Massive power outage in San Diego/Orange County/Tijuana/Parts of AZ | |
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closing eyes User ID: 1530062 United States 09/09/2011 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: LOST_ONE Are there tanks? Last Edited by closing eyes on 09/09/2011 03:22 AM If you woke up breathing, you have another chance! |
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Dino-B.C. User ID: 1540553 Canada 09/09/2011 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Dino-B.C. Where are you? Kelowna, BC. Not too worried! But ya never know. I remember hearing a few years ago some people were saying that tptb were going mess up the grid and cause chaos. I think the vids are still on you tube somewhere. |
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Doompa Loompa User ID: 1527490 United States 09/09/2011 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solar flares take about 8 minutes to reach earth. Coronal Mass Ejections (CME's) take a few days. Neither had anything to do with this. Quoting: Doompa Loompa well, i don't think it did either. but, that doesn't alter the fact that the front end of the X2 CME of Sept. 6 arrived at Earth around 3 p.m. pacific time today. Link? My understanding is the first CME wont arrive until later today. All geophysical activity has been quiet today. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1199845 United States 09/09/2011 03:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solar flares take about 8 minutes to reach earth. Coronal Mass Ejections (CME's) take a few days. Neither had anything to do with this. Quoting: Doompa Loompa Solar flares emit x rays and other frequencies of electromagnetic energy that travel at the same speed as visible light, meaning it take about 9 minutes to reach Earth from the Sun. These frequencies of EMR are not the cause of power grid failures related to solar flares, but do have biological consequences, especially when we get a tremendous blast of UV and x rays like the last X class flare produced. Coronal mass ejections vary in velocity and are composed of particle radiation from the Sun in the form of plasma. Some CME's have reached Earth in under 12 hours and others have taken a week to fully arrive. The velocity of the ejection of material determines how long it takes to reach Earth, generally the more energetic the eruption the higher the velocity. Your statement may or may not be correct, but I suspect you don't have a clue what you're talking about really. We have holes in our magnetosphere that are allowing radiation to penetrate to the surface and NO ONE, not you , not me, not NASA and not NOAA has any idea what the effects will be in a given location because the situation is so fluid and it is so unpredictable where these holes will be on any given day. A perfect storm like event could cause mass death and failure of electronic equipment in a localized area, while leaving surrounding areas unaffected.. It is conceivably possible to have a grid overload in a localized area from a less than total failure of the magnetosphere, meaning some areas would be totally unaffected while others were bathed in particle radiation. I definitely would not rule out effects from solar radiation storms as the cause, and I am probably as knowledgeable in this field of study as any other person on this planet. I am also aware that this problem is intentionally being downplayed and data is being filtered, altered and even totally withheld that is critical to the future survival of not only our own species, but most of the species on this planet. You sound like you're here to downplay the severity of the problem and it's implications, am I correct? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1389593 United States 09/09/2011 03:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The investigation into the blackout's cause is still under way, but it likely could be traced to an employee removing a piece of monitoring equipment at a power substation in southwest Arizona, they said." [link to hosted.ap.org] |
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Doompa Loompa User ID: 1527490 United States 09/09/2011 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solar flares take about 8 minutes to reach earth. Coronal Mass Ejections (CME's) take a few days. Neither had anything to do with this. Quoting: Doompa Loompa Solar flares emit x rays and other frequencies of electromagnetic energy that travel at the same speed as visible light, meaning it take about 9 minutes to reach Earth from the Sun. These frequencies of EMR are not the cause of power grid failures related to solar flares, but do have biological consequences, especially when we get a tremendous blast of UV and x rays like the last X class flare produced. Coronal mass ejections vary in velocity and are composed of particle radiation from the Sun in the form of plasma. Some CME's have reached Earth in under 12 hours and others have taken a week to fully arrive. The velocity of the ejection of material determines how long it takes to reach Earth, generally the more energetic the eruption the higher the velocity. Your statement may or may not be correct, but I suspect you don't have a clue what you're talking about really. We have holes in our magnetosphere that are allowing radiation to penetrate to the surface and NO ONE, not you , not me, not NASA and not NOAA has any idea what the effects will be in a given location because the situation is so fluid and it is so unpredictable where these holes will be on any given day. A perfect storm like event could cause mass death and failure of electronic equipment in a localized area, while leaving surrounding areas unaffected.. It is conceivably possible to have a grid overload in a localized area from a less than total failure of the magnetosphere, meaning some areas would be totally unaffected while others were bathed in particle radiation. I definitely would not rule out effects from solar radiation storms as the cause, and I am probably as knowledgeable in this field of study as any other person on this planet. I am also aware that this problem is intentionally being downplayed and data is being filtered, altered and even totally withheld that is critical to the future survival of not only our own species, but most of the species on this planet. You sound like you're here to downplay the severity of the problem and it's implications, am I correct? I don't claim to be an expert. I was just pointing out the difference between the two, and my opinion that neither are the cause based on timing, recent similar events, and all the information available to me. Last Edited by Doompa Loompa on 09/09/2011 03:48 AM |
UseLess RepEATER User ID: 1515478 United States 09/09/2011 03:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone mentioned it could be a distraction to sneak something across border, etc. I hope not. I hope it was just a system overload on the grid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1541086 That's what I'm thinking; not to mention the San Clemente HS bomb scare evac. yesterday. Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies..... Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. ~H. L. Mencken~ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light. ~Plato~ When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. ~Dresden James~ |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1541681 United States 09/09/2011 03:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SOMEONE FROM CALIFORNIA....please answer... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055324 How is another country (mexico) on the same grid as the US? Are people from Mexico paying their electric bill to the same company that supplies electric to california and Arizona? I dont get it and never heard of this. [link to buildaroo.com] This is a different type of power, wind but we do share/trade with them. This geothermal... [link to thinkgeoenergy.com] I´ll answer that question for you. The border is pretty darned porous, with America spilling into Mexico a bit and Mexico spilling nto the US. Americans galore in Mexico,often retirees but also tourists, sportfishing fans, surfers, etc. lots of Mexicans in the US. The border is more a gradient not a demarcation. So having the same power company on both sides doesn't seem too surprising. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 276706 United Kingdom 09/09/2011 03:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if this whole thing was actually to stop another psy-op 9/11 attack. Only it was going to happen on 9/9/11? Those who are trying to prevent another 9/11 psy-op stopped it by the way of cutting power lines. It makes a bit of sense considering warnings were going out to get the public ready for another sort of attack. There really was no solid reason for this power cut and yet it happened with no plausable explanation. Internal war going on here. Maybe good guys are winning. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 276706 United Kingdom 09/09/2011 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if this whole thing was actually to stop another psy-op 9/11 attack. Only it was going to happen on 9/9/11? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 276706 Those who are trying to prevent another 9/11 psy-op stopped it by the way of cutting power lines. It makes a bit of sense considering warnings were going out to get the public ready for another sort of attack. There really was no solid reason for this power cut and yet it happened with no plausable explanation. Internal war going on here. Maybe good guys are winning. To add to this. Tony Blair gave an interview yesterday stating that Iran and Syria must have a regim change. Timing is very suspect. Imagin telling the leaders and public about Iran and Syria and then a psy-op attack to convince the American sheeple for another round of Libya on Iran and syria. Thankfully it did not work. He must be pissed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1460682 United States 09/09/2011 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What if this whole thing was actually to stop another psy-op 9/11 attack. Only it was going to happen on 9/9/11? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 276706 Those who are trying to prevent another 9/11 psy-op stopped it by the way of cutting power lines. It makes a bit of sense considering warnings were going out to get the public ready for another sort of attack. There really was no solid reason for this power cut and yet it happened with no plausable explanation. Internal war going on here. Maybe good guys are winning. You should get bonus points for a conspiracy theory like that. Well played. |
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