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THE COMMON MAN CAN NOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT ALL THESE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS.

 
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THE COMMON MAN CAN NOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT ALL THESE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS.
The number of social welfare programs in the developed countries of the world are soaring. In the United States we have a Food Stamp program that is growing out of control. Millions and millions of people are jumping into the program to feed their families.

Now the government wants to raise and raise and raise taxes to fund these programs and the people who will have to pay those taxes are feeling the pinch. Demonstrations are starting against this nonsense not only in the United States, but in other countries with similar programs.

What are we getting ourselves into???
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What about corporate welfare, Joe? This cost far more than programs for the poor, which I'm not a big fan of either.
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The number of social welfare programs in the developed countries of the world are soaring. In the United States we have a Food Stamp program that is growing out of control. Millions and millions of people are jumping into the program to feed their families.

Now the government wants to raise and raise and raise taxes to fund these programs and the people who will have to pay those taxes are feeling the pinch. Demonstrations are starting against this nonsense not only in the United States, but in other countries with similar programs.

What are we getting ourselves into???
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how about you stop moaning and making threads about the welfare system that takes a tiny ammount of money from the taxpayers compared to the big banks and bailouts that steal trillions of dollars in tax payers money

your targeting the wrong people wake the fuk up.
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Joe, how about letting us in on what social welfare programs that you now participate in or get benefit from? SS, Medicare, fire, police, military, paved roads,.......?
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We can't afford not to have them, as that would cause a huge increase in violent crime and beggars living on the street. It's a worthwhile investment. If you don't like paying for it, it's easy enough to opt out of the tax system through alternative methods of earning income. I know lots of people doing that already.
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Also what about all these wars?

They get discount coupons or something?
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Joe, how about letting us in on what social welfare programs that you now participate in or get benefit from? SS, Medicare, fire, police, military, paved roads,.......?
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Well then the common man needs to SAVE.
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Joe, how about letting us in on what social welfare programs that you now participate in or get benefit from? SS, Medicare, fire, police, military, paved roads,.......?
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Well then the common man needs to SAVE.
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Or choose to become uncommon.
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Joe, how about letting us in on what social welfare programs that you now participate in or get benefit from? SS, Medicare, fire, police, military, paved roads,.......?
 Quoting: Xeitgeist 865957

Sure, I am on Social Security at age 63. I am not on any other program.

I have medical and dental care paid for through my former employer. It costs me $250 a month, but is not welfare.

As far as Social Security Goes, I have paid into the program 178,651 Dollars in my lifetime. I am receiving back $1,400 a month. At that rate, I am going to have to live for a hell of a long time to get my money back without interest.
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Oh, somebody said I was moaning about present circumstance. NO, I am not moaning. I am just stating the obvious.
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Yeah, I say bullshit. Im tired of having to support the world when I can barely support myself.

ESPECIALLY, right now, with the economy in the state that its in.

Im hanging on by a thread at my current job, which is deader than a doornail, hoping every day I dont get let go.
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THE COMMON MAN CAN NOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT ALL THESE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS.
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Then the "common man" needs to stop asking for and using them.
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What about corporate welfare, Joe? This cost far more than programs for the poor, which I'm not a big fan of either.
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Government should support business. By so doing government ensures employment of the people. The reason why we are losing jobs is because Government is not protecting business as much as it should. We used to have strong tariffs that prevented cheap labor countries from flooding our markets with cheap products and thus put Americans making those same products out of work.

The simple fact of the matter is that Government is not doing as much as it used to and we are suffering.
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Joe I'm with you. I support the new depopulation strategy. Let's kill off the poor dumb and lazy so all that's left is us cool rich people.

You should kill yourself since you are no longer contributing to society and are, in fact, a leech.
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Yeah, I say bullshit. Im tired of having to support the world when I can barely support myself.

ESPECIALLY, right now, with the economy in the state that its in.

Im hanging on by a thread at my current job, which is deader than a doornail, hoping every day I dont get let go.
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And when you are let go, please just die. It would be far nobler than leeching off the teet of the welfare state.

Thanks!
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You have bought your self a permanent under class of demoncrat voters.

If you can get them off the sofa and off the TV to vote. That's why you need lots of them. Cause they are so hard to motivate.

I hear Obammy wants a motor voter at all the Micky Ds. And Micky D should accept food stamps.


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An excellent point....the parasites who receive welfare and do not pay taxes should not be allowed to procreate...if they cannot take care of themselves; they are unable to care for their offspring...draft all parasites into the military....
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Roll back the budget busting bush tax cuts and trim the military.
Problem solved.


Fuck the GOP and fuck that smarmy punk Paul Ryan.
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What about corporate welfare, Joe? This cost far more than programs for the poor, which I'm not a big fan of either.
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I'm not for long-term free-loaders sitting back, having one baby after another, for no other purpose than to qualify for more "welfare" money. But there are other programs like Social Security that people like me have paid into for more than 30 years that I feel have a place. And when you hear that those who collect benefits collect far more than they paid in, they're not telling you that those funds GROW over the years through legitimate and safe investments, like the once grade A US securities.

The problem is we are all being turned against one another instead of joining together and going after the true culprits, the international banks and those involved in the military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex. The fact is, there is PLENTY of money for all legitimate programs, it's just that it has been stolen.

And I'll tell you something else. There is money being made by the Federal Government in terms of oil leases and timber that no one seems to know about nor how much these funds amount to. These fucking oil companies that rip us over the coals at every opportunity should be paying WAY more for the privilege of drilling THE PEOPLE'S oil! And those funds alone would pay for all programs meant to help the elderly, the infirm, the widows and orphans (hint, hint), and others that truly just need assistance until they get back on their feet.

Let's face the facts here. As a people, we have opportunities to generate funds through tariffs, natural resource leases that benefit the people, not the corporations and individuals within government that are selling is short and selling us out.

There is a major effort underway to turn us against each other. We must resist this at all cost and focus on the true criminals, liars, cheats, and thieves. Seriously, give a second thought everyone, to blaming our economic situation on a small handful of slackers. They can be handled with little effort. We need to stand together, all of us, against the true perpetrators of the crimes that are hidden from view. A good place to start would be a true accounting of all funds generated by the FedGov. There is no reason at all that any of us should be paying a fucking income tax. That is nothing more than a control mechanism.

Think people, our lives depend on it.
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how about you stop moaning and making threads about the welfare system that takes a tiny ammount of money from the taxpayers compared to the big banks and bailouts that steal trillions of dollars in tax payers money
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kitty Agreed.
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Politicians should lead the way. If a politician has a net worth of over ten million dollars they should not accept any pension or health plan paid for by the common people.
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The number of social welfare programs in the developed countries of the world are soaring. In the United States we have a Food Stamp program that is growing out of control. Millions and millions of people are jumping into the program to feed their families.

Now the government wants to raise and raise and raise taxes to fund these programs and the people who will have to pay those taxes are feeling the pinch. Demonstrations are starting against this nonsense not only in the United States, but in other countries with similar programs.

What are we getting ourselves into???
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LoL You don't know much about the budget, do you? I wont even take time to explain how retarded your tears are.

I'll just leave you with a nice fat cruise
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"THE COMMON MAN CAN NOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT ALL THESE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS."

This is correct. The common man cannot. The rich man can!

This is why we need SOCIALISM. No Billionaires = No poverty!


Any Income over 5 million/year gets hammered with a 95% tax levy. Problem solved.
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"THE COMMON MAN CAN NOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT ALL THESE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS."

This is correct. The common man cannot. The rich man can!

This is why we need SOCIALISM. No Billionaires = No poverty!


Any Income over 5 million/year gets hammered with a 95% tax levy. Problem solved.
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But then the rich would all leave the country, or they wouldn't bother trying to be rich, or any other BS answer that bought off politicians spout.
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The number of social welfare programs in the developed countries of the world are soaring. In the United States we have a Food Stamp program that is growing out of control. Millions and millions of people are jumping into the program to feed their families.

Now the government wants to raise and raise and raise taxes to fund these programs and the people who will have to pay those taxes are feeling the pinch. Demonstrations are starting against this nonsense not only in the United States, but in other countries with similar programs.

What are we getting ourselves into???
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth


The goal is to raise taxes so high in order to get the common man on multiple welfare programs.

You are already on Social Security. If they get you on food stamps and medicare then they potentially have more leverage on you. They can control what foods are eligible for food stamps and what kind of medical care you get, or even speed up or prolong your death.

Demonstrations on the rise? That is another side benefit since political instability will lead to greater government controls being implemented or, even better, a coup which will inevitably bring about a Marxist/Stalinist dictatorship in America.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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"THE COMMON MAN CAN NOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT ALL THESE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS."

This is correct. The common man cannot. The rich man can!

This is why we need SOCIALISM. No Billionaires = No poverty!


Any Income over 5 million/year gets hammered with a 95% tax levy. Problem solved.
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IDIOT!
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"THE COMMON MAN CAN NOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT ALL THESE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS."

This is correct. The common man cannot. The rich man can!

This is why we need SOCIALISM. No Billionaires = No poverty!


Any Income over 5 million/year gets hammered with a 95% tax levy. Problem solved.
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Yes, comrade, you have the right kind of thinking.
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The number of social welfare programs in the developed countries of the world are soaring. In the United States we have a Food Stamp program that is growing out of control. Millions and millions of people are jumping into the program to feed their families.

Now the government wants to raise and raise and raise taxes to fund these programs and the people who will have to pay those taxes are feeling the pinch. Demonstrations are starting against this nonsense not only in the United States, but in other countries with similar programs.

What are we getting ourselves into???
 Quoting: JoeNeubarth


I agree. We shouldn't feed people who are unable to find work. We should euthanize them or barricade ourselves in stout buildings and wait for their attacks.
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"THE COMMON MAN CAN NOT AFFORD TO SUPPORT ALL THESE SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAMS."

This is correct. The common man cannot. The rich man can!

This is why we need SOCIALISM. No Billionaires = No poverty!


Any Income over 5 million/year gets hammered with a 95% tax levy. Problem solved.
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IDIOT!
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Only someone with severe mental illness would call this person an idiot. Thankfully, our leader President Barack Obama, has implemented a new healthcare program to ensure that people like you can receive medical treatment for your mental condition. Hopefully, they will administer some Zoloft or Paxil to you and that will do the trick. Of course, Obama's plan will cover institutionalization should that be necessary in your case.

Rest assured, comrade, that a dedicated government worker has logged your IP address and noted your mental illness in your internet profile.
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Joe, how about letting us in on what social welfare programs that you now participate in or get benefit from? SS, Medicare, fire, police, military, paved roads,.......?
 Quoting: Xeitgeist 865957

Sure, I am on Social Security at age 63. I am not on any other program.

I have medical and dental care paid for through my former employer. It costs me $250 a month, but is not welfare.

As far as Social Security Goes, I have paid into the program 178,651 Dollars in my lifetime. I am receiving back $1,400 a month. At that rate, I am going to have to live for a hell of a long time to get my money back without interest.
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Joe you will need to live 10 years before you start becoming a drain. So give me your address so that when you are 72 and a half I can confirm you have done the hoorable thing and offed yourself. People your age are most responsible for the mess we are in. You took and took and wasted and wasted in the goodtimes. All you did was bitch about the government and taxes. Now you want to sit back in the badtimes and bitch. You disgust me.
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The number of social welfare programs in the developed countries of the world are soaring. In the United States we have a Food Stamp program that is growing out of control. Millions and millions of people are jumping into the program to feed their families.

Now the government wants to raise and raise and raise taxes to fund these programs and the people who will have to pay those taxes are feeling the pinch. Demonstrations are starting against this nonsense not only in the United States, but in other countries with similar programs.

What are we getting ourselves into???
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The thing is, Joe, that we really don't know if we could or not. As long as we are pouring trillions of dollars into the military we will never know. Without supporting all the defense industries and the military, we might be able to.





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