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How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?

 
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Ron Paul is the only constitutionalist. That's a conservative in the truest sense of the word. I want to conserve what the founders created. Paul's the only one with an understanding of economics. He fully understands the principals this country was founded upon. He knows his history and philosophy. We either restore this country to what it was intended to be or you can stick a fork in us. This is our last chance. I've got my mind made up on freedom, individual liberty, sovereignty, and putting America first. Ron Paul is the only candidate with those values. Like judge Andrew Napolitano says, RP is a modern day Thomas Jefferson. This empire bullshit will destroy us, just like Rome. The clock is running out and we have precious little time if we want to restore the country.
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Actually that is what HE and his droids say and it's not really true...at all...but as I said if you guys would like to have a policy debate on that?...I'd be more than happy to...in another thread....or perhaps in the voice chat...we can all go much faster without having to type ey?...;)
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Well you have to admit. We have been on the same road to hell for a long time, it's just a different driver at a different speed.


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Actually I don't believe that...what is this road to hell that you refer to which every president since Carter has had us on?...explain it.
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Your not actually serious are you?
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I did not vote for Obama, nor will I be voting for Ron Paul in the primaries. With that said, I'll be voting for anyone who runs against Obama. I don't care who it is at this point because I want this POS out of the white house and out of my life.
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Well you have to admit. We have been on the same road to hell for a long time, it's just a different driver at a different speed.


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Actually I don't believe that...what is this road to hell that you refer to which every president since Carter has had us on?...explain it.
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Your not actually serious are you?
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Sure I am....explain this road to hell that all the administrations regardless of party have had us on and how it has been same regardless of who's in power.
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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?
I did not vote for Obama, nor will I be voting for Ron Paul in the primaries. With that said, I'll be voting for anyone who runs against Obama. I don't care who it is at this point because I want this POS out of the white house and out of my life.
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Well...hopefully we won't really have to vote for a jar of pickles....but compared to Obama?....that might not be a bad option....them garlic ones ain't bad...;)
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Obama is doing good work , there is difference between being judophile and being American - code that well OP....
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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?
I did not vote for Obama, nor will I be voting for Ron Paul in the primaries. With that said, I'll be voting for anyone who runs against Obama. I don't care who it is at this point because I want this POS out of the white house and out of my life.
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Well...hopefully we won't really have to vote for a jar of pickles....but compared to Obama?....that might not be a bad option....them garlic ones ain't bad...;)
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I love garlic pickles :) But I think you know what I mean. I'm not really happy with the GOP on parade right now, personally I would like to see Palin run. But who ever makes the ticket, I will vote for them.
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Yes, I did vote in '08. Bob Barr/Wayne Allen Root. One of the 0.4%.

I live in NV, a closed primary state too, and have been a registered I since the '96 election.

OKC was my paradigm shift.
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So "If" RP doesn't win the nom....do you have an idea on which way to go?.....I understand that this election there is a lot of polarization and a lot of disappointment in Obama...since you voted Barr last time..would you vote against Obama this time by going with the candidate most likely to beat him?...or go "off the menu" for one of the less mainstream party noms again?...thanks for answering btw.
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If there's no choice, why vote at all?

Other than skin color, I don't see much difference between Bush and Obama.

Wall street still sets washington's agenda. Foreign wars still going full speed ahead. Bush tax cuts for the wealthy continue to be extended. Where's the difference?
 Quoting: The_Kitner_Boy


It's the "New boss same as the old boss" situation,been going on for a very long time since (I believe) the end of WW2. I couldn't see a major change from the Bush administration (Right Wing) and Obama Administration (Left Wing).
I don't know what to think about the political system in the West anymore, they seem more intrested in Middle Eastern "Democracy" than practice their own democracy in their own country.
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Hey Brit......you hit the nail on the head IMO
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Obama is doing good work , there is difference between being judophile and being American - code that well OP....
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Pffft...take a guess at how many Jewish Republicans are in congress dipshit...< that's an example of being insulting there...for who those who don't know....but go ahead take a guess...
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I did not vote for Obama, nor will I be voting for Ron Paul in the primaries. With that said, I'll be voting for anyone who runs against Obama. I don't care who it is at this point because I want this POS out of the white house and out of my life.
 Quoting: deadpammy


Well...hopefully we won't really have to vote for a jar of pickles....but compared to Obama?....that might not be a bad option....them garlic ones ain't bad...;)
 Quoting: SHR


I love garlic pickles :) But I think you know what I mean. I'm not really happy with the GOP on parade right now, personally I would like to see Palin run. But who ever makes the ticket, I will vote for them.
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I gave you good pickle karma...lol...but yes...I understand exactly what you mean...
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So "If" RP doesn't win the nom....do you have an idea on which way to go?.....I understand that this election there is a lot of polarization and a lot of disappointment in Obama...since you voted Barr last time..would you vote against Obama this time by going with the candidate most likely to beat him?...or go "off the menu" for one of the less mainstream party noms again?...thanks for answering btw.
 Quoting: SHR




If there's no choice, why vote at all?

Other than skin color, I don't see much difference between Bush and Obama.

Wall street still sets washington's agenda. Foreign wars still going full speed ahead. Bush tax cuts for the wealthy continue to be extended. Where's the difference?
 Quoting: The_Kitner_Boy


It's the "New boss same as the old boss" situation,been going on for a very long time since (I believe) the end of WW2. I couldn't see a major change from the Bush administration (Right Wing) and Obama Administration (Left Wing).
I don't know what to think about the political system in the West anymore, they seem more intrested in Middle Eastern "Democracy" than practice their own democracy in their own country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1542290


Hey Brit......you hit the nail on the head IMO
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Hit what nail?....you do realize that America has never been a Democracy, was never meant to be a Democracy and as long as we exist, as we were meant to, never will be a Democracy?
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If there's no choice, why vote at all?

Other than skin color, I don't see much difference between Bush and Obama.

Wall street still sets washington's agenda. Foreign wars still going full speed ahead. Bush tax cuts for the wealthy continue to be extended. Where's the difference?
 Quoting: The_Kitner_Boy


It's the "New boss same as the old boss" situation,been going on for a very long time since (I believe) the end of WW2. I couldn't see a major change from the Bush administration (Right Wing) and Obama Administration (Left Wing).
I don't know what to think about the political system in the West anymore, they seem more intrested in Middle Eastern "Democracy" than practice their own democracy in their own country.
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Hey Brit......you hit the nail on the head IMO
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Hit what nail?....you do realize that America has never been a Democracy, was never meant to be a Democracy and as long as we exist, as we were meant to, never will be a Democracy?
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I think you find you DO live in a Democracy (of sorts) you don't know real tyranny or oppression, where I have.So consider yourself lucky to live where you do, and change the future for the good.
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Does the job involve guns and ammunition?
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You bet...it involves being the boss of a thermonuclear Armageddon machine that can destroy all of the human race several times over...

Would you like to know more?
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Ummmm. Yeah.
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I can't vote,but as an african I supported Obama's hope and change in 2008,in 2012 I support Ron Paul for righteousness.
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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?
Poll? Hijacked by your rants.
Let me toss some honesty and truth in this --- the republican party will not eom the whitehouse this term unless they nominate and get behind Herman Cain ... period. BUT, you and they --- WON'T ... and you need to look in the mirror while holding a picture of Mr Cain and answer "Why not Cain"?!! It's the only way to win the whitehouse in 2012.

Obama waded into piranha infested waters with a base that just wanted the whitehouse and was never poised to support him. They've not done the work they should have done for America because they are profiteers just like the GOP fools. You really have a good "president" in Obama but just like you can't shake your prejudices, neither can his backers and his competitors.

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If there's no choice, why vote at all?

Other than skin color, I don't see much difference between Bush and Obama.

Wall street still sets washington's agenda. Foreign wars still going full speed ahead. Bush tax cuts for the wealthy continue to be extended. Where's the difference?
 Quoting: The_Kitner_Boy


It's the "New boss same as the old boss" situation,been going on for a very long time since (I believe) the end of WW2. I couldn't see a major change from the Bush administration (Right Wing) and Obama Administration (Left Wing).
I don't know what to think about the political system in the West anymore, they seem more intrested in Middle Eastern "Democracy" than practice their own democracy in their own country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1542290


Hey Brit......you hit the nail on the head IMO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1530155


Hit what nail?....you do realize that America has never been a Democracy, was never meant to be a Democracy and as long as we exist, as we were meant to, never will be a Democracy?
 Quoting: SHR


Yes I understand perfectly, the Brit made a point that was probably unintentional.........that we "practice Democracy" instead of what this nation was founded as, "a Republic".....that was my point in agreeing with him. We have strayed and in straying we have become a National Republic ruled by Law to the very system of Democracy that the Founders ABHORRED and spoke VERY vehemently against in their contemporaneous essays.
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It's the "New boss same as the old boss" situation,been going on for a very long time since (I believe) the end of WW2. I couldn't see a major change from the Bush administration (Right Wing) and Obama Administration (Left Wing).
I don't know what to think about the political system in the West anymore, they seem more intrested in Middle Eastern "Democracy" than practice their own democracy in their own country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1542290


Hey Brit......you hit the nail on the head IMO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1530155


Hit what nail?....you do realize that America has never been a Democracy, was never meant to be a Democracy and as long as we exist, as we were meant to, never will be a Democracy?
 Quoting: SHR


Yes I understand perfectly, the Brit made a point that was probably unintentional.........that we "practice Democracy" instead of what this nation was founded as, "a Republic".....that was my point in agreeing with him. We have strayed and in straying we have become a National Republic ruled by Law to the very system of Democracy that the Founders ABHORRED and spoke VERY vehemently against in their contemporaneous essays.
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I fixed my own comment....not enough coffee yet, MY BAD>

Yes I understand perfectly, the Brit made a point that was probably unintentional.........that we "practice Democracy" instead of what this nation was founded as, "a Republic".....that was my point in agreeing with him. We have strayed FROM BEING a National Republic ruled by Law to the very system of Democracy that the Founders ABHORRED and spoke VERY vehemently against in their contemporaneous essays.

In addition it is my firm understanding and belief that Democracy is the simple beginnings of Socialism.
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It's the "New boss same as the old boss" situation,been going on for a very long time since (I believe) the end of WW2. I couldn't see a major change from the Bush administration (Right Wing) and Obama Administration (Left Wing).
I don't know what to think about the political system in the West anymore, they seem more intrested in Middle Eastern "Democracy" than practice their own democracy in their own country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1542290


Hey Brit......you hit the nail on the head IMO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1530155


Hit what nail?....you do realize that America has never been a Democracy, was never meant to be a Democracy and as long as we exist, as we were meant to, never will be a Democracy?
 Quoting: SHR


I think you find you DO live in a Democracy (of sorts) you don't know real tyranny or oppression, where I have.So consider yourself lucky to live where you do, and change the future for the good.
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I do consider myself lucky to live in the USA...I try and change the future for the good every single day...I hope we never so experience real tyranny or oppression here...if I have a say...we won't.
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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?

Reposting from another thread:
There is no "losing" in voting for Ron Paul.

1. If the voting system is rigged, but we get enough people to vote for Paul, we can PROVE this to the be the case, or at least make it really hard for the establishment to get their man in office, and for their man to then lead the country. People still remember the close election of Gore and Bush, imagine if we could get another controversy like that going!
2. If Ron Paul is assassinated or morphs into every other politician once he gets into office, we have proof the whole system is rigged. That's powerful proof in the pudding.
3. If he fulfills his promises, this country will make a turn for the better. No one is saying Paul is a savior, or that there aren't thousands of moving parts besides the US that contribute to what goes on around us, or that this will be the end of all our struggles. But why not take a step in the right direction? Why try to foil it?
4. If you think Ron Paul is another puppet, or that voting is just supporting a broken system, that's fine. But instead of bashing Paul and his fans, why not unite with his fans and spend your time investigating alternatives for influencing change? Is there some anti-government group you know of that we should support? Are there things you encourage us to do locally, instead of focusing nationally?

Get rid of the hatred and the insults, get out of your arm chair, and just contribute to a productive conversation, god damn it! You don't have to agree, but at least get on the same page as us. It's not Ron Paul fans that will bring this nation down. It's people who have the same basic opinions about how corrupt this government is FIGHTING with each other, that will be the ultimate end of us all.

Replace your philosophy with a solution !

And, if you are already a Ron Paul fan, please know that there really is a media blackout around him. It's not being made up. That should be enough motivation to get you to the polls and get you talking to friends and family about him!

EX:
"Rick Perry" has been mentioned 9,630 times in the past month on the Austin Statesman.
"Ron Paul"? 163 times.

Thread: Local TX Paper Only Talks About Rick Perry
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Not voting for anybody anymore. fuck it, it's all a show....
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So just voting for whomever wins then...did you do that last time and cast your vote for Obama?...or did your guy lose....my guy lost too last time...so I feel ya.
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"Your guy"? Who do you work for?
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This poll kinda scares me it shows me that Obama will win if Ron Paul isn't the Republican nominee.
What would happen is it would split the vote and Obama would slide in and win the presidency. We can't let that happen
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Not voting for anybody anymore. fuck it, it's all a show....
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So just voting for whomever wins then...did you do that last time and cast your vote for Obama?...or did your guy lose....my guy lost too last time...so I feel ya.
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"Your guy"? Who do you work for?
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You guys really need to take some mydol or maybe an anti paranoia heavy narcotic sometimes....the guy I voted for goofus....lol...!
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Obama is the best thing to happen to america in a long time. Bush couldn't even string a sentence together for gawd sake. All the right is doing is bickering amongst themselves, if u look at em its like watching a bunch of retarded chimps.

Ron paul is dam man, but we all know he hasnt got a chance in hell, corporations/money men won't allow that to happen


Obama comes across as highly intelligent, sophisticated and a goal to help the common man. All u right wing nutjobs can say anything you wan but there isnt a decent man amongst the right, except ron paul that even comes close to Obama in the debating/ interacting with the people department. And thats the truth


Obama will win hands down....deal with it
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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?

Reposting from another thread:
There is no "losing" in voting for Ron Paul.

1. If the voting system is rigged, but we get enough people to vote for Paul, we can PROVE this to the be the case, or at least make it really hard for the establishment to get their man in office, and for their man to then lead the country. People still remember the close election of Gore and Bush, imagine if we could get another controversy like that going!
2. If Ron Paul is assassinated or morphs into every other politician once he gets into office, we have proof the whole system is rigged. That's powerful proof in the pudding.
3. If he fulfills his promises, this country will make a turn for the better. No one is saying Paul is a savior, or that there aren't thousands of moving parts besides the US that contribute to what goes on around us, or that this will be the end of all our struggles. But why not take a step in the right direction? Why try to foil it?
4. If you think Ron Paul is another puppet, or that voting is just supporting a broken system, that's fine. But instead of bashing Paul and his fans, why not unite with his fans and spend your time investigating alternatives for influencing change? Is there some anti-government group you know of that we should support? Are there things you encourage us to do locally, instead of focusing nationally?

Get rid of the hatred and the insults, get out of your arm chair, and just contribute to a productive conversation, god damn it! You don't have to agree, but at least get on the same page as us. It's not Ron Paul fans that will bring this nation down. It's people who have the same basic opinions about how corrupt this government is FIGHTING with each other, that will be the ultimate end of us all.

Replace your philosophy with a solution !

And, if you are already a Ron Paul fan, please know that there really is a media blackout around him. It's not being made up. That should be enough motivation to get you to the polls and get you talking to friends and family about him!

EX:
"Rick Perry" has been mentioned 9,630 times in the past month on the Austin Statesman.
"Ron Paul"? 163 times.

Thread: Local TX Paper Only Talks About Rick Perry
 Quoting: TruthSleuth

 Quoting: TruthSleuth


It's pretty simple, guys. There's not much room for argument honestly.

People are invested in the Ron Paul story and waging their bets on whether he's genuine and could make change once he gets to White House. If that doesn't pan out - he gets killed, or corrupted, or denied office even with enough votes - people will pay attention. It will be obvious the system is rigged. This ALONE could inspire a revolution.

And if he follows through, we win, too.

So, really, what's the point of being negative about it? We all say you have to believe in change in order for it to happen. Sure, the establishment keeps putting the same guys into office over and over. But we've probably had great presidents in the past (maybe Kennedy, or maybe only well before that), so there's no reason to believe it can't happen again.

If you're simply leaning on a conspiracy theory to justify not voting for Paul, rather than a practical strategy, I just don't "get" you." If you disagree with my points, more power to you - but don't just "hate." Have respect for your fellow man who like Ron Paul, and give us something to work with...some new idea, some solution! Otherwise, why are you here???


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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?
Obama is the best thing to happen to america in a long time. Bush couldn't even string a sentence together for gawd sake. All the right is doing is bickering amongst themselves, if u look at em its like watching a bunch of retarded chimps.

Ron paul is dam man, but we all know he hasnt got a chance in hell, corporations/money men won't allow that to happen


Obama comes across as highly intelligent, sophisticated and a goal to help the common man. All u right wing nutjobs can say anything you wan but there isnt a decent man amongst the right, except ron paul that even comes close to Obama in the debating/ interacting with the people department. And thats the truth


Obama will win hands down....deal with it
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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?
This poll kinda scares me it shows me that Obama will win if Ron Paul isn't the Republican nominee.
What would happen is it would split the vote and Obama would slide in and win the presidency. We can't let that happen
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Trust me when I tell you...if Ron Paul did win the nom?...which has about the same odds of happening as you being mauled by a polar bear AND a regular bear in the same day?...Obama would murder the republican party in a landslide...but that isn't going to happen so I'm not concerned...whoever does run against him?...they have a very strong chance of defeating Obama....but I do believe it will be a close race...so what I really wonder is how many ex-Obama voters will go back to him if Ron Paul is not nominated?...and how many RP voters will vote for RP as a write in....are the RP voters willing to risk Obama being re-elected by a very narrow margain?...one that maybe they could have swung with a mere few hundred votes?...how many of the RP fans are willing to go down with the ship...
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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?
PLUS all you conspiracy theorists, we know the media is trying to silence Paul!

Here's proof:
NY times:
Rick Perry 9500
Michele Bachmann 155
Mitt Romney 192
Ron Paul 60
Newt Gringich 59
Exact search results for candidate's names on Google, per various news sites, in past month - Thread: How the Tea Party Candidates Rank in Web Coverage
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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?
Poll? Hijacked by your rants.
Let me toss some honesty and truth in this --- the republican party will not eom the whitehouse this term unless they nominate and get behind Herman Cain ... period. BUT, you and they --- WON'T ... and you need to look in the mirror while holding a picture of Mr Cain and answer "Why not Cain"?!! It's the only way to win the whitehouse in 2012.

Obama waded into piranha infested waters with a base that just wanted the whitehouse and was never poised to support him. They've not done the work they should have done for America because they are profiteers just like the GOP fools. You really have a good "president" in Obama but just like you can't shake your prejudices, neither can his backers and his competitors.

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I'm not really sure what you are saying here, but I would vote for Mister Cain in a heart beat. I like every thing he has said in the debates, I think he is spot on about taxes, the EPA and entitlements and I think he would make a wonderful president.

I don't know if you read any of Obama's books, or listened to anything he has ever said, because if you have, your second paragraph makes no sense at all.
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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?
This poll kinda scares me it shows me that Obama will win if Ron Paul isn't the Republican nominee.
What would happen is it would split the vote and Obama would slide in and win the presidency. We can't let that happen
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Trust me when I tell you...if Ron Paul did win the nom?...which has about the same odds of happening as you being mauled by a polar bear AND a regular bear in the same day?...Obama would murder the republican party in a landslide...but that isn't going to happen so I'm not concerned...whoever does run against him?...they have a very strong chance of defeating Obama....but I do believe it will be a close race...so what I really wonder is how many ex-Obama voters will go back to him if Ron Paul is not nominated?...and how many RP voters will vote for RP as a write in....are the RP voters willing to risk Obama being re-elected by a very narrow margain?...one that maybe they could have swung with a mere few hundred votes?...how many of the RP fans are willing to go down with the ship...
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Why don't we stop the "ifs," the "wondering," and the theories and just DO something, in other words to go to the polls and see what happens. In your scenario of not doing anything, we KNOW nothing changes. In our scenario getting Ron Paul as much momentum as possible, we either see an "Establishment vs. Anti-Establishment" story play out for all to see, with has the power to wake people up, or nothing changes. Why not do anything at all???? And if you choose not to vote, that's fine, but what else do you suggest we do? This could be one of the easier and more peaceful ways to get the US moving in the right direction, if not make it all better over night.

And by the way, I just disagree - liberals love Ron Paul's anti-war stance. Uber-conserviates love Ron Paul. And Ron Paul is the first political topic my husband and I can agree with our parents on! He really DOES have the power to unite, he's only fringe and extreme because of how the media has painted him.

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Re: How many of the people here who will vote for Ron Paul this election voted for Obama last time?
This poll kinda scares me it shows me that Obama will win if Ron Paul isn't the Republican nominee.
What would happen is it would split the vote and Obama would slide in and win the presidency. We can't let that happen
 Quoting: ZOSIME


Trust me when I tell you...if Ron Paul did win the nom?...which has about the same odds of happening as you being mauled by a polar bear AND a regular bear in the same day?...Obama would murder the republican party in a landslide...but that isn't going to happen so I'm not concerned...whoever does run against him?...they have a very strong chance of defeating Obama....but I do believe it will be a close race...so what I really wonder is how many ex-Obama voters will go back to him if Ron Paul is not nominated?...and how many RP voters will vote for RP as a write in....are the RP voters willing to risk Obama being re-elected by a very narrow margain?...one that maybe they could have swung with a mere few hundred votes?...how many of the RP fans are willing to go down with the ship...
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What you say is exactly what will happen and that is a scary thought and the poll is showing they will stand by Ron Paul as a write in. Thats not good.
For sure the Obama team is banking on this to happen.





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