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Do Home Schoolers Deserve a Tax Break?

 
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Do Home Schoolers Deserve a Tax Break?
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Chester E. Finn Jr. is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and the president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute.

The boundary between “going to school” and “being home schooled” grows ever more porous as online learning opportunities proliferate and more families supplement what their children learn “in school” with educational offerings at home.

In return for financial help, home-schooled students should be required to take state tests; if they don't pass, the subsidy vanishes..Though data in this realm are shaky, the best federal statistics (from 2003) suggest that barely 2 percent of U.S. children are entirely “home schooled” by their parents. This is up a bit from earlier years and apt to keep rising as online options make it easier for parents to educate their children at home without having to devise and deliver the curriculum themselves.

From a policy perspective, however, there’s not much difference between teaching kids at home and enrolling them in any of hundreds of “virtual charter schools” or district- or state-run alternatives like the Florida Virtual School. Yet the virtual schools, which are fiercely resisted by teachers unions' and other education-establishment forces, are fully paid for with public dollars, while traditional home schooling is done almost entirely at the parents’ expense.

What’s fair about that, especially for low-income families that may favor instruction around the kitchen table but can’t access a virtual school and can’t afford to cover these costs out of pocket?

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Yes. And, people that send their children to private/parochial schools should get a property tax break.

Will it happen...Nooooooooooo!

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yes

they dont use the resources-- Plain and simple
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They don't deserve a tax break, but funding should be tied to the child and it shouldn't matter if they are home-schooled, attend a private school, or attend a public school. 1 child = x amount of dollars.

However, home-schoold children need to show documentation that they are following an approved course of study and show progress just as those in private and public schools must (otherwise you would have people pulling their kids out of school and spending the money on drugs, booze, and cars).
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and honourary mention for getting their kids out of those hell holes
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Yes they do.

I home schooled my daughter. As a homeowner I was paying property tax to support public schools while also paying for private classes.
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maybe not a tax break but yes to a tax credit which ultimately ends up the same

the schools should not be given money for children that do not go to it, a tiny portion perhaps to cover a diploma and or basic things, nothing more-they did basically nothing to deserve that money
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Yes they do.

I home schooled my daughter. As a homeowner I was paying property tax to support public schools while also paying for private classes.
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I am home schooling my daughter & the school district is paying for the materials to do it.

I've looked at my property tax statement & the amount of money they are paying for her curriculum is about the same that I paid in for property taxes.
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They should be entitled to a tax break. But then seniors and anyone else that doesn't use the school system will fight for their tax breaks.
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hell no, they deserve to put their children first and allow them to develop the necessary social skills to survive in the world.

It is a choice, not a privilege. You are not entitled to anything.
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Don't believe the HYPE....they are just trying to locate "non-players" in their little scheme...protect your kids, don't take the bait!
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Yes they do.

I home schooled my daughter. As a homeowner I was paying property tax to support public schools while also paying for private classes.


I am home schooling my daughter & the school district is paying for the materials to do it.

I've looked at my property tax statement & the amount of money they are paying for her curriculum is about the same that I paid in for property taxes.
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Excellent! This is as it should be.
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In that case. I don't have any kids in school. Why should I have to pay school taxes. huffy
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Heck yeah!!

We have no children, but our taxes pay for people who send their kids to public school. If you teach your kids at home, you should get a tax break. Parents who homes school are not taking my tax money! So to answer your question yes, yes!
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hell no, they deserve to put their children first and allow them to develop the necessary social skills to survive in the world.

It is a choice, not a privilege. You are not entitled to anything.
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Homeschooled children can develop social skills without being put into government run schools.

The new Miss America is homeschooled.

People who think homeschooled kids are socially inadequate obviously haven't met many homeschooled kids.
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In that case. I don't have any kids in school. Why should I have to pay school taxes. huffy
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I completely understand your POV.
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However, home-schoold children need to show documentation that they are following an approved course of study
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7491t9 Now there's a can of worms.
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I have seen more than my fair share of home-schooled
that are just plain stupid....too often its parents that
dont care, they dont want to get up in the morning and send
their children to school. They dont want to deal with the
administration when little joey is being disruptive or
cutting out. I am not saying all but alot of home-schooling
is yet another dodge for the parents and a continuing of
the dumbing down of America.
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vouchers = win
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In that case. I don't have any kids in school. Why should I have to pay school taxes. huffy
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Because you got a free education too, assuming you went to public schools.
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Yes. And, people that send their children to private/parochial schools should get a property tax break.

Will it happen...Nooooooooooo!

Greedy, controlling government.
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I can't believe how uneducated you people are on issues regarding taxes. Are you aware that people with NO children and seniors, who no longer have children in school, pay school taxes?

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In that case. I don't have any kids in school. Why should I have to pay school taxes. huffy
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My thoughts exactly. If you give homeschoolers a break, then it's only fair that you give childless taxpayers a break - and it will go on and on.

So, no. It's not the best system, but nobody said taxes were tied into what people use individually.
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Yes. And, people that send their children to private/parochial schools should get a property tax break.

Will it happen...Nooooooooooo!

Greedy, controlling government.


I can't believe how uneducated you people are on issues regarding taxes. Are you aware that people with NO children and seniors, who no longer have childen in school, pay school taxes?
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I am well aware. They also got educated in this country on the taxpayer's dime. Someone had to be for the education of a citizenry. It should be everyone who is benefitting from that education in some way and I think everyone does benefit from an educated society.
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Oops, I meant to say "someone has to pay" not someone had to be lol. Just woke up. This issue interests me because I thought about homeschooling too. I don't really pay taxes, we are too low-income, but if it were a refundable tax credit that would definitely spark my interest. Just a little extra cash at home could keep me as a stay-at-home mom for longer, and frankly my 1st grader's school is not up to par due to that it serves a largely immigrant student body so a lot of the energy is focused on trying to teach them English.
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However, home-schoold children need to show documentation that they are following an approved course of study

:7491t9: Now there's a can of worms.
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Isn't it though? LOL The problem is that without such a regulation, you would have low-life parents pulling their kids out of school just to collect the money. I see such parents all the time, trying to get their kids qualified as being disabled so that they can collect SSI. They take a kid, give him no home support, refuse to work with the child at home (reading, math facts, etc.), keep him out of school for a few days every month, and the child falls behind. Prove he has a speech or language impediment, ADHD, etc. - and he's now disabed and cannot access the curriculum to the extent that a normal student can. Makes me sick the extent some of these people go to in order to get "free" money. If they spent as much time actually working as they do scheming to get out of work, they would be so much better off.

Real and serious home-school parents are already following a course of study and it wouldn't be a big deal for them to prove educational progress.
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Oops, I meant to say "someone has to pay" not someone had to be lol. Just woke up. This issue interests me because I thought about homeschooling too. I don't really pay taxes, we are too low-income, but if it were a refundable tax credit that would definitely spark my interest. Just a little extra cash at home could keep me as a stay-at-home mom for longer, and frankly my 1st grader's school is not up to par due to that it serves a largely immigrant student body so a lot of the energy is focused on trying to teach them English.
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Someone has to pay for the illegals to learn English. It's certainly not their parents.
(That was sarcasm) But pay up, Pedro needs Engrish.
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What about those of us who dont have any kids?
Wheres my rebate? I pay 2.3% school tax in my city and have no kids, and if I did I damn sure wouldnt send them to the public schools here.
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Yes they do.

I home schooled my daughter. As a homeowner I was paying property tax to support public schools while also paying for private classes.
 Quoting: Cactus Mark


As a homeowner WITHOUT CHILDREN, I would like a property tax break as well.
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Yes they do.

I home schooled my daughter. As a homeowner I was paying property tax to support public schools while also paying for private classes.


As a homeowner WITHOUT CHILDREN, I would like a property tax break as well.
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Ditto for parochial school parents.
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