HYGROELECTRICITY - Electricity out of Thin Air | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hygroelectricity is a type of static electricity that forms on water droplets and can be transferred from droplets to small dust particles. The phenomenon is common in the earth's atmosphere but has also been observed in the steam escaping from boilers. It was the basis for a proposal by Nikola Tesla to tap electricity from the air, an idea which has been recently revived. Hygroelectric charge is the likely source of the electric charge which, under certain conditions such as exist in thunderstorms, volcanic eruptions and some dust storms, gives rise to lightning.[1][2] [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ScienceDaily (Aug. 26, 2010) — Imagine devices that capture electricity from the air ― much like solar cells capture sunlight ― and using them to light a house or recharge an electric car. Imagine using similar panels on the rooftops of buildings to prevent lightning before it forms. Strange as it may sound, scientists already are in the early stages of developing such devices, according to a report presented at the 240th National Meeting of the American Chemical Society (ACS). [link to www.sciencedaily.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scientists once believed that water droplets in the atmosphere were electrically neutral, and remained so even after coming into contact with the electrical charges on dust particles and droplets of other liquids. But new evidence suggested that water in the atmosphere really does pick up an electrical charge. Galembeck and colleagues confirmed that idea, using laboratory experiments that simulated water's contact with dust particles in the air. They used tiny particles of silica and aluminum phosphate, both common airborne substances, showing that silica became more negatively charged in the presence of high humidity and aluminum phosphate became more positively charged. High humidity means high levels of water vapor in the air ― the vapor that condenses and becomes visible as "fog" on windows of air-conditioned cars and buildings on steamy summer days. "This was clear evidence that water in the atmosphere can accumulate electrical charges and transfer them to other materials it comes into contact with," Galembeck explained. "We are calling this 'hygroelectricity,' meaning 'humidity electricity'." [link to www.sciencedaily.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1201429 United Kingdom 12/20/2010 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ScienceDaily (Aug. 26, 2010) — Imagine devices that capture electricity from the air ― much like solar cells capture sunlight ― and using them to light a house or recharge an electric car. Imagine using similar panels on the rooftops of buildings to prevent lightning before it forms. Strange as it may sound, scientists already are in the early stages of developing such devices, according to a report presented at the 240th National Meeting of the American Chemical Society (ACS). Quoting: Sickscent[link to www.sciencedaily.com] ooh yes imagine if such a device was possible.. (sarc) wait a minute, dont radio aerials do this already? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1198191 United States 12/20/2010 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading about that. Just wanted to throw this link at you, there's a ton of things that will pique your interest. [link to www.rexresearch.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so basically they are saying they were wrong to assume the water was neutral charges in the atmos. in the first place Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1201429yep. Just posted what you are talking about...right above this reply. a dehumidifier that creates electricity? They were discussing something like that in the Science Daily link... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading about that. Just wanted to throw this link at you, there's a ton of things that will pique your interest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198191[link to www.rexresearch.com] Wow, looks like a good website. Thanks... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1201429 United Kingdom 12/20/2010 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading about that. Just wanted to throw this link at you, there's a ton of things that will pique your interest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1198191[link to www.rexresearch.com] good ol rex research patents. a goldmine of technology proving, generally useless devices :P |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading about that. Just wanted to throw this link at you, there's a ton of things that will pique your interest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1201429[link to www.rexresearch.com] good ol rex research patents. a goldmine of technology proving, generally useless devices :P |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1198191 United States 12/20/2010 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember reading about that. Just wanted to throw this link at you, there's a ton of things that will pique your interest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1201429[link to www.rexresearch.com] good ol rex research patents. a goldmine of technology proving, generally useless devices :P |
ZTE User ID: 779511 United States 12/20/2010 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so basically they are saying they were wrong to assume the water was neutral charges in the atmos. in the first place Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1201429I would have thought the concept of Hydrogen bonds would have wiped out the neutral charge of water. Sure, the charge of a single atom of water evens out, but it is the interaction of water that makes water what it is. That interaction is...electricity (simply put). |
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aether User ID: 1187276 United Kingdom 12/20/2010 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much power will be required to operate the transmitter? Quoting: aetherThe HF transmitter system is able to produce approximately 3.6 million Watts of radio frequency power. However, the HAARP transmitters have been designed to operate very linearly (in Class AB mode) so that they will not produce radio interference to other users of the radio spectrum. To achieve that degree of linearity, the transmitters operate at an efficiency of only about 45 %. For every 100 Watts of input power 45 Watts of Radio Frequency power is generated and the rest is lost in the transmitter cabinet as heat. (As an analogy, a 75 Watt light bulb gets quite hot while it's producing the light you actually see.) In addition, the on-site diesel generators must provide power for other equipment used by the transmitters including the cooling system and low level amplifier stages. As a result, approximately 10 million Watts of prime power will be required when the transmitter system is operating at full power. Quoting: HAARP How much power does HAARP take from the power grid? HAARP draws only housekeeping power, used for lighting, heating, and computers, from the local power grid. During research operations, the HAARP facility is taken off the local power grid completely Quoting: HAARP hi salt and light, what does your intuition tell you concerning what powers haarp Quoting: aether 1187276 i'm not sure what you are asking me. hi salt and light, what does your intuition tell you concerning what powers haarp i'm not sure what you are asking me. Quoting: Salt and Light where does their electricity come from as they are off the grid (disconnected) when they go operational? the are off the grid of public resource. they are sourcing their own. that is my guess. the operations of a power grid are over my head. if you have insight, please share. HAARP which is a Phased Array. Another Phase Conjugate system. HAARP is run by the Naval Research Laborarory. The ostensible purpose of the project is Ionospheric research and/or submarine communications. In reality, it has many cjaracteristics of a "Tesla device", able to transmit huge amounts of electricity without wires. Thread: Psychoacoustics -- Basso Profundo and other Low Frequency Noises (Page 5) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much power will be required to operate the transmitter? Quoting: aether 1187276The HF transmitter system is able to produce approximately 3.6 million Watts of radio frequency power. However, the HAARP transmitters have been designed to operate very linearly (in Class AB mode) so that they will not produce radio interference to other users of the radio spectrum. To achieve that degree of linearity, the transmitters operate at an efficiency of only about 45 %. For every 100 Watts of input power 45 Watts of Radio Frequency power is generated and the rest is lost in the transmitter cabinet as heat. (As an analogy, a 75 Watt light bulb gets quite hot while it's producing the light you actually see.) In addition, the on-site diesel generators must provide power for other equipment used by the transmitters including the cooling system and low level amplifier stages. As a result, approximately 10 million Watts of prime power will be required when the transmitter system is operating at full power. Quoting: HAARP How much power does HAARP take from the power grid? HAARP draws only housekeeping power, used for lighting, heating, and computers, from the local power grid. During research operations, the HAARP facility is taken off the local power grid completely Quoting: HAARP hi salt and light, what does your intuition tell you concerning what powers haarp Quoting: aether 1187276 i'm not sure what you are asking me. hi salt and light, what does your intuition tell you concerning what powers haarp i'm not sure what you are asking me. Quoting: Salt and Light where does their electricity come from as they are off the grid (disconnected) when they go operational? the are off the grid of public resource. they are sourcing their own. that is my guess. the operations of a power grid are over my head. if you have insight, please share. HAARP which is a Phased Array. Another Phase Conjugate system. HAARP is run by the Naval Research Laborarory. The ostensible purpose of the project is Ionospheric research and/or submarine communications. In reality, it has many cjaracteristics of a "Tesla device", able to transmit huge amounts of electricity without wires. Thread: Psychoacoustics -- Basso Profundo and other Low Frequency Noises (Page 5) whoa... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1201429 United Kingdom 12/20/2010 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | op its called a TESLA TOWER ok. No scientist today can stand up to Teslas genius they wouldnt have a chance at figuring it out if it wasnt for Tesla. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1200110no tesla power uses radio waves as the source of power, they are talking about using the electrical charge of a particle of water in the air as the guy above said, any difference in state between like items will create electricity |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The notion of harnessing the power of electricity formed naturally has tantalized scientists for centuries. They noticed that sparks of static electricity formed as steam escaped from boilers. Workers who touched the steam even got painful electrical shocks. Famed inventor Nikola Tesla, for example, was among those who dreamed of capturing and using electricity from the air. It's the electricity formed, for instance, when water vapor collects on microscopic particles of dust and other material in the air. [link to www.sciencedaily.com] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much power will be required to operate the transmitter? Quoting: aether 1187276The HF transmitter system is able to produce approximately 3.6 million Watts of radio frequency power. However, the HAARP transmitters have been designed to operate very linearly (in Class AB mode) so that they will not produce radio interference to other users of the radio spectrum. To achieve that degree of linearity, the transmitters operate at an efficiency of only about 45 %. For every 100 Watts of input power 45 Watts of Radio Frequency power is generated and the rest is lost in the transmitter cabinet as heat. (As an analogy, a 75 Watt light bulb gets quite hot while it's producing the light you actually see.) In addition, the on-site diesel generators must provide power for other equipment used by the transmitters including the cooling system and low level amplifier stages. As a result, approximately 10 million Watts of prime power will be required when the transmitter system is operating at full power. Quoting: HAARP How much power does HAARP take from the power grid? HAARP draws only housekeeping power, used for lighting, heating, and computers, from the local power grid. During research operations, the HAARP facility is taken off the local power grid completely Quoting: HAARP hi salt and light, what does your intuition tell you concerning what powers haarp Quoting: aether 1187276 i'm not sure what you are asking me. hi salt and light, what does your intuition tell you concerning what powers haarp i'm not sure what you are asking me. Quoting: Salt and Light where does their electricity come from as they are off the grid (disconnected) when they go operational? the are off the grid of public resource. they are sourcing their own. that is my guess. the operations of a power grid are over my head. if you have insight, please share. HAARP which is a Phased Array. Another Phase Conjugate system. HAARP is run by the Naval Research Laborarory. The ostensible purpose of the project is Ionospheric research and/or submarine communications. In reality, it has many cjaracteristics of a "Tesla device", able to transmit huge amounts of electricity without wires. Thread: Psychoacoustics -- Basso Profundo and other Low Frequency Noises (Page 5) |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 12/20/2010 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The end is most definaltly close now. When we figure out that everything we need is produced naturally, TPTB will shut the world down! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1187006and begin anew Would be nice, seeing as how the systems we have now are so fucked up |
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