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"Toddler raped but her attackers should not be punished"... | |
ClaytonB (OP) User ID: 1192046  United States04/01/2011 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I notice people making excuses for evil... I don't care how old they are...if they perform this level of evil, then no amount of playing "devil's advocate" can work... I say euthanize'em. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973795Good god, you people are really fucking dense. You do realize that this was the prevailing sentiment in Europe from, oh, say about 600AD until 1400AD, aka The Fuckin' Dark Ages??? Clayton - 1st Law of Tyranny: Dictators come and go. The people never die. - Anon The real truth that dare not speak itself is that no one is in control [of the world], absolutely no one. Now there may be entities seeking control; the World Bank, the Communist Party, the rich... But to seek control is to take enormous aggravation upon yourself because this process that is underway will take the control freak by the short and curlies and throw them against the wall. - Terence McKenna Nature has a certain order. The ants pick the food, the ants KEEP the food and the grasshoppers leave! - Princess Atta That government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. - Henry David Thoreau |
| ClaytonB (OP) User ID: 1192046 United States04/01/2011 01:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eugenics has at least one purpose: weed out the sicko gene Quoting: Corny JuiceTrouble is that the sickos are the foremost proponents and beneficiaries of eugenic policies... just look at the Nazis. Clayton - 1st Law of Tyranny: Dictators come and go. The people never die. - Anon The real truth that dare not speak itself is that no one is in control [of the world], absolutely no one. Now there may be entities seeking control; the World Bank, the Communist Party, the rich... But to seek control is to take enormous aggravation upon yourself because this process that is underway will take the control freak by the short and curlies and throw them against the wall. - Terence McKenna Nature has a certain order. The ants pick the food, the ants KEEP the food and the grasshoppers leave! - Princess Atta That government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. - Henry David Thoreau |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1322173 United States04/01/2011 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and the other part of the moral is you should of pressed charges and/or let the whole family know about him!!!! Quoting: boliskingI did let the whole family know! He moved away and got married and had kids and had I known that, I would have found a way to contact his wife and let her know what a sick fucker he is. His family is no longer part of mine (THANK GOD!!!!) As far as me pressing charges, truthfully, I was just so happy to get out of that situation that I didn't want to relive whole thing. It really messed me up and it has taken many years to come to grips with it! |
| ClaytonB (OP) User ID: 1192046 United States04/01/2011 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know that the boys should be taken out of their homes. Quoting: DebaucheryChildren that rape and murder tend to have a screw loose period. Serial killers/murderers and so on once captured have often confessed to bizarre and criminal behavior in childhood..doesn't mean their parents raised them improperly. Some people are just wired to be sickos from the start. Not that these kids are, we don't know yet what the issue is. Perhaps they were raped at home or abused in some other way..either way they need to be kept from other children and for a very long time. I don't even know how you would punish children that young for rape, they don't grasp things the way an adult would. And then there's just the possibility that while they certainly knew it was wrong (why else would they hide while doing it?), maybe they didn't understand why it was wrong beyond that they'd get in trouble if they got caught. Sex is a pretty abstract thing to pre-pubescent kids or at least it was to me when I was that age. Clayton - Children know..in my opinion, why it's wrong. I have a 5 year old and he was always uptight years ago when bathing him or changing his diaper, it was a task cleaning him as he knew no one was to go around that area. He's aware it's personal and private and not to be touched. Point being children know you don't touch (much less rape) other people in certain areas, they don't feel comfortable with it themselves (being touched) even outside of sexual touching I mean, they just know somewhere inside of their little heads that those parts are different from everything else on their bodies. I cannot for the life of me believe someone that age doesn't understand why it's wrong. Sex or touching anywhere near there, same thing, they know you don't do it. We tell our kids this, they hear it in school and on tv. They understand why it's wrong, I truly believe that. My son is just 6 and he mostly ignores the area except when going to the bathroom or taking a bath and he has yet to develop self-consciousness except around strangers and even then barely. I'm not saying there's "nothing wrong" here, clearly there is, but I think it is a serious mistake to attribute post-pubescent knowingness to pre-pubescent children... it seems to me that this is only slightly worse than if they had merely pulled her clothes off (which is wrong but probably not evil, maybe not even sick). Of course, it does depend on the details, the State will label any sort of touching "rape" so this could be anything from inappropriate groping to the unthinkable. If the unthinkable, then I don't know what to say but I don't see how grinding these children under an iron boot fixes anything and it's not clear to me that the parents or anyone else deserves the same punishment that would be appropriate in the case of an adolescent or adult raping a child... I would also be curious to know the victim's parents' reaction(s). I posted this story precisely because people don't THINK about these issues, they simply react from the gut. You got to THINK people and not be led around by your gut reaction all the time. This is why the child bureaucracies have such unholy powers. Anyone who has been unjustly on the receiving end of the child bureaucracy knows what I'm talking about. Clayton - Last Edited by ClaytonB on 04/01/2011 02:05 AM 1st Law of Tyranny: Dictators come and go. The people never die. - Anon The real truth that dare not speak itself is that no one is in control [of the world], absolutely no one. Now there may be entities seeking control; the World Bank, the Communist Party, the rich... But to seek control is to take enormous aggravation upon yourself because this process that is underway will take the control freak by the short and curlies and throw them against the wall. - Terence McKenna Nature has a certain order. The ants pick the food, the ants KEEP the food and the grasshoppers leave! - Princess Atta That government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have. - Henry David Thoreau |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1323105 United States04/01/2011 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was molested by my step brother for years. It started when I was 7 and he was 10. I didn't really know what sex was but I knew what he was doing was wrong and that I didn't like it. I grew up and really never thought to try and press charges, after all, he was underage the whole time it was happening too. He just got out of jail for molesting his own daughter. She took him to court, they gave him a slap on the wrist. Moral of the story...these types can't be rehabilitated and are inherently evil! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1322173I hate the fucking criminal justice system. People get life for growing marijuana and sick bastards like this do no time. This would be the first thing I'd fix. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1210277 United States04/01/2011 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No description of the boys, white, black ETC... Now I grew up in a black neighborhood, and all I can say is, crap goes on there that whites folks do NOT SEE, with their father knows best, picket fence, mentality. There is an absence of almost all emotions, except anger, and hate... You would have to experience it for yourselves to know what I'm talking about. Sex amongst the youngest children goes on all the time. Its not like the Crosby Show... |
