Doomamatrix and Wildhoney Rosary Thread...all welcome to join us in prayer

aww

see told you it was easy

Ill pray for you too

"Have you prayed for Charles Manson today?"
[link to www.sodahead.com]

Well, I guess someone has.

Wildhoney,

Oh my, judging, my pride. I thought we weren't friends
anymore. I was stupida.


p.s. Thanks for the Youtube. Have you listened to the Caccini Ave Maria? It's beautifuly sung by Andrea Bocelli.

How could you think that Mary??
Andrea Bocelli has such a lovely voice..thank you

Now the board won't let me post lyric snips...but swimming until you can't see land is about as 'religious' as I have ever felt.

[link to www.lyrics-celebrities.anekatips.com]

More than happy to join this thread; thanks for starting it. I think it's lovely to respond to detractors with prayers for them. Much more effective, imo, than arguing.

Are you guys also aware of the reported Marian apparition about a week ago in the Ivory Coast?

Mary Ellen

Speak of detractors. You were bitter for so long.

God's grace is coming down. You use to object to the yet to be approved apparitions of Mary giving anti-Catholics amunition like the Protestant Messianics who use to slam
the Church in all their posts. Flirting with with one who used the most vile language and mocked Our Lady.

You sucked up to them terrribly, not a good Catholic
witness at all. Giving your personal opinion on
Church teaching. It was negative sometimes and they loved it.

Now that you received an approval of your marriage, you can receive the Holy Eucharist, there's the grace you needed, everyone needs.

I'm sorry you still feel hurt and betrayed, Mary, but when asked about Catholic teachings I rely on the Catechism and church documents, not the opinions of other Catholics.

As for the rest, well, let's just say our methods of evangelization differ and leave it at that, okay?

Mary Ellen

Everything I stated is true. The, previous post, you continue with your "lovely" comments with the dig included. Always above everyone else. That still is your way.

You were a pal to the Messianics while putting down the unapproved appearances of Mary. And if all that you said were from the Catechism and true Church teaching they would
not of responded like they did to your PO of the Church
teaching.

The Messianics were affirmed by your method of evangilization. When it was negative about the
Church, they praised you. You were not kind to me
a fellow Catholic. I use to wonder why? Maybe,it was your professed femnism, sharing your IQ score, I am not very smart so that might be it. Your comments to me were awful, always covered in sugar which is worse. The people in that sect appreciated it. And then you would thank them.

You needed the Holy Eucharist. Recall, I prayed you would
receive your dispensation. I tried.

It's going to take the Great Warning for the Messianics.

Mary, I joined this thread to share my delight in praying the rosary with like-minded people. I'd rather not spend my time in a futile effort to change your opinion of me, which would sidetrack the intent of this thread. Let's be content to pray with and for each other.

Mary Ellen

So what does it mean of Jesus' lover to have him inside her?

Does that make her a double stuffed oreo?

Where is your apology?

What was your "intent" in the Messianic threads? My opinion of you came from your treatment of me.

And "like-minded people", I was usually the only one defending the faith in the Messianic threads, you weren't kind to me as fellow Catholics are to one another, instead, always disagreeing or writing some correction that wasn't needed. But sweet as you could be to follow with those saying the most despicable things about the faith.

It was sad. Your Messianic friend went too far for attention, calling me something one can't repeat anywhere! The thread died immediately.

And I did pray for you, I couldn't figure out why your unkindness. Later, after you shared, I realized it could be that you couldn't receive the Holy Eucharist. You needed the grace.

The grace of the Holy Eucharst must have changed you. "Like-minded people" you were not. You put down the yet to be approved messages from Heaven, you had no need of
them. Bringing up a yet to be approved apparition shows a positive change.

Shssss, that hurt your meanness and your nice words to those who mock the faith. Like you at one time and myself, they don't get it yet but they will with prayers and God's grace. Remember, many of the Messianics and anti-Catholics posting back then are fallen away Catholics.

Felicitaciones, Wildhoney. I'm in the very late crowd. Are we going to do a Novena?

bump

Hi sure Id love too when do we start?

Thank you

Thank you..



yes I saw the utube

The Blessed Mother's 15 promises are explained. It is so
important to share, anyone can pray the Rosary.

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Our Lady's 15 Promises for Praying the Rosary


Besides the Indulgences attached to the Rosary, Our Lady revealed to St. Dominic and Blessed Alan de la Roche additional benefits for those who devoutly pray the Rosary. Our Lady's promise is shown in darker blue text. Additional explanation on and doctrinal connections to each promise is shown following in the smaller normal text font and color. Note that the Rosary is the prayer (non-Liturgical) with the most published Magisterial / Papal documents expounding on its excellence. Vatican II's summary on Our Lady is contained in Lumen Gentium chapter VIII.

1. Whosoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces. Signal Graces are those special and unique Graces to help sanctify us in our state in life. See the remaining promises for an explanation for which these will consist. St. Louis de Montfort states emphatically that the best and fastest way to union with Our Lord is via Our Lady [True Devotion to Mary, chapter four].

2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary. Our Lady is our Advocate and the channel of all God's Grace to us. Our Lady is simply highlighting that She will watch especially over us who pray the Rosary. (see Lumen Gentium chapter VIII - Our Lady #62) [a great more detail is available on this topic in True Devotion to Mary, chapter four, by St. Louis de Montfort]

3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin and defeat heresies. This promise, along with the next, is simply the reminder on how fervent prayer will help us all grow in holiness by avoiding sin, especially a prayer with the excellence of the Rosary. An increase in holiness necessarily requires a reduction in sin, vice, and doctrinal errors (heresies). If only the Modernists could be convinced to pray the Rosary! (see Lumen Gentium chapter V - The Call to Holiness #42) St. Louis de Montfort states "Since Mary alone crushed all heresies, as we are told by the Church under the guidance of the Holy Spirit (Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary)..." [True Devotion to Mary #167]

4. It will cause good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire for Eternal Things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means. This promise, along with the previous, is the positive part, that being to live in virtue. Becoming holy is not only avoiding sin, but also growing in virtue. (see Lumen Gentium chapter V - The Call to Holiness #42)

5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary shall not perish.
Since Our Lady is our Mother and Advocate, She always assists those who call on Her implicitly by praying the Rosary. The Church reminds us of this in the Memorare prayer, "... never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help or sought your intercession, was left unaided ..."

6. Whosoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just he shall remain in the grace of God, and become worthy of Eternal Life. This promise highlights the magnitude of Graces that the Rosary brings to whomever prays it. One will draw down God's Mercy rather than His Justice and will have a final chance to repent (see promise #7). One will not be conquered by misfortune means that Our Lady will obtain for the person sufficient Graces to handle said misfortune (i.e. carry the Crosses allowed by God) without falling into despair. As Sacred Scripture tells us, "For my yoke is sweet and my burden light." (Matthew 11:30)

7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church. This promise highlights the benefits of obtaining the most possible Graces at the hour of death via the Sacraments of Confession, Eucharist, and Extreme Unction (Anointing of the Sick). Being properly disposed while receiving these Sacraments near death ensures one's salvation (although perhaps with a detour through Purgatory) since a final repentance is possible.

8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the Light of God and the plenitude of His Graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the Merits of the Saints in Paradise.
Our Lady highlights the great quantity of Graces obtain through praying the Rosary, which assist us during life and at the moment of death. The merits of the Saints are the gift of God's rewards to those persons who responded to His Grace that they obtained during life, and so Our Lady indicates that She will provide a share of that to us at death. With this promise and #7 above, Our Lady is providing the means for the person to have a very holy death.

9. I shall deliver from purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
Should one require Purgatorial cleansing after death, Our Lady will make a special effort to obtain our release from Purgatory through Her intercession as Advocate.

10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of Glory in Heaven.
This promise is a logical consequence of promises #3 and #4 since anyone who truly lives a holier life on earth will obtain a higher place in Heaven. The closer one is to God while living on earth, the close that person is to Him also in Heaven. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states "Spiritual progress tends toward ever more union with Christ." (Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraph 2014)

11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by recitation of the Rosary. This promise emphasizes Our Lady's role as our Advocate and Mediatrix of all Graces. Of course, all requests are subject to God's Most Perfect Will. God will always grant our request if it is beneficial for our soul, and Our Lady will only intercede for us when our request is good for our salvation. (see Lumen Gentium chapter VIII - Our Lady #62)

12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
If one promotes the praying of the Rosary, Our Lady emphasizes Her Maternal care for us by obtaining many Graces (i.e. spiritual necessities) and also material necessities (neither excess nor luxury), all subject to the Will of God of course.

13. I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire Celestial Court during their life and at the hour of death. Since Our Lady is our Advocate, She brings us additional assistance during our life and at our death from all the saints in Heaven (the Communion of Saints). See paragraphs 954 through 959 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

14. All who recite the Rosary are my Sons, and brothers of my Only Son Jesus Christ.
Since the Rosary is a most excellent prayer focused on Jesus and His Life and activities in salvation history, it brings us closer to Our Lord and Our Lady. Doctrinally, Our Lady is our Mother and Jesus is our Eldest Brother, besides being our God. (see Lumen Gentium chapter VIII - Our Lady #62)

15. Devotion to my Rosary is a great sign of predestination. Predestination in this context means that, by the sign which is present to a person from the action of devoutly praying the Rosary, God has pre-ordained your salvation. Absolute certainty of salvation can only be truly known if God reveals it to a person because, although we are given sufficient Grace during life, our salvation depends upon our response to said Grace. (See Summa Theologica, Question 23 for a detailed theological explanation). Said another way, if God has guaranteed a person's salvation but has not revealed it to Him, God would want that person to pray the Rosary because of all the benefits and Graces obtained. Therefore the person gets a hint by devotion to the Rosary. This is not to say that praying the Rosary guarantees salvation - by no means. In looking at promises #3 and #4 above, praying the Rosary helps one to live a holy life, which is itself a great sign that a soul is on the road to salvation. (See also paragraphs 381, 488, 600, 2782 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.) In fact, St. Louis de Montfort says even more strongly that "an infallible and unmistakable sign by which we can distinguish a heretic, a man of false doctrine, an enemy of God, from one of God's true friends is that the hardened sinner and heretic show nothing but contempt and indifference to Our Lady..." [True Devotion to Mary, #30]


Reminder: these promises mean that, by faithfully and devoutly praying the Rosary, Our Lady will obtain for us the necessary Graces to obtain said promises. It is still up to each individual soul to respond to those Graces in order to obtain salvation.

and it gives inner peace

I had an insight last night while praying..and meditating..

I think there are two paths..both reflected in the book of revelations oddly enough..I know..suprised me too..I could be wrong

both lead to Paradise on earth..but

--one is a path of destruction of the world of man through natural events..opening of the seals etc..and paradise is born from the ashes and remains of a dead and destroyed world

--and one is the path of Divine Love..where the two become one and through this Love the earth is saved and transformation and renewal happen peacefully and the paradise is ushered in

both are predicted in revelations imo..but the choice isnt..its in the balance wether Love is Victorious and there is no destruction but instead a peaceful transition..

but if Love fails..then imo destruction will happen and the paradise will come through this means

..a total new view and interpretation of revelation that I got last night while fasting and praying and meditating..floored me really



very surprised

thats why imo revelation is difficult to understand because its telling us about the TWO paths...the choice is whats in the balance

wether LOVE is Victorious or not

To be reminded again of the persecution by a fellow
Catholic, Mary Ellen, along with the anti-Catholics was/is
very difficult.

To speak of "detractors" when she is one herself. It's
too much to read. Persecution of a fellow Catholic no less.

I am trying to forgive her, God help me...it's so hard to
when the woman posts about her piety. Mary Ellen's first post in this thread.

We should all try to get on..it isnt easy..we all have our ups and downs..we fail..say things we feel sorry we said after..get annoyed..hurt..jealous..angry..offended..feel betrayed..the list goes on

sooner or later we have to let go and move on otherwise the weight keeps us from spreading our wings and flying

I try to avoid conflict...what bothers me is when someone hurts another and me too I guess to a lesser degree..

injustice in the treatment of others..that really bothers me..then I get annoyed..I just cant help it

to be callous and uncaring of the pain inflicted on others..thats where I draw the line..It bothers me so much

I dont mind if I get hurt but if someone hurts me deliberately with intent..that bothers me very much..I feel offended as a human being, as a child of God

maybe its the ego

I dont like people that are false and manipulate others while pretending to be otherwise..the problem is I see through it and it really bothers me and sometimes sooner or later I verbally take the persons mask off

these are the points that bother me

otherwise Im pretty easy going

not worth the agro

Unforgiveness hurts the person not forgiving, I know.

Please dear God, our Blessed Mother, help me. You think
you have and I realize forgiving is not a feeling but an
act. To forgive is the only way to real .


Mary

Y'all seem like decent Christians. I'm not a believer myself, but I can't support anyone who claims to be a Christian and stands in judgement of others, or professes to know and preach that his path is the only path to God. You seem to speak with love in your hearts, and that to me at least, is the closest to "Godliness" that I can hope for. May your God bless you and keep you safe.