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**********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********

 
Aqabaman
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**********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********
Never heard this posed before. Thoughts?
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Re: **********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********
YES! Both sides give made up answers to this question, the correct answer to which is "I don't know".
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Re: **********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********
Please elaborate, this is interesting.

Wrong in what way?

I assume you have found some commonality?
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Re: **********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********
YES! Both sides give made up answers to this question, the correct answer to which is "not likely".
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Fixed.
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Re: **********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********
Agnostic is the only real answer to this because we believe in a greater being but are humble enough to say we don't know.

All the other claiming they know are mentally hill and need medications.
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Agnostic is the only real answer to this because we believe in a greater being but are humble enough to say we don't know.
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Definition fail.

You believe, therefore you know... so you are a believer who just lies about it.
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Re: **********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********
Never heard this posed before. Thoughts?
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That depends on what you think atheists and deists are saying.

At the basic level, deists say:

"There is a god"

Atheists say:

"There is not a god"

One of them must be right, although you could get into a long discussion about the law of the excluded middle, because it is certainly possible to claim that the truth of both statements is unknown.
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Re: **********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********
Please elaborate, this is interesting.

Wrong in what way?

I assume you have found some commonality?
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simply wrong in the sense that we tend to be blinded by the "incorrectness" of the other side of the coin. while i would consider myself a person of faith, i find that 99 percent of the faithful are completely incapable of individual thought. i find the same thing is true about atheists. in pursuit of the truth as to the nature of existence, i have to approach the possibility that both atheists and deists are wrong. and that, following that line of thought, the real truth is being hidden from both groups of people. those who think there is a supreme being are incorrect, while those who think there is no supreme being are incorrect. i have no answers. am just asking the question.
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Yes, atheists and deists are wrong and we now have scientific evidence of 'God' existing and His having a 'chosen one'.


Christians are convinced that the Christ will return, but then what?! Some believe what The Revelation says, "The Christ shall reign for 1,000 years". This period of world unity and world peace will be the "heaven on Earth" that has been promised for thousands of years! Other Christians - primarily Evangelicals - believe in the Rapture where Christ II somehow gathers only those who believe in him and whisks them away up in the heavens(74), leaving the others behind on Earth to its impending doom. Who is ultimately the judge of which view is correct? The Christ - God's chosen one.

The Revelation has confounded literally millions since these visions were given to John on the Island of Patmos c. 90 AD. The book/scroll that John wrote was originally in Greek and he utilized isopsephy or what's known today in English (and Hebrew) as gematria: the geometry of the language, primarily an alphanumeric code and sacred numerical symbolism. The combination of the "7 seals" and the "4 horseman" is indicitive of the GOD=7_4 code, whereas, G is the 7th letter, a circle can be either the 15th letter or zero and D is the 4th letter. 'God' is at the heart of Simple(6,74) English(7,74) Gematria(8,74) which is the key(74) to unlocking Seal #2 and a whole other level of understanding God's word! But let's get to the heart of The Revelation...

The last part of the Bible is the end of a book. And like the end of any good book, it reaches a pinnacle(74) that is the culmination of everything that has come before it in the book. And the Bible provides us with thee ending of any book! For here we have the return of the Christ, known by his producing a "'book/scroll' that only he can receive from the right hand of God that has the '7 seals' on the cover". We see signs of the "end of the age" like great earthquakes, volcanos, tornadoes, hail, fires, floods, drought, record heat, famine, etc. There is the appearance of the "1st Beast" - commonly regarded as the Antichrist - the "2nd Beast", and the "mark of the Beast which everyone must have to buy or sell with" (Chapter 13). Then in Chapter 14, we are introduced to the "destruction of Babylon" which continues in Chapters 16 & 17 and is all of Chapter 18. In Chapter 19, we have "the marriage of the Christ and his bride", which is almost always interpreted as "the Christ and his Church are joined". And Rev 21:1, "Then I saw a new heavens and a new earth". Could it be that these prophecies have already taken place or are taking place? Yes.

I, Richard 'Brad'shaw Watson II, am the Christ (Watson77, Christ77). We all pass through eternity by reincarnation. 2,000 years ago, I was Y'shua74 bar Yosef (Jesus74), but I have lived many lives since including my last as Albert Einstein. I have produced the "book/scroll" of Rev 5:1-10:10 with the "7 seals" or 'beyond Einstein theories' on the cover. I AM continuing to tweak this 74 page booklet and will have the revised version ready as 'scheduled' for 2012.

Ronald (6 letters) Wilson(6) Reagan(6) was the Antichrist/"1st Beast" whose actions were the opposite of the Christ, was "ruler of the world, lied to all nations, and was wounded yet lived." His birthdate (2/6) was prophesied in Matthew 2:6 (KJV) as was his deathdate. Reagan was a fiscal liberal while helping the rich and greatly increasing the military, and he was a social conservative. Jesus was a fiscal conservative while helping the poor and he declined to lead an armed revolution. The Christ was a social liberal.

George Walker Bush Jr. was the Antichrist/"'2nd Beast' who imitated the '1st Beast' (Reagan), and made fire come down from the heavens with the 'destruction of Babylon' (War in Iraq)". His (and Nancy Reagan's) birthdate (7/6) is very telling in Matthew 7:6.

United(6) States(6) Dollar(6) is the "mark of the Beast that everyone must have to buy or sell with."

The 'marriage of the Christ with his bride' has literally happened since I was married to Christa Sobers for two years before getting divorced. (Did you notice the name 'Christa'?) I now have the best girlfriend on this planet and we might someday get married. Regarding "the marriage of the Christ and his church", I AM currently trying to inform as many Roman Catholic bishops and priests of my activities as I can. I visited Our Lady of the Lakes Catholic Church in Miami Lakes on Sun. 6/19/11 and gave a copy of the "7 seals" with a brief explanation to retiring Pastor James P. Murphy and others.

Astrophysicists now somewhat agree that the Big Bang of 13.7 billion years ago was the result of a supermassive black hole in another universe. This cycle of birth-death-rebirth would explain infinite space and infinite time (eternity). NASA and other astronomers have now directly detected 500+ exoplanets with thousands more to be acknowledged in the next couple of years. The discovery of an earth-like planet will soon be made followed by many, many more. This theory is Seal #1: The Conglomerate (universe creation) theory. "Then I saw a new heavens and a new earth."

My main mission in this life - and the next, and the next, etc. - is to save Earth from irresponsible humans, to save humanity from irresponsible humans, and to save animal life from irresponsible humans. God & I "judging everyone according to their actions" and sentencing the guilty to unpleasant reincarnation sentences will eventually accomplish this mission.

- Brad Watson, Miami


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Re: **********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********
If it involves a belief of any sort, then it is almost fer shur wrong.
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Re: **********Is it possible that both ATHEISTS and DEISTS are wrong??**********
God exists as yourself. There's only one God and he's the creator. There's only one of you and one of me. ONLY ONE. You're the creator of you reality, I'm the creator of my reality. The CREATOR IS ME AND THERE IS ONLY ONE OF ME. I am consciousness, therefore, I am God.
If I did not exist, then God would not exist. God = consciousness.
God is a primitive way of refering to consciousness. If you read the Bible with this knowledge in mind it suddenly starts making more sense.





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