To the PRODIGAL SONS of the ILLUMINATI..........AWAKENED ..

Same concept, different path. If we link them for the uninitated, they start grasping definitions are more fluid. Cuts down on their cognitive dissonance.

Well...yeah...you should do better...you know it...

Doesn't matter...they are going to get me one way or another...

Silverchair! Indeed fat boy, just wait until tomorrow.

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sorry about that, its a late night for me :P

I not referring to you, I was referring to women in plural.

Yes, will Melchizedek upheld the laws of Noah...
Abraham, his sons Ishmael and Isaac,their sons as well
The 12 tribes of Israel etc....

Things did NOT change for the children of Abraham until Moses of the Exodus gave the new tablets from Mt. Sinai..

Think about it..


.......

I think your timeline may be off, if the Bible timeline is to be believed.

But I get what you are saying about Moses, I think.

I was referring to how people gain honor these days from the more people they have slept with.

BINGO!!!!!

???

It was Abraham and Melchizedek...They all followed the Noahide Laws..
Then 430 years later after Abraham and his family all went to Egypt, THEN it was Moses and the 12 tribes of Israel...that followed the laws of Moses..

Well someone was messing with me. Did you see the video I was trying to change? That is a feaky pic on there...

Basically, the descendants of Israel..who come from Israel's original 12 tribes...learned to follow the laws of moses in the book of Exodus of the Torah....before that happened, they followed the Noahide Laws preached by Noah and continued down through Melchizedek...

Does that make better since??

Hey Apollo if you get a minute or two check this out please.

Thread: GOD DID NOT CREATE EVERYTHING, HE SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE UNIVERSE!!!!!

Ah sorry. Gotchya.

They only build up negative karma and will have to rectify it, Might take lifetimes.

Unless their Sin have been forgiven. I agree that the term Virgin should be returned to a Spiritual Meaning and I don't think fornication a sin, premarital sex, but frivolous and polygamous relations of a sexual nature are the source of much of this Earth's suffering. Sexually defiling animals, children and STD's find their roots in such practices.

Can you break this down further? Because as of right now, I'm confused.

There are a lot of things that contribute to Earth's suffering, but to say sexual nature is the main source, is incorrect. I would mention greed, corruption, extreme consumption, destruction of Earth's resources, lack of a spiritual connection to nature as higher items on the list.

You mention polygamous relations of a sexual nature. How about polygamous relations in a loving and responsible environment?

I can and will agree with you on STDs as a result of frivolous sexual encounters. But bestiality and pedophilia? What does those acts have to do with frivolous sexual encounters? People who practice such disgusting acts, is a whole other ball game. You're saying that these acts find their root in polygamous and frivolous sexual encounters? That doesn't make any sense. Those who have sex with animals and children are dealing with something much more complex and darker, then a guy or girl who has multiple sex partners. Those sick people intentionally abuse and destroy their victims for their own twisted sexual desires. I'm not even sure how you could make such a connection. In fact it's an insult to even make such comparison. The only the connection I could see, is if someone was abused as a child, when that child grows up, they become promiscuous. However, that isn't the same for all sexual abused victims, some abstained from sex all together. And other victims grow up to become abusers themselves. Even so, that still doesn't explain where bestiality comes into play.

Could you expand on what you mean? You have people who have all types of abnormal and destructive kinks, but not all were abused. So how do you group those individuals?

Oh crap, I forgot to turn on my mind reader. Thanks for focusing on one sentence of my reply and ignoring the rest. Much appreciated.

Please go find some toys to play with. Grown ups are talking.

I was stating that instant sexual gratification, those like the ones I stated earlier, is a slippery slope which leads to sexual deviants. When a man and woman cross over from only laying with one Mate it is only a matter of time that the rest of Sexual acts of a Devious manner are Manifested. When sex crosses over from being an act of love, to something of a purely physical nature. What is child molestation and inter-species erotica if not a form of purely instant sexual gratification in a completely physical manner, if it has anything to do with the spirit world it is of a Daemonic Nature.

In a healthy society, deviance and fetish aren't issues. Why? Because natural sexual expression in proper channels isn't considered "sin". Adolescents are educated concering their bodies, their responsibilites and consequences without shame. Let's divorce this idea of sex being sinful. It's not when it's put in it's sacred context and pleasure for both partners is encouraged. Repression breeds obsession. Not deviant things, but the healthy expressions... and we all know the difference, now don't we?

Agreed shaking our fingers at sex as a no no is also a cause of many sexual deviance. Much like the Roman Catholic Pope who preaches Christ never married and now Father's a Church of known Pedophiles.

Yes, and condemning loving homosexuals who struggle with faith and desire, many chosing celibacy (my cousin who was sensitive and called "sissy" all his life) or companionship only relationships (a school friend). All the while they're buggering little boys and creating a sadomasochistic culture. Same with Protestant fundamentalists. I know some mock them, but growing up in that environment? I suspect that's part of why I'm here.

I don't judge them, they are honestly scared shitless of hell. They claim that fearing God is loving God because some perverted patriarchist screamed it through their skulls every Sunday morning. I never bought it, but since those were the only folks around me, loving them unconditionally seemed the only way to get through. They aren't bad, they're afraid. Watching the cognitive dissonance when you introduce a new idea is heartbreaking.

They love Jesus for dying for them and actually try to love each other, but the whole setup creates this vicious cycle of guilt, resentment and judgment, it cuts them off from true spirituality. Making changes to approach in language without anger or smugness goes a long way.

Hey Apollo did you take a look at my astrology thingy? lol
I don't know chart I guess?

Ella, se desliza y me atropella.
Y, aunque a veces no me importe
se, que el día que la pierda,
volveré a sufrir por ....
ella, que aparece y que se esconde;
que se marcha y que se queda;
que es pregunta y es responde;
que es mi oscuridad, mi estrella.
Ella, me peina el alma y me la enreda;
va conmigo pero, no se donde va.
Mi rival, mi compañera;
que esta tan dentro de mi vida y,
a la vez, esta tan fuera.
Se que volverá a perderse y,
la encontrare de nuevo
pero con otro rostro y otro
nombre diferente y otro cuerpo.
Pero sigue siendo ella, que otra vez me lleva;
nunca me responde si, al girar la rueda....

Ella, se hace fría y se hace eterna;
un suspiro en la tormenta,
a la que tantas veces le cambio la voz.
Gente que va y que viene y,
siempre es ella,
que me miente y me lo niega;
que me olvida y me recuerda
pero, si mi boca se equivoca,
pero, si mi boca se equivoca y,
al llamarla nombro a otra,
a veces siente compasión por este loco,
ciego y loco corazón.

Sea, lo que quiera Dios que sea.
Mi delito es la torpeza de ignorar
que hay quien no tiene corazón
y va quemando, va quemándome y me quema
y, ¿si fuera ella?

Ella me peina el alma y me la enreda;
va conmigo... digo yo.
Mi rival, mi compañera; esa es ella
pero me cuesta, cuando otro adios se ve tan cerca
y, la perderé de nuevo y otra vez preguntare,
mientras se va y, no habrá respuestas
y, y esa que se aleja....
la que estoy perdiendo....
y, ¿si esa era?
y, ¿si fuera ella?

Sea, lo que quiera Dios que sea.
Mi delito es la torpeza de ignorar
que hay quien no tiene corazón
y va quemándome y me quema
y, ¿si fuera ella?

....A veces siente compasión
por este loco, ciego y loco corazón
¿era?¿quien me dice si era ella?
Y, si la vida es una rueda y va girando
y nadie sabe cuando tiene que saltar.
Y la miro.... y ¿si fuera ella? ¿si fuera ella?

Y,¿si fuera ella?-

WTF, is this Mexican music time?