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Scientists 'Discover' Nibiru, but call it Tyche ... O RLY?

 
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Scientists 'Discover' Nibiru, but call it Tyche ... O RLY?
Yea Yea I know ... it's the old story. When was the first one ... 1983? Then again two days ago then ... OOOKAY ... but this time is going to be OFFICIALLY folks!!! In April, not on the first LOL, but with NASA you never know!

We may have lost Pluto, but it looks like we might be getting Tyche (aka Nibiru).

Scientists may soon be able to prove the existence of the gas giant, which could be four times the size of Jupiter, according to astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. The two first proposed Tyche's existence in order to explain a change in path of comets entering the solar system, according to The Independent.
So how could we have missed such a massive planet in our own solar system?

Well, it's 15,000 times further from the sun than Earth, according to Gizmodo. Tyche (if it does exist) lies in the Oort cloud, the outer shell of asteroids in our solar system.

Despite what the scientists believe they will find in the data (which will be released in April and was collected by NASA Wise space telescope), there is at least one flaw in their theory. Theoretically, a planet of Tyche's size should seriously disturb comets in the inner Oort Cloud, but that effect is yet to have been observed.

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interesting (not a nibrutard here)
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NOBODY HAS DISCOVERED ANYTHING.

THERE IS NO HARD EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THESE CLAIMS.
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NOBODY HAS DISCOVERED ANYTHING.

THERE IS NO HARD EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THESE CLAIMS.
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OOOOHHH LOL don't be so angry pal. If you got no time to wait than just listen the music :) and walk away!

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The Destroyer is upon us.
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Re: Scientists 'Discover' Nibiru, but call it Tyche ... O RLY?
NOBODY HAS DISCOVERED ANYTHING.

THERE IS NO HARD EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THESE CLAIMS.
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OOOOHHH LOL don't be so angry pal. If you got no time to wait than just listen the music :) and walk away!

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rockon
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It's at the edge of the solar system.

Trillions of miles away.

The proposal for such an object also dates back to 1986, and it's still hypothetical.

I worry about humanity's future if imbeciles like you who can't read, apparently, are destined to continue it.
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Re: Scientists 'Discover' Nibiru, but call it Tyche ... O RLY?
Any idea why Pluto was downgraded from planet status.
It was the 9th planet.
It could not remain as the ninth planet because Tyche..Nibiru...planet X whatever you want to call it has to be the ninth.
You need to understand the significance of the number nine and its multipls...19..27...36...
Its masonic stuff...I know because I am.
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Re: Scientists 'Discover' Nibiru, but call it Tyche ... O RLY?
“We’ve accumulated 10 years’ more data, double the comets we viewed to test this hypothesis,” said planetary scientist John Matese of the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. “Only now should we be able to falsify or verify that you could have a Jupiter-mass object out there.”

In 1999, Matese and colleague Daniel Whitmire suggested the sun has a hidden companion that boots icy bodies from the Oort Cloud, a spherical haze of comets at the solar system’s fringes, into the inner solar system where we can see them.
In a new analysis of observations dating back to 1898, Matese and Whitmire confirm their original idea: About 20 percent of the comets visible from Earth were sent by a dark, distant planet.

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I worry about humanity's future if imbeciles like you who can't read, apparently, are destined to continue it.
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You worry too much, retard!

Go run to mama and cry LOL LOL LOL
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Re: Scientists 'Discover' Nibiru, but call it Tyche ... O RLY?
This idea was a reaction to an earlier notion that a dim brown-dwarf or red-dwarf star, ominously dubbed Nemesis, has pummeled the Earth with deadly comet showers every 30 million years or so. Later research suggested that mass extinctions on Earth don’t line up with the Nemesis predictions, so many astronomers now think that object doesn’t exist.
“But we began to ask, what kind of an object could you hope to infer from the present data that we are seeing?” Matese said. “What could possibly tickle [comets'] orbits and make them come very close to the sun so we could see them?”

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I worry about humanity's future if imbeciles like you who can't read, apparently, are destined to continue it.
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You worry too much, retard!

Go run to mama and cry LOL LOL LOL
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The wit of a Nibiru believer on display for all to see.

Not very gifted, are you? Not only can you not read, you also insult people when they call you out on misconstruing simple sentences even a toddler could comprehend.

PXers aren't exactly known for their colossal intellect, though.
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NOBODY HAS DISCOVERED ANYTHING.

THERE IS NO HARD EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THESE CLAIMS.
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There is that, and the fact that EVEN IF they verify it, Its not what the ancients would call nibiru.

At 15,000 AU out, its not visible without massive aid.

ANYONE who thinks this is nibiru is retarded. Anyone who thinks the ancients knew about this is retarded.

For that matter, anyone who thinks a nibiru exists as nibiru is generally described is retarded.
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PXers aren't exactly known for their colossal intellect, though.
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U don't know what are youtalking about fucking retard idiot!
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I worry about humanity's future if imbeciles like you who can't read, apparently, are destined to continue it.
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You worry too much, retard!

Go run to mama and cry LOL LOL LOL
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Why does one have to be an imbecile to believe in the ancient writings of Sumer? I guess that coward thinks the US has Sumer in lockdown by accident.

News papers are barking wildly all around the treed planet brown dwarf mystery daily.
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This idea was a reaction to an earlier notion that a dim brown-dwarf or red-dwarf star, ominously dubbed Nemesis, has pummeled the Earth with deadly comet showers every 30 million years or so. Later research suggested that mass extinctions on Earth don’t line up with the Nemesis predictions, so many astronomers now think that object doesn’t exist.
“But we began to ask, what kind of an object could you hope to infer from the present data that we are seeing?” Matese said. “What could possibly tickle [comets'] orbits and make them come very close to the sun so we could see them?”

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...

Computational models show that comets in each of these scenarios, when their apparent origins are mapped in space, make a characteristic pattern in the sky.
“We looked at the patterns and asked, ‘Is there additional evidence of a pattern that might be associated with a passing star or with a bound object?’” Matese said.
After examining the orbits of more than 100 comets in the Minor Planet Center database, the researchers concluded that 80 percent of comets born in the Oort Cloud were pushed out by the galaxy’s gravity. The remaining 20 percent, however, needed a nudge from a distant object about 1.4 times the mass of Jupiter.

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This idea was a reaction to an earlier notion that a dim brown-dwarf or red-dwarf star, ominously dubbed Nemesis, has pummeled the Earth with deadly comet showers every 30 million years or so. Later research suggested that mass extinctions on Earth don’t line up with the Nemesis predictions, so many astronomers now think that object doesn’t exist.
“But we began to ask, what kind of an object could you hope to infer from the present data that we are seeing?” Matese said. “What could possibly tickle [comets'] orbits and make them come very close to the sun so we could see them?”

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the current quotes on the size of this thing put it well out of brown dwarf OR red dwarf territory.

Its not nibiru. There IS no nibiru.
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This idea was a reaction to an earlier notion that a dim brown-dwarf or red-dwarf star, ominously dubbed Nemesis, has pummeled the Earth with deadly comet showers every 30 million years or so. Later research suggested that mass extinctions on Earth don’t line up with the Nemesis predictions, so many astronomers now think that object doesn’t exist.
“But we began to ask, what kind of an object could you hope to infer from the present data that we are seeing?” Matese said. “What could possibly tickle [comets'] orbits and make them come very close to the sun so we could see them?”

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the current quotes on the size of this thing put it well out of brown dwarf OR red dwarf territory.

Its not nibiru. There IS no nibiru.
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Can you provide evidence that there is no Nibiru?
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NOBODY HAS DISCOVERED ANYTHING.

THERE IS NO HARD EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THESE CLAIMS.
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OOOOHHH LOL don't be so angry pal. If you got no time to wait than just listen the music :) and walk away!

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rockon
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Its incredible that you shun those who are correct.
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Why does one have to be an imbecile to believe in the ancient writings of Sumer? I guess that coward thinks the US has Sumer in lockdown by accident.

News papers are barking wildly all around the treed planet brown dwarf mystery daily.
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Yes, I ask the same thing! Why imbeciles are coming here like flies on the shit LOL

News "papers" are just transfer informations from the SCIENTISTS you know - SCIENTISTS - fucktards

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PXers aren't exactly known for their colossal intellect, though.
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U don't know what are youtalking about fucking retard idiot!
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Um, I do.

I see another braindead fuckwit believing that a hypothetical object that is nowhere near us is an imaginary planet.

And once again, you lash out when faced with facts.

So, you can't read, you can't argue, and you can't take facts well. Anything else I missed?

And to the other guy who mentioned Sumer, please don't believe in Sitchin's twisted interpretation of it.

And even if you do, at least know that his Nibiru is set to arrive in 2900.
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This idea was a reaction to an earlier notion that a dim brown-dwarf or red-dwarf star, ominously dubbed Nemesis, has pummeled the Earth with deadly comet showers every 30 million years or so. Later research suggested that mass extinctions on Earth don’t line up with the Nemesis predictions, so many astronomers now think that object doesn’t exist.
“But we began to ask, what kind of an object could you hope to infer from the present data that we are seeing?” Matese said. “What could possibly tickle [comets'] orbits and make them come very close to the sun so we could see them?”

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...

Computational models show that comets in each of these scenarios, when their apparent origins are mapped in space, make a characteristic pattern in the sky.
“We looked at the patterns and asked, ‘Is there additional evidence of a pattern that might be associated with a passing star or with a bound object?’” Matese said.
After examining the orbits of more than 100 comets in the Minor Planet Center database, the researchers concluded that 80 percent of comets born in the Oort Cloud were pushed out by the galaxy’s gravity. The remaining 20 percent, however, needed a nudge from a distant object about 1.4 times the mass of Jupiter.

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“Something smaller than Jovian mass wouldn’t be strong enough to do the deed,” Matese said. “Something more massive, like a brown dwarf, would give a much stronger signal than the 20 percent we assert.”
There’s one problem, however. The pattern only works for comets that come from the spherical outer Oort Cloud, which extends from about 0.3 to 0.8 light-years from the sun. Comets from the flatter, more doughnut-shaped inner Oort Cloud don’t create the same distinctive pattern.
“That’s troubling,” Matese said. “It requires an entirely new dynamical explanation for how inner Oort Cloud comets are made observable.”

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This idea was a reaction to an earlier notion that a dim brown-dwarf or red-dwarf star, ominously dubbed Nemesis, has pummeled the Earth with deadly comet showers every 30 million years or so. Later research suggested that mass extinctions on Earth don’t line up with the Nemesis predictions, so many astronomers now think that object doesn’t exist.
“But we began to ask, what kind of an object could you hope to infer from the present data that we are seeing?” Matese said. “What could possibly tickle [comets'] orbits and make them come very close to the sun so we could see them?”

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...

Computational models show that comets in each of these scenarios, when their apparent origins are mapped in space, make a characteristic pattern in the sky.
“We looked at the patterns and asked, ‘Is there additional evidence of a pattern that might be associated with a passing star or with a bound object?’” Matese said.
After examining the orbits of more than 100 comets in the Minor Planet Center database, the researchers concluded that 80 percent of comets born in the Oort Cloud were pushed out by the galaxy’s gravity. The remaining 20 percent, however, needed a nudge from a distant object about 1.4 times the mass of Jupiter.

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...

“Something smaller than Jovian mass wouldn’t be strong enough to do the deed,” Matese said. “Something more massive, like a brown dwarf, would give a much stronger signal than the 20 percent we assert.”
There’s one problem, however. The pattern only works for comets that come from the spherical outer Oort Cloud, which extends from about 0.3 to 0.8 light-years from the sun. Comets from the flatter, more doughnut-shaped inner Oort Cloud don’t create the same distinctive pattern.
“That’s troubling,” Matese said. “It requires an entirely new dynamical explanation for how inner Oort Cloud comets are made observable.”

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...

That the same weird pattern from 1999 is still there today “definitely makes it a stronger case than past papers,” said planetary scientist Nathan Kaib of the Canadian Institute for Theoretical Astrophysics, who was not involved in the new work. But he would still like to see more data.
“I think this whole issue will be resolved in the next five to 10 years, because there’s surveys coming on line … that will dwarf the comet sample we have today,” he said. “Whether these types of asymmetries in the directions that comets are coming from actually do exist or not will definitely be hammered out by those surveys.”

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This idea was a reaction to an earlier notion that a dim brown-dwarf or red-dwarf star, ominously dubbed Nemesis, has pummeled the Earth with deadly comet showers every 30 million years or so. Later research suggested that mass extinctions on Earth don’t line up with the Nemesis predictions, so many astronomers now think that object doesn’t exist.
“But we began to ask, what kind of an object could you hope to infer from the present data that we are seeing?” Matese said. “What could possibly tickle [comets'] orbits and make them come very close to the sun so we could see them?”

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the current quotes on the size of this thing put it well out of brown dwarf OR red dwarf territory.

Its not nibiru. There IS no nibiru.
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Can you provide evidence that there is no Nibiru?
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The case has to be demonstrated beyond the burden of proof first. No one has done that. So there is nothing to debunk.

You stupid fucks simply dont get this. I know it takes all of your not-considerable brain power to come up with these weak ass claims in the first place, but this isnt even 2nd grade level.
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This idea was a reaction to an earlier notion that a dim brown-dwarf or red-dwarf star, ominously dubbed Nemesis, has pummeled the Earth with deadly comet showers every 30 million years or so. Later research suggested that mass extinctions on Earth don�t line up with the Nemesis predictions, so many astronomers now think that object doesn�t exist.
�But we began to ask, what kind of an object could you hope to infer from the present data that we are seeing?� Matese said. �What could possibly tickle [comets'] orbits and make them come very close to the sun so we could see them?�

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the current quotes on the size of this thing put it well out of brown dwarf OR red dwarf territory.

Its not nibiru. There IS no nibiru.
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Can you provide evidence that there is no Nibiru?
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Hm, let's see.

An object of Nibiru's mass, according to gravity simulations,, would have hurled the outer planets out of orbit in the early to mid 90s. Whether it would be a brown dwarf or a planet, it would be visible to the naked eye.

Haven't seen anything in that field.

All the documents that supposedly 'support' the existence of such an object are misconstrued by people who bend them to support their little theories, like the IRAS discovery in 1983. Two little facts: the first is that the ULIRGs were actually discovered seven weeks before the Washington Post publication, and they were initially not deemed newsworthy. The second is that the objects, being ultra-luminous infra-red galaxies, are extra-galactic. The nearest one to us, Arp 220, is 250 million lightyears away.

Hiding behind the Sun is an astronomical impossibility, as it would get caught in the gravitational pull, not to mention we go around each side of the Sun once every six months, and to be a binary twin it would still have to be several hundred AU away at the least, and hence easily detectable even if it was a brown dwarf because they reflect light, and there's been no evidence in pictures aside from buffoons misidentifying planets, stars, or using Googlesky and Wikisky images of patches that, when the plate data is seen, have nothing of note in them.

So where's anything that supports the existence of such an object?

Do keep in mind that the collision was meant to take place in 2003.
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The case has to be demonstrated beyond the burden of proof first. No one has done that. So there is nothing to debunk.

You stupid fucks simply dont get this. I know it takes all of your not-considerable brain power to come up with these weak ass claims in the first place, but this isnt even 2nd grade level.
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So you can provide no proof of your claims, yet you can state unequivocally that Nibiru does NOT exist.

How can you be taken seriously?
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...Despite what the scientists believe they will find in the data (which will be released in April and was collected by NASA Wise space telescope), there is at least one flaw in their theory. Theoretically, a planet of Tyche's size should seriously disturb comets in the inner Oort Cloud, but that effect is yet to have been observed.
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“I think this whole issue will be resolved in the next five to 10 years, because there’s surveys coming on line … that will dwarf the comet sample we have today,” he said. “Whether these types of asymmetries in the directions that comets are coming from actually do exist or not will definitely be hammered out by those surveys.”

We may not have to wait that long, Matese said. An object like Tyche could be seen directly by WISE, NASA’s infrared space telescope.

“We anticipate that this WISE is going to falsify or verify our conjecture,” he said. “We just have to be patient.”


Well, easier to say than to see this in reality.. oops.. on this forum. Some are more clever than bunch of scientist altogether LOL


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This idea was a reaction to an earlier notion that a dim brown-dwarf or red-dwarf star, ominously dubbed Nemesis, has pummeled the Earth with deadly comet showers every 30 million years or so. Later research suggested that mass extinctions on Earth don�t line up with the Nemesis predictions, so many astronomers now think that object doesn�t exist.
�But we began to ask, what kind of an object could you hope to infer from the present data that we are seeing?� Matese said. �What could possibly tickle [comets'] orbits and make them come very close to the sun so we could see them?�

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the current quotes on the size of this thing put it well out of brown dwarf OR red dwarf territory.

Its not nibiru. There IS no nibiru.
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Can you provide evidence that there is no Nibiru?
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Hm, let's see.

An object of Nibiru's mass, according to gravity simulations,, would have hurled the outer planets out of orbit in the early to mid 90s. Whether it would be a brown dwarf or a planet, it would be visible to the naked eye.

Haven't seen anything in that field.

All the documents that supposedly 'support' the existence of such an object are misconstrued by people who bend them to support their little theories, like the IRAS discovery in 1983. Two little facts: the first is that the ULIRGs were actually discovered seven weeks before the Washington Post publication, and they were initially not deemed newsworthy. The second is that the objects, being ultra-luminous infra-red galaxies, are extra-galactic. The nearest one to us, Arp 220, is 250 million lightyears away.

Hiding behind the Sun is an astronomical impossibility, as it would get caught in the gravitational pull, not to mention we go around each side of the Sun once every six months, and to be a binary twin it would still have to be several hundred AU away at the least, and hence easily detectable even if it was a brown dwarf because they reflect light, and there's been no evidence in pictures aside from buffoons misidentifying planets, stars, or using Googlesky and Wikisky images of patches that, when the plate data is seen, have nothing of note in them.

So where's anything that supports the existence of such an object?

Do keep in mind that the collision was meant to take place in 2003.
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your explanations, while very accurate and valid, are useless to the types who believe a nibiru exists. They have gross misunderstandings of the way physics works that you will have to correct the numerous problems with them before they can even begin to understand why your explanation is so damaging to their case.
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Hm, let's see.

An object of Nibiru's mass, according to gravity simulations,, would have hurled the outer planets out of orbit in the early to mid 90s. Whether it would be a brown dwarf or a planet, it would be visible to the naked eye.

Haven't seen anything in that field.

All the documents that supposedly 'support' the existence of such an object are misconstrued by people who bend them to support their little theories, like the IRAS discovery in 1983. Two little facts: the first is that the ULIRGs were actually discovered seven weeks before the Washington Post publication, and they were initially not deemed newsworthy. The second is that the objects, being ultra-luminous infra-red galaxies, are extra-galactic. The nearest one to us, Arp 220, is 250 million lightyears away.

Hiding behind the Sun is an astronomical impossibility, as it would get caught in the gravitational pull, not to mention we go around each side of the Sun once every six months, and to be a binary twin it would still have to be several hundred AU away at the least, and hence easily detectable even if it was a brown dwarf because they reflect light, and there's been no evidence in pictures aside from buffoons misidentifying planets, stars, or using Googlesky and Wikisky images of patches that, when the plate data is seen, have nothing of note in them.

So where's anything that supports the existence of such an object?

Do keep in mind that the collision was meant to take place in 2003.
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Does one input imaginary data to figure the orbit of an imaginary planet? I hardly call that proof of non-existence.

You read to much Zeta Talk for your on good.
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...Despite what the scientists believe they will find in the data (which will be released in April and was collected by NASA Wise space telescope), there is at least one flaw in their theory. Theoretically, a planet of Tyche's size should seriously disturb comets in the inner Oort Cloud, but that effect is yet to have been observed.
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“I think this whole issue will be resolved in the next five to 10 years, because there’s surveys coming on line … that will dwarf the comet sample we have today,” he said. “Whether these types of asymmetries in the directions that comets are coming from actually do exist or not will definitely be hammered out by those surveys.”

We may not have to wait that long, Matese said. An object like Tyche could be seen directly by WISE, NASA’s infrared space telescope.

“We anticipate that this WISE is going to falsify or verify our conjecture,” he said. “We just have to be patient.”


Well, easier to say than to see this in reality.. oops.. on this forum. Some are more clever than bunch of scientist altogether LOL


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And until April, you are a fucktard for trying to assert anything, because you have no evidence.

Once evidence is available, THEN you are able to make an educated statement on this.

Oh, and newspaper reports of scientific discoveries are frequently far different than the actual discoveries. Newspaper journalists tend to be lazy when it comes to reporting, and will simply repeat any info they find, be it good info or not.

The very fact that they are reporting a four jupiter mass object as a brown dwarf is perfect evidence of this. If you do not understand why this is the case, then its very likely that you have no fucking idea what the hell you are talking about on this subject, unless your comment includes the phrase "i dont know".
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the current quotes on the size of this thing put it well out of brown dwarf OR red dwarf territory.

Its not nibiru. There IS no nibiru.
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Can you provide evidence that there is no Nibiru?
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Hm, let's see.

An object of Nibiru's mass, according to gravity simulations,, would have hurled the outer planets out of orbit in the early to mid 90s. Whether it would be a brown dwarf or a planet, it would be visible to the naked eye.

Haven't seen anything in that field.

All the documents that supposedly 'support' the existence of such an object are misconstrued by people who bend them to support their little theories, like the IRAS discovery in 1983. Two little facts: the first is that the ULIRGs were actually discovered seven weeks before the Washington Post publication, and they were initially not deemed newsworthy. The second is that the objects, being ultra-luminous infra-red galaxies, are extra-galactic. The nearest one to us, Arp 220, is 250 million lightyears away.

Hiding behind the Sun is an astronomical impossibility, as it would get caught in the gravitational pull, not to mention we go around each side of the Sun once every six months, and to be a binary twin it would still have to be several hundred AU away at the least, and hence easily detectable even if it was a brown dwarf because they reflect light, and there's been no evidence in pictures aside from buffoons misidentifying planets, stars, or using Googlesky and Wikisky images of patches that, when the plate data is seen, have nothing of note in them.

So where's anything that supports the existence of such an object?

Do keep in mind that the collision was meant to take place in 2003.
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your explanations, while very accurate and valid, are useless to the types who believe a nibiru exists. They have gross misunderstandings of the way physics works that you will have to correct the numerous problems with them before they can even begin to understand why your explanation is so damaging to their case.
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Hm, let's see.

An object of Nibiru's mass, according to gravity simulations,, would have hurled the outer planets out of orbit in the early to mid 90s. Whether it would be a brown dwarf or a planet, it would be visible to the naked eye.

Haven't seen anything in that field.

All the documents that supposedly 'support' the existence of such an object are misconstrued by people who bend them to support their little theories, like the IRAS discovery in 1983. Two little facts: the first is that the ULIRGs were actually discovered seven weeks before the Washington Post publication, and they were initially not deemed newsworthy. The second is that the objects, being ultra-luminous infra-red galaxies, are extra-galactic. The nearest one to us, Arp 220, is 250 million lightyears away.

Hiding behind the Sun is an astronomical impossibility, as it would get caught in the gravitational pull, not to mention we go around each side of the Sun once every six months, and to be a binary twin it would still have to be several hundred AU away at the least, and hence easily detectable even if it was a brown dwarf because they reflect light, and there's been no evidence in pictures aside from buffoons misidentifying planets, stars, or using Googlesky and Wikisky images of patches that, when the plate data is seen, have nothing of note in them.

So where's anything that supports the existence of such an object?

Do keep in mind that the collision was meant to take place in 2003.
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Does one input imaginary data to figure the orbit of an imaginary planet? I hardly call that proof of non-existence.

You read to much Zeta Talk for your on good.
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How the fuck did you come to that conclusion?

The commonly-held belief of what Nibiru is is that it is a brown dwarf, or a planet, with five to ten times the mass of Jupiter.

I've also never visited Zeta Talk, and never intend to. Nice jab there.

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