Vishnu's War Chariot

Do any of the texts say what colour horses pulled the chariots?

same as the horses/chariots that invaded egypt at the same time, the caucasian from the Black Sea area.

Were the horses white, and was it 4 of them to one chariot?

Last Edited by alexisj9 on 08/31/2011 09:55 AM

i don't see anyone man it's hard these day's.

People all over India look same or similar.Only people in southern state of tamil nadu and Srilanka are dark.But this does not mean that there were two races in India.This History of Aryans and Dravidians may not be correct.People talk of Aryan Invasion because few people are fair.If you look at caucasians they are very different from people of India.I dont
think they ever mixed with people of India.Todays population of India does not Include Aryans or Dravidians.There were few muslim Invasion but they have their own religion and culture.India is a very old civilisation.Gods vishnu,shiva and Brahma are part of our culture,they have not come from outside.

you heard of the caste system, right?





Rigvedic Aryan Invasion (1500 BC):
The First Aryan Invasion involved the annihilation of the Semito-Negroid (Sudra-Panian) Indus Valley civilization by the hordes of Indra , and the slaughter of 5 million of its inhabitants. The Indus irrigation system was shattered to permanently destroy agriculture in the region. Sudroid blacks were displaced from all of North India, the survivors retreating to the hill tracts of Bundelkhand-Gondwana.
Second Aryan Invasion (1400 BC):
Bharata launched the second Aryan invasion from Afghanistan, and conquered much of the upper Ganges valley, defeating the descendants of the first wave of invasions under Indra.
The Krishnaite (Third) Aryan Invasion (1200 BC):
Krishna launched the third Aryan invasion, invading Western India (Gujarat, Rajastan etc.) from Mathura in Aryavarta. He finally established his capital there, naming it Dwarka. He destroyed the surviving traces of the Indus Valley civilization, abducting and raping 16,000 women (low-caste "gopis") of the races he exterminated. Survivals of these acts are found in the much toned-down Krishna-gopi songs.


Indo-Aryan Migration into India, c. 1750 B.C. This map shows the general route taken by the Indo-Aryans who migrated into India beginning around 1750 B.C. They were nomadic warriors who came from the Plateau of Iran and moved through the Hindu Kush Mountains into the Indus Valley and beyond to the Ganges Valley. With them they brought bronze weapons, horses, and chariots.
Mahabharatan Aryan Invasion (900-800 BC):
The Fourth Aryan Invasion occurred in 2 parts: First, the Digvijay Aryan invasions that led to the subjugation of all of India to the Aryan yoke. The revolt by the non-Aryans and mixed races led to the terrible Mahabharatan War between the Aryan Pandavas on one side and the mixed race Kauravas and black aboriginals on the other. The Aryan victory enabled them to invade & settle in the Ganges valley and confirmed Aryan dominance. The genocides of this war permanently changed the racial composition of India. These conflicts were some of the most terrible recorded.
Fifth (Solar) Aryan Invasion (800 BC):
The Fifth Aryan invasion is named Solar, since the Aryans who invaded India during this epoch were of the Solar race (Suryavamsi), while the earlier Aryans were of Lunar race (Chandravamsi). Kashyap (ie. from the Caspian) is the progenitor of the Solar race of kings. From the Caspian they swept down into India, driving the preceding peoples before them. Ikshvaku established his chiefdom at Ayodhya, while his grandson Mithi conquered Mithila (named after him). Parasurama continued the 5th Aryan invasion, exterminating various aboriginal races.
Ramaite Aryan Invasion & Dravidian Holocaust (600 BC):
The 6th Aryan invasion of the deep South (Dravidia) by the armies of "Lord" Ram led to the fall of the Rakshasa (Dravidian) empire & the destruction of the splendid city of Ravana. The apartheid varna system was imposed, with those black Dravidian Sudras who accepted Aryan enslavement being relegated to the `Clean Sudra' caste , while those who fought the Aryans were relegated to the `Untouchable Sudra' castes ("panchama") of Dalits and Adivasis. The worship of the Aryan religion of Vaishnavism was introduced, and most Dravidians in Lanka exterminated.
Buddhist Aryan Invasion (260 BC):
This Seventh Aryan invasion was launched by Askoka, King of Aryan Magadha. His attack on Kolarian Kalinga led to the horrible Kalinga War, in which 200,000 black aboriginals were killed & countless more enslaved. Several wars with the aboriginal races were waged. The Aryanised religions of Jainism and Buddhism entered South India. Although these religions were liberal with Aryan castes, and Buddha was in fact a Mongoloid, these faiths kept the fundamental Aryan-Sudroid apartheid varna system. The Aryan Sinhalese Buddhists, invading from East India, meanwhile, exterminated the entire population of native black Dravidoids. Staunch Buddhist fanatics, they destroyed scores of Shaiva shrines, erecting Buddhist temples on the ruins and eventually eradicating Shaivism from Lanka.
Eighth Aryan Invasion (100 BC):
The Eighth Aryan Invasion occurred under the Maharashtrian Satavahanas. They invaded Dravidia, sacking several cities and annexing Dravidian lands. This was the first of the Maharasthrian Aryan Invasions.
Nineth (Guptan) Aryan Invasion (250 AD):
Samudra Gupta of the Gupta dynasty in Aryavarta invaded south India and conquered several non-Aryan nations. The famous invasion of Daskhinapatha led to the subjugation of many native Indian races, incl. Tamil Nadu. This led to a hardening of the varna system even in remote areas. Several wars with the Scythians were also waged.
Rajput (Scythic) Aryan Invasion (300 AD - 1400 AD):
The Rajputs are descendants of Scyths, Greeks, Kushans, Romans, etc. who entered India mostly after the fall of Guptan Koshala. Finding Aryavarta (Braj-Koshala) dominated by Aryans, they entered Rajastan and over several centuries, annihilated the Black Abroginal population of Bhils & Minas.
Eleventh Aryan Invasion (600 - 1000 AD):
This occurred under the Maharashtrian Chalukyas, and is also known as the Second Maharasthrian Aryan Invasion. During these wars, Pulkesin II (610 - 642) conquered several Dravidian peoples, and invaded Tamil Nadu. Finally, after severe persecution of Dravidians, a wave of revolt by the Dravidian Shaivite Lingayats destroyed Aryan Chalukya rule.
Vijayanagaran Aryan Invasion (1336-1646):
The semi-Aryanized Andhras embarked on one of the most systematic subjugations of the Dravidian races on record. The entire epoch of the dark Vijayanagar empire was one of conquest, oppression, and mass murder of Dravidians. In the Apartheid Andhrite Vijayanagar varna system, a semi-Aryan Mulatto Nair warrior would shoot a Dravidian Sudra Negro at sight.
Oriya Aryan Invasion (1450-60 AD):
Kapilendradeva of Indo-Aryan Orissa invaded the Dravidian nations in the 1450s-60s, conquering the Reddi kingdom of Vengi and pillaging his way deep into Tamil Nadu.

Sounds more plusable to me, but still does he ride a chariot and are there 4 white horses pulling it?

Just trying to find the character from a dream I had.

It sounds like to me you are describing the chariot from Bhagavad-gita, where Krishna (God) is the chariot driver for his dear friend Arjuna in the Battle of Kurukshetra in India.

The Battlefield of Kurukshetra still exists today as a holy pilgrimage.

[link to inannareturns.com]

Does that look like the chariot you are talking about?

Last Edited by SaveTheLivingEntities on 08/31/2011 10:42 AM

If you want real knowledge about 5,000 years ago in India and who the Aryans are, you should read the Bhagavad-gita [link to vedabase.net] , the Srimad Bhagavatam [link to vedabase.net] , and the Mahabharata which are the authoritative literatures on historical India.

Would the second dream here fit with anything?

I've had two weird dreams recently, the first was day before Giorgia quake, sorry if that's spelt wrong.

I drempt of a very bad earthquake with lots of damage. Don't know where though and don't think it was the Giorgia one as the damage was quite minimal there.

The day after a very strange dream. Don't remember it very well though.

Me and some other people that I didn't know where talking about an earthquake. Then the conversation turn to something with writing on it, I remember that all religions are involved. Then we were discusing what to do about something, some were saying we should do it now, others were saying wait till we know something or other. Then somebody says "look" pointing to my left "I don't think there's any time to wait" So I look and this is the strangest part.

That patch of sky is all lit up in a golden looking light, with a kind of black or dark line in the middle. Something came out of it. As it got closer you could see it was a person on a chariot being pulled by four pure white horses. The person said afterwards meet back here for, then came out with some foods but can't remember what. Sounded sort of like a feast sort of stuff. That was it. I could not tell if the person was male or female but they did have long hair. I did not recognize the place where the dream was set.

Sorry I know that this sounds very sketchy but like I said can't remember some I think major bits.

Yes, written in SANSKIT, which stems from an EARLIER Aryan language.

Horses and chariots were not native to India, but native to the invading Aruyans.

Take your own advice and do some reading

[link to www.oration.com]

Long article PDF about the Aryan Invasions.

Last Edited by DonHeau on 08/31/2011 10:51 AM

your opinions and thought are not the same as an education

SANSKRIT itself came INTO India

get over your racism towards light skin and blue eyes, thanks

Dreams are important because they can leave an impression on your waking mind, as you can see already.


As a modern day Gaudiya-vaishnava I can tell you that every Sunday we get together and have a feast at the temples of the lord. We also have information about Sri Krishna being the charioteer for Arjuna.

The names of the 4 white horses of Krishna are Shaibya, Sugreeva, Meghapushpa and Balaahaka.

Did you see the image I posted above with the picture?

Sanskrit does not stem from an earlier Aryan language. According to who?

In the Vedas, Sanskrit is over 155 trillion years old. TRILLION YEARS OLD.

The Bhagavad-gita and the Shrimad-Bhagavatam do not accept or go along with your theory of Aryan invasion.

As a matter of fact, Aryan in Sanskrit means "One who is advanced in Civilization". The Sanskrit term Aryan refers to even us Westerners. We are Aryans, like the Indians.

You can differentiate Aryans from tribal aborigines.

OP, your excellent thread is getting a little hijacked.

Yep, it's not 100% the same, there was only one person on the chariot and they looked different but it's possible as peoples interpretations in pictures can differ.

Oops sorry my fault, just trying to understand something.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Indo-European" is a 'politically-correct' equivalent of "Aryan"

Vedic Sanskrit is an old Indo-Aryan language. It is an archaic form of Sanskrit, an early descendant of Proto-Indo-Iranian. It is closely related to Avestan, the oldest preserved Iranian language. Vedic Sanskrit is the oldest attested language of the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European family.

You are talking to yourself. I wasn't talking to you.

It's not an excellent thread and it does not use any of the Vedic literatures known as Shruti in Sanskrit, which means divine origin.

Your main evidence against the Aryan and Vedic literatures is loosely quoted and not referenced by authoritative literatures.


Watch the following videos to understand where the Aryan Invasion Theory came from.








This is called research and empricism. It's not speculation and cheating.

Even before Ramayana I think Kings during that time Imported
Horses from Arab countries or western countries.Even in the history of Vijayanagara they imported Horses from arab countries or western countries.

you think?

archeology trumps opinion

As was the case in egypt at the same time period, horses and chariots invaded.

How about SANSKRIT? Why so many words in common with German, Latin, farsi, etc? Because it stems from ARYAN

only your racism towards blue eyes and light skin prevents you from seeing reality

VEDIC is written in SANSKRIT, which is an indo-european.iranian language that anyone with a college diploma knows ENTERED India.

your racism can not match my education in this subject, my apologies to you

OP did you even watch the videos I posted?


The reason so many words in common with German, Latin, Farsi etc is because Sanskrit is the root of all languages. It states that IN THE VEDAS.

Sanskrit was the first language, used to pass down the knowledge of the Vedas from Lord Brahma over 155 TRILLION YEARS AGO. This is not a false calculation.


Why dont you address the issues that are brought up in the video before you continue on trying to deprive India of its natural heritage?

the Swastika also appears GLOBALLY BEFORE it does in India

you will lose this debate my friend ;)

here are swastikas in the sun worshipping land of Puma Punku that predate your wildest wet dreams my friend ;)