What I saw at Occupy Philadelphia last night | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9991 United States 10/07/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all these protests do is make the corporations think twice about giving more bribes or accepting more bailouts on the backs of the middle and lower class, then they are successful protests. Quoting: drex Thank you so much for the report back. I really do not understand some of the responses given here. It amazes me that there are people who are happy with the way things are, and have a fear of asking for the government to stand with its people, rather than support greed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2836346 United States 10/07/2011 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone be warned Quoting: uscrusader1 Communists have used this technique many times, befriend 'useful the idiots concept'(we want to talk to Tea Party), the outcome is still communism. OP=BS I'm sure the communist tards would love to talk to the Tea Party people when they are being backed by ACORN, soros, SEIU, moveon.org, etc. Quoting: uscrusader1 I'm sure the Tea Party would love to talk to the communist tards when they are being backed by FOX NEWS and Rupert Murdoch! We need to talk. We need to have people of all walks of life come together for a REAL town hall meeting! Do you agree with the list of demands given by the protesters? If so, your discussion would be better held in Venezuela. Chavez is such a lover. Quoting: Doc Savage For the 3rd or 4th time, no. These are not my demands. I want the restoration of the Constitution as the Law of the Land. OP--I like and admire your perspective and your style. You have the patience of a saint, especially in responding to extremely angry people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2835598 This is the kind of leadership and idealism that might get us out of this mess. Thank you :) and your avatar says tons about you left handed TEMPLAR |
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KimsThankful User ID: 2310107 United States 10/07/2011 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're not shills just because we don't agree with you. I appreciate your commentary on the protest last night, but I think you're a little naive about the main objective of the protestors. Not your fault, maybe do some research into 1930s Germany and Czechoslovakia. Google "top down, bottom up, inside out" or Joseph Stalin's "useful idiots." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2836346 United States 10/07/2011 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are teaming up with the powers that be! This movement is a power grab and you bought the hype hook, line and sinker! That list of demands is an afront to the American way. The powers that be want to be your nanny. They want to provide everything, and when they do, they will take every bit of freedom you were dilluted into believing you were protesting for. If that's what you want, go for it. I'm sitting back and watching for the masks to come off. Quoting: Junie I will NEVER team up with the powers that be. I do NOT demand the same as that list. That is NOT an official list of demands. THERE ARE NO DEMANDS YET! Sit back and watch. Your opinion will not be counted sitting alone watching it all happen. We need to learn from Egypt. We need to stick together in order for this, or any action, to work. Protests are a legal way to try to enact change. We have no demands for change yet. If the people complaining about the organizations supporting the protest were to come to one of these smaller protests (not wall street! go local!), we can EASILY overcome any influence by any outside force! A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1517741 United States 10/07/2011 10:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One thing I don't get is why everyone on here listens to what they're told by the media about what the message of the OWS and other Occupations is. Why don't you go down to one of the protests yourself and ask the people there what they support? Quoting: drex You may be surprised to find that they share many of your ideas. I'm sure it was the same as these protests: [link to urbaninfidel.blogspot.com] [link to zombietime.com] |
uscrusader1 User ID: 1242940 United States 10/07/2011 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And a perfect environment for communist's, obongo(an Idealist Communist) is just lovin' it! |
drex (OP) User ID: 1472740 United States 10/07/2011 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're not shills just because we don't agree with you. I appreciate your commentary on the protest last night, but I think you're a little naive about the main objective of the protestors. Not your fault, maybe do some research into 1930s Germany and Czechoslovakia. Google "top down, bottom up, inside out" or Joseph Stalin's "useful idiots." There is no list of demands by the protesters. The only objective is to have a real discussion about the state of affairs, and to ask the government to stand with its people or we will have to fix it ourselves. |
seeker2 User ID: 2836158 Thailand 10/07/2011 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice post OP, thanks for sharing your experience and giving us a first hand perspective of whats taking place. God knows there is enough speculation and disinformation going around. Despite all the bad PR being presented I think alot of good can come from the protests. As long as we the people stay united and don't let them divide us into faction. The government has run amuck an needs correcting. Its either that or we end up being bigger slaves than we already are. sk |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1517741 United States 10/07/2011 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all these protests do is make the corporations think twice about giving more bribes or accepting more bailouts on the backs of the middle and lower class, then they are successful protests. Quoting: drex Thank you so much for the report back. I really do not understand some of the responses given here. It amazes me that there are people who are happy with the way things are, and have a fear of asking for the government to stand with its people, rather than support greed. Because Obama is using you! He knew these bailouts would piss off the American people! He is using you to usher in a Communist style Government, ala Hugo Chavez! |
KimsThankful User ID: 2310107 United States 10/07/2011 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all these protests do is make the corporations think twice about giving more bribes or accepting more bailouts on the backs of the middle and lower class, then they are successful protests. Quoting: drex Thank you so much for the report back. I really do not understand some of the responses given here. It amazes me that there are people who are happy with the way things are, and have a fear of asking for the government to stand with its people, rather than support greed. The Tea Party has been calling for changes for the past two years and the left, including MSM, did nothing but vilify them. Like someone said earlier, these protests appear to be against corporate greed, where the Tea Party is against the government taxing us workers and giving it to corporations. Same difference, imo. The problem is that this protest movement has been hijacked by people who want to dramatically change our country. And not in a good way. |
uscrusader1 User ID: 1242940 United States 10/07/2011 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These protests are being backed by obongo's moveon.org! Because Obama is using you! He knew these bailouts would piss off the American people! He is using you to usher in a Communist style Government, ala Hugo Chavez! Quoting: hotntexas Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 10/07/2011 10:37 AM |
drex (OP) User ID: 1472740 United States 10/07/2011 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all these protests do is make the corporations think twice about giving more bribes or accepting more bailouts on the backs of the middle and lower class, then they are successful protests. Quoting: drex Thank you so much for the report back. I really do not understand some of the responses given here. It amazes me that there are people who are happy with the way things are, and have a fear of asking for the government to stand with its people, rather than support greed. Because Obama is using you! He knew these bailouts would piss off the American people! He is using you to usher in a Communist style Government, ala Hugo Chavez! We're not there yet. I will never support communism. I will ALWAYS side with the Constitution. And if Occupy Philadelphia decides to go another route, then I will no longer support Occupy Philadelphia. Currently, it's an open forum in a public square. If only the communists show up, then we've already lost. |
uscrusader1 User ID: 1242940 United States 10/07/2011 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They're already there OP... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1463105 Australia 10/07/2011 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | funny how all these OCCUPY's all just sprung up so well coordinated. only the gov't could engineer such a thing. what a sinister farce this whole thing is. the big question is why are they doing it? it is sure to be no good for the people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2706830 just go back a bit and remember the demoralization of a nation tactics, it`s about implementation to the course, i just read a article in pravda on another economic plunge and million displaced on a global scale,europe china usa only this one is meant to have millions starve. if interested it is in the incident tab.no good will come from state of emergency. |
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KimsThankful User ID: 2310107 United States 10/07/2011 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're not shills just because we don't agree with you. I appreciate your commentary on the protest last night, but I think you're a little naive about the main objective of the protestors. Not your fault, maybe do some research into 1930s Germany and Czechoslovakia. Google "top down, bottom up, inside out" or Joseph Stalin's "useful idiots." There is no list of demands by the protesters. The only objective is to have a real discussion about the state of affairs, and to ask the government to stand with its people or we will have to fix it ourselves. Do you really think "they" are going to let you pick and choose your government, your rights? "Power to the people" what does that look like? They're using you because people are angry and have been getting more and more frustrated for the past few years. Nudge, nudge, push push. Now it's time for shove, shove. They're waiting for this movement to grow and grow and then violence will start, some way, somehow. That's EXACTLY what they want. They don't want to talk to you or listen to you. They want you to rise up so they can quash you and the rest of the country with you. When the dust clears, we won't recognize our country anymore. |
drex (OP) User ID: 1472740 United States 10/07/2011 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Less than 10% of the signs I saw there last night had anything to do with communism. Most of them had to do with ending corporate personhood, not being able to afford a lobbyist, and ending the wars. If it turns into a communist protest, which it WAS NOT, then I will stop supporting it. OCCUPY PHILADELPHIA IS NOT OCCUPY WALL STREET! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1517741 United States 10/07/2011 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If all these protests do is make the corporations think twice about giving more bribes or accepting more bailouts on the backs of the middle and lower class, then they are successful protests. Quoting: drex Thank you so much for the report back. I really do not understand some of the responses given here. It amazes me that there are people who are happy with the way things are, and have a fear of asking for the government to stand with its people, rather than support greed. Because Obama is using you! He knew these bailouts would piss off the American people! He is using you to usher in a Communist style Government, ala Hugo Chavez! We're not there yet. I will never support communism. I will ALWAYS side with the Constitution. And if Occupy Philadelphia decides to go another route, then I will no longer support Occupy Philadelphia. Currently, it's an open forum in a public square. If only the communists show up, then we've already lost. I do think you have the best of intentions, but this cause has already been hijacked. Obama and his merry band of communist thugs are fomenting anger in the American people. The want to channel this anger for THEIR purposes! When you see the different union groups become part of the protests, you will know that they were sent to help Obama, not because they really care about the country. |
DILKe User ID: 2053427 United States 10/07/2011 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you live through the protests of the 1960s and 70s? Quoting: goodmockingbird Participate in them? Some of us did. We know how the game works, how the ruthless communist organisers SUBVERT the idealistic and innocent. Nope, but I watched Egypt. I watched Wisconsin. We want a discussion. I want the restoration of the Constitution as the Law of the Land. Do you agree with the list of demands given by the protesters? If so, your discussion would be better held in Venezuela. Chavez is such a lover. Holy shit, you are fucking dense. Have you not read this thread? OP does not agree with OWS demands... Marxism is the true enemy of our civilization. What is Cultural Marxism: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
drex (OP) User ID: 1472740 United States 10/07/2011 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need to take back control of our government from the banks and corporations...that fact that some of you think this instantly leads to communism just plays into their hand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2721200 Communism is NOT the only option here, but they want you to think it is. There are probably some pedophiles there too! does that make all the protesters pedophiles? run for the hills! Do you really think "they" are going to let you pick and choose your government, your rights? "Power to the people" what does that look like? Quoting: KimsThankful They're using you because people are angry and have been getting more and more frustrated for the past few years. Nudge, nudge, push push. Now it's time for shove, shove. They're waiting for this movement to grow and grow and then violence will start, some way, somehow. That's EXACTLY what they want. They don't want to talk to you or listen to you. They want you to rise up so they can quash you and the rest of the country with you. When the dust clears, we won't recognize our country anymore. The first group that uses violence will lose. That is well understood by the protesters in Philadelphia last night. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1517741 United States 10/07/2011 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're not shills just because we don't agree with you. I appreciate your commentary on the protest last night, but I think you're a little naive about the main objective of the protestors. Not your fault, maybe do some research into 1930s Germany and Czechoslovakia. Google "top down, bottom up, inside out" or Joseph Stalin's "useful idiots." There is no list of demands by the protesters. The only objective is to have a real discussion about the state of affairs, and to ask the government to stand with its people or we will have to fix it ourselves. Do you really think "they" are going to let you pick and choose your government, your rights? "Power to the people" what does that look like? They're using you because people are angry and have been getting more and more frustrated for the past few years. Nudge, nudge, push push. Now it's time for shove, shove. They're waiting for this movement to grow and grow and then violence will start, some way, somehow. That's EXACTLY what they want. They don't want to talk to you or listen to you. They want you to rise up so they can quash you and the rest of the country with you. When the dust clears, we won't recognize our country anymore. Kim'sThankful gets it!!! |
uscrusader1 User ID: 1242940 United States 10/07/2011 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | obongo is an Idealist Communist who's mentor was Frank Marshall Davis-a communist. This from his own autobiography. So the same obongo financing arm is also financing the demonstrations, this is communist option all the way! We need to take back control of our government from the banks and corporations...that fact that some of you think this instantly leads to communism just plays into their hand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2721200 Communism is NOT the only option here, but they want you to think it is. |
drex (OP) User ID: 1472740 United States 10/07/2011 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | obongo is an Idealist Communist who's mentor was Frank Marshall Davis-a communist. This from his own autobiography. So the same obongo financing arm is also financing the demonstrations, this is communist option all the way! Quoting: uscrusader1 We need to take back control of our government from the banks and corporations...that fact that some of you think this instantly leads to communism just plays into their hand. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2721200 Communism is NOT the only option here, but they want you to think it is. Obama is not in control. Don't let him think he is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2522645 United States 10/07/2011 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is MISGUIDED about supporting Sarah Palin's ideas for improving the government by rooting out corruption, as she already DID in Alaska ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180 Nothing, that's one thing Occupy Philadelphia agrees with. What is misguided about returning to the Constitution, and the power of the people ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180 Nothing. You seem to think all OWS protesters are socialist/communist tards. This is NOT the case. These people are gathering together to do JUST THAT - regain the power of the people! What better way than to make it inconvenient for the general population to go about their day without being confronted by the problems with society, corporations, and the government? The OWS protesters seem to have a LOT of MISGUIDED people who believe that anyone who makes more money than they, somehow don't "deserve it". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180 I'll have more respect for them if they protest rich people by NAME, starting with Oprah Winfrey, Tom Hanks, Bill Gates and other FILTHY RICH leftists. The Occupy protests are not to this point yet. They're gathering to determine what exactly should happen. Identify the specific problems and the best solutions for those problems. These are people who realize there's something wrong with the way things are running, and want to do something about it. But personally, I have no animosity for wealthy people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180 I want an end to cronyism, an end to RACIST programs like Affirmative Action, and end to giving "poor" people who REFUSE to work, part of my hard-earned money, to GIVE them cell phones, free food and shelter, which is why I work, so I can earn those things. So go protest and spread that message :) So... tell me, are they beginning to realize that they are getting screwed by Democrats in federal gov't? That Tea Party members are no different than them for the most part beside on how to run federal gov't? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2838247 Egypt 10/07/2011 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TEA party is against the wall street tards. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1159154 We will never join you nor support you. Wall Street tards are Communist, Socialist and anarchist. I'm against corporate greed. I'm against war profiteering. I'm against government corruption. I'm for small, limited government. I'm for ending the welfare state. I'm for ending lobbyists. I'm for ending corporate personhood. I'm for ending the Federal Reserve. "Your occupy game has no solution. Your philosophy is anti- American." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1159154 This is a game to you? Glad to hear you don't take peoples' opinions seriously. I hope people like you learn to listen and not just talk. My philosophy is Anti-American? How? Fuck off shill. I support the Constitution. You know, the part that says we have the right to protest? If you don't like it, why don't you do something about it? Go counter-protest. Go protest for corporate greed and big government. Nice, OP. The majority of Americans feel just like you do. It is only shills and sheep that would disagree. |
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KimsThankful User ID: 2310107 United States 10/07/2011 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: KimsThankful We're not shills just because we don't agree with you. I appreciate your commentary on the protest last night, but I think you're a little naive about the main objective of the protestors. Not your fault, maybe do some research into 1930s Germany and Czechoslovakia. Google "top down, bottom up, inside out" or Joseph Stalin's "useful idiots." There is no list of demands by the protesters. The only objective is to have a real discussion about the state of affairs, and to ask the government to stand with its people or we will have to fix it ourselves. Do you really think "they" are going to let you pick and choose your government, your rights? "Power to the people" what does that look like? They're using you because people are angry and have been getting more and more frustrated for the past few years. Nudge, nudge, push push. Now it's time for shove, shove. They're waiting for this movement to grow and grow and then violence will start, some way, somehow. That's EXACTLY what they want. They don't want to talk to you or listen to you. They want you to rise up so they can quash you and the rest of the country with you. When the dust clears, we won't recognize our country anymore. Kim'sThankful gets it!!! I'm in good company here! |