The op speaks with great forked tongue. I personally know Drunvalo and I can assure all those reading the op's drivel that he is either full of it, or is trying to discredit Drunvalo because of Dan winters bull. Are you by chance the same jewish character who brought the law suit against Dan for some trivial bullshit? Anyway, either Drunvalo was putting on a show for his own entertainment or to get you off the phone. LOL! He describes "lucifer" as always, as a consciousness unit embedded in the mind of the creator which created a unique position for consciousness as we know it to expand. I seriously doubt that he would have said such a thing or "channeled" "lucifer" unless it was a joke put on for his own amusement or the most likely alternative, you are either lying your ass off or embellishing. Good night madam or sire!