Is the lazy suburban housewife who mooches off her husband any better than the welfare mom with six kids?

I guess this means YOUR wife does? Too bad, you should have known her better before you asked her to marry you. Some expectations should have been set up before hand. If you aren't married STFU.

OH, so you don't know shit about kids either.

Do you mean like Bill Clinton?

Frankly, I've seen some men bloom when they finally get away from the nag who is draining all their resources and making life hell for them on top of it. You are stuck in some feminist paradigm where the long-suffering women just want to do their best while the man unfairly gains untold wealth on her back. It's not always so. Sometimes the man works hard and the nagging leech just profits off him. Period.

Both lazy. At least one doesn't cost the taxpayer.

That's the problem - the lazy suburban housewife very much can cost the taxpayer if the moron husband dies without a big life insurance policy.

These leeches can also get into taxpayer territory if the husband can't keep up alimony payments after a divorce.

Housewives are used to being the boss of the house for years or decades, they have no useful skills or let once-attained skills whither. So they can't get a good job and they can't even rise up with a less-important job because of their arrogant stance. They can't work at McDonalds because they think they are the boss, but they don't have any skills to make them the boss.

I am one of the few people who don't pretend around these scummy parasites. Most people don't want to get on the wrong side of the husband. I don't care.

Kids who have a person at home making sure they are dong what they are supposed to be doing tend to do better overall. That person could be a man or a woman. I would hardly say this person is a mooch. Raising kids is the most important job most of us will ever do. I stayed home with my kids for a few years. If you try to call me a mooch I will poke your eye out!

The thing is, with kids you will either pay early or you will pay late. The choice is yours. We chose to pay early and get them going on a proper footing rather than trying to real them in when they were teens or twenty-somethings. The last thing we wanted was a stay-at-home kid.

White women are usually good mothers, it seems like Africans make or female want nothing.to.do with their.children and treat them like shit, what a man and wife decide to do is none of your business, 1. I wouldn't have tv in my house anyways nor marry someone who inordinate ly enjoys being passively entertained.

OP, the SAHM can do whatever she pleases in her own home. if she wants to eat Cheetos and watch Oprah, she can. at least her kids are safe and under the same roof. who are you to take her rights away or say that raising her family is not a job. jealous much? my mom raised me very well as a SAHM, never put me in daycare or in the hands of possibly crazy babysitters. I was never around strangers, just my family. you must really envy families like this, and probably don't have both parents in your life.

"... who are you to take her rights away ..."

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No one is going to take the right of a lazy housewife to be a sickening mooch with bad breath in her own house. Well, actually the house that the stupid husband paid for and she gets half because of the divorce laws. That house.

BUT ... we can comment on things, you know. I don't like exploitive moochers and I'm going to say it.

99 percent of the homemakers dont raise their kids to be homemakers.

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If youre not a kid, this isnt something that should have to be explained.

I think housewives can be more irresponsible than average.

One of them - just as an example - ran into my legally parked car and then just went on her merry way. Someone got her license plate number, and I had to sue her in small claims court for my out-of-pocket repair costs. She just ignored my initial letter, and when I called her she said her husband dealt with that stuff, so don't bother her. Her husband was out of town.

I sued her, and she just didn't show up. I then went with the sheriff to her house to execute the judgment. Her husband was furious because she hadn't told him either.

Leeching off a man, doing nothing all day (if you don't have small children) and acting like an irresponsible child are not positive attributes.

If you are taking care of small children who are not in school - that's work. If you have no children and just have a man pay for you while you watch TV and gamble with his money on-line, you are more or less worthless scum.

[Sorry I meant to post this here, not start a new topic]

Have you ever considered the possibility that you are just bad at it?

To the people above who think that it's no one's business if some woman exploits a man and sits on her dumper while he pays for everything:

When my father died, my brother and I were supposed to each get a 50/50 inheritance.

Background: I have worked and saved my whole life and paid for myself. My brother has worked his whole life and paid for a sit-at-home pig. They have no children at home.

The sit-at-home pig threw an absolute fit about the inheritance. She said that they needed the money a lot more than me, so they should get more. My brother knew that wasn't fair, but he didn't dare oppose the sit-at-home pig.

I just gave them more and got less than my 50%. Problem solved.

The problem with the sit-at-home pig is that she gets more and more entitled and starts branching out to exploiting others. They start losing boundaries. And the hard-working husband is not going to say a word, he knows the power she would have in family court.

Something needs to change. Give these pigs bridge alimony to find a job, but no more permanent alimony. For some reason, a push to eliminate permanent alimony was vetoed a few years ago in Florida, for instance. I can't even get close to understanding that.

And the funny thing is ... even I didn't dare suggest to the pig that if they were really tight on money, and they had no children at home, maybe ... she should get a job.

It's just bizarre. It's not just that she would have screamed back at me that it's none of my business (even though it directly impacted my money), she would have gone to her "network" of sit-at-home pigs, and THEY would have all agreed that anyone who says that is just awful. Maybe she and her "network" would have started trashing me to anyone who would listen - they sure have enough time for things like that.

I did the right thing. I shut my mouth, smiled and just paid.

Big difference.

One has the government looking after her and her children.

Sadly.

The other is being looked after and thus looking after.

The only similarity is the desire to breed!

If dopey, insecure men have to pay a woman to like them, I don't know what to say. Get some self-esteem.

Women who leech off the government and women who leech off an individual man (either pre- or post-divorce, the latter with forced alimony from the man) have a lot in common, actually.

Many of them treat service workers, or anyone working people they deal with in life, like crap. They have no conception themselves of work, so they have no empathy with working people. They never have to tone down their ego to survive in a job. The government will pay no matter how nasty they are, and the husband can also be made to pay (alimony) even if he wises up and tries to get away from her and have some semblance of a life.

I have no clue as to why people praise sit-on-their-duff women above. They don't deserve it. Handling small children is not a picnic, but if the kids are gone in school, or IF THERE ARE NO CHILDREN, sit-at-homes are pathetic.

Much better country when mom stayed home. Infinitely challenging to run a successful household , to build that household into an estate filled with children, temperance, love , respect. A bulwark against the pervasive viral influence of the world's destructive philosophies. But, the progressive modernist mind trap was sprung, now we will have to gnaw off a limb to be free again.

"They have no conception themselves of work, so they have no empathy with working people."

My impression has also been that both types of leeches - welfare parasites and manipulators of chivalrous White Knight men - don't take responsibility for anything they have done. Ever.

They also have little in the way of morals. Anything they think they can get away with. Shoplifting? The only problem is whether you get caught or not. Screwing some guy behind your husband's back? Only a matter of whether you think you are going to get caught. Welfare fraud? What are the chances they will find out?

Just stay away from these leeches and their White Knight male enablers.

I wouldn't mind housewives if they would just shut their mouths in social settings and realize what they are. Nothing.

Instead, they have to always be flapping their gums as to how big their house is and that they have a trash compactor and and a built-in ice maker in their double-wide refrigerator and their husband is this or that and just got a promotion and she just read that important novel on the Times bestseller list before you.

Just ... frickin' ... shut ... your ... mouth. If you are going to be a complete parasite, just do it quietly. I am not impressed with you.

"Infinitely challenging to run a successful household ..."

What absolute, utter BS. So many "White Knight" men cast the most childish women into this role.

Part of the global elites plan for the breakup of the family and getting more money into their grubby little filthy hands was to force both husbands and wives to work to make ends meet!
Men that worked at small hardware stores, shoe salesmen, gas station attendents and other low end jobs actually paid enough in the not too distant past, for a nice modest home, like a nice two or three bedroom house. Only the husband worked, one salary was enough to live a nice life.
Having both husbands and wives working means more tax money! More money to buy things and make the global elite richer!
Men worked hard, but when they got home a good wife had a cold beer or a cocktail waiting and a nice dinner cooked. He had "his chair", which was large, well padded and the best seat in the house! The kids all played outside with neighbor kids and only came in to eat, go to the bathroom, or sleep, so the house stayed cleaner and less toys, clutter.
All the cooking, cleaning, washing up, child care, shopping, tending to sick family members etc. fell to the wife. The husband worked five days and cut the grass and kept up the garage and cars. It was a nice arrangement, usually worked very well and most people were happy. Contrast this with the ratrace we live now and tell me the global elite haven't met their goals?!

It's a different world for many of us. I like nice things too but I am not a human mom (sorry). I believe in a family properly raising it's children in a two parent household.

Give them a break.

The world is changing and not for the better. They need our support.

Nevertheless it's not cool to brag. I'd love to talk about great recipes though lol

Actually, being a parasite can be VERY lucrative.

Linda Hamm never lifted a finger and got a divorce settlement of one billion from her husband, who worked night and day to earn that. And she is appealing it because it is not enough for her.

Patricia Kluge, a former "exotic dancer", married a rich guy and then divorced him. She got a bit under a billion, blew through it, and eventually declared bankruptcy. Who cares! Next rich guy is just waiting to get plucked.

Jocelyn Wildenstein reportedly got around 2.5 billion. Maybe she can buy some more plastic surgery with that.

The enabling men don't understand what women are really about. They invent these fictions of what sit-on-their-fat-ass, mooching women are. They aren't that.

It may very well be likely that raising kids as a stay at home isn't as difficult as women make it out to be, but someone still needs to stay home and do it. Would you rather your kids be raised in a daycare, getting zero concern from the adults and at worst being molested?

If your wife still lets you fuck her at least a couple times a week I see no reason to complain.

Endure: Why would you WANT to work (I assume you are male), while you support some sit-at-home? Why do you WANT that? I really would like to hear it.

You have some contorted vision of what life is about. I can't otherwise picture a rational human being wanting such an unfair situation. You pull the cart and she rides in it.

Are you friggin' nuts? Have you been successfully brainwashed by society? Does one set of adult human beings apparently have a right to being supported by another set of adult human beings? I mean, uhhh, just asking.

The lazy suburban housewife is taking money from her husband's pay check. The welfare mom is taking your money, the taxpayer's dollar.

That's where the difference lies.

"If your wife still lets you fuck her at least a couple times a week I see no reason to complain."

Yeah, let's be so weak that we just take any crumbs we can get, because we have to work and they don't.

I almost can't believe that you are a real human being. You have really been drilled down by society to think that you are worth nothing. Wage slave is all you are capable of, apparently. My advice: Grow a pair.

If the lady isn't taking care of the kids, then I would say yeah. Most kids go to day care for 20k a year, because mothers can't do that job. If your wife can sit at home looking after the children, you have a winner and never think less of her. Looking after children is a full time job.