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EARTHQUAKES? EARTH IS EXPANDING!

 
Thomas Dolby 5.5
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EARTHQUAKES? EARTH IS EXPANDING!
Expanding as growing.

No bullshit here!

That´s according to a well known personality who frequently transits Coast to Coast AM.

That is one of the reasons for the rash of Eqs lately.

Whatever is affecting our planet is also affecting the sun.

The information coming from his own computer as an e-mail to me.

He is still investigating the situation as we speak.

Now, what do you think of this?
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well said idol
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So, idol.

You want to see a link, right?
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"So live each and every day that you may look any man in the face and tell him to go to hell...! Edgar Cayce, reading 1739-6
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"EARTHQUAKES? EARTH IS EXPANDING!"

... lol, aren´t we all.

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Since I gave up smoking my bottom has expanded.

Are you gonna take me home tonight
All down beside that red firelight
Are you gonna let it all hang out
Fat bottomed girls
You make the rockin´ world go round

Hey I was just a skinny lad
Never knew no good from bad
But I knew life before I left my nursery
Left alone with big fat Fanny
She was such a naughty nanny
Heap big woman you made a fat boy out of me
Hey hey!

I´ve been singing with my band
Across the wire across the land
I seen ev´ry blue eyed floozy on the way, hey
But their beauty and their style
Went kind of smooth after a while
Take me to them dirty ladies every time

Oh won´t you take me home tonight?
Oh down beside your red firelight
Oh and you give it all you got
Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin´ world go round
Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin´ world go round

Hey listen here
Now I got mortgages and homes
I got stiffness in the bones
Ain´t no beauty queens in this locality (I tell ya)
Oh but I still get my pleasure
Still got my greatest treasure
Heap big woman you gone and made a big man out of me
Now get this

Are you gonna take me home tonight (please)
All down beside that red firelight
Are you gonna let it all hang out
Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin´ world go round
Fat bottomed girls you make the rockin´ world go round
GET ON YOUR BIKES AND RIDE!

Oooh yeah oh yeah them fat bottomed girls
Fat bottomed girls
Yeah yeah yeah
all right
ride ´em cowboys
Fat bottomed girls
Yes yes
ohh gets me everytime

band
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I´m sorry. But, I can not reproduce the personality´s personal e-mail without his green light.
"So put your hands down my pants and I'll bet you'll feel nuts
Yes I'm Siskel, yes I'm Ebert and you're getting two thumbs up"


"So live each and every day that you may look any man in the face and tell him to go to hell...! Edgar Cayce, reading 1739-6
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But, you will hear from himself soon.

Just let me tell you that he is above average.

Unlike some people here!
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"So live each and every day that you may look any man in the face and tell him to go to hell...! Edgar Cayce, reading 1739-6
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"You want to see a link, right?"

No. The argument is preposterous anyway. How can the Earth be expanding? Do you mean growing in size?
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Compressing at the poles, expanding at the equator...blink
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"Compressing at the poles, expanding at the equator..."

Is there something to confirm this?
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This is nothing new.
Information have been supressed for a while but it can not stay that way forever.

Planetary Geology
Climate Change on Mars

Data gathered by NASA’s Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft suggest that the martian climate may have changed significantly in the past, and may be changing quickly even now. According to two papers published in the Dec. 7, 2001, issue of Science, these changes may happen over a much shorter time scale than scientists previously thought.

Look at the date...

Look who published...© 2005 American Geological Institute

[link to www.geotimes.org]
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"Compressing at the poles, expanding at the equator..."

Is there something to confirm this?




Yep my boyfriend
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"Yep my boyfriend"

I meant data, researches, et cetera.
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the earths expansion is the reason for the feeling of gravity.

its like being on an elevator
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sorry idol your book was wrong
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"the earths expansion is the reason for the feeling of gravity.

its like being on an elevator"

blink
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[link to www.thefinaltheory.com]
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From NASA

[link to mars.jpl.nasa.gov]
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"Is there something to confirm this?"

That´s old news Idol, Earth-101.thwak


[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

Why is Earth´s Girth Bulging?

John Roach
for National Geographic News

August 7, 2002
This is heavy.

Something massive is moving on or within the Earth and causing the planet´s gravity field to get wider around the equator and flatter at the poles, according to a pair of scientists studying the field with sensitive satellite instruments.

The scientists are uncertain as to the reasons for this phenomenon, which was just the opposite for several decades prior to 1997, but think the answer possibly lies within long-term variation in the oceans.

"Starting after 1997, the world that was getting rounder started getting more oblate [flattened at the poles]," said Christopher Cox, a research scientist at the Space Geodesy Branch of NASA´s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

At first, the scientists had any number of explanations for this observed phenomenon—from changes in the atmosphere to the amount of water in the oceans to ocean tidal effects. But the Earth kept getting fatter at the equator and flatter at the poles.

"It has finally gotten so big that we can´t explain it with any known mechanism," said Cox, who co-authored a paper in the August 2 issue of the journal Science on this change in shape of the Earth´s gravity field.

The change in shape since 1997 is very subtle: an increase in equatorial radius of about one 25th of an inch (one millimeter) per year, according to measurements.

"What is interesting is that it tells us that some mass redistribution occurred inside the Earth system, probably the climate system," said Anny Cazenave, an Earth scientist at the National Center for Space Studies in Toulouse, France. "This is an interesting constraint to climate models."

Post-Glacial Rebound

Prior to 1997 the Earth was getting rounder as it recovered from thousands of years of being squished at the poles by the weight of Ice Age glaciers, an effect scientists refer to as post-glacial rebound (PGR).

As the ice sheets melted, the land that was beneath the ice started rising. As the ground rebounded in this fashion, the gravity field changed. The effect is likened to putting a finger on a rubber ball and watching it slowly bounce back.
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"Why is Earth´s Girth Bulging?"

Where is it said it causes earthquakes?
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[link to www.aoi.com.au]

Introduction



We can characterize those theories which assume the Earth has maintained an essentially fixed radius over geological ages as Fixed-Earth theories, and those which assume that the Earth’s radius has increased markedly over such ages as Expanding-Earth theories.

Fixed-Earth theories assume that the Earth has always been as it overtly appears today, and, due to lack of considering contrary evidence, is the currently-accepted paradigm among most scientists and the general public.

But examining the accumulated evidence supporting Expanding-Earth theories now makes Fixed-Earth totally untenable, and it is time for a paradigm shift to recognize Expanding-Earth as the accepted norm.

This article reviews the accumulation of evidence and deduction over the past several centuries, with indications of how this evidence best fits one or another of these theories.



Brief history



The scientific bases for both Fixed-Earth (FE) and Expanding-Earth (EE) theories had their origins back in the 1850s, though earlier thoughts on movement of continents had been expressed as soon as the coastline of eastern South America had been mapped and its similarity in shape to the west coast of Africa noticed. Interestingly, ancient Parsee texts dating back 3000 years refer to the Earth expanding.

More detail on the history and development of these theories appears in my book "Nuteeriat" [1], now available online. Here I examine some of these matters with respect to how they they accord with conventional FE theory, and EE theory as advanced here.



Continental drift



The concept that parts of the Earth’s land surfaces have moved relative to one another forms part of both FE and EE theories, and these days is hardly subject to doubt. In Fixed-Earth terms, the continents have ‘drifted’ apart, moving as ´tectonic plates´, while in Expanding-Earth terms, the planet has expanded under the present continental surfaces, leaving them separated in a similar way that small pieces of paper stuck on the surface of a partly-inflated balloon would appear to move apart as inflation continued.

A vital difference between FE and EE here, is that EE asserts that the current land masses once covered the whole surface of a smaller-radius planet.

EE theory embraces a natural explanation for how and why movement occurred. On the other hand, FE theory requires an as yet unverified mechanism to accomplish movement of land areas about the surface of a fixed-area Earth.

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RUSSIAN SCIENTIST SAYS THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS MOVING INTO A NEW ENERGY "ZONE" THAT IS TRANSFORMING THE MAGNETIC FIELDS OF THE PLANETS.



The scientific report below is so strange that I was not prepared to believe it or send it out to you until I contacted my old friend, peace poet, writer and translator, Igor Mikhailusenko in Moscow to find out if the scientist named below is a respected individual or just some kind of a kook. I can´t really investigate the science but the least I can do is ascertain the reliability of the scientist.

Igor reports that the man is well-known and respected among Russian scientists and therefore I pass on the very interesting report below. We have always looked on the sun as very permanent and unchanging. But in fact we have recently been reading American scientists´ reports of much larger magnetic storms on the sun than ever before. Sunspots have become larger or more numerous or the like, but no explanation has been offered. Now we may have it. I´ve not followed solar activity much but left it to others, not understanding that it could affect our real world situations.

Now it seems that what may really be happening is larger than just sun spot changes. It may actually be as Dr. Dmitriev seems to suggest that the entire solar system is moving into a new area of the heavens where things are indeed different.

We´ve always known that just as our planet revolves around the sun and in doing that passes through different areas so there are more meteorites at certain seasons than at others, so also the sun itself with the entire solar system around it has an orbit of its own. Orbit ? That would suggest a centre around which it revolves. I´m not sure of that, but it is clear that the entire solar system is not fixed in space. It must at least move with what some refer to as an "expanding universe".

Subject: Russian Scientist says planets´ atmospheres are Changing





This is the Russian perspective on earth changes :

Hard facts that are going unreported in America :

The atmospheres of the planets are changing :

Dr. Dmitriev´s work shows that the planets themselves are changing. They are undergoing changes in their atmospheres

For example the Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before. The Mars observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash, because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as they calculated, and basically the wind on that little mirror was so high that it blew it right off the device.

Earth´s moon is growing an atmosphere Also, the moon is growing an atmosphere that´s made up of a compound Dmitriev refers to as ´´Natrium.´´ Dmitriev says that, around the moon, there is this 6,000- kilometre- deep layer of Natrium that wasn´t there before. And we´re having this kind of change in Earth´s atmosphere in the upper levels, where HO gas is forming that wasn´t there before; it simply did not exist in the quantity that it does now. It´s not related to global warming and it´s not related to CFCs or fluorocarbon emissions or any of that stuff. It´s just showing up.

Magnetic fields and brightness of the planets are changing. The planets are experiencing sizable changes in their overall brightness. Venus, for example, is showing us marked increases in its overall brightness. Jupiter has gotten to have such a high energetic charge that there is actually a visible tube of ionising radiation that´s formed between its moon, Io. You can actually see the luminous energy tube in photographs that have been taken more

And the planets are having a change in their fields. The magnetic fields are becoming stronger.

Jupiter´s magnetic field has more than doubled. Uranus´s magnetic field is changing. Neptune´s magnetic field is increasing. These planets are becoming brighter. Their magnetic field strength is getting higher. Their atmospheric qualities are changing.

Uranus and Neptune appear to have had recent pole shifts. When the Voyager 2 space probe flew past Uranus and Neptune, the apparent north and south magnetic poles were sizably offset from where the rotational pole was. In one case, it was 50 degrees off, and in the other case the difference was around 40 degrees, both of which are pretty big changes. The overall changes could essentially be broken down into three categories: Energy field changes, luminosity changes, and atmospheric changes.

Overall volcanic activity has increased 500 percent since 1975 On the Earth, we´re seeing the changes even more completely. For example, Michael Mandeville has done research that has shown that the overall volcanic activity on the Earth since 1875 has increased by roughly 500 percent. The overall earthquake activity has increased by 400 percent just since 1973. Natural disasters increased 410 percent between 1963 and 1993

Dr. Dmitriev did a very elaborate calculation of natural disasters. He showed that if you compare the years 1963 through 1993, the overall amount of natural disasters of all different kinds - whether you are talking hurricanes, typhoons, mud slides, tidal waves, you name it - have increased by 410 percent.

The Sun´s magnetic field has increased by 230 percent since 1901

There´s a study by Dr. Mike Lockwood from Rutherford Appleton National Laboratories in California, who has been investigating the Sun. He has discovered that since 1901, the overall magnetic field of the Sun has become 230 percent stronger than it was before. More than just Earth Changes So, all in all, what we´re seeing is a lot more than just what they call Earth Changes. Some people get into the idea that there is an interaction between the Earth and the Sun that´s going on here.

Very, very few people are aware of the work that is being done in the Russian National Academy of Sciences in Siberia, specifically in Novosibirsk, where they are doing this research. They´ve come to the conclusion that the only possible thing that could be causing this energetic change all throughout the Solar System is that we are moving into an area of energy that is different - that is higher.

The glowing plasma at the leading edge of our Solar System has recently increased 1000 percent Now, check this out. The Sun itself has a magnetic field, of course, and that magnetic field creates an egg around the Solar System, which is known as the heliosphere. The heliosphere is shaped like a teardrop, with the long and thin end of the drop pointing in the opposite direction from the direction that we´re travelling. It´s just like a comet, where the tail is always pointing away from the Sun. The Russians have looked at the leading edge of this heliosphere, and they have observed glowing, excited plasma energy there.

This plasma energy used to be 10 astronomical units deep (an astronomical unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, 93,000,000 miles). So ten astronomical units represents the normal thickness of this glowing energy that we used to see at the front end of the Solar System. Today, that glowing plasma has gone to 100 astronomical units deep.

Although Dmitriev´s paper does not give an exact timeline, we can assume that this increase happened in the same 1963 to 1993 period as the increase he found in natural disasters. Whenever it happened, that´s a 1,000 percent increase in the overall brightness of the energy at the front end of the Solar System.

And this means that the Solar System itself is moving into an area where the energy is more highly charged. That higher-charged energy is in turn exciting the plasma and causing more of it to form, so you see more luminosity, more brightness. This energy is then flowing into the Sun, which in turn emits the energy and spreads it out along its equatorial plane, which is called the Ecliptic.

This in turn is saturating interplanetary space, which causes the solar emissions to travel more quickly and charge up the energy on the planets.

And this is conscious energy that is changing how the planet works, how it functions, and what kind of life it supports. The harmonics of the DNA spiral itself are altering. That´s the real, hidden cause of spontaneous mass evolutions in previous epochs of time.

All this is happening all at the same time, and it´s all working up to a crescendo where there is going to be a sudden shift. In other words, we will get to the point where we are so far into the new level of energy that there will be a sudden expansion of the basic harmonic wavelengths that the Sun emits as it radiates energy out of itself. This increase in energy emission will change the basic nature of all matter in the Solar System. The planets are pushed slightly farther away from the Sun and the atoms and molecules that make them up actually expand in terms of their physical size.
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"Earth´s moon is growing an atmosphere Also, the moon is growing an atmosphere that´s made up of a compound Dmitriev refers to as ´´Natrium.´´ Dmitriev says that, around the moon, there is this 6,000- kilometre- deep layer of Natrium that wasn´t there before"

natrium is salt
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"Where is it said it causes earthquakes?"

When did I say that, I just posted related to the original thread subject. Just for the sake of argument and Common sense though Idol, what happens when you squeeze a glass ball? It doesn´t take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Have you ever wondered why the majority of earthquakes are located in the central latitudes?
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This has already been debunked as fear-mongering.
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whos afraid pussy?kitty
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Have you ever wondered why the majority of earthquakes are located in the central latitudes?
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Not til now MM. Interesting question and interesting thread.
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This has already been debunked as fear-mongering.


No wonder you are No. 2!!!
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Where is it said it causes earthquakes?

Idol, do you bake?
"So put your hands down my pants and I'll bet you'll feel nuts
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"So live each and every day that you may look any man in the face and tell him to go to hell...! Edgar Cayce, reading 1739-6





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