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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23356301 United States 09/22/2012 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these films Lisa describe earths astral realms. they are "nice" but not heaven and NOT Paradise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301 You live there between lives as you evolve on earth. There are many levels according to where one has come. These are Thought created realms, and as such are not real. Full of really ignorant people still. This isi where you make your circles as you grow here and most of you are not even yet close to the 5d level there. There is a library yes, halls of records yes, but its not heaven. Heaven is real WORLDs that are custom built, also have many levels. Paradise is the center of the whole creation and is what all things come from basically, including all the energies that maintain the whole creation, which is far bigger than most know. The word "heaven" comes from Havona, and Havona is the central Universe that surrounds the paradise isle, and Havona is a perfect creation of 1 billions worlds. You do at some point want to graduate from earth and attain the lower heavens, the mansion worlds and merge with the father within when you reach 6d+ consciousness. Eternal life is for trillions of years and you don't part with Jesus during them. Your cosmic life in fact begins when you reach the system worlds which I am not explaining right now. The stair case concept to heaven is "real", for you work over a spiral of journeys until you reach the top. I am from the top, I have done that and I know of what I speak. Many believe this, but I say your assumption is false. Why? There's many cases now of people coming across information that was impossible for them to know about. After the NDE, these people are able to verify the information down to the exact details. Meaning This NDE experience, wasn't merely imagined, or a construct of the subconscious, as most mistakenly assume. As I said, I have completed that trip and I know of what I speak. In fact we are coming on the final judgement sorting of this world before the new age can begin and the astral realms will be closed and all souls moved to where it is appropriate for them to go. THIS IS FACT. Have you ever pondered what you will do over eternal life? I am on assignment by incarnation to this world and its so hard to get truth here, and get people to take the boxes of their heads. Most have no concept of what to do during their eternal life. NONE. Ones here tend to want to play in the heaven of christian and islamic beliefs and it simply is not this way. some want to give up work and live in bliss. It is not that way. I am on a work assignment here for the Ancients of Days of Orvonton. Its so hard to get people t open their imagination, and Jesus correctly taught that unless you become like a child, full of imagination about life, you cannot yet enter the kingdom of heaven. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9303167 United States 09/22/2012 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these films Lisa describe earths astral realms. they are "nice" but not heaven and NOT Paradise. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301 You live there between lives as you evolve on earth. There are many levels according to where one has come. These are Thought created realms, and as such are not real. Full of really ignorant people still. This isi where you make your circles as you grow here and most of you are not even yet close to the 5d level there. There is a library yes, halls of records yes, but its not heaven. Heaven is real WORLDs that are custom built, also have many levels. Paradise is the center of the whole creation and is what all things come from basically, including all the energies that maintain the whole creation, which is far bigger than most know. The word "heaven" comes from Havona, and Havona is the central Universe that surrounds the paradise isle, and Havona is a perfect creation of 1 billions worlds. You do at some point want to graduate from earth and attain the lower heavens, the mansion worlds and merge with the father within when you reach 6d+ consciousness. Eternal life is for trillions of years and you don't part with Jesus during them. Your cosmic life in fact begins when you reach the system worlds which I am not explaining right now. The stair case concept to heaven is "real", for you work over a spiral of journeys until you reach the top. I am from the top, I have done that and I know of what I speak. Many believe this, but I say your assumption is false. Why? There's many cases now of people coming across information that was impossible for them to know about. After the NDE, these people are able to verify the information down to the exact details. Meaning This NDE experience, wasn't merely imagined, or a construct of the subconscious, as most mistakenly assume. As I said, I have completed that trip and I know of what I speak. In fact we are coming on the final judgement sorting of this world before the new age can begin and the astral realms will be closed and all souls moved to where it is appropriate for them to go. THIS IS FACT. Have you ever pondered what you will do over eternal life? I am on assignment by incarnation to this world and its so hard to get truth here, and get people to take the boxes of their heads. Most have no concept of what to do during their eternal life. NONE. Ones here tend to want to play in the heaven of christian and islamic beliefs and it simply is not this way. some want to give up work and live in bliss. It is not that way. I am on a work assignment here for the Ancients of Days of Orvonton. Its so hard to get people t open their imagination, and Jesus correctly taught that unless you become like a child, full of imagination about life, you cannot yet enter the kingdom of heaven. And as I stated, people coming across information, that was impossible for them to know about, shows that this realm, wasn't merely imagined, as you assume. Now, you state 'THIS IS FACT' now what evidence do you actually have, besides merely making claims, not backed with any evidence? I can back up what I'm saying with evidence. |
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WishinForTheMission User ID: 20803614 United States 09/22/2012 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (is it ok just to call you Lisa?) heheee Just wanted to know if you have listened to the H. Pittman NDE yet? I have a few others too, and will post them if they have not already been posted here. I will have to view ALL of the pages to find out, but wanted to say hello before reading it all. Thanks Lisa for speading the word of Heaven, and of the "Good News"! God Bless you! ~~Much Peace, Love, and Light~~Always Concerning life and death: I embrace both equally! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9303167 United States 09/22/2012 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | these people who make these films are ASTRAL VIEWING. This is NOT heaven. This is your rest over between lives. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301 Also you state here "These are Thought created realms, and as such are not real." But now you state they are astral viewing. So, you now changed your belief system? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19199109 United States 09/22/2012 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I'm a surgical nurse at a hospital in Phoenix, Arizona. We have lots of near-death cases there, and almost all of them are the negative kind. You know what I mean --people who end up in HELL!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9303167 (from the Spring '92 Journal of Near-Death Studies Vol.10, No.3) Hell is a real place that a person will find themselves in if they reject Jesus. Sad, but true. Hmm... So whats the in between? There is none. Choices are made here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19199109 United States 09/22/2012 05:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad you enjoyed it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9303167 Something else that really caught my attention is that he speaks of a valley of dinosaurs in heaven. Now, if you watch Lisa's video, part 3, you hear quotes from Kat Kerr. In Kat's book, she also confirms that there's a valley of dinosaurs. I thought it was so beautiful how one of the quotes in Lisa's video mentioned the children playing with a huge lion that was frolicking with them. Absolutely amazing!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9787765 United States 09/22/2012 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For every one of those quotes I can quote ten NDEs that refutes what they say they saw. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1502050I dont think I have read about a single one what you describe. I'd ask you for links but I doubt the veracity of your responses. Even cross culturally there is a supernatural component but not any where atheism is affirmed Get outside of your Christian sites and look around...I am right. I have yet to meet a strong minded Christian. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19199109 United States 09/22/2012 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...I am on a work assignment here for the Ancients of Days of Orvonton. Its so hard to get people t open their imagination, and Jesus correctly taught that unless you become like a child, full of imagination about life, you cannot yet enter the kingdom of heaven... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301 Of course what Jesus taught is correct. Peoples interpretations may not be. Do you not believe that hell exists also? No need for a super long response. I get my doctrine from Jesus Christ. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9303167 United States 09/22/2012 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For every one of those quotes I can quote ten NDEs that refutes what they say they saw. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1502050I dont think I have read about a single one what you describe. I'd ask you for links but I doubt the veracity of your responses. Even cross culturally there is a supernatural component but not any where atheism is affirmed Get outside of your Christian sites and look around...I am right. I have yet to meet a strong minded Christian. Here's one, From the third video, in Lisa's post, it quotes a woman named Kat Kerr, who was taken out of her body and seen heaven. Now, in Kat's book, what else does she say? These are some of the things He [God] mentioned: the gems in the vest of the high priest, the gemstones He is dropping into meetings all over the world (because they represent His heart) So, what evidence is there of gems dropping into church? Here Appraisers, had stated due to quality and cut of the gems, no men could do this. There's other miracles as well, reported in the video. Also, appraisers stated this about the high quality of the diamonds that appeared. There's no diamonds like this that exist on Earth. Is this occurring at other churches? Yes, a documentary 'Finger of God' covers this, and other miraculous occurences. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9303167 United States 09/22/2012 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...I am on a work assignment here for the Ancients of Days of Orvonton. Its so hard to get people t open their imagination, and Jesus correctly taught that unless you become like a child, full of imagination about life, you cannot yet enter the kingdom of heaven... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23356301 Of course what Jesus taught is correct. Peoples interpretations may not be. Do you not believe that hell exists also? No need for a super long response. I get my doctrine from Jesus Christ. Since he mentioned 'Orvonton', his beliefs are probably based, and heavily influenced by the Urantia book. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9303167 United States 09/22/2012 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad you enjoyed it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9303167 Something else that really caught my attention is that he speaks of a valley of dinosaurs in heaven. Now, if you watch Lisa's video, part 3, you hear quotes from Kat Kerr. In Kat's book, she also confirms that there's a valley of dinosaurs. I thought it was so beautiful how one of the quotes in Lisa's video mentioned the children playing with a huge lion that was frolicking with them. Absolutely amazing!!! Agreed, I get speechless just thinking about this. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States 09/22/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad you enjoyed it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9303167 Something else that really caught my attention is that he speaks of a valley of dinosaurs in heaven. Now, if you watch Lisa's video, part 3, you hear quotes from Kat Kerr. In Kat's book, she also confirms that there's a valley of dinosaurs. I thought it was so beautiful how one of the quotes in Lisa's video mentioned the children playing with a huge lion that was frolicking with them. Absolutely amazing!!! Her books were amazing, I read both of them several times! Awesome stuff! Here is one of the books online for free in case anyone wants to read it. [link to 99.198.110.36] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States 09/22/2012 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank YOU Lisa, Lisa Quoting: WishinForTheMission (is it ok just to call you Lisa?) heheee Just wanted to know if you have listened to the H. Pittman NDE yet? I have a few others too, and will post them if they have not already been posted here. I will have to view ALL of the pages to find out, but wanted to say hello before reading it all. Thanks Lisa for speading the word of Heaven, and of the "Good News"! God Bless you! Oh yea, I have Pitman's book Placebo where he goes into detail about everything. Very sobering stuff. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States 09/22/2012 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640I dont think I have read about a single one what you describe. I'd ask you for links but I doubt the veracity of your responses. Even cross culturally there is a supernatural component but not any where atheism is affirmed Get outside of your Christian sites and look around...I am right. I have yet to meet a strong minded Christian. Here's one, From the third video, in Lisa's post, it quotes a woman named Kat Kerr, who was taken out of her body and seen heaven. Now, in Kat's book, what else does she say? These are some of the things He [God] mentioned: the gems in the vest of the high priest, the gemstones He is dropping into meetings all over the world (because they represent His heart) So, what evidence is there of gems dropping into church? Here Appraisers, had stated due to quality and cut of the gems, no men could do this. There's other miracles as well, reported in the video. Also, appraisers stated this about the high quality of the diamonds that appeared. There's no diamonds like this that exist on Earth. Is this occurring at other churches? Yes, a documentary 'Finger of God' covers this, and other miraculous occurences. Check this out from last year Thread: Finger of God Sad, but the youtube video has been removed. What a pity, it was excellent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9303167 United States 09/22/2012 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you may go to Hell or Heaven, but upon arrival you'll find there's only Christians there. (because you choose to attract that) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15390403 If this is the case, one must also ask, how are babies, some aborted, who died on Earth, also in this heaven with Christians? Surely the babies didn't intend, or use any of the laws of attractions, as explained by many new agers, to consciously choose this particular heaven with Christians. Having studied many types of NDE's, those shared by both Christians and non-Christians, I don't recall a single case of a heaven, that's populated by all Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9303167 United States 09/22/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1502050 Get outside of your Christian sites and look around...I am right. I have yet to meet a strong minded Christian. Here's one, From the third video, in Lisa's post, it quotes a woman named Kat Kerr, who was taken out of her body and seen heaven. Now, in Kat's book, what else does she say? These are some of the things He [God] mentioned: the gems in the vest of the high priest, the gemstones He is dropping into meetings all over the world (because they represent His heart) So, what evidence is there of gems dropping into church? Here Appraisers, had stated due to quality and cut of the gems, no men could do this. There's other miracles as well, reported in the video. Also, appraisers stated this about the high quality of the diamonds that appeared. There's no diamonds like this that exist on Earth. Is this occurring at other churches? Yes, a documentary 'Finger of God' covers this, and other miraculous occurences. Check this out from last year Thread: Finger of God Sad, but the youtube video has been removed. What a pity, it was excellent. Very nice, didn't know about this thread! Btw, if anyone decides to order the doc, I strongly recommend the deluxe edition, it's loaded with so much more info and video footage. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States 09/22/2012 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you may go to Hell or Heaven, but upon arrival you'll find there's only Christians there. (because you choose to attract that) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15390403 If this is the case, one must also ask, how are babies, some aborted, who died on Earth, also in this heaven with Christians? Yes, their hearts are pure. They have not made a choice to deny God. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States 09/22/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9787765 show a video of other experiences besides people going to hell and not out body experiences Here's one, From the third video, in Lisa's post, it quotes a woman named Kat Kerr, who was taken out of her body and seen heaven. Now, in Kat's book, what else does she say? These are some of the things He [God] mentioned: the gems in the vest of the high priest, the gemstones He is dropping into meetings all over the world (because they represent His heart) So, what evidence is there of gems dropping into church? Here Appraisers, had stated due to quality and cut of the gems, no men could do this. There's other miracles as well, reported in the video. Also, appraisers stated this about the high quality of the diamonds that appeared. There's no diamonds like this that exist on Earth. Is this occurring at other churches? Yes, a documentary 'Finger of God' covers this, and other miraculous occurences. Check this out from last year Thread: Finger of God Sad, but the youtube video has been removed. What a pity, it was excellent. Very nice, didn't know about this thread! Btw, if anyone decides to order the doc, I strongly recommend the deluxe edition, it's loaded with so much more info and video footage. Yea, but I'm disappointed it's not available to watch on youtube anymore. Receive free, give free. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9303167 United States 09/22/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you may go to Hell or Heaven, but upon arrival you'll find there's only Christians there. (because you choose to attract that) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15390403 If this is the case, one must also ask, how are babies, some aborted, who died on Earth, also in this heaven with Christians? Yes, their hearts are pure. They have not made a choice to deny God. Yes very good point. What I wanted to bring up, is that we don't get to heaven, merely by what we attract, as suggested by the other poster. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States 09/22/2012 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you may go to Hell or Heaven, but upon arrival you'll find there's only Christians there. (because you choose to attract that) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15390403 If this is the case, one must also ask, how are babies, some aborted, who died on Earth, also in this heaven with Christians? Yes, their hearts are pure. They have not made a choice to deny God. Yes very good point. What I wanted to bring up, is that we don't get to heaven, merely by what we attract, as suggested by the other poster. Yea, sorry......I wasn't following the conversation very well.....LOL!!!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9303167 United States 09/22/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9303167 If this is the case, one must also ask, how are babies, some aborted, who died on Earth, also in this heaven with Christians? Yes, their hearts are pure. They have not made a choice to deny God. Yes very good point. What I wanted to bring up, is that we don't get to heaven, merely by what we attract, as suggested by the other poster. Yea, sorry......I wasn't following the conversation very well.....LOL!!!!! I'm actually glad you brought that up. It gave a nice clarification :) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States 09/22/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes very good point. What I wanted to bring up, is that we don't get to heaven, merely by what we attract, as suggested by the other poster. Yea, sorry......I wasn't following the conversation very well.....LOL!!!!! I'm actually glad you brought that up. It gave a nice clarification :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20793559 United States 09/22/2012 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I'm a surgical nurse at a hospital in Phoenix, Arizona. We have lots of near-death cases there, and almost all of them are the negative kind. You know what I mean --people who end up in HELL!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9303167 (from the Spring '92 Journal of Near-Death Studies Vol.10, No.3) Hell is a real place that a person will find themselves in if they reject Jesus. Sad, but true. Hmm... So whats the in between? There is none. Choices are made here. I see. Let me just shuffle through my 4500 choices. Ill let u know what i follow, but hey give me some time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24234066 United States 09/22/2012 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Lisa*Lisa Hell is a real place that a person will find themselves in if they reject Jesus. Sad, but true. Hmm... So whats the in between? There is none. Choices are made here. I see. Let me just shuffle through my 4500 choices. Ill let u know what i follow, but hey give me some time. "I'm a surgical nurse at a hospital in Phoenix, Arizona. We have lots of near-death cases there, and almost all of them are the negative kind. You know what I mean --people who end up in HELL!" WoW... that is scary!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23356301 United States 09/22/2012 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I'm a surgical nurse at a hospital in Phoenix, Arizona. We have lots of near-death cases there, and almost all of them are the negative kind. You know what I mean --people who end up in HELL!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9303167 (from the Spring '92 Journal of Near-Death Studies Vol.10, No.3) Hell is a real place that a person will find themselves in if they reject Jesus. Sad, but true. HELL IS NOT A REAL PLACE AND JESUS DID NOT TEACH THAT AND NO GOD HAS CREATED ANY SUCH PLACE. Those that reject eternal life are simply uncreated Lisa. Has nothing to do with Jesus. And most people on this world never even hear the hame Jesus to reject "him" in the first place. What is rejected is the eternal journey, NOT "Jesus" Jesus is not even his "name" for God's sake. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1106916 United States 09/22/2012 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I'm a surgical nurse at a hospital in Phoenix, Arizona. We have lots of near-death cases there, and almost all of them are the negative kind. You know what I mean --people who end up in HELL!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9303167 (from the Spring '92 Journal of Near-Death Studies Vol.10, No.3) Hell is a real place that a person will find themselves in if they reject Jesus. Sad, but true. HELL IS NOT A REAL PLACE AND JESUS DID NOT TEACH THAT AND NO GOD HAS CREATED ANY SUCH PLACE. Those that reject eternal life are simply uncreated Lisa. Has nothing to do with Jesus. And most people on this world never even hear the hame Jesus to reject "him" in the first place. What is rejected is the eternal journey, NOT "Jesus" Jesus is not even his "name" for God's sake. Is that you Candace? |