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Modern Psychology then and now. The Lobotomy. Remember when this was mainstream? | |
| 2342 Offer Upgrade  User ID: 1109456  United States05/20/2011 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| 2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States05/20/2011 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What amazes me is how eager people are to have their brains fried, if they are given advice from an authority figure. If someone is willing to get their frontal lobes snipped, what else will they hastily do? Quoting: 2342This fantastic procedure began in the 1930's and was mainstream for more than two decades. This procedure consists of cutting the connections to and from the prefrontal cortex, the anterior part of the frontal lobes of the brain. Prescribed for psychiatric conditions, despite the frequent and serious side effects. By 1951 almost 20,000 lobotomies had been performed in the United States. Thats right folks if your Grandma spoke up and Grandpa didn't like her way of thinking, she might have been the perfect candidate for a Lobotomy. Can you imagine going to the doctor for what you thought would be a mild procedure and when you left you were a walking zombie? The procedure declined when antipsychotics were invented and hit the market in the mid 1950's. Now, two modern varieties of psychosurgery are now done, cingulotomy and capsuolotomy. They both involve destroying bits of the limbic system, the part of the brain that is handles emotions. It's also involved with memory, sense of smell, and the endocrine (glandular) system. The main condition or diagnosis for these procedures is OCD or Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Other diagnoses for which psychosurgeries are being done, include depression, anxiety, and obesity. Having a tough time losing weight? Do you get obsessive at times? Maybe your feeling a bit depressed? Just tell the Doctor to fry some of your brian! The FDA has approved the procedure for obsessive compulsive disorder, and as we know, once the door is opened to a medical procedure, if there's a profit to be made, then it will be pushed. Medical ethicist at Emory University, Paul Root Wolpe, stated: "We have this idea—it’s almost a fetish—that progress is its own justification, that if something is promising, then how can we not rush to relieve suffering?" It appears that Psychiatry hasn't changed much over the past 70 years! It's just easier now to become a walking zombie. Because if you don't get your brain fried at the Doctors office, they can just prescribe your something to take at home that will alter your brain chemicals. Blaaaaa, blaaa, blaaa! [link to www.google.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Can you imagine what Grandma would look like after a lobotomy? www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
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| Storm* User ID: 1199093 United States05/20/2011 08:31 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know people on drugs for mental or emotional problems. They see a Doctor due to depression or whatever, and they get a drug prescribed. Once they are on the drug they do change. It doesn't seem for the better in what I have seen. It changes who they were. It changes the person I liked to begin with. They don't seem to notice that they have changed either. Or they do, but they like the new them. Or maybe they just like one of the side effects of the drug. |
| 2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States05/20/2011 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Francis Farmer Quoting: GaGal 1013803She certainly didn't fit the main stream back then. So they fried her brain? Her story is very sad. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by 2342 on 05/20/2011 08:38 AM www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
| 2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States05/20/2011 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No thanks. I would rather just be me. Even if I am not a cookie cutter image of what the mainstream would want. I am not a threat to myself or others, so stay out of my brain. Quoting: Storm*I know people on drugs for mental or emotional problems. They see a Doctor due to depression or whatever, and they get a drug prescribed. Once they are on the drug they do change. It doesn't seem for the better in what I have seen. It changes who they were. It changes the person I liked to begin with. They don't seem to notice that they have changed either. Or they do, but they like the new them. Or maybe they just like one of the side effects of the drug. Good to hear. It is unfortunate to see people zombified. i've been told it works for some people but i can't help think there must be a better way.  www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
| Anonymous Boo-Boo Kitty User ID: 1391751 United States05/20/2011 08:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What amazes me is how eager people are to have their brains fried, if they are given advice from an authority figure. If someone is willing to get their frontal lobes snipped, what else will they hastily do? Quoting: 2342This fantastic procedure began in the 1930's and was mainstream for more than two decades. This procedure consists of cutting the connections to and from the prefrontal cortex, the anterior part of the frontal lobes of the brain. Prescribed for psychiatric conditions, despite the frequent and serious side effects. By 1951 almost 20,000 lobotomies had been performed in the United States. Thats right folks if your Grandma spoke up and Grandpa didn't like her way of thinking, she might have been the perfect candidate for a Lobotomy. Can you imagine going to the doctor for what you thought would be a mild procedure and when you left you were a walking zombie? The procedure declined when antipsychotics were invented and hit the market in the mid 1950's. Now, two modern varieties of psychosurgery are now done, cingulotomy and capsuolotomy. They both involve destroying bits of the limbic system, the part of the brain that is handles emotions. It's also involved with memory, sense of smell, and the endocrine (glandular) system. The main condition or diagnosis for these procedures is OCD or Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Other diagnoses for which psychosurgeries are being done, include depression, anxiety, and obesity. Having a tough time losing weight? Do you get obsessive at times? Maybe your feeling a bit depressed? Just tell the Doctor to fry some of your brian! The FDA has approved the procedure for obsessive compulsive disorder, and as we know, once the door is opened to a medical procedure, if there's a profit to be made, then it will be pushed. Medical ethicist at Emory University, Paul Root Wolpe, stated: "We have this idea—it’s almost a fetish—that progress is its own justification, that if something is promising, then how can we not rush to relieve suffering?" It appears that Psychiatry hasn't changed much over the past 70 years! It's just easier now to become a walking zombie. Because if you don't get your brain fried at the Doctors office, they can just prescribe your something to take at home that will alter your brain chemicals. Blaaaaa, blaaa, blaaa! [link to www.google.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Can you imagine what Grandma would look like after a lobotomy? I almost dread to ask you what your point is... I am sure there is one. Twice for emphasis? You know, the only thing that justifies itself is error, because the truth just won't prop it up... Go, granny, go... |
| 2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States05/20/2011 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What amazes me is how eager people are to have their brains fried, if they are given advice from an authority figure. If someone is willing to get their frontal lobes snipped, what else will they hastily do? Quoting: 2342This fantastic procedure began in the 1930's and was mainstream for more than two decades. This procedure consists of cutting the connections to and from the prefrontal cortex, the anterior part of the frontal lobes of the brain. Prescribed for psychiatric conditions, despite the frequent and serious side effects. By 1951 almost 20,000 lobotomies had been performed in the United States. Thats right folks if your Grandma spoke up and Grandpa didn't like her way of thinking, she might have been the perfect candidate for a Lobotomy. Can you imagine going to the doctor for what you thought would be a mild procedure and when you left you were a walking zombie? The procedure declined when antipsychotics were invented and hit the market in the mid 1950's. Now, two modern varieties of psychosurgery are now done, cingulotomy and capsuolotomy. They both involve destroying bits of the limbic system, the part of the brain that is handles emotions. It's also involved with memory, sense of smell, and the endocrine (glandular) system. The main condition or diagnosis for these procedures is OCD or Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Other diagnoses for which psychosurgeries are being done, include depression, anxiety, and obesity. Having a tough time losing weight? Do you get obsessive at times? Maybe your feeling a bit depressed? Just tell the Doctor to fry some of your brian! The FDA has approved the procedure for obsessive compulsive disorder, and as we know, once the door is opened to a medical procedure, if there's a profit to be made, then it will be pushed. Medical ethicist at Emory University, Paul Root Wolpe, stated: "We have this idea—it’s almost a fetish—that progress is its own justification, that if something is promising, then how can we not rush to relieve suffering?" It appears that Psychiatry hasn't changed much over the past 70 years! It's just easier now to become a walking zombie. Because if you don't get your brain fried at the Doctors office, they can just prescribe your something to take at home that will alter your brain chemicals. Blaaaaa, blaaa, blaaa! [link to www.google.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] Can you imagine what Grandma would look like after a lobotomy? I almost dread to ask you what your point is... I am sure there is one. Twice for emphasis? You know, the only thing that justifies itself is error, because the truth just won't prop it up... Go, granny, go... My point is, imagine how bad Grandpa felt after he realized she would never snap out of her trance. Ah, just a simple procedure, she'll be fine. Grandpa- But Doc why does she mumble and look dazed all the time? Doc- Because she's all better now. Grandpa- Oh ok....  www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
| 2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States05/21/2011 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What amazes me is how eager people are to have their brains fried, if they are given advice from an authority figure. If someone is willing to get their frontal lobes snipped, what else will they hastily do? Quoting: 2342This fantastic procedure began in the 1930's and was mainstream for more than two decades. This procedure consists of cutting the connections to and from the prefrontal cortex, the anterior part of the frontal lobes of the brain. Prescribed for psychiatric conditions, despite the frequent and serious side effects. By 1951 almost 20,000 lobotomies had been performed in the United States. Thats right folks if your Grandma spoke up and Grandpa didn't like her way of thinking, she might have been the perfect candidate for a Lobotomy. Can you imagine going to the doctor for what you thought would be a mild procedure and when you left you were a walking zombie? The procedure declined when antipsychotics were invented and hit the market in the mid 1950's. Now, two modern varieties of psychosurgery are now done, cingulotomy and capsuolotomy. They both involve destroying bits of the limbic system, the part of the brain that is handles emotions. It's also involved with memory, sense of smell, and the endocrine (glandular) system. The main condition or diagnosis for these procedures is OCD or Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Other diagnoses for which psychosurgeries are being done, include depression, anxiety, and obesity. Having a tough time losing weight? Do you get obsessive at times? Maybe your feeling a bit depressed? Just tell the Doctor to fry some of your brian! The FDA has approved the procedure for obsessive compulsive disorder, and as we know, once the door is opened to a medical procedure, if there's a profit to be made, then it will be pushed. Medical ethicist at Emory University, Paul Root Wolpe, stated: "We have this idea—it’s almost a fetish—that progress is its own justification, that if something is promising, then how can we not rush to relieve suffering?" It appears that Psychiatry hasn't changed much over the past 70 years! It's just easier now to become a walking zombie. Because if you don't get your brain fried at the Doctors office, they can just prescribe your something to take at home that will alter your brain chemicals. Blaaaaa, blaaa, blaaa! [link to www.google.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] This thread got buried fast. www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
| 2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States05/24/2011 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. About Lobotomy There are nerves that connect the frontal lobes to the rest of the brain. The idea behind psychosurgery, later proven to be invalid, was that these nerves were somehow malformed or damaged, and if they were severed they might regenerate into new, healthy connections. Contrary to popular conception, the operation was not used only on psychiatric patients. Many people were lobotomized for “intractable pain”, such as chronic, severe backaches or agonizing headaches. The three common versions of psychosurgery were prefrontal leucotomy, prefrontal lobotomy, and transorbital lobotomy. A leucotomy basically involved drilling holes in the skull in order to access the brain. Once visible, the surgeon would sever the nerves using a pencil-sized tool called a leucotome. It had a slide mechanism on the side that would deploy a wire loop or loops from the tip. The idea was to be able to slide the “pencil” into the pre-drilled holes in the top of skull, into the brain, then use the slide to make the loop(s) come out. The surgeon could sever the nerves by removing “cores” of brain tissue, slide the loop back in, and the operation was complete. [link to www.psychosurgery.org] www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1314529 United States05/25/2011 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We still practice labotomy via drugs. Although I believe for the many the anti psychotic drugs help they are pushed on peple that really don't need them. We have chemical lobotomy now. Less gruesome than the old way. |
| 2342 (OP) User ID: 1109456 United States05/25/2011 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We still practice labotomy via drugs. Although I believe for the many the anti psychotic drugs help they are pushed on peple that really don't need them. We have chemical lobotomy now. Less gruesome than the old way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1314529Yes, in 1954, when the first mainstream antipsychotics came out, the lobotomies became more uncommon. New techniques are being used now in order to lobotomize someone. Electronic Manipulation can be very effective and clandestine, with no surgery required. Or Pills. www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 52926207 Germany01/15/2014 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What amazes me is how eager people are to have their brains fried, if they are given advice from an authority figure. If someone is willing to get their frontal lobes snipped, what else will they hastily do? Quoting: 2342 This fantastic procedure began in the 1930's and was mainstream for more than two decades. This procedure consists of cutting the connections to and from the prefrontal cortex, the anterior part of the frontal lobes of the brain. Prescribed for psychiatric conditions, despite the frequent and serious side effects. By 1951 almost 20,000 lobotomies had been performed in the United States. Thats right folks if your Grandma spoke up and Grandpa didn't like her way of thinking, she might have been the perfect candidate for a Lobotomy. Can you imagine going to the doctor for what you thought would be a mild procedure and when you left you were a walking zombie? The procedure declined when antipsychotics were invented and hit the market in the mid 1950's. Now, two modern varieties of psychosurgery are now done, cingulotomy and capsuolotomy. They both involve destroying bits of the limbic system, the part of the brain that is handles emotions. It's also involved with memory, sense of smell, and the endocrine (glandular) system. The main condition or diagnosis for these procedures is OCD or Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. Other diagnoses for which psychosurgeries are being done, include depression, anxiety, and obesity. Having a tough time losing weight? Do you get obsessive at times? Maybe your feeling a bit depressed? Just tell the Doctor to fry some of your brian! The FDA has approved the procedure for obsessive compulsive disorder, and as we know, once the door is opened to a medical procedure, if there's a profit to be made, then it will be pushed. Medical ethicist at Emory University, Paul Root Wolpe, stated: "We have this idea—it’s almost a fetish—that progress is its own justification, that if something is promising, then how can we not rush to relieve suffering?" It appears that Psychiatry hasn't changed much over the past 70 years! It's just easier now to become a walking zombie. Because if you don't get your brain fried at the Doctors office, they can just prescribe your something to take at home that will alter your brain chemicals. Blaaaaa, blaaa, blaaa! [link to www.google.com] [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
