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John Lash expands upon the "Mytho Genetic Moment” a concept by Joseph Campbell by speaking about a “post correction experience” and what he furthers as the “Mytho Genetic Method. It is a 50 minute audio and well worth it.

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The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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"And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick

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Hey, Bowman. I won’t be around much today. Enjoy. You will vibe with it. I am re-listening to it too as I work.
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Hey, Bowman. I won’t be around much today. Enjoy. You will vibe with it. I am re-listening to it too as I work.
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Hey, thanks for the posting. I have a long work day today but eventually I'll make it home to check this out. I really enjoyed the last interview of his that I listened to.

hf


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"And I understood that in an age where there was so much ego, because of the camera, that it was very important to look for that kind of player, ... I began to look for the kind of player that doesn't need his ego fed by stardom, but will do what he's supposed to do because he knows the game and loves the game, and will do the job the right way even if someone else gets the glory." ~ Bill Belichick

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Thank you for this :) Right up my alley! Bumping for now, digging up my pop culture/mytheme thoughts, they're hiding somehwere, I wrote a journal about this subject for my personal files and I'll share when I clean it up a little. You know me... we're made in the image of God which means he/she/them must be genre savvy, lol. :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Thank you for this :) Right up my alley! Bumping for now, digging up my pop culture/mytheme thoughts, they're hiding somehwere, I wrote a journal about this subject for my personal files and I'll share when I clean it up a little. You know me... we're made in the image of God which means he/she/them must be genre savvy, lol. :)
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I look forward to your piece. Anxiously await. I am ‘churning' another piece in the ‘spiral' of brain as well. I needed to go back and listen to this first. Yes, it is on the tip of our tongues now. Good vision.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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Thank you for this :) Right up my alley! Bumping for now, digging up my pop culture/mytheme thoughts, they're hiding somehwere, I wrote a journal about this subject for my personal files and I'll share when I clean it up a little. You know me... we're made in the image of God which means he/she/them must be genre savvy, lol. :)
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I look forward to your piece. Anxiously await. I am ‘churning' another piece in the ‘spiral' of brain as well. I needed to go back and listen to this first. Yes, it is on the tip of our tongues now. Good vision.
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Did you get my email? THAT was a strange vision, lol. :)
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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Thank you for this :) Right up my alley! Bumping for now, digging up my pop culture/mytheme thoughts, they're hiding somehwere, I wrote a journal about this subject for my personal files and I'll share when I clean it up a little. You know me... we're made in the image of God which means he/she/them must be genre savvy, lol. :)
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I look forward to your piece. Anxiously await. I am ‘churning' another piece in the ‘spiral' of brain as well. I needed to go back and listen to this first. Yes, it is on the tip of our tongues now. Good vision.
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Did you get my email? THAT was a strange vision, lol. :)
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Haven’t checked my email. Will do so.
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Hey, Bowman. I won’t be around much today. Enjoy. You will vibe with it. I am re-listening to it too as I work.
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Hey, thanks for the posting. I have a long work day today but eventually I'll make it home to check this out. I really enjoyed the last interview of his that I listened to.

hf


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It might be the same one you listened to before. Can’t remember which one I posted on your thread. But I noticed this time around he talked about fractal. Just felt the want to listen again with everything we have been talking about in this last week.
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lmao

get a load of the "mytho-catalytic trans-phenomenal trans-personal" verbiage

So, what is a Mythogenic Experience?
...
What the model suggests is that when we engage a Meta-Linguistic Interface (consisting of symbols, myths and/or rituals), there is a mytho-catalytic reaction that produces an experience in our mind that seems to trigger some type of encounter with a form of trans-phenomenal reality, expressible often in terms of mystery, wisdom or beauty. As one continues to respond and participate more fully in that encounter, two dimensions of Mythogenic Experience emerge, personal and trans-personal.

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lmao

get a load of the "mytho-catalytic trans-phenomenal trans-personal" verbiage

So, what is a Mythogenic Experience?
...
What the model suggests is that when we engage a Meta-Linguistic Interface (consisting of symbols, myths and/or rituals), there is a mytho-catalytic reaction that produces an experience in our mind that seems to trigger some type of encounter with a form of trans-phenomenal reality, expressible often in terms of mystery, wisdom or beauty. As one continues to respond and participate more fully in that encounter, two dimensions of Mythogenic Experience emerge, personal and trans-personal.

[link to gcharlesandersen.com]
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get a load of the "mytho-catalytic trans-phenomenal trans-personal" verbiage

So, what is a Mythogenic Experience?
...
What the model suggests is that when we engage a Meta-Linguistic Interface (consisting of symbols, myths and/or rituals), there is a mytho-catalytic reaction that produces an experience in our mind that seems to trigger some type of encounter with a form of trans-phenomenal reality, expressible often in terms of mystery, wisdom or beauty. As one continues to respond and participate more fully in that encounter, two dimensions of Mythogenic Experience emerge, personal and trans-personal.

[link to gcharlesandersen.com]
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Thank you for finding the link. I was saying to self earlier...self go and find that link for everyone. lol
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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lmao

get a load of the "mytho-catalytic trans-phenomenal trans-personal" verbiage

So, what is a Mythogenic Experience?
...
What the model suggests is that when we engage a Meta-Linguistic Interface (consisting of symbols, myths and/or rituals), there is a mytho-catalytic reaction that produces an experience in our mind that seems to trigger some type of encounter with a form of trans-phenomenal reality, expressible often in terms of mystery, wisdom or beauty. As one continues to respond and participate more fully in that encounter, two dimensions of Mythogenic Experience emerge, personal and trans-personal.

[link to gcharlesandersen.com]
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Thank you for finding the link. I was saying to self earlier...self go and find that link for everyone. lol
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Quantum lingusitics, it's way more fun to model layers with info we've got on hand anyway and built models. Why recreate language and over complicate? Nothing is ever one thing, it's all connected.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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lmao

get a load of the "mytho-catalytic trans-phenomenal trans-personal" verbiage

So, what is a Mythogenic Experience?
...
What the model suggests is that when we engage a Meta-Linguistic Interface (consisting of symbols, myths and/or rituals), there is a mytho-catalytic reaction that produces an experience in our mind that seems to trigger some type of encounter with a form of trans-phenomenal reality, expressible often in terms of mystery, wisdom or beauty. As one continues to respond and participate more fully in that encounter, two dimensions of Mythogenic Experience emerge, personal and trans-personal.

[link to gcharlesandersen.com]
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Thank you for finding the link. I was saying to self earlier...self go and find that link for everyone. lol
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Quantum lingusitics, it's way more fun to model layers with info we've got on hand anyway and built models. Why recreate language and over complicate? Nothing is ever one thing, it's all connected.
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My process of doing it simplified language. The poems from the narrative poems were initially poems about nature written while hiking. As I went deeper into the written word while “feeling” nature at the same time, feeling what we had done to nature, they then evolved into the other synchs of symbols, older language, the sense of Sacred Nature that gets told through love stories or tragedy or religion or what not. Then research ensued as by that time I recognized a deeper level of consciousness that is in synch with earth and each other whether we recognize it or not. Now mind you, I did not realize I was having something called a “mythogenic experience”. I just wrote it down. Heuristic methodology works in the same fashion.
The term derives from the Ancient Greek words, meta, meaning beyond or after, and noia, meaning perception or understanding or mind.
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he stole his ideas from frank herberts DUNE series
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he stole his ideas from frank herberts DUNE series
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Metahistory.org

Edit to ask: So is Dune what you resonate with to recognize ‘source’?

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lmao

get a load of the "mytho-catalytic trans-phenomenal trans-personal" verbiage

So, what is a Mythogenic Experience?
...
What the model suggests is that when we engage a Meta-Linguistic Interface (consisting of symbols, myths and/or rituals), there is a mytho-catalytic reaction that produces an experience in our mind that seems to trigger some type of encounter with a form of trans-phenomenal reality, expressible often in terms of mystery, wisdom or beauty. As one continues to respond and participate more fully in that encounter, two dimensions of Mythogenic Experience emerge, personal and trans-personal.

[link to gcharlesandersen.com]
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Thank you for finding the link. I was saying to self earlier...self go and find that link for everyone. lol
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Quantum lingusitics, it's way more fun to model layers with info we've got on hand anyway and built models. Why recreate language and over complicate? Nothing is ever one thing, it's all connected.
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My process of doing it simplified language. The poems from the narrative poems were initially poems about nature written while hiking. As I went deeper into the written word while “feeling” nature at the same time, feeling what we had done to nature, they then evolved into the other synchs of symbols, older language, the sense of Sacred Nature that gets told through love stories or tragedy or religion or what not. Then research ensued as by that time I recognized a deeper level of consciousness that is in synch with earth and each other whether we recognize it or not. Now mind you, I did not realize I was having something called a “mythogenic experience”. I just wrote it down. Heuristic methodology works in the same fashion.
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Layers :) Plus we get the chance to negate and agree with each new thought. One thing mentioned by someone else branches us off again on our own search dependant on what we're triggered by. Synchronicity. Like what we were talking about.

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[link to hubblesite.org]

Awakens visions of butterflies, butterfly effect (modern mythology, lol), ladders, Jacob's Ladder.
"Chaos exists as a pool of possibilities that order draws from and organizes according to creative desire. Some things get tossed down the memory hole only to reemerge later when the need arises. Neither chaos nor order holds a monopoly on creation and destruction, creative or destructive chaos exists as does creative and destructive order." - ME! Yeah, Bea :) snoocherdoodle@gmail.com
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he stole his ideas from frank herberts DUNE series
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Metahistory.org

Edit to ask: So is Dune what you resonate with to recognize ‘source’?
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Good one. Right to the point.
Mythol provides so many sources to choose from.
Today's most powerful claim to provide the 'key' to Jacob's Latter.
Yet their rituals are dumbed down to provide a keystone.

Another barrier, another mythos shattered.
No wonder they hold their power tight to the bosom.
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Awakens visions of butterflies, butterfly effect (modern mythology, lol), ladders, Jacob's Ladder.
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Amazing. Reminds me in the scene from Contact where Ellie is saying “no words”. She couldn’t describe what she was seeing back to ‘command’. I should go back and read that book or watch it. Seems to fit with what aether was expressing earlier about the ‘politics of god’.
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maybe they need to dig in colorado for clues.


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or oklahoma but when you like to make things again with whatever it is and use whatever you need to use to go on alone ..

>>>i don;t know to be honest.

i like ways and dislike allot of sturdy people whoever they are i don;t care.

i don;t do payments.



thats like hmm space is cooler then being around all that crap talk.
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reading this thread transports my thoughts to summer 2010 on human energy thread

remember the layers, everything forms from the inside outwards, stage by stage, layer by layer, we see it as growth

everything forms into what it`s energy/information forces it to be

structure and function

when it forms into it`s structure. it functions as it`s structure dictates

the energy/information comes from the non material dimension of charge/field/rotation

the first shape formed in the material dimension is the rotation/vortice
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i can still experience the sensation of writing those posts, it was for the first time and there was a disconnect between how to express what i knew and what i wrote,i wrote in between the two as in : "lived" after i desired to write it but before i wrote the words, the place in between, the faster velocity
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reading this thread transports my thoughts to summer 2010 on human energy thread

remember the layers, everything forms from the inside outwards, stage by stage, layer by layer, we see it as growth

everything forms into what it`s energy/information forces it to be

structure and function

when it forms into it`s structure. it functions as it`s structure dictates

the energy/information comes from the non material dimension of charge/field/rotation

the first shape formed in the material dimension is the rotation/vortice
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i can still experience the sensation of writing those posts, it was for the first time and there was a disconnect between how to express what i knew and what i wrote,i wrote in between the two as in : "lived" after i desired to write it but before i wrote the words, the place in between, the faster velocity
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that sucks can`t edit cool2

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John Lash expands upon the "Mytho Genetic Moment” a concept by Joseph Campbell by speaking about a “post correction experience” and what he furthers as the “Mytho Genetic Method. It is a 50 minute audio and well worth it.

THE TRUE ANARCHY OF LIFE ON EARTH
The Human Role in Sophia's Correction

[link to www.metahistory.org]
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Here's an example of my own 'mytho genetic moment' just by reading the words in this post.. and "saying them" internally, not out loud.

Joseph "Campbell" and after hearing so many of his lectures I can't help but wondering what he thought of Warhol's famous work, with the soup cans. I think he would consider it "contemporary mytho-realism"



google campbell and realism and it yields.."the correction."

Illusions of Paradox: A Feminist Epistemology Naturalized (review)
Hypatia - Volume 17, Number 1, Winter 2002, pp. 226-230

Indiana University Press

Edrie Sobstyl - Illusions of Paradox: A Feminist Epistemology Naturalized (review) - Hypatia 17:1 Hypatia 17.1 (2002) 226-230

Book Review Illusions of Paradox: A Feminist Epistemology Naturalized Illusions of Paradox: A Feminist Epistemology Naturalized. By RICHMOND CAMPBELL. Md.: Rowman and Littlefield, 1998. "Paradox Tossed" Critics of feminist epistemology continue to focus their attention on early texts which, while path-breaking in the 1980s, have been refined and largely superceded by an abundance of new feminist work. These critics, committed to an outdated model of objectivity for science, object strenuously to the keystone of the feminist project: the combination of feminist values and objectivity, they claim, is not just inappropriate, but dangerous. Impartial inquiry requires that we work hard to free ourselves of all bias in knowledge-seeking, and feminist values can only hinder our search for truth, as Nazi values hindered German scientists and Lamarckian values hindered Soviet research. This paradox of feminist epistemology is defeated easily by most philosophers and historians of science, who recognize that value commitments, (political and scientific), have always played a large role in research and are not distilled out of the results of science when the magical filter to the context of justification is crossed. Even the logical positivists, who are unfairly criticized for their obsession with purification rituals, acknowledged this....

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Add soup, and we get art.

[link to robertlemay.blogspot.com]

The sound of the name "Warhol" sounds like "war hall" to me, and that makes me think of feasting in Valhalla!

Add "genetic memory.."




Before the Cycle Starts....

After the wars between the older rulers of the earth and the lords of the sky, the victorious young king of the gods, Wotan, wanders the middle earth looking to gain all the knowledge and power he can find. He comes to a spring at the foot of the World Ash Tree and asks the norns at the fountain of Mimr for all knowledge of the past, present, and future. The Norns agree to give Wotan most of their knowledge but only after he hangs on the world ash tree for a long space of time, and to give the Norns one of his eyes.
Wotan does all this and the Norns give him sacred knowledge. He breaks off one of the branches of the World Ash tree and fashions for himself a spear on which he carves the runes and sacred knowledge he has learned. He decrees that henceforth all contracts and sacred pacts (vertragen) most be protected by his spear. But by breaking off this branch, Wotan himself starts the slow decay of the World Ash Tree which harkens to the ultimate downfall of the gods.

To further consolidate his power he enslaves the fire god, Loge, who becomes his partner in crime, and by giving another eye (?) he marries the goddess, Fricka.

Spurred on by Fricka, and Loge, Wotan decides to build a splendid castle in the heavens from which he can look down on all the men, giants, and dwarves of the middle and low parts of the earth. He hires two mighty giants, Fasfolt and Fafner, to build this castle, Valhalla, for him. He finds however that he has nothing to pay the giants with and turns to Loge. Loge consuls Wotan to say that when done he will pay them with the young goddess of youth, Freia the sister of Fricka who grows the golden apples that keep the gods young. The giants agree and build the mighty fortress while all the gods sleep.

A primal force of nature deposits the magic gold into the river Rhine and instructs his three daughters, the Rhinemaidens, to watch the gold carefully. They constantly swim around it in joyful love.

DAS RHINEGOLD - THE THEFT OF THE MAGICAL GOLD
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Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid,
it is true that most stupid people are conservative.

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Because it is easier to give someone the finger than a helping hand.
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“As living information, the plasmate travels up the optic nerve of a human to the pineal body. It uses the human brain as a female host in which to replicate itself into its active form. This is an interspecies symbiosis. The Hermetic alchemists knew of it in theory from ancient texts, but could not duplicate it, since they could not locate the dormant, buried plasmate. Bruno suspected that the plasmate had been destroyed by the Empire; for hinting at this he was burned. “The Empire never ended.”



“Since the universe is actually composed of information, then it can be said that information will save us. This is the saving gnosis which the Gnostics sought.”
 Quoting: Philip K. Dick in “VALIS”
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“As living information, the plasmate travels up the optic nerve of a human to the pineal body. It uses the human brain as a female host in which to replicate itself into its active form. This is an interspecies symbiosis. The Hermetic alchemists knew of it in theory from ancient texts, but could not duplicate it, since they could not locate the dormant, buried plasmate. Bruno suspected that the plasmate had been destroyed by the Empire; for hinting at this he was burned. “The Empire never ended.”



“Since the universe is actually composed of information, then it can be said that information will save us. This is the saving gnosis which the Gnostics sought.”
 Quoting: Philip K. Dick in “VALIS”

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Or point an 'air' shaft in a 'particular' direction so as to gather more celestial plasmate?
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or oklahoma but when you like to make things again with whatever it is and use whatever you need to use to go on alone ..

>>>i don;t know to be honest.

i like ways and dislike allot of sturdy people whoever they are i don;t care.

i don;t do payments.



thats like hmm space is cooler then being around all that crap talk.
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