*BREAKING: GREECE DEFAULT WATCH * | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1276620 Canada 05/19/2011 05:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you explain this stuff in layman’s terms please ? Quoting: subzero86Why is this a strange request ? Stock market and economics are not my strong suit ! It's not a strange request. My interpretation is that a Greek default would send financial shockwaves through out Europe, which would cause a serious economic contraction (One which would happen with or without Greece anyways, imo). Well, that's my 2 cents anyways! Peace. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 923740 Netherlands 05/19/2011 05:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you explain this stuff in layman’s terms please ? Quoting: subzero86Why is this a strange request ? Stock market and economics are not my strong suit ! It's not a strange request. My interpretation is that a Greek default would send financial shockwaves through out Europe, which would cause a serious economic contraction (One which would happen with or without Greece anyways, imo). Well, that's my 2 cents anyways! Peace. That's why it will not happen.....soaring 10yr yld doesn't mean a thing...they will get another 100 billion....500 billion even, as long as we can keep the illusion alive a little longer.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1389869 Italy 05/19/2011 05:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | technically Greece economy cannot create such doom event...since it's just a very low percentage of european economy Greece has been (as other countries and cities) offered (read someone has been payed to accept) the Goldman loan. Greece wont default until the country logistic cooperation to the war in ME will be assured or ...until it wont be necessary any longer During the previous Israel war, Greece has been placed under a dictatorship engineered by Kissinger: The colonels Dictatorship. To assure whole Greek territory logistic usage. Israel cannot fight without using outer logistic support since the country is completely surrounded. What happened to Greece now it's a modern version of what happened before. Italian cooperations has been set in the same fashion. BUT...in the moment Greece will be let to default, that will be a signal to all the banks to close their branches and not service people anymore. They will be able to run away with your money (or at least what of your money is still in there) and then collect more money from government buying more debt from IMF and Central Banks The very same story happened in the 1931: There are signs that an Austrian bank will take advantage of any default by Greece to shut up shop, cause panic and collapse the European banking system in a repeat of the crash in 1931 of Austria’s Credit Anstalt bank. In May 2010, it was reported that a secret plan exists in the Interior Ministry — run by now Finance Minister Maria Fekter — for banks in Austria to close at short notice in the event of a default by Greece. An Austrian bank could, therefore, be the institution that could collapse and send shockwaves across the system just as in 1931, as Alex Brummer in the Daily Mail fears. “The pressures on the banking system have been anticipated but the great fear is that, as was the case during the Lehman disaster, there is some institution out there, which no one has thought about, which is heavily exposed and could fail, sending shock waves across the system,” he writes. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] for the whole article : [link to birdflu666.wordpress.com] |
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Demian User ID: 895136 Greece 05/19/2011 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Laymans terms ..A defaulty by Greece would make Lehman Brothers default look like childs play... Quoting: fedspeakAnd that's why we won't default (at least not officially - because practically we have defaulted and operate as if we're in a state of bunkruptcy). The Central European Bank, major German banks and French banks are exposed to Greek bonds. There's a huge tug-o-war going on; some claim that Greek default followed by Euro collapse is good for the US dollar (and that's why the IMF's role is subtle), others say that it will lead to a global crisis. For certain the EU doesn't want it to happen, and that's why they are helping while whipping us hard (imagine it's something like saving your wife's lover from drowning while cursing at him because he owes you 20k). Last Edited by Demian on 05/19/2011 06:09 AM |
fedspeak (OP) User ID: 1311929 United States 05/19/2011 06:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yaaaaaay, my country is usefull again.... and be it only to collapse this shithouse of cards called economy and to break the illusion, lets flush the debt- system down the drain already !!!!!!!!! Quoting: DynamitriosWhat does the populace say about the problem?? Just curious..thanks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 923740 Netherlands 05/19/2011 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 'Illusion'...how profound....I like it...thanks.. Quoting: fedspeakI agree it is really getting tricky now....but I don't think the big implosion is upon us now....it will take some more time to position everything so that when the "haircut" is announced , it will be the taxpayer once again who picks up the tab and not the banksters....they(tptb) will ofcourse communicate to us that this was the only solution and that economic mayhem has been avoided by their skillfull handling of the crisis.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 923740 Netherlands 05/19/2011 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Laymans terms ..A defaulty by Greece would make Lehman Brothers default look like childs play... Quoting: fedspeakAnd that's why we won't default (at least not officially - because practically we have defaulted and operate as if we're in a state of bunkruptcy). The Central European Bank, major German banks and French banks are exposed to Greek bonds. There's a huge tug-o-war going on; some claim that Greek default followed by Euro collapse is good for the US dollar (and that's why the IMF's role is subtle), others say that it will lead to a global crisis. For certain the EU doesn't want it to happen, and that's why they are helping while whipping us hard (imagine it's something like saving your wife's lover from drowning while cursing at him because he owes you 20k). Hey mr. Greek-guy....how are you doing?....can you tell me what the mood is in your country at the moment?....and do you think your people will accept the ausertity-mesures?....or will there be a revolution?....tnx....and good luck.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 923740 Netherlands 05/19/2011 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In Laymans terms ..A defaulty by Greece would make Lehman Brothers default look like childs play... Quoting: fedspeakAnd that's why we won't default (at least not officially - because practically we have defaulted and operate as if we're in a state of bunkruptcy). The Central European Bank, major German banks and French banks are exposed to Greek bonds. There's a huge tug-o-war going on; some claim that Greek default followed by Euro collapse is good for the US dollar (and that's why the IMF's role is subtle), others say that it will lead to a global crisis. For certain the EU doesn't want it to happen, and that's why they are helping while whipping us hard (imagine it's something like saving your wife's lover from drowning while cursing at him because he owes you 20k). Hey mr. Greek-guy....how are you doing?....can you tell me what the mood is in your country at the moment?....and do you think your people will accept the ausertity-mesures?....or will there be a revolution?....tnx....and good luck.... Hmmmm....ausertity???....oh well , you get my point.... |
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Demian User ID: 895136 Greece 05/19/2011 06:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does the populace say about the problem?? Just curious..thanks Quoting: fedspeakThe populace is divided; most are angry at politicians (corrupt or not) because we have reached the point we're at; others just shut up and hide themselves because thousands of them (and their relatives) have been employed in the public sector just because they had connections to an MP - and that led to hypertrophic public sector and a significant part of the overspending. Also most realise that their way of living (luxury on borrowed money) can't go on - but it's hard for them to let go. A significant part of society is also angry at the EU for being harsh as they are, but don't realise that the structuring of our system as well as our mentality bears a large part of the responsibility of the situation... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 519048 Netherlands 05/19/2011 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greece is effectively in receivership. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519048They have been owned. Hoe denk jij dat dit afloopt? Niet goed. Did you read the Dutch headlines today (forget which newspaper, but one of the majors) - basically, enough is enough. Not looking good. Any time the IMF steps in, it means trouble. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1384167 United Kingdom 05/19/2011 06:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yaaaaaay, my country is usefull again.... and be it only to collapse this shithouse of cards called economy and to break the illusion, lets flush the debt- system down the drain already !!!!!!!!! Quoting: DynamitriosYES YES YES......SPREAD THE WORD TO ALL GREEKS!!!!!!!! DUMP THE EURO! DUMP THE EURO! DUMP THE EURO! At the moment you are being BITCH SLAPPED BY THE FRENCH & GERMANS. IF you stay you will be fucked in their DEBT FOREVER!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 923740 Netherlands 05/19/2011 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What does the populace say about the problem?? Just curious..thanks Quoting: fedspeakThe populace is divided; most are angry at politicians (corrupt or not) because we have reached the point we're at; others just shut up and hide themselves because thousands of them (and their relatives) have been employed in the public sector just because they had connections to an MP - and that led to hypertrophic public sector and a significant part of the overspending. Also most realise that their way of living (luxury on borrowed money) can't go on - but it's hard for them to let go. A significant part of society is also angry at the EU for being harsh as they are, but don't realise that the structuring of our system as well as our mentality bears a large part of the responsibility of the situation... Incredible the EU let you guys get away with it so long....probably they didn't care untill tshtf.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1343978 United States 05/19/2011 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bob Chapman has commented extensively on the Greek crisis in the international forecaster. If Greece doesnt default and return to their old currency they will live as slaves for the rest of their lives. Bob said that the goal of the IMF is to get Greece to collateralize their national assets which include their airline, airports, ports, utilities etc. |
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Demian User ID: 895136 Greece 05/19/2011 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the friend from the Netherlands: No, I don't see a revolution very near; a lot of people are well off (using legal or not so legal means) so they just sit and wait, expecting their head will stay above the water when TSHTF. Of course society (esp. the lower classes) is boiling and there's a lot of talk about "a potential spark igniting the fire" but I don't see it happening. Not yet at least. You don't see massive demonstrations yet; and you don't see a groundbraking change at opinion polls yet, just a drastic decrease in the popularity of the two major political parties. |