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THE REDUCTIVE ARROGANCE OF CHRISTIANITY

 
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Here it is kiddies. What you've all been waiting for.


THE SERMON FROM MY COUCH


ALL THAT EXISTS IS CONSCIOUSNESS BOUND BY FORM. CONSCIOUSNESS IS UBIQUITIOUS AND SUPER FLUID - THE SAP OF THREE IF YOU WILL THAT PERMEATES, SUPPORTS AND MAINTAINS CREATION.

MAN, BY VIRTUE OF MIND, HAS THE ABILITY TO MANIPULATE HIS CONTAINER OF CONSCIOUSNESS TO CREATE AT WILL. IT IS A MATTER OF DEEPENING AND REFINING CONSCIOUSNESS EXPONENTIALLY TO MAP TO THE UNLIMITED SEA OF CONSCIOUSNESS THAT SUPPORTS ALL THAT IS.

THIS IS NOT A QUICK PROCESS. IT TAKES HUNDREDS OF LIFETIMES AND MORE. IT REQUIRES THE INFUSION OF THE TRANSCENDENT OF QUANTUM FIELD INTO MIND - SO THAT MIND ACTS FROM THE MOST POWERFUL LEVEL OF CREATION - THE PURE QUANTUM FIELD OF INFINITE DYNAMIC POTENTIALITY.

THERE ARE METHODS AND PRACTICES WHICH ASSIST IN THIS GROWTH AND PURIFICATION OF CONSCIOUSNESS, BUT THERE IS NO ONE KEY OR SHORTCUT. IT IS LARGELY A MATTER OF LIVING LIFE AND LEARNING THROUGH EXPERIENCE - AND REALIZING THAT WE ARE NOT OUR BODIES OR OUR MINDS - BUT WE ARE CONSCIOUSNESS. AND FROM CONSCIOUSNESS ALL DERIVES.

MANKIND HAS MARKED HIS TERRITORY IN CONSCIOUSNESS ALONG THE WAY WITH ENTRENCHED SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT DEPICTING PLACES OF CONSCIOUSNESS. THESE HAVE BECOME ENSHRINED AND EMBEDDED IN BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AS BEING NOT ONLY A GOOD PLACE TO BE, BUT THE ONLY PLACE TO BE IN CONSCIOUSNESS. I GIVE YOU RELIGION.


BUT THESE OASIS OF CONSCIOUSNESS ARE JUST THAT. REST STOPS. TO THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS OF CONSCIOUSNESS, THERE IS ONLY ONE PRIME MOTIVATION AND DIRECTION IN LIFE - TO MOVE HIGHER AND FURTHER IN CONSCIOUSNESS. FOR THERE IS NO LIMIT. AND THE HIGHER ONE GOES, THE MORE INTEGRATED ONE BECOMES WITH LIFE AND WITH ALL THAT IS - AND THE MORE ONE DEMONSTRATES THE INFINITE CREATIVE POWER OF THE MIND.


NOW, THOSE WHO HAVE STOPPED TRAVELING AND INSTEAD FIND THEMSELVES DEFENDING THEIR PLACE OF REST, CANNOT BE REASONED WITH. THEY HAVE STOPPED MOVING. THEIR WORLD HAS STOPPED EXPANDING. THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS HAS STOPPED GROWING. THEY HAVE PLANTED THEIR FLAGS AND WILL NOW DEFEND THEIR TURF TILL THE END OF THEIR DAYS. SO BE IT.


BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE KEPT MOVING AND GROWING AND WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF LOOKING BACK AND SEEING WHERE WE WERE, PERHAPS LIFETIMES AGO, AND REALIZING THAT OTHERS HAVE STOPPED MOVING AND GROWING. THAT IS THEIR RIGHT. THAT IS THEIR DECISION. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY PRESUME TO PREACH TO THE WORLD THAT THEIR STATIC POSITION IS WHAT'S BEST FOR ALL IN THE EYES OF THEIR INVENTED "GOD". AND HEREIN, PROBLEMS ARE CREATED ACROSS ALL SORTS OF LINES.


I FOR ONE DO NOT TAKE OFFENSE AS I CAN UNDERSTAND IT IN TERMS OF CONSCIOUSNESS - AND WE ALL HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE. AND SO, ALTHOUGH EVERYONE IS VALID IN THE SENSE THAT THEY REPRESENT THEIR OWN PLACE OF CONSCIOUSNESS, SOME OF US NEED TO STOP PREACHING THEIR LIMITED AND LIMITING DOCTRINE TO THE WORLD, FOR IT ONLY LOWERS THE BAR AND SERVES TO STUNT THE GROWTH OF OTHERS.



SALU
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Luciferian egotism is all I see in this.

It has already been debunked when I pointed
out the egotism inherent in your idea of consciousness.

If you have no understanding of the limits of the
conscious mind, how will you know if you are the one
leading consciousness, or the one being led by your
complexes; caught in the eddy current of your own narcissism.
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the deviding polarity line has been drawn, and as the saying.."to be or not to be" ...will have a very new meaning to you very soon now, because the positive and the negative forms will split, and there will be a clear distinction between who was righteous, and who was unrighteous. The new day (recreation) will have no choice in delaying any further, but will come, for the elects sake. You will weep and knash your teeth when you see who are the arrogant ones.
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Here it is kiddies. What you've all been waiting for.


THE SERMON FROM MY COUCH


ALL THAT EXISTS IS CONSCIOUSNESS BOUND BY FORM. CONSCIOUSNESS IS UBIQUITIOUS AND SUPER FLUID - THE SAP OF THREE IF YOU WILL THAT PERMEATES, SUPPORTS AND MAINTAINS CREATION.

MAN, BY VIRTUE OF MIND, HAS THE ABILITY TO MANIPULATE HIS CONTAINER OF CONSCIOUSNESS TO CREATE AT WILL. IT IS A MATTER OF DEEPENING AND REFINING CONSCIOUSNESS EXPONENTIALLY TO MAP TO THE UNLIMITED SEA OF CONSCIOUSNESS THAT SUPPORTS ALL THAT IS.

THIS IS NOT A QUICK PROCESS. IT TAKES HUNDREDS OF LIFETIMES AND MORE. IT REQUIRES THE INFUSION OF THE TRANSCENDENT OF QUANTUM FIELD INTO MIND - SO THAT MIND ACTS FROM THE MOST POWERFUL LEVEL OF CREATION - THE PURE QUANTUM FIELD OF INFINITE DYNAMIC POTENTIALITY.

THERE ARE METHODS AND PRACTICES WHICH ASSIST IN THIS GROWTH AND PURIFICATION OF CONSCIOUSNESS, BUT THERE IS NO ONE KEY OR SHORTCUT. IT IS LARGELY A MATTER OF LIVING LIFE AND LEARNING THROUGH EXPERIENCE - AND REALIZING THAT WE ARE NOT OUR BODIES OR OUR MINDS - BUT WE ARE CONSCIOUSNESS. AND FROM CONSCIOUSNESS ALL DERIVES.

MANKIND HAS MARKED HIS TERRITORY IN CONSCIOUSNESS ALONG THE WAY WITH ENTRENCHED SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT DEPICTING PLACES OF CONSCIOUSNESS. THESE HAVE BECOME ENSHRINED AND EMBEDDED IN BILLIONS OF PEOPLE AS BEING NOT ONLY A GOOD PLACE TO BE, BUT THE ONLY PLACE TO BE IN CONSCIOUSNESS. I GIVE YOU RELIGION.


BUT THESE OASIS OF CONSCIOUSNESS ARE JUST THAT. REST STOPS. TO THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS OF CONSCIOUSNESS, THERE IS ONLY ONE PRIME MOTIVATION AND DIRECTION IN LIFE - TO MOVE HIGHER AND FURTHER IN CONSCIOUSNESS. FOR THERE IS NO LIMIT. AND THE HIGHER ONE GOES, THE MORE INTEGRATED ONE BECOMES WITH LIFE AND WITH ALL THAT IS - AND THE MORE ONE DEMONSTRATES THE INFINITE CREATIVE POWER OF THE MIND.


NOW, THOSE WHO HAVE STOPPED TRAVELING AND INSTEAD FIND THEMSELVES DEFENDING THEIR PLACE OF REST, CANNOT BE REASONED WITH. THEY HAVE STOPPED MOVING. THEIR WORLD HAS STOPPED EXPANDING. THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS HAS STOPPED GROWING. THEY HAVE PLANTED THEIR FLAGS AND WILL NOW DEFEND THEIR TURF TILL THE END OF THEIR DAYS. SO BE IT.


BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE KEPT MOVING AND GROWING AND WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF LOOKING BACK AND SEEING WHERE WE WERE, PERHAPS LIFETIMES AGO, AND REALIZING THAT OTHERS HAVE STOPPED MOVING AND GROWING. THAT IS THEIR RIGHT. THAT IS THEIR DECISION. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT THEY PRESUME TO PREACH TO THE WORLD THAT THEIR STATIC POSITION IS WHAT'S BEST FOR ALL IN THE EYES OF THEIR INVENTED "GOD". AND HEREIN, PROBLEMS ARE CREATED ACROSS ALL SORTS OF LINES.


I FOR ONE DO NOT TAKE OFFENSE AS I CAN UNDERSTAND IT IN TERMS OF CONSCIOUSNESS - AND WE ALL HAVE TO BE SOMEWHERE. AND SO, ALTHOUGH EVERYONE IS VALID IN THE SENSE THAT THEY REPRESENT THEIR OWN PLACE OF CONSCIOUSNESS, SOME OF US NEED TO STOP PREACHING THEIR LIMITED AND LIMITING DOCTRINE TO THE WORLD, FOR IT ONLY LOWERS THE BAR AND SERVES TO STUNT THE GROWTH OF OTHERS.



SALU
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1323894


Luciferian egotism is all I see in this.

It has already been debunked when I pointed
out the egotism inherent in your idea of consciousness.

If you have no understanding of the limits of the
conscious mind, how will you know if you are the one
leading consciousness, or the one being led by your
complexes; caught in the eddy current of your own narcissism.
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A classically stupid person. Stand up for all to see and witness. Thank you.
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the deviding polarity line has been drawn, and as the saying.."to be or not to be" ...will have a very new meaning to you very soon now, because the positive and the negative forms will split, and there will be a clear distinction between who was righteous, and who was unrighteous. The new day (recreation) will have no choice in delaying any further, but will come, for the elects sake. You will weep and knash your teeth when you see who are the arrogant ones.
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I give you the irrevocable mental illness that is Christianity.
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the deviding polarity line has been drawn, and as the saying.."to be or not to be" ...will have a very new meaning to you very soon now, because the positive and the negative forms will split, and there will be a clear distinction between who was righteous, and who was unrighteous. The new day (recreation) will have no choice in delaying any further, but will come, for the elects sake. You will weep and knash your teeth when you see who are the arrogant ones.
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I give you the irrevocable mental illness that is Christianity.
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I don't go to any church. I talk with God, like Moese did.
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Moses
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just sayin, the shift is upon us..right on our doorstep.
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the deviding polarity line has been drawn, and as the saying.."to be or not to be" ...will have a very new meaning to you very soon now, because the positive and the negative forms will split, and there will be a clear distinction between who was righteous, and who was unrighteous. The new day (recreation) will have no choice in delaying any further, but will come, for the elects sake. You will weep and knash your teeth when you see who are the arrogant ones.
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I give you the irrevocable mental illness that is Christianity.
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I don't go to any church. I talk with God, like Moese did.
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I'm sorry for calling you a Christian. You're just mentally ill then.
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Actually, more often than not it does the exact opposite. It tends to drive people into a more brazen expression of a life controlled by ego. That sense of superiority that Christians always have whether they're "being polite" about it or not is "Pure D" Ego. The more their minds "snap-to" in the indoctrination process the more arrogant they get. They become super-deluded using ego satisfaction almost as a drug.
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We need to address this important statement.

Actually, I think you are making a sound criticism
of what can happen to people who are open to society
in an unhealthy way.

This is correctly understood to be egotism, since the
person identifies with a social group and adopts the
memes, or the doctrines, being broadcast.

By meditating, praying, reflecting, continually searching
for answers to the difficult questions it is possible
to short-circuit the influence of "the world" and to find
a quiet refuge from its constant assaults.


I've been calling this- "being open".

So, the personal relationship with God is
antithetical to having a merely social understanding.
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does this mean anything to anyone here?

[link to www.youtube.com]
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A classically stupid person. Stand up for all to see and witness. Thank you.
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And you are also a classic!

Imagine, someone who can't
address the role of the unconscious
in shaping one's perceptions, yet
talks about consciousness as though
he understood the first thing about it!
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I heard Veda in my sleep before I woke.

The Sanskrit word véda "knowledge, wisdom" is derived from the root vid- "to know". This is reconstructed as being derived from the Proto-Indo-European root *u̯eid-, meaning "see" or "know".
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I agree....
Seems implausible... but BIBLICAL Christian theology is absolutely true.
The Bible is PROVABLY a holy book that was penned by God.
The Bible is made up of 66 books penned by 40 distinct inspired authors over 3 or 4 thousand years that is intensely coherent.

It is like the Rapture theology that many Christians have so much trouble with.
Seems implausible.... but it IS in the Bible.
If you study the Jewish marriage traditions you'll discover WHY God chose the Rapture to be part of the 'End Time" scenario.

Atheists are an immensely arrogant FAITH BASED group.
Their existence is soley grounded in anger toward God.
Atheists are so arrogant that they label themselves with a very NON descriptive
made up term: A-THEIST.

Atheists are not simply 'WITHOUT GOD" as they claim. They are actually ANTI-GOD. IE ANTIGODISTS.
A-THEIST more correctly describes we call Agnostics.... don't know/don't care if there is a God.
Thinking Agnostics (of which I once was) would not even consider describing themselves in terms of Gnosticism!
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The Vedas are among the oldest sacred texts. The Samhitas date to roughly 1500–1000 BCE, and the "circum-Vedic" texts, as well as the redaction of the Samhitas, date to c. 1000-500 BCE, resulting in a Vedic period, spanning the mid 2nd to mid 1st millennium BCE, or the Late Bronze Age and the Iron Age.[18]
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Excerpts from your holy bibble:




1: Paul doesn't think women should teach men in church:


I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. (1 Timothy 2:12)

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2: The prophet Samuel orders genocide against a neighbouring people:

This is what the Lord Almighty says... 'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' (1 Samuel 15:3)

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3: Moses doesn't like witches:

Do not allow a sorceress to live. (Exodus 22:18)

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4: The ending of Psalm 137, which equates happiness with, um, violence to babies:

Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks. (Psalm 137:9)

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5: The story from the Book of Judges in which a man tries to appease a mob outside his door by offering up his concubine to them for sexual abuse:

So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, 'Get up; let's go.' But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home. (Judges 19:25-28)

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6: Paul's condemnation of homosexuality:

In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:27)

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7: Jephthah's horrible vow in the book of Judges, which he then actually carries out:

And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord, and said, 'If you will give the Ammonites into my hand, then whoever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return victorious from the Ammonites, shall be the Lord's, to be offered up by me as a burnt-offering.' Then Jephthah came to his home at Mizpah; and there was his daughter coming out to meet him with timbrels and with dancing. She was his only child; he had no son or daughter except her. When he saw her, he tore his clothes, and said, 'Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low; you have become the cause of great trouble to me. For I have opened my mouth to the Lord, and I cannot take back my vow.' (Judges 11:30-1, 34-5)

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8: God's command to Abraham to sacrifice his son:

Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt-offering on one of the mountains that I shall show you. (Genesis 22:2)

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9: Paul's encouragement of wifely submission:

Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. (Ephesians 5:22)

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10: Paul's encouragement of slavely submission, even to cruel masters:

Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel. (1 Peter 2:18)
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solid food comes directly from God, not the bible. The bible has been tampered with. You have a direct link to God, like Jacobs ladder. Just ask God..what is truth.
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watch this..and wake up whores of Babylon


Thread: the serpent
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I agree....
Seems implausible... but BIBLICAL Christian theology is absolutely true.
The Bible is PROVABLY a holy book that was penned by God.
The Bible is made up of 66 books penned by 40 distinct inspired authors over 3 or 4 thousand years that is intensely coherent.

It is like the Rapture theology that many Christians have so much trouble with.
Seems implausible.... but it IS in the Bible.
If you study the Jewish marriage traditions you'll discover WHY God chose the Rapture to be part of the 'End Time" scenario.

Atheists are an immensely arrogant FAITH BASED group.
Their existence is soley grounded in anger toward God.
Atheists are so arrogant that they label themselves with a very NON descriptive
made up term: A-THEIST.

Atheists are not simply 'WITHOUT GOD" as they claim. They are actually ANTI-GOD. IE ANTIGODISTS.
A-THEIST more correctly describes we call Agnostics.... don't know/don't care if there is a God.
Thinking Agnostics (of which I once was) would not even consider describing themselves in terms of Gnosticism!
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This is the stupidest load of drivel I have heard this week! You contradict yourself fundamentally in your first paragraph...The bible is provably penned by God in one sentence and in the very next you say that it was penned by people who were INSPIRED by God. There is a distinct and vast difference between writing a book and inspiring someone to write a book.
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In order to be GOD, there can be ONLY one... and this ONLY ONE no had any creator before Him.

So, there can be only ONE God, and the hyerarchy begins with him. He is the ONLY source of all what exist. ONLY source of all the rues, laws, matter and spirit

All on black and white: Or He is the ORIGIN of everything else or he is not.

If He is, the all follow HIS way, not YOUR way of thinking...
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It must be nice to be able to restrict your imagination to these simplistic terms, because it makes all life and philosophy so simple that it needs no deep thought. For instance the "Gods Debris" concept in Scott Adams thought experiment fits the "One God" model but diverges very significantly from the conventional Judeo/Christian/Islamic models of a conscious controlling entity. This is just one of the many cosmological models that include a God or Supreme Creator theory. The god models presented by all the Abrahamic religions all lead to logical fallacies and dichotomies when analyzed using logic.
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Jesus Christ IS God

the definition of Emmanuel is "God with us"

hence going to and through Christ IS going to God

the Father came through flesh to show us that He wouldn't ask or expect anything of us that He wasn't also willing to do

Christ was the sacrifice that allowed all to come to redemption through repentance, including all souls who had lived in flesh and died prior to same

so yes, going to/through the Christ is what gives you your credentials with regard to both knowing and understanding these concepts

sorry you aren't happy with the determinations of the Divine

everybody's a critic that's for sure

lol

there are a multitude of ways to do many things in life but in this regard there is but one

one way you will be able to recognize the "fake" when he arrives, other than for the fact that he arrives first, is that he will be claiming to be all those different entities, Christ, Muhammad, Buddha, and etc. ad infinitum/ad nauseum, which will fit in nicely with the One World Order form of both government and religion which he will set his throne atop and which will be more readily accepted globally for obvious reasons, which is identical to the tactic of the Galactic Federation of Light and it's emissaries from what I have gleaned

(of course he will do so in Jerusalem where he ought not be, which in and of itself should and would be most telling if not for the "strong delusion" over many)
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In order to be GOD, there can be ONLY one... and this ONLY ONE no had any creator before Him.

So, there can be only ONE God, and the hyerarchy begins with him. He is the ONLY source of all what exist. ONLY source of all the rues, laws, matter and spirit

All on black and white: Or He is the ORIGIN of everything else or he is not.

If He is, the all follow HIS way, not YOUR way of thinking...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498256


It must be nice to be able to restrict your imagination to these simplistic terms, because it makes all life and philosophy so simple that it needs no deep thought. For instance the "Gods Debris" concept in Scott Adams thought experiment fits the "One God" model but diverges very significantly from the conventional Judeo/Christian/Islamic models of a conscious controlling entity. This is just one of the many cosmological models that include a God or Supreme Creator theory. The god models presented by all the Abrahamic religions all lead to logical fallacies and dichotomies when analyzed using logic.
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I like your brain. If I ever need a new one, can I clone yours?
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In order to be GOD, there can be ONLY one... and this ONLY ONE no had any creator before Him.

So, there can be only ONE God, and the hyerarchy begins with him. He is the ONLY source of all what exist. ONLY source of all the rues, laws, matter and spirit

All on black and white: Or He is the ORIGIN of everything else or he is not.

If He is, the all follow HIS way, not YOUR way of thinking...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1498256


It must be nice to be able to restrict your imagination to these simplistic terms, because it makes all life and philosophy so simple that it needs no deep thought. For instance the "Gods Debris" concept in Scott Adams thought experiment fits the "One God" model but diverges very significantly from the conventional Judeo/Christian/Islamic models of a conscious controlling entity. This is just one of the many cosmological models that include a God or Supreme Creator theory. The god models presented by all the Abrahamic religions all lead to logical fallacies and dichotomies when analyzed using logic.
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I like your brain. If I ever need a new one, can I clone yours?
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Why would I let you? You insulted me before, telling me I did not have an opinion worth listening to.
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all religion beliefs are assumptions and opinions
no need to debate them (!)
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all religion beliefs are assumptions and opinions
no need to debate them (!)
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This is true, but the religiously deluded keep stuffing their illusions in other peoples faces, insisting that their brand of delusion does actually matter. Also humans like to tease themselves with ideas, and not one person can think them all up, so by the process of debate, one is exposed to ideas they have not yet considered. In fact the OP of this thread has exposed me to an idea that I would like to explore further.
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Jesus is myth. Time to move on.
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How sweet. Now, tell me that you are a Christian and then tell me what happens to Buddhists, Muslims, Jews and Hindus when they die. And don't cop out by saying it's not up to you to say, or defer to your bibble. Tell me what you would say to someone on the phone who believes exactly as you do if this question came up. Let's see how genuine you are.
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Yep, they're all going to hell.
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Jesus is myth. Time to move on.
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How sweet. Now, tell me that you are a Christian and then tell me what happens to Buddhists, Muslims, Jews and Hindus when they die. And don't cop out by saying it's not up to you to say, or defer to your bibble. Tell me what you would say to someone on the phone who believes exactly as you do if this question came up. Let's see how genuine you are.
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Yep, they're all going to hell.
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Had to log in there. Yep, all going to Hell. Is that clear enough for ya?
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Re: THE REDUCTIVE ARROGANCE OF CHRISTIANITY
In order to be GOD, there can be ONLY one... and this ONLY ONE no had any creator before Him.

So, there can be only ONE God, and the hyerarchy begins with him. He is the ONLY source of all what exist. ONLY source of all the rues, laws, matter and spirit

All on black and white: Or He is the ORIGIN of everything else or he is not.

If He is, the all follow HIS way, not YOUR way of thinking...
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It must be nice to be able to restrict your imagination to these simplistic terms, because it makes all life and philosophy so simple that it needs no deep thought. For instance the "Gods Debris" concept in Scott Adams thought experiment fits the "One God" model but diverges very significantly from the conventional Judeo/Christian/Islamic models of a conscious controlling entity. This is just one of the many cosmological models that include a God or Supreme Creator theory. The god models presented by all the Abrahamic religions all lead to logical fallacies and dichotomies when analyzed using logic.
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I like your brain. If I ever need a new one, can I clone yours?
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Why would I let you? You insulted me before, telling me I did not have an opinion worth listening to.
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Well you tweaked it and it works now.
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Re: THE REDUCTIVE ARROGANCE OF CHRISTIANITY
You talk about ARROGANCE. "YOU HAVEN'T THE HORESES". WOW. How I wish I was all that is you. Christians seem arrogant to you because we know for sure our future. You and non Christians have no idea what you eternity holds. We aren't better than anyone, we're just better off.
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lolatu
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Re: THE REDUCTIVE ARROGANCE OF CHRISTIANITY
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It must be nice to be able to restrict your imagination to these simplistic terms, because it makes all life and philosophy so simple that it needs no deep thought. For instance the "Gods Debris" concept in Scott Adams thought experiment fits the "One God" model but diverges very significantly from the conventional Judeo/Christian/Islamic models of a conscious controlling entity. This is just one of the many cosmological models that include a God or Supreme Creator theory. The god models presented by all the Abrahamic religions all lead to logical fallacies and dichotomies when analyzed using logic.
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I like your brain. If I ever need a new one, can I clone yours?
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Why would I let you? You insulted me before, telling me I did not have an opinion worth listening to.
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Well you tweaked it and it works now.
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It was working before. Yours was disengaged and you made improper assumptions about what I was saying.
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Re: THE REDUCTIVE ARROGANCE OF CHRISTIANITY
You talk about ARROGANCE. "YOU HAVEN'T THE HORESES". WOW. How I wish I was all that is you. Christians seem arrogant to you because we know for sure our future. You and non Christians have no idea what you eternity holds. We aren't better than anyone, we're just better off.
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lolatu
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