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Rocketrod
08/23/2005 04:36 AM
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IMAGINE FOR A MOMENT...

You are outside playing with your children and one of them disturbs one of your neighbours.A shouting match ensued even though you had tried several times to apologise and had your child apologise.Now a couple of days later a Chil Protective Services worker shows up with a report of īsuspectedīabuse by an anonymous tip.
They never tell you who made the report.So having nothing to hide,you then let them in to see that your children are fine.You donīt think that the bruise on your sonīs leg from falling off his bike last week will matter.You donīt think that because the kids have been out back playing in the dirt will matter or that maybe you havenīt started the laundry or washed the dishes yet will matter.The worker leaves and says you will hear from them if it is unfounded.
They donīt tell you that your adorable children fit the profile of kids that the perfect foster parents are looking for.So after a couple of days,the Child Protective Services worker comes back with the police and takes your children.
It happens everyday in Amerika.You have NO RIGHTS.NO WARRANT IS NEEDED

Read what the bastards do next,and why they do it and how the courts are stacked against the parents
[link to educate-yourself.org]

Paedophilia is rampant within the īupper echelonsī.I suspect much of this child traffik heads their way,according to how the child fits theīprofileī.

I am not a parent but I would imagine it would be absolutely devastating to lose your adored children,possibly forever,and the torment and frustration
at not being able to recover your children,due to the CPS system.Let alone the trauma the children must be undergoing.

Especially if you know THEYīRE getting kickbacks from EVERY child they abduct.

And thereīs nothing you can do about it parents in Amerika.
CPS - Creating Permenant Suffe
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Date: Tuesday, 23 August 2005, 2:11 a.m.

Hello Everyone.

This is yet another tragic situation where Child Protective Services is forcing chemotherapy upon Katie Wernecke, a 12 year old 7th grader in Texas.

[link to prayforkatie.blogspot.com]

People wake up!! Protect your children and donīt turn your back when you hear of the horrible abuses other families are suffering. We must all fight these injustices together.

Katie lives in Agua Dulce, Texas. Her Congressman is Reuben Hinojosa. The phone number to call him is: 202-224-3121
Ask him to please tell you why this family is unable to get recognition and consideration of the information researched by Mr. Wernecke. Mr. Wernecke is a researcher who has a PhD!

There should be fair consideration and discussion about the best course of treatment. A child should not be removed from their family.

If you donīt want to help this family because it is the right thing to do, then do it because your children could be next!

Act now to protect your Health Freedom Rights. The life you save may be your own.
CPS - Creating Permenant Suffe
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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It is sickening on how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. These numbers include CPS in Texas.
Perpetrators of Maltreatment

Physical Sexual Neglect Medical Fatalities
Abuse Abuse Neglect
CPS 160 112 410 14 6.4
Parents 59 13 241 12 1.5


Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the United States.


These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect (NCCAN) in Washington.

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the agencies that are supposed to protect, and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents to, no judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty for more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nation wide is guilty for more human rights violations and death of children then the homes they took them out of. When are the judges going to wake up to see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Here in uk

a goody two shoes outfit called social services decided that if you are
A: POOR

B: BELOW AVERAGE IQ (THEY DECIDE)


they take your kids into care.

[link to www.guardian.co.uk]


plenty of other articles
Its more sinister than you wan
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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I live in Massachusettes where its called DSS and I am convinced that the entire operation is another way the NWO is victimizing families. I personally know a couple of single parents who have had their children taken away for bogus reasons and not only this, the women were diagnosed with these various mental illnesses and forced to take medication as part of the conditions of reunificaton, medication which for the most part has turned them into nothing more than sedated and compliant zombies. Sad that even the very act of parenting has to be monitored and controlled. I know that there are children out there that are actually being abused and neglected that may need intervention of some sort or another, but the kind of things that I am seeing is so petty and ridiculous...social workers coming around just because a child came to school with a dirty shirt a couple of days in a row and stuf like that. Unbelievable.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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This is what happens when Marxists gain control of Universities! They turn out marxist social workers whose departments are rewarded for taking children from their parents on the flimsiest of reasons.

Strange how the kids who really need rescuing from their guardians are left to suffer and die!
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Yeah, those fuckers have authoritarian mental problems. I never thought it would happen to us but they tried. Our deaf child was receiving speech therapy as a toddler, as all deaf children do, and the head of the local social services office called me up one day to tell me sheīd be coming over to inspect my house. Iīm like huh. (btw with 4 kids my house always had toys all over but it was very clean and I also maintained large gardens in the yard and it was a very nice house in a new subdivision). I asked the bitch why and she hemmed and hawed a little and I finally said "youīre coming over to inspect my house because our child was born deaf" and she said "Yes".

I told her to be sure to look nice and be wearing her prettiest smile when she showed up. She said "How come"? I said sweetly "because Iīm going to call every newspaper and tv agency in the tri-county area and youīre going to be on the evening news".

The bitch never came over. Go figure.

lmao

It didnīt matter that we were excellent parents. It didnīt matter that our children were always healthy, happy, well fed and dressed appropriately and obviously dearly loved. It didnīt matter that my husband had a great career and was also on the local volunteer rescue squad. It didnīt matter that not a single fucking complaint had been filed against us by anybody. The stupid fucking cunt thought she do as she pleased and invade my home because our child was born with genetic deafness.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Well I have worked in a theraputic childcare classroom and have been appaled by the act of C.P.S.giving children back to some very unfit parents there are two sides to every story.
Rex
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Law suit. Force open the CPS records. Find out who made the call and sue him for label. Thatīs how we deal with it in Cauliflower.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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The fault lies in letting them in. No way. Go get a warrant if you want to come into my house without my invitation up front. If a cop comes to my door I do not invite him in. He has to have a warrant to get into my house.

No, I donīt have anything to hide but there is a lot I have to protect, my rights.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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My neighbor (she moved away a few months ago) came over in a huff, saying my son and her daughter (both 10) were playing "doctor." They both played together quite often and I even watched this little girl when her mother had to work late a few times. I apologized and said they shouldīnt play together and she went home. A few days later she came sheepishly over and said "how did the meeting with Child Protective Services go?" to which I replied "what meeting?" She said she had called Social Services because her daughter was "distraught" over what happened, even though both she and my son were both culpable. I told her they hadīnt called me yet and that I had nothing to hide. I was still nice to this woman even after she had surgery and couldīnt get around by herself.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Simple, if they try to take your livelyhood away you take away theyre life. Any parent who isnīt willing to defend there family with deadly force probibly doesnīt care anyway. Whould you let someone kindnap your child to go molest them? Which is what happens more often than not in these "foster homes". CPS is no different than a stranger on the street. Fight fire with fire. Never fails. Same should go for all enemies of freedom.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"Well I have worked in a theraputic childcare classroom and have been appaled by the act of C.P.S.giving children back to some very unfit parents there are two sides to every story."

No, itīs the same side. They leave the kids who need help in appalling homes and take away the kids that donīt need help. Mustnīt let decent families think theyīre actually doing the right thing! Itīs all part of the Marxist ideal to destroy the family. If a family is already destroying itself, theyīll be more or less left alone.

I know for a fact that at least fifteen, twenty years ago a college in Liverpool was forcing professors to give all their social work students pass marks, despite, as one professor said, many were in need of help from social services themselves. I knew one of those students and believe me, the thought that that slut was going to be put in charge of decisions affecting anybodyīs life made me feel sick to my stomach. She couldnīt even keep her own family together, he kids ran wild and were hooked up with on of the local drug dealing families, lucky for her and her habit.

I heard later she slept with one of her superiors in order to blackmail him, something sheīd done before and no doubt will do again.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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WHEN SHIT BREAKS DOWN, IīM SURE ALL OF THIS SHIT WILL BE SETTLED. MICHIGAN FOR SURE.
Interdimensional warrior
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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What they actually do is put the unattractive or unmanagable children back with the birth parents , and throw the good looking and healthy children to "foster homes", where they are ten times as likely to be sexually abused as they are in their own home.

Foster parents have three posible motivations for becoming such, and some have more than one of these.

Imaging a pervert getting paid to rape your child. It happens thousands of times a day in the police state.

What clued me it was a racket right off was how the sick children , or ones with menatl problems or that are not particularly attractive are always sent back to the parents nomatter what, and the "good specimens" remain in foster care.


Donīt believe me, think about it.

Do you think these CPS have a ligitamate right ot do this crap?
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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One way to stop this madness is not to register your children via SS number. Have a home birth and homeschool the kids. Set up a network of medical professionals who will take care of the kids without a ss number.

Just say no to putting your children on government roles.
Smilin´ Joe
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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BUMP !
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Rocketrod (OP)

Thanks for the post and for anyone skimming through the responses I am here to tell you that every word our OP wrote borderlines understatement. The subject matter itself gets very little mention on this forum which is surprising to say the least. It is obvious that a good number of the posters have children. “It’s more sinister than you want to know” is from my home state and Massachusetts seems to be taking a beating in this arena. It’s rampant all over but there are a few states that have risen above the xcall of duty and that would be Satan’s call by the why. If you knew as little as 1% of the true depth of this atrocity you would be hard pressed to keep the words, “Holy Shit”, from springing through your lips but there ain’t nothing Holy about it. You hit the nail right on the head there Rocketrod about the motivation behind the operation and that is easy to find, all you have to do is…………….follow the money.
It is beyond belief, IMHO, that for as many people that this has been done to that there is still an able body left to answer the phone that hasn’t been collected from there wanted poster and strung up like the no good pole cat they are. On this particular subject it is far to easy for me to get off on to rant and that is due to my knowledge of this mindless soul eating group that do everything in their power to make sure that certain profiled children across this country are placed anywhere but with another family member. I recently read a report that Health and Human Services turns in to who ever it is they answer to presently (not to be confused with whom they are going to answer to eventually) in the State of California and according to their numbers (we call them the way we see them and if we don’t see them we make them up, numbers) 85% of the children are placed with a family member. If any of the people in California that have been a victim of CPS’s they would throw up. I am not a person that you would call short on words and I have no words that can even come close to trying to get anyone’s attention that not only does this blatant disregard to every thing that America stands for even exists, it has escalated 100 fold since it’s premier. So I am going to send you to a place where you can get the general idea from just one persons individual account and you will see every element that has been previously mentioned in the above posts

[link to www.mckenziesmilitia.com]

Oh ya, and then if you want, just for fun, do a Google search on people having problems with Child Protective Services and just take a look at the top of the page where it says “1-10 of xxx,xxxx,xxxx” and be amazed. To anyone that doesn’t know about this…. you should, and to all that do…….. I’m sorry.
ranttomato
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Washington state c.p.s. should be dissolved and made to get real jobs.

I can witness to 3 separate incidences (different families) of state kidnapping via false allegations, then children returned to the parents permantly altered from the experience.
And thatīs just on my one city block over 10 years.

Iīm quite convinced they do far more harm than good overall.
Rev. Star Gazer
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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My turn to rant!rant

First - I personally know a gay episcopal priest that spent 20 years in San Franciscoīs CPS department. In his off time, he liked to cruise for young, runaway boys on Polk street. Even laughingly refered to himself and his coworkers as īThe Baby Snatchersī.:4:

Now to another, current horror story -

A friend of mine has been fighting for 2 years to get his sons back! It all started when his two boys were arrested on charges that have since been proven false. Since there was no seperate holding area from adults, parents must pick thier children up within 6 hours of arrest or they would be transfered into the custody of CPS. Well, circumstances were that the father had no contact or knowledge of his sons arrest until the next morning - so CPS stepped in. It is now 2 years and thousands of dollars in attorney and courts fees later and this poor man still has not been allowed to even visit or talk to his children. And get this - he was NEVER even accused or suspected of abuse against them - they were īpicked upī because the local law enforcement didnīt get ahold of him in time and they didnīt have a place for the boys to sleep!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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previous poster is correct...once the ss number is stamped on the forehead!!! Ahem...children are the property of the state!
Rocketrod
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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A BRAVE AND COMMITTED WOMAN EXPOSES THE PAEDOPHILE AND SATANIC NETWORK IN AUSTRALIA INVOLVING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS,LEADING POLITICIANS,TV EXECUTIVES,TOP TV PRESENTERS AND THE POLICE

This shocking report surfaced 2 years ago, suppressed by mainstream news of course.I sent both of these incriminating accounts investigated by a very brave doctor whistleblower in 2003 to-
1/The Victorian Premier,[doting father],members of cabinet and the state opposition,of which their leaderīs platform is the high moral ground.
2/Both major daily newspapers.
3/The female Victorian police commissioner,who at the insistence of the whistleblowerīhad looked intoī the allegations.And done nothing.

Despite the several dozen emails I sent,the one to my politicians were of īan angry and very concerned fatherī,demanding an inquiry....not a fucking whimper from any recipient,not even one email acknowlodging my communication....unusual as being somewhat of a diverse activist, newspapers always acknowledge emails,thankyou blah blah blah. Poli-tics[poly=many tics=blood sucking parasites]often respond back.... further confirmation of the truth of the allegations,from the highest levels,the walls of silence remain.

Check out this shocking saga.
www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2003/bravewoman.html
www.davidicke.com/icke/articles2003/bravewoman2.html
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Itīs the Gesatpo to be sure. They break every amendment there is. Like the right to face your accusers. Innocent until proven guilty.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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>>>>>>First - I personally know a gay episcopal priest that spent 20 years in San Franciscoīs CPS department. In his off time, he liked to cruise for young, runaway boys on Polk street. Even laughingly refered to himself and his coworkers as īThe Baby Snatchersī.4

Now to another, current horror story -

A friend of mine has been fighting for 2 years to get his sons back! It all started when his two boys were arrested on charges that have since been proven false. Since there was no seperate holding area from adults, parents must pick thier children up within 6 hours of arrest or they would be transfered into the custody of CPS. Well, circumstances were that the father had no contact or knowledge of his sons arrest until the next morning - so CPS stepped in. It is now 2 years and thousands of dollars in attorney and courts fees later and this poor man still has not been allowed to even visit or talk to his children. And get this - he was NEVER even accused or suspected of abuse against them - they were īpicked upī because the local law enforcement didnīt get ahold of him in time and they didnīt have a place for the boys to sleep!!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<



You should have your friend go on Montel Wiliams or some show like that. Montel is very concerned with justice. He has a hotline for show ideas. Get intot ouch with him.

Here: [link to www.montelshow.com]

Tell them your story. Iīm sure Montel would be interested in all your stories.
Rocketrod
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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A notorious predator repeat paedophile named īMr Baldyī,because he shaved the heads of young male victims[and dressed them in girls clothes]before sexually abusing them,served 8 years prison in the 1980s,but re-offended almost immediately after his release,earning another 14 year prison term.This rock spider[oz prison term for paedophile]
has just been released back into the community,against much protest by local residents,where he has been re-located.

The same Victorian Premier,Steve Bracks,[doting father] who placed a smokescreen around the 2003 paedophilia whistleblower evidence has this to say July 16 2005....

Premier Bracks said he "felt very comfortable" about the handling of the release of the Mr Baldy aka Brian Keith Jones who is housed within a 1 km radius of 5 schools upon his release this week.
Mr Bracks said he "believed the Kent st Ascot Vale property was an appropriate site to house Jones".

It is directly opposite a skate park and a site where children gather to walk to school.

Perhaps Mr Baldy,with his predatory track record and proven expertise in luring children,may be considered a compliant asset,hence his placement.
robin

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02/12/2008 08:43 AM
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the trick is to not EVER EVER EVER let them step one evil FOOT inside of UR house.
EVER!
when they cross the threshold, ALL of R rights have just been handed over.

im in florida and have to deal with them at the moment becasue the schools says my 10 year old gave out pornagfaphic material to other boys on the bus.
he was NEVER found with these materials, they were NOT pornographic either!
bras and panties.
at our conference the school o fficals decided that indeed it was NOT pornographic but rather INAPPROPRIATE.
however the referal sent home states he had possesion and distrubeted said materials.
i havent signed it and wont.
im gonna write a nice letter stating this fact and insist it be placed in his permanent file alongside their bogus referral.

the lady who showed up at my house from CPS, i told to leave and come back with a warrant.she threatened bringing sheriffs to do forensics.forensics is for criminal activity!
i told her she could bring as many cops as she liked but it wouldnt chnage the fact she wasnt gonna touch my child.

dont let them step foot inside UR house, and dont sign a damn paper.NOTHING!!!!!!!!!

one other time they came and said my older boy needed counseling.the lady gave me a number to call.she wrote in the biggest letters with blue ink, larger than her own name, kept pointing to it with her pen, like 7 or 8 times.
turns out this number WAS from the counseling center= a very large live-in place...but it was the MAINTENANCE MANS number.(she must know him personally)
he never did go and i never signed him up.
i felt he was targeted.
she threatened to send my file to legal services.i said go ahead! they later sent me paper that said the case was closed.

they ARE the gestapo.
they even claim a 29% molestation/sexal abuse rate AFTER children are taken into their care...and that is what they are CLAIMING to!!!

here in florida they give themselves ONE year to REUNIITE families...plus they are PAID for every kid they bring in.

they can bold face LIE to U and, in fact, are ENCOURAGED TO DO SO.
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02/12/2008 09:01 AM
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Hay, , they are not your kids. Get a grip, you are only watching them until they can get a job and pay their fair share in taxes. The CPS are there to protect the governments interest in their "resources".
robin nli
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02/12/2008 10:50 AM
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yes U are correct...according to the law, they are considered WARDS OF STATE until they reach 18.
us parents are considered CARETAKERS.
frightening, isnt it?
how many parents know this?

yep, learned all about that reading up on the legal term STRAWMAN.
we do NOT own our children, we are to TEND them FOR the govt.

now i know what to do if they EVER come to my house.
tell them to come back with a WARRANT.

if they refuse i can call the police to haul them away.
what do U bet the police will refuse to do this anyway?
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02/12/2008 11:07 AM
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yes U are correct...according to the law, they are considered WARDS OF STATE until they reach 18.
us parents are considered CARETAKERS.
frightening, isnt it?
how many parents know this?

yep, learned all about that reading up on the legal term STRAWMAN.
we do NOT own our children, we are to TEND them FOR the govt.

now i know what to do if they EVER come to my house.
tell them to come back with a WARRANT.

if they refuse i can call the police to haul them away.
what do U bet the police will refuse to do this anyway?
 Quoting: robin nli 269684



Yeah, the warrant thing pretty much died when they enacted the "Patriot" Act.

The police are no longer there to protect and serve. Well, unless you're one of the Elite Puppetmasters.





GLP