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Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???

 
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Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
Just maybe looking at this liberally and open minded. Does this man who has killed many people for what might be a noble belief on his behalf, ever be understood or rationalised. Or even any kind of justification? I know God can have mercy on killers in the Bible..... Just something to think about? I would love to hear what you think... Whatever you think. I would like to read your opinions as I believe this is important to understand from as many points of view as possible. Thank you
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You make choices and hope they were the right ones.
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
This is a false flag psyop.

Friday was a holiday, so no big wigs were around to be in danger from the bombs.

Only victims were little kids at a camp, regardless of how political or not it may have been.

People with enough intelligence to pull off an attack don't target kids, they target globalists controllers and their puppet politicians. And they certainly don't forget about holidays if they plan on blowing up government buildings.
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
This is a false flag psyop.

Friday was a holiday, so no big wigs were around to be in danger from the bombs.

Only victims were little kids at a camp, regardless of how political or not it may have been.

People with enough intelligence to pull off an attack don't target kids, they target globalists controllers and their puppet politicians. And they certainly don't forget about holidays if they plan on blowing up government buildings.
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^^this - 9 years planning.... whoops!

And they certainly don't forget about holidays if they plan on blowing up government buildings.

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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
The point I believe can be found by digging through the wormhole here. You really don't have to go too far to find it either. The circles are just to distract from the obvious. MSM are reporting it is from the innocent Europeans being invaded by 25 million Muslims. NO. Tie in the governments around the world bleeding the wealth, and the Celestial evens taking place in and just outside of our solar system, and the reason becomes blazin clear. It is coming

The collective feels it. Soon there will be no denying what is to come, mass panic and fear will grip us all.
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
The point I believe can be found by digging through the wormhole here. You really don't have to go too far to find it either. The circles are just to distract from the obvious. MSM are reporting it is from the innocent Europeans being invaded by 25 million Muslims. NO. Tie in the governments around the world bleeding the wealth, and the Celestial evens taking place in and just outside of our solar system, and the reason becomes blazin clear. It is coming

The collective feels it. Soon there will be no denying what is to come, mass panic and fear will grip us all.
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Thread: *** PLEASE READ*** I dont see this posted, apparently this is the norway dudes site? Plans to Nuke the US??
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
Definitely a man of deep conviction, he is no different to any other revolutionary in that respect, tragic this case may be, but the guy is bang on the money!

The guy is a genius, attacking the system that is allowing the islamization, rather than islam sends the most powerful message that can be sent, it says if you allow islamization of my country, not only will you bombed and murdered by islamists but you will be bombed and murdered by your own countrymen.

Unfortunately, in war, and lets not kid ourselves, this is a war of civilizations, kids and people become innocent victims.

Lets hope the loss of life in this case is not wasted and the western politicians start to listen to the average man and woman on the street, the immigration and islamization has to stop now, we are heading for civil war in many countries a lot sooner than most people think.
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
Right about what?

That children are born "socialist" or "Muslim" (can't say "Jewish" here, since
no-one as of yet has been able to explain to me whether that is an ethnicity
or a religion)..?

I'll let you know when I find a point of view that renders killing innocents
the fruit of "noble belief".

Understood, rationalised...hehheh, well...let's just say nobody is surprised
that it happened. Strange, isn't it, how these political/religious terrorists
so seldom manage to harm or even scratch the people they hate the most -
the politicians in charge.
And how this type of event always plays into the hands of the globalist
agenda, obviously fishy details and all.

Questions need to be asked, but do not expect the msm nor the public prosecutor to pose the right ones.

Sickening, the way the spin was on over here right from the breaking of the
news. Journalism is dead and buried in ol' Finland - propagandists prosper.

Bollocks.


Sad for the families of the victims :(
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
This is a false flag psyop.

Friday was a holiday, so no big wigs were around to be in danger from the bombs.

Only victims were little kids at a camp, regardless of how political or not it may have been.

People with enough intelligence to pull off an attack don't target kids, they target globalists controllers and their puppet politicians. And they certainly don't forget about holidays if they plan on blowing up government buildings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442186

^^this - 9 years planning.... whoops!

And they certainly don't forget about holidays if they plan on blowing up government buildings.
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Firday was no special holiday in Norway.
It's just that in July that most norwegians have summer vacation, thus less activity in city center.
At that time on a different time of year, probably many more peoples would have been in the area on their way from work.

But no national holiday or closed offices, just that July is a low-activity month in norway because of summer holiday.
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
Op are you a tard, a moran or do you just live in la la land?

Watch the movie Manchurian Candidate. Denzel and Merle are grrrreat.
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Op are you a tard, a moran or do you just live in la la land?

Watch the movie Manchurian Candidate. Denzel and Merle are grrrreat.
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Well probably all of these... And more. I agree the Manchurian Candidate is a good film.
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
Just maybe looking at this liberally and open minded. Does this man who has killed many people for what might be a noble belief on his behalf, ever be understood or rationalised. Or even any kind of justification? I know God can have mercy on killers in the Bible..... Just something to think about? I would love to hear what you think... Whatever you think. I would like to read your opinions as I believe this is important to understand from as many points of view as possible. Thank you
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In his mind he has snuffed out nothing more than future subversives. He's probably correct in that belief.
The spin comes from the belief that invaderes are equally justified to a nations or cultures resources.
Progressives always kill off entire families of real,potential or imaginary subversives when they get a chance.
Just like you lot running off any non tribemembers you could, at every opportunity
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
This is a false flag psyop.

Friday was a holiday, so no big wigs were around to be in danger from the bombs.

Only victims were little kids at a camp, regardless of how political or not it may have been.

People with enough intelligence to pull off an attack don't target kids, they target globalists controllers and their puppet politicians. And they certainly don't forget about holidays if they plan on blowing up government buildings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442186

^^this - 9 years planning.... whoops!

And they certainly don't forget about holidays if they plan on blowing up government buildings.
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4. Make a sound in the east, then strike in the west

In any battle the element of surprise can provide an overwhelming advantage. Even when face to face with an enemy, surprise can still be employed by attacking where he least expects it. To do this you must create an expectation in the enemy's mind through the use of a feint.


Usage: Same as 1. The idea here is to get the enemy to focus his forces in a location, and then attack elsewhere which would be weakly defended. This might prove to be counter-productive in compact European cities depending on the nature of the operation.
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The bomb was the sound in the east.
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his thought and opinions may be righteous.

but his acts most certainly were not!

also he's a hypocrite for acting like the muzzies he's so against.
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
Definitely a man of deep conviction, he is no different to any other revolutionary in that respect, tragic this case may be, but the guy is bang on the money!

The guy is a genius, attacking the system that is allowing the islamization, rather than islam sends the most powerful message that can be sent, it says if you allow islamization of my country, not only will you bombed and murdered by islamists but you will be bombed and murdered by your own countrymen.

Unfortunately, in war, and lets not kid ourselves, this is a war of civilizations, kids and people become innocent victims.

Lets hope the loss of life in this case is not wasted and the western politicians start to listen to the average man and woman on the street, the immigration and islamization has to stop now, we are heading for civil war in many countries a lot sooner than most people think.
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Are you trying to justify what this mental case did? If so, you're as bad as he is. That was an act of terrorism, not a just war in any sense of the word.
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
This is a false flag psyop.

Friday was a holiday, so no big wigs were around to be in danger from the bombs.

Only victims were little kids at a camp, regardless of how political or not it may have been.

People with enough intelligence to pull off an attack don't target kids, they target globalists controllers and their puppet politicians. And they certainly don't forget about holidays if they plan on blowing up government buildings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442186


the children in the camp were the target! these leftwing politicians may think about their dead children when they sign the next immigration law...
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
Definitely a man of deep conviction, he is no different to any other revolutionary in that respect, tragic this case may be, but the guy is bang on the money!

The guy is a genius, attacking the system that is allowing the islamization, rather than islam sends the most powerful message that can be sent, it says if you allow islamization of my country, not only will you bombed and murdered by islamists but you will be bombed and murdered by your own countrymen.

Unfortunately, in war, and lets not kid ourselves, this is a war of civilizations, kids and people become innocent victims.

Lets hope the loss of life in this case is not wasted and the western politicians start to listen to the average man and woman on the street, the immigration and islamization has to stop now, we are heading for civil war in many countries a lot sooner than most people think.
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Are you trying to justify what this mental case did? If so, you're as bad as he is. That was an act of terrorism, not a just war in any sense of the word.
 Quoting: Alison 828421


To be honest with you, I pondering any principle justification IF any at all. From any point of view. Just to throw in some more thought... In some cases even a governments military and law enforcers are justified under the same principle of killing... Forgive me for any offence. - I believe this man who killed people is not actually "mental" as he seemed to have thought very calculatedly and un-impulsively and was very aware of his actions. He also takes responsiblity for his actions. Although could this be passed through a sentence of "Diminshed Responsibilty" As he clearly has extended boundaries to what we, the mainstream have? Or simply an Evil act that deserves the most severest punishment(s). I strongly believe that more understanding is necessary.
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Re: Norway's Oslo killer has a point - Could this killing and motive reason be looked at liberally and possibly reasoned? Maybe he could be right???
Definitely a man of deep conviction, he is no different to any other revolutionary in that respect, tragic this case may be, but the guy is bang on the money!

The guy is a genius, attacking the system that is allowing the islamization, rather than islam sends the most powerful message that can be sent, it says if you allow islamization of my country, not only will you bombed and murdered by islamists but you will be bombed and murdered by your own countrymen.

Unfortunately, in war, and lets not kid ourselves, this is a war of civilizations, kids and people become innocent victims.

Lets hope the loss of life in this case is not wasted and the western politicians start to listen to the average man and woman on the street, the immigration and islamization has to stop now, we are heading for civil war in many countries a lot sooner than most people think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1201183
Are you trying to justify what this mental case did? If so, you're as bad as he is. That was an act of terrorism, not a just war in any sense of the word.
 Quoting: Alison 828421


To be honest with you, I pondering any principle justification IF any at all. From any point of view. Just to throw in some more thought... In some cases even a governments military and law enforcers are justified under the same principle of killing... Forgive me for any offence. - I believe this man who killed people is not actually "mental" as he seemed to have thought very calculatedly and un-impulsively and was very aware of his actions. He also takes responsiblity for his actions. Although could this be passed through a sentence of "Diminshed Responsibilty" As he clearly has extended boundaries to what we, the mainstream have? Or simply an Evil act that deserves the most severest punishment(s). I strongly believe that more understanding is necessary.
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I think it is an evil act that deserves the most severe punishment. I do agree with you that more understanding is necessary. If we understand what motivates these fruitcakes, it might be possible to prevent their killing sprees.

Better immigration laws would help to prevent some terrorist attacks, also.
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Right about what?

That children are born "socialist" or "Muslim" (can't say "Jewish" here, since
no-one as of yet has been able to explain to me whether that is an ethnicity
or a religion)..?

I'll let you know when I find a point of view that renders killing innocents
the fruit of "noble belief".

Understood, rationalised...hehheh, well...let's just say nobody is surprised
that it happened. Strange, isn't it, how these political/religious terrorists
so seldom manage to harm or even scratch the people they hate the most -
the politicians in charge.
And how this type of event always plays into the hands of the globalist
agenda, obviously fishy details and all.

Questions need to be asked, but do not expect the msm nor the public prosecutor to pose the right ones.

Sickening, the way the spin was on over here right from the breaking of the
news. Journalism is dead and buried in ol' Finland - propagandists prosper.

Bollocks.


Sad for the families of the victims :(
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner 1191993


"progressives' have always targeted children for propaganda purposes and made them targets. Just as in suomi, outsiders and other culturalists infect the children by subverting their cultural teachings. If one makes children into invasive functionaries one only has so many options in how to deal with them and the theat they pose effectively.
Perhaps exileing the children to lands that already use the operating system they promote would be a good alternative?
Blame the parents, blame the leaders for indoctrinating an army of rosey cheeked saboteurs, but they must be turned back at the very least if ones home nation and culture is to prevail against subversion.
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OP I was just thinking that

if you look at the millions of victims that Communism consumed, and if you just look at the fate of Europe, America, Canada, UK Australia, etc etc under cultural Marxism and the yoke of Multiculturalism tightening its noose, we are at our last gasp

never in history has a population displaced itself willingly for foreigners, and never has a population sold out their childrens' interests with a smile to appease the Gods of Multucult

this is a war, a non publicized war, but a most deadly and real one nonetheless, that people of european ancestry are losing in a big way, and in 50 years we will cease to exist

did he have a casus belli? I'd say yes, but his actions has made it harder for others to speak out

this next video is very telling

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This is a false flag psyop.

Friday was a holiday, so no big wigs were around to be in danger from the bombs.

Only victims were little kids at a camp, regardless of how political or not it may have been.

People with enough intelligence to pull off an attack don't target kids, they target globalists controllers and their puppet politicians. And they certainly don't forget about holidays if they plan on blowing up government buildings.
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correct!
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Definitely a man of deep conviction, he is no different to any other revolutionary in that respect, tragic this case may be, but the guy is bang on the money!

The guy is a genius, attacking the system that is allowing the islamization, rather than islam sends the most powerful message that can be sent, it says if you allow islamization of my country, not only will you bombed and murdered by islamists but you will be bombed and murdered by your own countrymen.

Unfortunately, in war, and lets not kid ourselves, this is a war of civilizations, kids and people become innocent victims.

Lets hope the loss of life in this case is not wasted and the western politicians start to listen to the average man and woman on the street, the immigration and islamization has to stop now, we are heading for civil war in many countries a lot sooner than most people think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1201183
Are you trying to justify what this mental case did? If so, you're as bad as he is. That was an act of terrorism, not a just war in any sense of the word.
 Quoting: Alison 828421


To be honest with you, I pondering any principle justification IF any at all. From any point of view. Just to throw in some more thought... In some cases even a governments military and law enforcers are justified under the same principle of killing... Forgive me for any offence. - I believe this man who killed people is not actually "mental" as he seemed to have thought very calculatedly and un-impulsively and was very aware of his actions. He also takes responsiblity for his actions. Although could this be passed through a sentence of "Diminshed Responsibilty" As he clearly has extended boundaries to what we, the mainstream have? Or simply an Evil act that deserves the most severest punishment(s). I strongly believe that more understanding is necessary.
 Quoting: OP 1480826


I think it is an evil act that deserves the most severe punishment. I do agree with you that more understanding is necessary. If we understand what motivates these fruitcakes, it might be possible to prevent their killing sprees.

Better immigration laws would help to prevent some terrorist attacks, also.
 Quoting: Alison 828421


the man was norwegian....

immigration won´t help there...
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OP I was just thinking that

if you look at the millions of victims that Communism consumed, and if you just look at the fate of Europe, America, Canada, UK Australia, etc etc under cultural Marxism and the yoke of Multiculturalism tightening its noose, we are at our last gasp

never in history has a population displaced itself willingly for foreigners, and never has a population sold out their childrens' interests with a smile to appease the Gods of Multucult

this is a war, a non publicized war, but a most deadly and real one nonetheless, that people of european ancestry are losing in a big way, and in 50 years we will cease to exist

did he have a casus belli? I'd say yes, but his actions has made it harder for others to speak out

this next video is very telling


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1262006


MMM... The reason why he killed these children was that they happened to be the children of rulers of whom are allowing a Norway to become multicultural, allowing the space for a tentative spreading of those who enforce Islam from moderation to a very strong "extreme" point. Also the government buildings where the car bomb exploded was to draw attention to his point of view against the principles of the EU governments softy softy approach to Islamic integration. This is why he is standing trial, and has not killed himself and will speak out in court. Interestingly enough when he wrote his book a few years ago he new the media and the mainstream would label him as a terrorist. I love muslims but Islamists can be quite a strange frame work to obey and submit to.
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OP, assume you were one of the victims - how does that affect your analysis?
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People everywhere are getting sick of the muzzies and their demands that everyone accommodate their every wish. I think this is the first of many such incidents. At some point people take stands, if their government wont.
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Depends on if you want your sons and daughters to grow up in a world ran by an Arabic death cult?

If not and you're not one of those turn the other cheek while some muzzies raping your grand-kids types then what he did was right.

In action in the face of evil is action in itself.
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OP, assume you were one of the victims - how does that affect your analysis?
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If I was a victim - assuming, I would feel sick with nerves, scared, fearful, and panic stricken and shaking like jelly due to shock. With my heart racing due to fear. I'm just going to be honest with you. - I would also be living with images of the fallen around me. The last look on there faces. And the disturbing look of death that would play on the mind. - Of course we are all human. The question is? Does our democracies give enough space and listen enough to people of all the spectrum and the upright in heart? Do the rulers, rule as they should? Does it really take violence to make some people wind down there sound proofed, armoured vehicles windows and take time to listen to joe public that are experiencing on the ground the reality of and results of these policys implemented by those in power? Would prevention be better than cure?
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The BIG problem is in this case that he killed his own ethnic white people, NOT muzzies or immigrants.

They said he was against immigrants but he killed ethnic Norwegians...this doesn't make sense...unless it was something else: a demonic masonic human sacrifice ritual, that's why they stopped the police from acting so the question is how many government members are involved into this.

Peace
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The BIG problem is in this case that he killed his own ethnic white people, NOT muzzies or immigrants.

They said he was against immigrants but he killed ethnic Norwegians...this doesn't make sense...unless it was something else: a demonic masonic human sacrifice ritual, that's why they stopped the police from acting so the question is how many government members are involved into this.

Peace
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The Marxist train their kids in camps to become just like them.

Unless the cycle is broken nothing can be achieved.
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OP, assume you were one of the victims - how does that affect your analysis?
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If I was a victim - assuming, I would feel sick with nerves, scared, fearful, and panic stricken and shaking like jelly due to shock. With my heart racing due to fear. I'm just going to be honest with you. - I would also be living with images of the fallen around me. The last look on there faces. And the disturbing look of death that would play on the mind. - Of course we are all human. The question is? Does our democracies give enough space and listen enough to people of all the spectrum and the upright in heart? Do the rulers, rule as they should? Does it really take violence to make some people wind down there sound proofed, armoured vehicles windows and take time to listen to joe public that are experiencing on the ground the reality of and results of these policys implemented by those in power? Would prevention be better than cure?
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OP, say you were a surviving victim, questions like those would not cross your mind yet, maybe down the road.

youre poking at something else
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No. It is unacceptable to do that for any reason.

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