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Dr. House User ID: 1281930 United States 04/01/2011 01:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it difficult to believe that a person could live to be that large. The upper limit is slightly over 9 feet tall. Bone densities and proportions would result in no one recognizing a femur (or any other bone) from a humanoid giant as compared to some other beast. Its a matter of proportion. While the height increases slowly, mass of the body would increase fast against height. Thus a person 9 foot tall would have a mass greater than a person at 6 feet tall even of the same proportions. Further, blood flow is such that human skin and blood vessels cannot contain the blood at the feet. Robert Wadlow, the tallest man ever recorded, stood at 8 feet 11.1 inches tall. He died due to breaking blood vessels in the feet and lower legs which became infected (blood poisoning). The greater volume of blood means greater mass, which means that the pressure in the lower extremities is far greater than the blood vessels can withstand. The Heart alone would have to grow to far greater proportion to handle the extra amounts of blood. No human chest in proportion at a height greater than nearly 10 feet could contain the heart that would be needed to move the blood around. Medically speaking, its impossible for a person to get much over 9 feet tall without serious systemic failures across every bodily system. Either the height estimate is off by about 2 feet, or this is some other creature (not human) thus not technically a 'giant'. It is highly possible that it is of one of the hominid lines which died out, thus an 'apeman' sort of creature that attained a large size. A Gorilla spine, or some arm bones, or the shoulder or the pelvis could readily be mistaken as 'human' and the height estimate one would get would be far greater than the height of a gorilla, simply due to the the fact that gorillas as massive above the waist, and 'small' below the waist in comparison. Sinkhole list: Thread: Sinkholes Updated 28 Dec 2010 find a sinkhole, add it to this thread, please. "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV). |
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Oh my god (OP) User ID: 1323042 United States 04/01/2011 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it difficult to believe that a person could live to be that large. Quoting: Dr. HouseThe upper limit is slightly over 9 feet tall. Bone densities and proportions would result in no one recognizing a femur (or any other bone) from a humanoid giant as compared to some other beast. Its a matter of proportion. While the height increases slowly, mass of the body would increase fast against height. Thus a person 9 foot tall would have a mass greater than a person at 6 feet tall even of the same proportions. Further, blood flow is such that human skin and blood vessels cannot contain the blood at the feet. Robert Wadlow, the tallest man ever recorded, stood at 8 feet 11.1 inches tall. He died due to breaking blood vessels in the feet and lower legs which became infected (blood poisoning). The greater volume of blood means greater mass, which means that the pressure in the lower extremities is far greater than the blood vessels can withstand. The Heart alone would have to grow to far greater proportion to handle the extra amounts of blood. No human chest in proportion at a height greater than nearly 10 feet could contain the heart that would be needed to move the blood around. Medically speaking, its impossible for a person to get much over 9 feet tall without serious systemic failures across every bodily system. Either the height estimate is off by about 2 feet, or this is some other creature (not human) thus not technically a 'giant'. It is highly possible that it is of one of the hominid lines which died out, thus an 'apeman' sort of creature that attained a large size. A Gorilla spine, or some arm bones, or the shoulder or the pelvis could readily be mistaken as 'human' and the height estimate one would get would be far greater than the height of a gorilla, simply due to the the fact that gorillas as massive above the waist, and 'small' below the waist in comparison. The bones were examined for several years at the University of Montpellier by a number of anatomists, zoologists, and paleontologists who all concluded they were human. The height estimate was 3.5 meters according to the calculations of Prof. de Lapouge, and the lowest estimate I have seen for these bones was "at least 10 feet" by a medical bulletin. The circumference of the mid femur shaft fragment was 160 mm. That they were human bones seems to not have never been challenged. Dr. Paul Kiener of Montpellier School of medicine believed the individual was pathological after his 1892 analysis of the bones, but he said the person still must have been one of a very tall race. Other anatomists did not see pathology. The bones were found at the bottom of a human burial ground in a Neolithic cemetery. Gorillas in France are unlikely, but perhaps this was a Neanderthal? The Heidelbergensis in Africa were sometimes giants over 7 feet high, as admitted by Prof. Lee Berger of Witwatersrand. The fact remains these Castelnau bones demonstrate a length and width twice the ordinary at anatomical intervals, and a volume of more than twice. I have tried to contact the current Montpellier Univeristy regarding these bones but without success. I should mention in the same he excavated in 1890 G. de Lapouge found a very large frontal of a human skull, he believed was that of a young man of 18 years and of a morphological type common to the Dolmen builders of Lozere. He speculates the man to whom this skull belonged was likely a very tall man in excess of 2 meters stature. Other news reports from the Pyrenees and south France speak of bones rivaling the size of Castelnau, found in cemeteries and near Dolmens. One report mentions skulls 32 inches in circumference. Some of the Cro-magnon men were very tall, with estimates of 6 1/2 to 7 feet for indivduals from menton Cave, Italy. Femurs of these individuals being up to 22 inches long. Who knows. |
warpcrafter User ID: 1187872 United States 04/01/2011 04:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps it was someone who had a lot in common genetically with Gigantopithecus, the 12 foot tall ape that lived in Asia until several thousand years ago. They were most likely over 1,000 pounds, and must have had some way of overcoming the difficulties mentioned. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1318766 United Kingdom 04/01/2011 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it difficult to believe that a person could live to be that large. Quoting: Dr. HouseI tried EXPLAINING the "Growing Earth" theory with MASSIVE DINOSAURS as the proof that the Earth used to be smaller, but got the ridiculous response, "There was MORE OXYGEN back then and that's why the dinosaurs were so big." You know, POISONOUS OXYGEN, maybe that's what these GIANTS were eating, poisonous oxygen. :) |
A Voice In The Wilderness User ID: 1154005 United States 04/01/2011 04:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it difficult to believe that a person could live to be that large. Quoting: Dr. HouseWhen one understands the Bible account all these things become quite easy to understand and are quite amazing. The Truth About Thread: The FINAL EVENTS Of Bible Prophecy "We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist." - Martin Luther (Aug. 18, 1520) "While God has given ample evidence for faith, He will never remove all excuse for unbelief. All who look for hooks to hang their doubts upon will find them. And those who refuse to accept and obey God's Word until every objection has been removed, and there is no longer an opportunity for doubt, will never come to the light" (The Great Controversy, p. 527). "Jesus did not come to change the law, but he came to explain it, and that very fact shows that it remains, for there is no need to explain that which is abrogated." - Charles Spurgeon "Jesuit Adam Weishaupt established the modern version of the Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being formally abolished by Pope Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits." Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked) |
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Oh my god (OP) User ID: 1323042 United States 04/01/2011 04:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps it was someone who had a lot in common genetically with Gigantopithecus, the 12 foot tall ape that lived in Asia until several thousand years ago. They were most likely over 1,000 pounds, and must have had some way of overcoming the difficulties mentioned. Quoting: warpcrafterYou might be on to something. With all the new ape men they found every few years, I think our past was populated with massive giants 7 to 12 feet tall and tiny pygmies 3 ft tall, there may have been A LOT more diversity in the past than we can imagine. |
Oh my god (OP) User ID: 1323042 United States 04/01/2011 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps it was someone who had a lot in common genetically with Gigantopithecus, the 12 foot tall ape that lived in Asia until several thousand years ago. They were most likely over 1,000 pounds, and must have had some way of overcoming the difficulties mentioned. Quoting: warpcrafterThe anthropologist estimated the giant man at "several hundred kilos" or roughly 800 to 1100 lbs. I imagine the giant of Castelnau would have been something like this SIZE next to an average man: [link to alicia-logic.com] |
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Oh my god (OP) User ID: 1323042 United States 04/01/2011 04:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rubeus Hagridlopithicus Quoting: ExShemaleBarbiHow about "Gigantanthropus Castelnauensis" which translates to, "Giant man of Castelnau" Hell, if Dubois could pronounce a new race of ape man from a mere skull cap, femur and a couple other bones... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297389 United States 04/01/2011 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it difficult to believe that a person could live to be that large. Quoting: Dr. HouseThe upper limit is slightly over 9 feet tall. Bone densities and proportions would result in no one recognizing a femur (or any other bone) from a humanoid giant as compared to some other beast. Its a matter of proportion. While the height increases slowly, mass of the body would increase fast against height. Thus a person 9 foot tall would have a mass greater than a person at 6 feet tall even of the same proportions. Further, blood flow is such that human skin and blood vessels cannot contain the blood at the feet. Robert Wadlow, the tallest man ever recorded, stood at 8 feet 11.1 inches tall. He died due to breaking blood vessels in the feet and lower legs which became infected (blood poisoning). The greater volume of blood means greater mass, which means that the pressure in the lower extremities is far greater than the blood vessels can withstand. The Heart alone would have to grow to far greater proportion to handle the extra amounts of blood. No human chest in proportion at a height greater than nearly 10 feet could contain the heart that would be needed to move the blood around. Medically speaking, its impossible for a person to get much over 9 feet tall without serious systemic failures across every bodily system. Either the height estimate is off by about 2 feet, or this is some other creature (not human) thus not technically a 'giant'. It is highly possible that it is of one of the hominid lines which died out, thus an 'apeman' sort of creature that attained a large size. A Gorilla spine, or some arm bones, or the shoulder or the pelvis could readily be mistaken as 'human' and the height estimate one would get would be far greater than the height of a gorilla, simply due to the the fact that gorillas as massive above the waist, and 'small' below the waist in comparison. i guess you could use your calculations to explain why dinosaurs wouldnt live to be that large too eh? |
Oh my god (OP) User ID: 1323042 United States 04/01/2011 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it difficult to believe that a person could live to be that large. Quoting: Dr. HouseThe upper limit is slightly over 9 feet tall. Bone densities and proportions would result in no one recognizing a femur (or any other bone) from a humanoid giant as compared to some other beast. Its a matter of proportion. While the height increases slowly, mass of the body would increase fast against height. Thus a person 9 foot tall would have a mass greater than a person at 6 feet tall even of the same proportions. Further, blood flow is such that human skin and blood vessels cannot contain the blood at the feet. Robert Wadlow, the tallest man ever recorded, stood at 8 feet 11.1 inches tall. He died due to breaking blood vessels in the feet and lower legs which became infected (blood poisoning). The greater volume of blood means greater mass, which means that the pressure in the lower extremities is far greater than the blood vessels can withstand. The Heart alone would have to grow to far greater proportion to handle the extra amounts of blood. No human chest in proportion at a height greater than nearly 10 feet could contain the heart that would be needed to move the blood around. Medically speaking, its impossible for a person to get much over 9 feet tall without serious systemic failures across every bodily system. Either the height estimate is off by about 2 feet, or this is some other creature (not human) thus not technically a 'giant'. It is highly possible that it is of one of the hominid lines which died out, thus an 'apeman' sort of creature that attained a large size. A Gorilla spine, or some arm bones, or the shoulder or the pelvis could readily be mistaken as 'human' and the height estimate one would get would be far greater than the height of a gorilla, simply due to the the fact that gorillas as massive above the waist, and 'small' below the waist in comparison. i guess you could use your calculations to explain why dinosaurs wouldnt live to be that large too eh? Lol. And science hasn't yet even figured out how exactly bumble bees can fly. |
wing-ed User ID: 1227386 United States 04/01/2011 06:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Praise The Lamb:: Amen Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good ! |
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The_Kitner_Boy User ID: 1178880 United States 04/01/2011 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When one understands the Bible account all these things become quite easy to understand and are quite amazing. Quoting: A Voice In The WildernessYeah, right, like HUMANS CAN LIVE FOR 600 YEARS. Er, back to school. :) A much smaller earth would probably rotate much faster, meaning much quicker days and years. After every major earthquake, the earth day lengthens just a bit. Whose to say that many thousands of years ago, the earth spun much faster in addition to having much less size, density and gravit? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034753 United Kingdom 04/01/2011 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reprts of these giants, usually described as fair skinned with red hair are found all over the world, often with elongated skulls - the remains are allways 'disapeared' by museums etc because they tell a story that the bloddlines can't afford to let you in on. [link to nexusilluminati.blogspot.com] The earliest Western explorers who wrote about the giants of North America included Magellan, Sir Francis Drake, Spanish explorer Desoto, and Commodore Byron the grandfather of the famous poet, Lord Byron. Not all encounters with giants were post-mortems. A well-documented sighting by Magellan occurred in 1520 near the harbor of San Julian, Mexico. There, Magellan and his crew came upon a red-haired giant that stood nearly ten feet tall and whom Magellan described as having a “voice like a bull.” Later, Magellan learned from normal-sized natives that the giant belonged to a neighboring tribe. Remarkably, Magellan’s logs show that he and his crew captured two of these living giants and brought them aboard his ship intending to bring them back to Europe. Unfortunately the giants grew ill and they both died during the return voyage. Magellan had their remains buried at sea. Fifty-eight years later giants still roamed San Julian. None other than Sir Francis Drake recorded encountering several red-haired men who stood over nine feet tall. In the years that followed many more explorers and seafarers also reported seeing giants roaming that area. Two lesser known explorers, Jacob le Maire and Wilhelm Schouten, discovered an intact skeleton of a pair of nine-foot humans. They each entered meticulous descriptions of the skeletons in their journals. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1291112 United States 04/01/2011 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reprts of these giants, usually described as fair skinned with red hair are found all over the world, often with elongated skulls - the remains are allways 'disapeared' by museums etc because they tell a story that the bloddlines can't afford to let you in on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034753[link to nexusilluminati.blogspot.com] The earliest Western explorers who wrote about the giants of North America included Magellan, Sir Francis Drake, Spanish explorer Desoto, and Commodore Byron the grandfather of the famous poet, Lord Byron. Not all encounters with giants were post-mortems. A well-documented sighting by Magellan occurred in 1520 near the harbor of San Julian, Mexico. There, Magellan and his crew came upon a red-haired giant that stood nearly ten feet tall and whom Magellan described as having a “voice like a bull.” Later, Magellan learned from normal-sized natives that the giant belonged to a neighboring tribe. Remarkably, Magellan’s logs show that he and his crew captured two of these living giants and brought them aboard his ship intending to bring them back to Europe. Unfortunately the giants grew ill and they both died during the return voyage. Magellan had their remains buried at sea. Fifty-eight years later giants still roamed San Julian. None other than Sir Francis Drake recorded encountering several red-haired men who stood over nine feet tall. In the years that followed many more explorers and seafarers also reported seeing giants roaming that area. Two lesser known explorers, Jacob le Maire and Wilhelm Schouten, discovered an intact skeleton of a pair of nine-foot humans. They each entered meticulous descriptions of the skeletons in their journals. Whoa. Good shit man. Good read. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1322419 Netherlands 04/01/2011 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it difficult to believe that a person could live to be that large. Quoting: Dr. HouseThe upper limit is slightly over 9 feet tall. Bone densities and proportions would result in no one recognizing a femur (or any other bone) from a humanoid giant as compared to some other beast. Its a matter of proportion. While the height increases slowly, mass of the body would increase fast against height. Thus a person 9 foot tall would have a mass greater than a person at 6 feet tall even of the same proportions. Further, blood flow is such that human skin and blood vessels cannot contain the blood at the feet. Robert Wadlow, the tallest man ever recorded, stood at 8 feet 11.1 inches tall. He died due to breaking blood vessels in the feet and lower legs which became infected (blood poisoning). The greater volume of blood means greater mass, which means that the pressure in the lower extremities is far greater than the blood vessels can withstand. The Heart alone would have to grow to far greater proportion to handle the extra amounts of blood. No human chest in proportion at a height greater than nearly 10 feet could contain the heart that would be needed to move the blood around. Medically speaking, its impossible for a person to get much over 9 feet tall without serious systemic failures across every bodily system. Either the height estimate is off by about 2 feet, or this is some other creature (not human) thus not technically a 'giant'. It is highly possible that it is of one of the hominid lines which died out, thus an 'apeman' sort of creature that attained a large size. A Gorilla spine, or some arm bones, or the shoulder or the pelvis could readily be mistaken as 'human' and the height estimate one would get would be far greater than the height of a gorilla, simply due to the the fact that gorillas as massive above the waist, and 'small' below the waist in comparison. From where exactly did you copy & paste this crap from? |
Oh my god (OP) User ID: 1323042 United States 04/01/2011 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Reprts of these giants, usually described as fair skinned with red hair are found all over the world, often with elongated skulls - the remains are allways 'disapeared' by museums etc because they tell a story that the bloddlines can't afford to let you in on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034753[link to nexusilluminati.blogspot.com] The earliest Western explorers who wrote about the giants of North America included Magellan, Sir Francis Drake, Spanish explorer Desoto, and Commodore Byron the grandfather of the famous poet, Lord Byron. Not all encounters with giants were post-mortems. A well-documented sighting by Magellan occurred in 1520 near the harbor of San Julian, Mexico. There, Magellan and his crew came upon a red-haired giant that stood nearly ten feet tall and whom Magellan described as having a “voice like a bull.” Later, Magellan learned from normal-sized natives that the giant belonged to a neighboring tribe. Remarkably, Magellan’s logs show that he and his crew captured two of these living giants and brought them aboard his ship intending to bring them back to Europe. Unfortunately the giants grew ill and they both died during the return voyage. Magellan had their remains buried at sea. Fifty-eight years later giants still roamed San Julian. None other than Sir Francis Drake recorded encountering several red-haired men who stood over nine feet tall. In the years that followed many more explorers and seafarers also reported seeing giants roaming that area. Two lesser known explorers, Jacob le Maire and Wilhelm Schouten, discovered an intact skeleton of a pair of nine-foot humans. They each entered meticulous descriptions of the skeletons in their journals. Yeah, these were the giants that the Spanish only came as high as their waist. They couldn't even reach their heads with their arms extended these guys were so tall. Aymon, a member of the Archduke Ferdinand's bodyguard, reportedly stood eleven feet tall. For many years a carved wooden likeness of this giant was preserved in the Castle of Ambras in the Tyrol Alpines In his De Gigantibus, John. Cassanio relates that while in Bordeaux, Francis I of France (1494-1547) saw a giant of such height that he immediately enlisted him as one of his guards. It is said that the giant, who subsequently became an archer, stood so tall that a man of ordinary size could walk between his legs! A giant who was so tall a normal man could walk between his legs. Thats about the size we are talking here for the giant of Castelnau. |
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Oh my god (OP) User ID: 1323042 United States 04/01/2011 06:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there nephlims great big son of a guns the creators of the summerians. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314395Daymn right bro. Nefilums, Anakims, Anunaukies, Rephaims, Zamzummims. Titans Gigantes etc... or that poor boy down the steet corner who can't stop growing (we'll toss him in anyways). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1323464 Brazil 04/01/2011 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it difficult to believe that a person could live to be that large. Quoting: Dr. HouseThe upper limit is slightly over 9 feet tall. Bone densities and proportions would result in no one recognizing a femur (or any other bone) from a humanoid giant as compared to some other beast. Its a matter of proportion. While the height increases slowly, mass of the body would increase fast against height. Thus a person 9 foot tall would have a mass greater than a person at 6 feet tall even of the same proportions. Further, blood flow is such that human skin and blood vessels cannot contain the blood at the feet. Robert Wadlow, the tallest man ever recorded, stood at 8 feet 11.1 inches tall. He died due to breaking blood vessels in the feet and lower legs which became infected (blood poisoning). The greater volume of blood means greater mass, which means that the pressure in the lower extremities is far greater than the blood vessels can withstand. The Heart alone would have to grow to far greater proportion to handle the extra amounts of blood. No human chest in proportion at a height greater than nearly 10 feet could contain the heart that would be needed to move the blood around. Medically speaking, its impossible for a person to get much over 9 feet tall without serious systemic failures across every bodily system. Either the height estimate is off by about 2 feet, or this is some other creature (not human) thus not technically a 'giant'. It is highly possible that it is of one of the hominid lines which died out, thus an 'apeman' sort of creature that attained a large size. A Gorilla spine, or some arm bones, or the shoulder or the pelvis could readily be mistaken as 'human' and the height estimate one would get would be far greater than the height of a gorilla, simply due to the the fact that gorillas as massive above the waist, and 'small' below the waist in comparison. Yes, TODAY is impossible in our earth conditions. The same happens with dinosaurs. They wouldn't ever live on the ground with our CURRENT gravity, density, amount of 02, "days" spinning around the earth axis and "year" around the Sun. In a nutshell: your analysis is about our MODERN circumstances and you ignore what happened in the past. Even the density of the bones have changed. |