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BREAKING!! Fukushima plant evacuated: RADIATION 10 MILLION TIMES NORMAL LEVEL

 
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TEPCO just announced the recent spike in levels an error, breaking on Twitter, AP, Kyodo.hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309784


We have the 'worse than Chernobyl' confirmation video... so these values are largely irrelevant now.
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[link to www.nisa.meti.go.jp]
March 26, 2011
Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency
Regarding the result of concentration measurement in the stagnant water on the basement floor of the turbine building of Unit 1 of Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Station
Regarding the issue above, as the result of concentration measurement of each radioactive nuclide was reported from Tokyo Electric Power Company, it is informed as attached.
(Contact Person)
Mr. Toshihiro Bannai
Director, International Affairs Office, NISA/METI
Phone:+81-(0)3-3501-1087
(Tentative Translation)
March 25th, 2011
Tokyo Electric Power Co.
Fukushima Dai-ichi NPS
Regarding the result of concentration measurement in the stagnant water on the basement floor of the turbine building of Unit 1 of Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Station
Radioactive Nuclide
Concentration (Bq/cm3)
Cl-38 1.6×106
As-74 3.9×102
Y-91 5.2×104
I-131 2.1×105
Cs-134 1.6×105
Cs136 1.7×104
Cs-137 1.8×106
La-140 3.4×102

What's bad is the isotope make up. Numbers above 106, 102, etc... Thats 10 to the 6th 10 to the 2nd etc... . What's bad is some of those have half-lifes of less than 10 mins. Fission is still occuring and somehow is leaking. It doesn't matter at this point if it's the core or cooling pool we have an uncontrolled critical mass. Remember the neutrons? I apologize if this has been posted in another thread. Would like to see input from those with a background on what it takes to get that type of Cl-38 level from seawater.
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Operators of troubled Japan nuclear plant say huge spike in radiation levels was a mistake - AP [link to www.breakingnews.com]

More on Japan plant's water radiation levels: Operators say extremely high reading of 10 million times the normal level was inaccurate - AP [link to www.breakingnews.com]
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[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

TOKYO — Emergency workers struggling to pump contaminated water from Japan's stricken nuclear complex fled from one of the troubled reactors Sunday after reporting a huge increase in radioactivity – a spike that officials later apologetically said was inaccurate.bsflag
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Operators of troubled Japan nuclear plant say huge spike in radiation levels was a mistake - AP [link to www.breakingnews.com]

More on Japan plant's water radiation levels: Operators say extremely high reading of 10 million times the normal level was inaccurate - AP [link to www.breakingnews.com]
 Quoting: David the Clairvoyant


Yeah. It's only a million times normal. Sheesh.
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[link to www.nisa.meti.go.jp]
March 26, 2011
Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency
Regarding the result of concentration measurement in the stagnant water on the basement floor of the turbine building of Unit 1 of Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Station
Regarding the issue above, as the result of concentration measurement of each radioactive nuclide was reported from Tokyo Electric Power Company, it is informed as attached.
(Contact Person)
Mr. Toshihiro Bannai
Director, International Affairs Office, NISA/METI
Phone:+81-(0)3-3501-1087
(Tentative Translation)
March 25th, 2011
Tokyo Electric Power Co.
Fukushima Dai-ichi NPS
Regarding the result of concentration measurement in the stagnant water on the basement floor of the turbine building of Unit 1 of Fukushima Dai-ichi Nuclear Power Station
Radioactive Nuclide
Concentration (Bq/cm3)
Cl-38 1.6×106
As-74 3.9×102
Y-91 5.2×104
I-131 2.1×105
Cs-134 1.6×105
Cs136 1.7×104
Cs-137 1.8×106
La-140 3.4×102

What's bad is the isotope make up. Numbers above 106, 102, etc... Thats 10 to the 6th 10 to the 2nd etc... . What's bad is some of those have half-lifes of less than 10 mins. Fission is still occuring and somehow is leaking. It doesn't matter at this point if it's the core or cooling pool we have an uncontrolled critical mass. Remember the neutrons? I apologize if this has been posted in another thread. Would like to see input from those with a background on what it takes to get that type of Cl-38 level from seawater.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1266868

Very interesting... thank you

BBC just reported the "mistake" but they did say that it's still an exceedingly high level of radioactivity.

I'd be very interested in an eductaed breakdown of those numbers too...
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lol... or educated even!
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Re: BREAKING!! Fukushima plant evacuated: RADIATION 10 MILLION TIMES NORMAL LEVEL
Local news here started then abruptly stopped a breaking Fukushima news alert just 15 minutes ago...

whatever
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03/27/2011 09:19 AM
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There seems to be "alot of mistakes" happening over there.

Seems like they are getting out info then comes the phone call to change it.

Also looks like the gun is being pointed at the head right now.....
Hmmmm.....
Whatever happens doesn't look good.
All I know I already stocked up on supplies. Even if nothing comes over here The food prices will go wayyyyy up.
Politics Right?
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Learning from history it would seem necessary to cover them in mounds of earth and concrete before a meltdown - one meltdown =4 meltdowns as I assume that it would spread and the sheer energy would cause the others to heat out of control.

Japan has been lucky to date as the winds have not turned.
In the winter winds are blowing to the east and in the summer to the west.I expect this to happen anytime now....

I dread this turn if there is not a conclusion soon
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03/27/2011 09:24 AM
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Re: BREAKING!! Fukushima plant evacuated: RADIATION 10 MILLION TIMES NORMAL LEVEL
Reuters news just said that the Japanese have said it was an error in reading..it was not that high ..they are taking new readings.
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It´s a spin.

A spin like "gaddafis troups place bodies were the alliance did airstrike"

I mean, come on, you do not have to be braindead to believe that, you have to be a f... biorobot.
Heisenberg may have been here !
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03/27/2011 09:25 AM
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The deterioration and embrittlement of the zircaloy clading at elevated temperature will eventually release the sintered ceramic uranium pellets held within which will then collect at the bottom of the reactor vessel.

And since the fallen uranium/MOx pellets will not have the benefit of the boron impregnated control rods to stop the fission reactions...

Fission reactions will start again creating enormous amounts of heat that will eventually melt the bottom out of the pressure vessel and deposit the contents onto the floor beneath the reactor as full or partial meltdown ensues.

What happens after that depends largely on how the 150 tons per reactor (hopefully less) of fissile fuel rod contents ends up on the floor with the molten steel.

If dispersed the reaction may slow or cease. If not? Down down she goes!

And let's not even talk about the spent fuel ponds since the immediate area around the complex will have to be evacuated almost certainly resulting in two more meltdowns.

And then there is the wind.

It's to late, we are someplace in this scenario. Radiation levels are so high we can not get close enough to stop it.
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03/27/2011 09:26 AM
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This is proof reactor #2 is cracked severely AND the fuel rods have gone critical already.

The Corium is probably at the bottom of the vessel now. The problem with melted fuel is the distance between the rods is now zero. The fissile strength skyrockets. High radiation is a sign this has happened.

It also means it will be impossible to stop the Corium blob chain reaction. It is probably 6000-8000 degrees F in the reactor right now.
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03/27/2011 09:27 AM
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As long as they can keep the water contained it remains a local problem but the rising sea water radiation levels makes me think that's not the case,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280804


can't contain the Pacific Ocean.
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they'll correct it to a mere NINE MILLION TIMES ABOVE LEGAL LIMIT like it's a fucking victory or something

sheesh!
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This is proof reactor #2 is cracked severely AND the fuel rods have gone critical already.

The Corium is probably at the bottom of the vessel now. The problem with melted fuel is the distance between the rods is now zero. The fissile strength skyrockets. High radiation is a sign this has happened.

It also means it will be impossible to stop the Corium blob chain reaction. It is probably 6000-8000 degrees F in the reactor right now.
 Quoting: ºCRAPº


where is algore
will this contribute to GLobal Warming?
seriously.
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It is probably 6000-8000 degrees F in the reactor right now.
 Quoting: ºCRAPº


This speculation would be 'put to bed' with just one or two THERMAL IMAGES like they took of the World Trade Centre thirteen days after September 11th 2001 when the ground was seen to be 'like an oven' still.
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A work in progress but very informative information on this crisis for the layman.

[link to www.sumofallfears.com]
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all witty and questioning remarks aside,
May God help the country of Japan and her people.
Please everyone, say a prayer or send some good thought.
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03/27/2011 09:33 AM
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Reuters news just said that the Japanese have said it was an error in reading..it was not that high ..they are taking new readings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1256870

How can they know if there is an error in the reading, unless they take new readings, which hasn't happened yet?

Not buying it.

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where is algore
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In one of his mansions trying to figure out how market 'Cesium Credits©' & convince the World they're a good & necessary thing.
I am a Christian.

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If they could only turn THE place into à giant swimming pool
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If they could only turn THE place into à giant swimming pool
 Quoting: Silverwing 1316353


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Dude on CNN telling the truth on CNN TV- expert but didn't catch his name...
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At a radiation level of 1,000 millisieverts per hour, people could suffer a decrease in the number of lymphocytes -- a type of white blood cell -- in just 30 minutes, and half of the people could die within 30 days by staying in such conditions for four hours.
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His views were very dire, full meltdowns and breaches- radioactivity for very large area, and problem for the world. Grave situation.
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TEPCO just announced the recent spike in levels an error, breaking on Twitter, AP, Kyodo.hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309784


We have the 'worse than Chernobyl' confirmation video... so these values are largely irrelevant now.
 Quoting: whiterussian


+1000
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I think we all know what happened here.

Gentleman took the reading, gave the numbers and freaked and got the F%ck out of there..

Told someone..

It got out...

And now to prevent mass panic they're saying its not accurate.
I dont believe it for a split second.

Come on people of the world! No government is transparent, they are trying to save their asses here and repair it before anyone notices.
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JUST GOT TWEETED - 10 MILLION TIMES NORMAL RADIATION PEOPLE. OMG....


plant operator says radioactivity in water at reactor No. 2 10 million times usual level, workers evacuated - local

media [link to twitter.com]

****Edit for BBC link****

[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Dorsi


It's not even in the top ten most viewed stories on the BBC.. Did you notice that the video footage shows all the reactors to be INTACT?

Every time the radiation rises, the IAEA and TEPCO revise their numbers of "safe" levels.

Theater of the absurd indeed.

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