture of the two is then portrayed as a new fact. |
susano User ID: 1164283 United States 12/18/2010 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ALWAYS assume the worst. Quoting: Tumbleweed HippyI read the TWIC info. Now, notice, just as m_astera correctly pointed out, the slippery slope. Already someone has posted in this thread that they had to get a TWIC card becaue the company they work ofr has facilities near waterways - even though that poster doesn't work at one. Don't get me wrong, I agree that this is just a step towards further control (especially considering: this is about security of ports - when is the last time a major indecent occurred at a port, mixed with my thought that it's not the US-side of operations that would be destructive to ports, but what comes IN to the ports from other countries). My thought is simply to not conjoin fact with speculation so that the sub-resulting mixture of the two is then portrayed as a new fact. Agreed. |
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RTS User ID: 1170368 United States 12/18/2010 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Research" anyone? Quoting: Joe QuayleNah, that's too rational. Better to just read the first post, then assume the worst from there. I posted the same as you, 5 posts in, but to no avail, no one reads replies as either, I mean, you might actually read something of value and then not be able to assume the worst!! the Union Members mentioned in the op need a SWAC card also..which will be denied if they are "subversive" e.g. question the official story about 9-11 etc. Not to be a Negative Nancy and piss in your Cheerios, but how do you know they will be denied if they question 9/11, etc? Seriously. Link? the infowars link posted earlier stated that.. [link to www.infowars.com] SWAC also requires a background investigation by the government, so if construction, port workers, longshoremen, and truck drivers are involved in political activity frowned upon by the feds – for instance, 9/11 truth, considered dangerous and subversive by the State Department – it is likely they will have to find another line of work. Yeah I read that. I don't know. Maybe I should start posting shit goofier than I already do on Facebook, and test this theory. Not like I have a lot to lose anyway. I'm guessing if you're a union plumber somewhere inland in Montana or Indiana this wouldn't apply to you YET.. edit to add: working at a Military facility as a previous poster said..apparently you need the card(s) Last Edited by RTS on 12/18/2010 08:25 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1193870 United States 12/18/2010 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ___________________________________________________ [link to www.local361.com] "High Level Security I. No convictions ever in your lifetime: (8) Sedition. (9) Treason. II. An individual has a disqualifying criminal offense if the individual was convicted, or found not guilty by reason of insanity, in a civilian or military jurisdiction, within the past ten (10) years (3) Aircraft piracy; (4) Interference with flight crewmembers or flight attendants; (5) Commission of certain crimes aboard aircraft in flight;" _____________________________________________________ The Medium and Low levels are the same only a shorter time period, 7 and 5 years respectively. Except the first paragraph. This sounds like utter bullshit. It's not about security, it's about control. |
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BROKEN (OP) User ID: 1080426 United States 12/18/2010 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So here's some of the 'Red Flags' this throws up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193870___________________________________________________ [link to www.local361.com] "High Level Security I. No convictions ever in your lifetime: (8) Sedition. (9) Treason. II. An individual has a disqualifying criminal offense if the individual was convicted, or found not guilty by reason of insanity, in a civilian or military jurisdiction, within the past ten (10) years (3) Aircraft piracy; (4) Interference with flight crewmembers or flight attendants; (5) Commission of certain crimes aboard aircraft in flight;" _____________________________________________________ The Medium and Low levels are the same only a shorter time period, 7 and 5 years respectively. Except the first paragraph. This sounds like utter bullshit. It's not about security, it's about control. "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover "Those who make Peaceful Revolution Impossible...Will make Violent Revolution Inevitable" -JFK :minimoran: |
BROKEN (OP) User ID: 1080426 United States 12/18/2010 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all of this crap is at hyper speed now like a mass of flies around a garbage can Quoting: juniperothe buzzing sound is meant to distract or hypnotize it seems.. good find broken as usual "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover "Those who make Peaceful Revolution Impossible...Will make Violent Revolution Inevitable" -JFK :minimoran: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1195892 United Kingdom 12/18/2010 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now wait a minute, that is not what this is, this is not about every job. From the twic sight: Quoting: Tumbleweed HippyThe Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC) is a vital security measure that will ensure individuals who pose a threat do not gain unescorted access to secure areas of the nation's maritime transportation system. This is about secure areas, not the construction work going on down the road. nor every truck driver, nor etc etc. While I do agree that this is indeed yet another step (conditioning) towards national ID and all its hoo-hah, don't twist the fact to what they simply are not. +1. |
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Tumbleweed Hippy User ID: 1162294 United States 12/18/2010 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all of this crap is at hyper speed now Quoting: juniperoGawd almighty no doubt !! Every time I turn around there is something else 1984'ish happening, all at an exponential rate. I can't put my finger on whether it is because they are trying to assume control before the country collapses and the people revolt, or whether it has to due with end of days (that's a whole other issue), or both. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1195892 United Kingdom 12/18/2010 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So here's some of the 'Red Flags' this throws up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193870___________________________________________________ [link to www.local361.com] "High Level Security I. No convictions ever in your lifetime: (8) Sedition. (9) Treason. II. An individual has a disqualifying criminal offense if the individual was convicted, or found not guilty by reason of insanity, in a civilian or military jurisdiction, within the past ten (10) years (3) Aircraft piracy; (4) Interference with flight crewmembers or flight attendants; (5) Commission of certain crimes aboard aircraft in flight;" _____________________________________________________ The Medium and Low levels are the same only a shorter time period, 7 and 5 years respectively. Except the first paragraph. This sounds like utter bullshit. It's not about security, it's about control. Ok then lets just have any old fuck wit building shit. Heh i know when you need to have building work done lets just grab them straight from the pen. Youll feel save and the work will be top notch eh. |
mopar28m User ID: 1199601 United States 12/18/2010 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can tell you this, which is along those lines. I suddenly have to have a 30 hour OSHA card in order to continue my PART-time employment where I work 2 days a week. I have to pay for the 30 hour class out of MY pocket. My employer has no obligation to pay. So I am now doing the class online and my wallet is lighter by $190. Quoting: Ricfly52So far I have really enjoyed that hopey changey thingy. NOT! The nice thing about that is you can put that on your tax form, schedule A under non-reimbursable work expense. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1108380 United States 12/18/2010 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Research" anyone? Quoting: RTSNah, that's too rational. Better to just read the first post, then assume the worst from there. I posted the same as you, 5 posts in, but to no avail, no one reads replies as either, I mean, you might actually read something of value and then not be able to assume the worst!! the Union Members mentioned in the op need a SWAC card also..which will be denied if they are "subversive" e.g. question the official story about 9-11 etc. Not to be a Negative Nancy and piss in your Cheerios, but how do you know they will be denied if they question 9/11, etc? Seriously. Link? the infowars link posted earlier stated that.. [link to www.infowars.com] SWAC also requires a background investigation by the government, so if construction, port workers, longshoremen, and truck drivers are involved in political activity frowned upon by the feds – for instance, 9/11 truth, considered dangerous and subversive by the State Department – it is likely they will have to find another line of work. Yeah I read that. I don't know. Maybe I should start posting shit goofier than I already do on Facebook, and test this theory. Not like I have a lot to lose anyway. I'm guessing if you're a union plumber somewhere inland in Montana or Indiana this wouldn't apply to you YET.. edit to add: working at a Military facility as a previous poster said..apparently you need the card(s) You know my profession and location? Are you working for THEM??? |