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HilosPP (OP) User ID: 1514403 United States 08/22/2011 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how man once forgot God loves those who helps others and started to believe He loves those who help themselves. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
HilosPP (OP) User ID: 1514403 United States 08/22/2011 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how man once forgot God loves those who helps others and started to believe He loves those who help themselves. Quoting: HilosPP Was nearly their downfall had The Cross Christ Jesus carried had fallen like Lucifer The Morning Star. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
Heretic_333 User ID: 577520 United States 08/22/2011 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what happens to a clock in a black hole? so was there time before the big bang? If I told you everything I am about to say is a lie. Is it truth or a lie? I built the wrench necessary to bolt the 3 stage capping process on the BP oil spill. Tattered banners, and bloody flags... The wind of Odin sweeps it all. |
HilosPP (OP) User ID: 1514403 United States 08/22/2011 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Circular Logic You cannot prove that God exists; therefore, your proof is not valid. Shot down on step one. I can prove eternal life doesn't exist in this world or do you lay claim to the Secret of Life? The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
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HilosPP (OP) User ID: 1514403 United States 08/22/2011 02:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God just started timing His jumps using the rthym of planets as a rope and marking their alignment in a form of measurement later broke down into a thing called time. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1509647 Australia 08/22/2011 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assumption (1): God exists. Assumption (1a): God is all-knowing. Assumption (1b): God is all-powerful. Assumption (1c): God is perfectly loving. Assumption (1d): Any being that did not possess all three of the above properties would not be God. Premise (2): Evil exists. Premise (3): An all-knowing being would be aware of the existence of evil. Premise (4): An all-powerful being would be able to eliminate evil. Premise (5): A perfectly loving being would desire to eliminate evil. Conclusion (6): Evil does not exist. (from (1),(3),(4),(5)) Contradiction: But evil does exist. (from (2)) Conclusion (7): There is no being that is all-knowing, all-powerful, and perfectly loving. (from (2),(3),(4),(5)) Conclusion (8): God does not exist. (from (7),(1d)) |
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MMMkay_Ultra User ID: 1507684 United States 08/22/2011 05:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we exist, then GOD exists. Not a difficult idea to embrace. What is difficult.... removing one's preconceived archetype of what, or who, GOD is. It is no wonder we as a species can't evolve spiritually to embrace the power of the multiverse. The sooner man-un-kind wakes up and assimilates the true grace of their being, only then will the epiphany of man come. Man will realize that we are all gods, that our corporeal shells are a mere physical manifestation of our higher selves. Only then will we respect each other as gods. "If the words 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' don't include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn't worth the hemp it was written on." - Terence McKenna |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1513014 Canada 08/22/2011 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assumption (1): God exists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509647 Assumption (1a): God is all-knowing. Assumption (1b): God is all-powerful. Assumption (1c): God is perfectly loving. Assumption (1d): Any being that did not possess all three of the above properties would not be God. Premise (2): Evil exists. Premise (3): An all-knowing being would be aware of the existence of evil. Premise (4): An all-powerful being would be able to eliminate evil. Premise (5): A perfectly loving being would desire to eliminate evil. Conclusion (6): Evil does not exist. (from (1),(3),(4),(5)) Contradiction: But evil does exist. (from (2)) Conclusion (7): There is no being that is all-knowing, all-powerful, and perfectly loving. (from (2),(3),(4),(5)) Conclusion (8): God does not exist. (from (7),(1d)) Does evil exist, or do we simply define evil as something which is repugnant to us? Is the bear who makes a russian girl his lunch, an evil bear? If I made you my lunch, am I evil or am I simply a hungry "bear"? |
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HilosPP (OP) User ID: 1486547 United States 08/22/2011 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Assumption (1): God exists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509647 Assumption (1a): God is all-knowing. Assumption (1b): God is all-powerful. Assumption (1c): God is perfectly loving. Assumption (1d): Any being that did not possess all three of the above properties would not be God. Premise (2): Evil exists. Premise (3): An all-knowing being would be aware of the existence of evil. Premise (4): An all-powerful being would be able to eliminate evil. Premise (5): A perfectly loving being would desire to eliminate evil. Conclusion (6): Evil does not exist. (from (1),(3),(4),(5)) Contradiction: But evil does exist. (from (2)) Conclusion (7): There is no being that is all-knowing, all-powerful, and perfectly loving. (from (2),(3),(4),(5)) Conclusion (8): God does not exist. (from (7),(1d)) Does evil exist, or do we simply define evil as something which is repugnant to us? Is the bear who makes a russian girl his lunch, an evil bear? If I made you my lunch, am I evil or am I simply a hungry "bear"? I've read Marquis De Sade as well, if a man is thirsty does he not stop to drink from a fountain, if a woman ignites my thirst of lust and passion so to shall I not drink in regards to my own will in the absence of hers? To encroach upon another's free will is the very root of all Evil and the birth of Tryrannical Enslavement. And if I catch a bear helping itself to my meal I will Kill it, Eat it and wear its skin to keep me warm on cold nights. Than surly it is a contest in the Power of Will, one against anothers in the conquest to define One Absolute Truth. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
HilosPP (OP) User ID: 1486547 United States 08/22/2011 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD = ETERNAL LIFE Quoting: HilosPP THEREFORE NO GOD = DEATH DEATH = NO LIFE THEREFORE NO GOD = NO LIFE (NO GOD = NO LIFE) MINUS NO GOD = LIFE MAN IS LIVING THEREFORE GOD IS I was hopping to come in here and see a rational physics explanation. (as I know they exist) Kind of disappointed.. So than what would One Being who claims to be Nature's God and Salvation have to do in order to give actual proof and not a bunch of scribbles on a piece of paper or The World Wide Web? The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
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HilosPP (OP) User ID: 1486547 United States 08/22/2011 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because no one can prove if He does or does not exist, people live and die, and no one can prove Eternal Life can exist niether. God is Associated with Goodness, Love, Heaven and Eternal Life without pain or suffering and the world is found wanting in both God and all the above. The world is consumed by wars and Illuminated with the darkness of this War's true intention. Yet the soul root of these wars are Religious in Nature and manifested through Government and Politics. All religions are an attempt to grasp a higher understanding of the unknown and claim to prove the knowing of who God is and who He favors. One thing is certain God is power, an attemp to establish some form of Heiarchy which encompasses Dominion over all the Earth. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
TheNihilistProphet User ID: 1512125 Spain 08/22/2011 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because no one can prove if He does or does not exist, people live and die, and no one can prove Eternal Life can exist niether. God is Associated with Goodness, Love, Heaven and Eternal Life without pain or suffering and the world is found wanting in both God and all the above. The world is consumed by wars and Illuminated with the darkness of this War's true intention. Yet the soul root of these wars are Religious in Nature and manifested through Government and Politics. All religions are an attempt to grasp a higher understanding of the unknown and claim to prove the knowing of who God is and who He favors. One thing is certain God is power, an attemp to establish some form of Heiarchy which encompasses Dominion over all the Earth. The Omniscient - the Omnipresent... do you really think He would have to choose any miserable mortal creature to do His Will? But anyway, the Eternal One has no need to do any kind of Will... |
simultaneous_final User ID: 1458700 United States 08/22/2011 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOD = ETERNAL LIFE Quoting: HilosPP THEREFORE NO GOD = DEATH DEATH = NO LIFE THEREFORE NO GOD = NO LIFE (NO GOD = NO LIFE) MINUS NO GOD = LIFE MAN IS LIVING THEREFORE GOD IS LOL! Uh...when you make up your own postulates such as "God = Eternal Life", you're sure to find whatever result you're looking for. here's an example: OP = Poorly Educated Person OR BETTER YET: God = Eternal Life = 7 legged Space Monkey = COMPLETE SPECULATION OP, I appreciate the effort but you might want to look into logical DEDUCTION before you try your hand at INDUCTION. Just a suggestion, friend. And Namio--do you just clap for anything? Do your due diligence next time, pal. Or else I've got some great property to sell you--OCEANFRONT right here in WV. You'll love it. Last Edited by simultaneous_final on 08/22/2011 12:24 PM A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum. |
HilosPP (OP) User ID: 1486547 United States 08/22/2011 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because no one can prove if He does or does not exist, people live and die, and no one can prove Eternal Life can exist niether. Check my previous post to see the consequences of this statement. Your "proof" fails at step one. It is still in variable form, both God and Eternal Life being a variable, in an agnostic stance. Assuming both to be the same because both can niether be proven or disproven and both remain neccesary to prove the other exists or does not exist. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
HilosPP (OP) User ID: 1486547 United States 08/22/2011 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: HilosPP Because no one can prove if He does or does not exist, people live and die, and no one can prove Eternal Life can exist niether. Check my previous post to see the consequences of this statement. Your "proof" fails at step one. It is still in variable form, both God and Eternal Life being a variable, in an agnostic stance. Assuming both to be the same because both can niether be proven or disproven and both remain neccesary to prove the other exists or does not exist. That is not how proofs are formed. You cannot make wild assumptions. Inductive proofs have what's known as an inductive step, but a base case must have been proven to make the inductive step. You have not done this. Your "proof" is not a proof to anyone except yourself or someone who is not versed in Logic. Than define the following and I will try again. God = Eternal Life = The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
TheNihilistProphet User ID: 1512125 Spain 08/22/2011 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Wonkish Check my previous post to see the consequences of this statement. Your "proof" fails at step one. It is still in variable form, both God and Eternal Life being a variable, in an agnostic stance. Assuming both to be the same because both can niether be proven or disproven and both remain neccesary to prove the other exists or does not exist. That is not how proofs are formed. You cannot make wild assumptions. Inductive proofs have what's known as an inductive step, but a base case must have been proven to make the inductive step. You have not done this. Your "proof" is not a proof to anyone except yourself or someone who is not versed in Logic. Than define the following and I will try again. God = Eternal Life = God= the One out of any kind of existence, the Nothingness Eternal Life= contradictio in terminis |