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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5965957 Belgium 11/25/2011 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful posting that you're pro ows...Or anti establishment.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5976770 You'll get "baned" I realize that. I'm so used to getting banned here. I don't really care. And it tells a lot about "them" if they ban you for posting your opinion on a goddamn forum that is supposed to be "fair and balanced". |
Frater User ID: 1193197 United States 11/25/2011 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically the anti-OWS'ers are actually anti-leftists. Well, I'm pro-OWL and I'm not a leftist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965957 Fellow righwingers, give me one good reason we should continue with the fractional reserve banking system scam? So everything stays as it was before (meaning: getting worse step-by-step)? You DO realize that ponzi schemes ALWAYS collapse in the end, right? Unfortunately most don't understand central banking and money as debt with inflation and how that owns all the politicians. The New York Federal reserve is just a block or so away from the OWS people and they have no idea or very few do. It should be "Occupy The Federal Reserve"! They don't see the picture and would prefer to squabble about political nonsense; exactly as the central banks would have them. Best Wishes LVX! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5976770 United States 11/25/2011 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful posting that you're pro ows...Or anti establishment.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5976770 You'll get "baned" I realize that. I'm so used to getting banned here. I don't really care. And it tells a lot about "them" if they ban you for posting your opinion on a goddamn forum that is supposed to be "fair and balanced". |
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The_Viceroy User ID: 1454475 United States 11/25/2011 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically the anti-OWS'ers are actually anti-leftists. Well, I'm pro-OWL and I'm not a leftist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965957 Fellow righwingers, give me one good reason we should continue with the fractional reserve banking system scam? So everything stays as it was before (meaning: getting worse step-by-step)? You DO realize that ponzi schemes ALWAYS collapse in the end, right? Just because those of us on the right disagree about the solution doesn't mean that we don't equally acknowledge the problems. The right just has vastly different solutions that don't include collapsing the economy and ushering in authoritarian rule, which is what the OWS solution boils down to. No, they haven't said the second part in words but that's exactly what will happen to fill the vacuum of a collapse and it will include chaos, mass suffering and mass death as the left's antics generally do. Yes the right sees the same systemic problems that the OWS does. No, we disagree vehemently on your solution and will fight you tooth and nail to see that it is not imposed. That does not make us defenders of the status quo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6007225 United States 11/25/2011 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't bother. Most Americans think in black & white. If you don't like corporatism and the fractional reserve banking system scam, you're a "communist". Mildly amusing. What is the backup plan for after you people collapse the economy? Amuse us There is no good backup plan due to capitalism. Change will be at least a generation of pain, but it's better than the alternative of eternal debt slavery. What we need is a "no money system", but before we get to that point, we'll all have to understand the concept of oneness and understand our place and role in the universe. We can only reach this if we become an intelligent specie as a whole. Not gonna happen any time soon, I'm afraid... Although your intentions are good, you're a Dreamer. It'll never happen. Sorry |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6007225 United States 11/25/2011 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically the anti-OWS'ers are actually anti-leftists. Well, I'm pro-OWL and I'm not a leftist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965957 Fellow righwingers, give me one good reason we should continue with the fractional reserve banking system scam? So everything stays as it was before (meaning: getting worse step-by-step)? You DO realize that ponzi schemes ALWAYS collapse in the end, right? Just because those of us on the right disagree about the solution doesn't mean that we don't equally acknowledge the problems. The right just has vastly different solutions that don't include collapsing the economy and ushering in authoritarian rule, which is what the OWS solution boils down to. No, they haven't said the second part in words but that's exactly what will happen to fill the vacuum of a collapse and it will include chaos, mass suffering and mass death as the left's antics generally do. Yes the right sees the same systemic problems that the OWS does. No, we disagree vehemently on your solution and will fight you tooth and nail to see that it is not imposed. That does not make us defenders of the status quo. Well said |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1498874 United States 11/25/2011 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me exactly what OWS stands for and I might support it. I support their anti-bank bailout position, but the rest of their platform seems anti-business and downright communist & socialist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5073959 They are for confiscating money from those who have earned it, and handing it over to those who have NOT earned it ( themselves ). Screw 'em. yEP |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5965957 Belgium 11/25/2011 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically the anti-OWS'ers are actually anti-leftists. Well, I'm pro-OWL and I'm not a leftist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965957 Fellow righwingers, give me one good reason we should continue with the fractional reserve banking system scam? So everything stays as it was before (meaning: getting worse step-by-step)? You DO realize that ponzi schemes ALWAYS collapse in the end, right? Just because those of us on the right disagree about the solution doesn't mean that we don't equally acknowledge the problems. The right just has vastly different solutions that don't include collapsing the economy and ushering in authoritarian rule, which is what the OWS solution boils down to. No, they haven't said the second part in words but that's exactly what will happen to fill the vacuum of a collapse and it will include chaos, mass suffering and mass death as the left's antics generally do. Yes the right sees the same systemic problems that the OWS does. No, we disagree vehemently on your solution and will fight you tooth and nail to see that it is not imposed. That does not make us defenders of the status quo. We have 2 choices: Defending the current system - the status quo, that will eventually lead to a total financial collapse. The process will be long and painful. The middle class will slowly disappear, our children and grandchildren will be born with an unbearable amount of debt, more control for those in charge. New World Order. Total slavery. We lose. Game over. Or we protest, boycott, stop the mechanism that keeps this system ongoing. If only the whole world could stop working, using electricity, water, buying gas, etc... for just 1 week, the elite are on their knees and perhaps we save humanity from a horrific looming era of a totally enslaved microchipped population (after reducing the world population with 90%) in the process. I'd rather go with the latter, take the unavoidable shit now, so that future generations may have it better than us. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965957 Don't bother. Most Americans think in black & white. If you don't like corporatism and the fractional reserve banking system scam, you're a "communist". Mildly amusing. What is the backup plan for after you people collapse the economy? Amuse us There is no good backup plan due to capitalism. Change will be at least a generation of pain, but it's better than the alternative of eternal debt slavery. What we need is a "no money system", but before we get to that point, we'll all have to understand the concept of oneness and understand our place and role in the universe. We can only reach this if we become an intelligent specie as a whole. Not gonna happen any time soon, I'm afraid... Although your intentions are good, you're a Dreamer. It'll never happen. Sorry Never say never. I have hope for us, humans. I believe we will eventually evolve into an intelligent specie, but it will take centuries, if not millennia. |
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The_Viceroy User ID: 1454475 United States 11/26/2011 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically the anti-OWS'ers are actually anti-leftists. Well, I'm pro-OWL and I'm not a leftist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965957 Fellow righwingers, give me one good reason we should continue with the fractional reserve banking system scam? So everything stays as it was before (meaning: getting worse step-by-step)? You DO realize that ponzi schemes ALWAYS collapse in the end, right? Just because those of us on the right disagree about the solution doesn't mean that we don't equally acknowledge the problems. The right just has vastly different solutions that don't include collapsing the economy and ushering in authoritarian rule, which is what the OWS solution boils down to. No, they haven't said the second part in words but that's exactly what will happen to fill the vacuum of a collapse and it will include chaos, mass suffering and mass death as the left's antics generally do. Yes the right sees the same systemic problems that the OWS does. No, we disagree vehemently on your solution and will fight you tooth and nail to see that it is not imposed. That does not make us defenders of the status quo. We have 2 choices: Defending the current system - the status quo, that will eventually lead to a total financial collapse. The process will be long and painful. The middle class will slowly disappear, our children and grandchildren will be born with an unbearable amount of debt, more control for those in charge. New World Order. Total slavery. We lose. Game over. Or we protest, boycott, stop the mechanism that keeps this system ongoing. If only the whole world could stop working, using electricity, water, buying gas, etc... for just 1 week, the elite are on their knees and perhaps we save humanity from a horrific looming era of a totally enslaved microchipped population (after reducing the world population with 90%) in the process. I'd rather go with the latter, take the unavoidable shit now, so that future generations may have it better than us. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6007225 What is the backup plan for after you people collapse the economy? Amuse us There is no good backup plan due to capitalism. Change will be at least a generation of pain, but it's better than the alternative of eternal debt slavery. What we need is a "no money system", but before we get to that point, we'll all have to understand the concept of oneness and understand our place and role in the universe. We can only reach this if we become an intelligent specie as a whole. Not gonna happen any time soon, I'm afraid... Although your intentions are good, you're a Dreamer. It'll never happen. Sorry Never say never. I have hope for us, humans. I believe we will eventually evolve into an intelligent specie, but it will take centuries, if not millennia. That's a false choice because there is another option, the Tea Party option, which is a return to the first principles on which the US was founded, a shift of focus away from governments and politicians as the means to to solve our problems for us, a return to self-governance where important decisions are made within states and communities by the people that actually live there instead of one-size-fits-all solutions from disconnected and corrupted federal bureaucrats. Last Edited by The_Viceroy on 11/26/2011 08:24 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2561793 Netherlands 11/26/2011 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me exactly what OWS stands for and I might support it. I support their anti-bank bailout position, but the rest of their platform seems anti-business and downright communist & socialist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5073959 They are for confiscating money from those who have earned it, and handing it over to those who have NOT earned it ( themselves ). Screw 'em. yEP If wages were better and fraud did not exist we would all be rich. But now there are people who have 100.000 more wealth than another. For one, that is dangerous due to that person having power to corupt, but two, nobody has earned to have so much more than another. Did that person really contribute so much to our planet and society? It is sickening for our morals and culture. We wouldnt need wealth redistribution if it wasnt all so fucked up |
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The_Viceroy User ID: 1454475 United States 11/26/2011 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me exactly what OWS stands for and I might support it. I support their anti-bank bailout position, but the rest of their platform seems anti-business and downright communist & socialist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5073959 They are for confiscating money from those who have earned it, and handing it over to those who have NOT earned it ( themselves ). Screw 'em. yEP If wages were better and fraud did not exist we would all be rich. But now there are people who have 100.000 more wealth than another. For one, that is dangerous due to that person having power to corupt, but two, nobody has earned to have so much more than another. Did that person really contribute so much to our planet and society? It is sickening for our morals and culture. We wouldnt need wealth redistribution if it wasnt all so fucked up And what part of our morals and culture tells us to covet the property of another? There is no law, regulation or system of government that will fix what ails this country. We cannot "legislate morality" without trampling the rights and liberties of every single citizen in the process. We get the government we deserve. When we as a people deserve better, we will get better. |
The_Viceroy User ID: 1454475 United States 11/26/2011 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tell me exactly what OWS stands for and I might support it. I support their anti-bank bailout position, but the rest of their platform seems anti-business and downright communist & socialist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5073959 They are for confiscating money from those who have earned it, and handing it over to those who have NOT earned it ( themselves ). Screw 'em. yEP If wages were better and fraud did not exist we would all be rich. But now there are people who have 100.000 more wealth than another. For one, that is dangerous due to that person having power to corupt, but two, nobody has earned to have so much more than another. Did that person really contribute so much to our planet and society? It is sickening for our morals and culture. We wouldnt need wealth redistribution if it wasnt all so fucked up In what society has fraud never existed, Unicornville? |
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:) User ID: 6071282 Canada 11/26/2011 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically the anti-OWS'ers are actually anti-leftists. Well, I'm pro-OWL and I'm not a leftist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965957 Fellow righwingers, give me one good reason we should continue with the fractional reserve banking system scam? So everything stays as it was before (meaning: getting worse step-by-step)? You DO realize that ponzi schemes ALWAYS collapse in the end, right? Just because those of us on the right disagree about the solution doesn't mean that we don't equally acknowledge the problems. The right just has vastly different solutions that don't include collapsing the economy and ushering in authoritarian rule, which is what the OWS solution boils down to. No, they haven't said the second part in words but that's exactly what will happen to fill the vacuum of a collapse and it will include chaos, mass suffering and mass death as the left's antics generally do. Yes the right sees the same systemic problems that the OWS does. No, we disagree vehemently on your solution and will fight you tooth and nail to see that it is not imposed. That does not make us defenders of the status quo. I don't believe OWS is calling for a collapse of the economy, just acknowledging its inevitability and calling for a more benevolent replacement. |
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The_Viceroy User ID: 1454475 United States 11/27/2011 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically the anti-OWS'ers are actually anti-leftists. Well, I'm pro-OWL and I'm not a leftist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965957 Fellow righwingers, give me one good reason we should continue with the fractional reserve banking system scam? So everything stays as it was before (meaning: getting worse step-by-step)? You DO realize that ponzi schemes ALWAYS collapse in the end, right? Just because those of us on the right disagree about the solution doesn't mean that we don't equally acknowledge the problems. The right just has vastly different solutions that don't include collapsing the economy and ushering in authoritarian rule, which is what the OWS solution boils down to. No, they haven't said the second part in words but that's exactly what will happen to fill the vacuum of a collapse and it will include chaos, mass suffering and mass death as the left's antics generally do. Yes the right sees the same systemic problems that the OWS does. No, we disagree vehemently on your solution and will fight you tooth and nail to see that it is not imposed. That does not make us defenders of the status quo. I don't believe OWS is calling for a collapse of the economy, just acknowledging its inevitability and calling for a more benevolent replacement. Yes, many at OWS are calling for a collapse of the economy, or as they call it, a "reset". However if you ask them what exactly is going to fill the void left in the wake of a collapse, they either can't or won't answer. I know exactly what would fill the void, mass suffering, chaos, violence, death and authoritarian governance. TPTB in OWS know that too. However they are willing to put the country through all of this mayhem just to get to the endgame, which is the authoritarian part. The end justifies the means. However, I doubt that any sane person would consider this a viable and desirable scenario. The OWS rank and file are completely clueless to this. Clueless, useful idiots. |
:) User ID: 6133846 Canada 11/27/2011 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically the anti-OWS'ers are actually anti-leftists. Well, I'm pro-OWL and I'm not a leftist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5965957 Fellow righwingers, give me one good reason we should continue with the fractional reserve banking system scam? So everything stays as it was before (meaning: getting worse step-by-step)? You DO realize that ponzi schemes ALWAYS collapse in the end, right? Just because those of us on the right disagree about the solution doesn't mean that we don't equally acknowledge the problems. The right just has vastly different solutions that don't include collapsing the economy and ushering in authoritarian rule, which is what the OWS solution boils down to. No, they haven't said the second part in words but that's exactly what will happen to fill the vacuum of a collapse and it will include chaos, mass suffering and mass death as the left's antics generally do. Yes the right sees the same systemic problems that the OWS does. No, we disagree vehemently on your solution and will fight you tooth and nail to see that it is not imposed. That does not make us defenders of the status quo. I don't believe OWS is calling for a collapse of the economy, just acknowledging its inevitability and calling for a more benevolent replacement. Yes, many at OWS are calling for a collapse of the economy, or as they call it, a "reset". However if you ask them what exactly is going to fill the void left in the wake of a collapse, they either can't or won't answer. I know exactly what would fill the void, mass suffering, chaos, violence, death and authoritarian governance. TPTB in OWS know that too. However they are willing to put the country through all of this mayhem just to get to the endgame, which is the authoritarian part. The end justifies the means. However, I doubt that any sane person would consider this a viable and desirable scenario. The OWS rank and file are completely clueless to this. Clueless, useful idiots. The "reset" is coming with or without OWS. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3104627 United States 11/27/2011 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd say I'm against any smelly, pooing in public, smearing feces, has parasitic tendencies, disrespect for working people, wants a handout, refuses to work,can't understand why they can't get a job after majoring in 17th century poetry, all the while reaping in the benefits that they received for obtaining this most prestigious diploma. I'd have to say. I'm anti hippie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6133083 United States 11/27/2011 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd say I'm against any smelly, pooing in public, smearing feces, has parasitic tendencies, disrespect for working people, wants a handout, refuses to work,can't understand why they can't get a job after majoring in 17th century poetry, all the while reaping in the benefits that they received for obtaining this most prestigious diploma. I'd have to say. Quoting: aggieranch I'm anti hippie Stereotype much? |
BlackCat User ID: 4986157 United States 11/27/2011 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do I support a protest that has no real defined focus? If anything violent ever came from it, they screamed it is a plant, or that they are not responsible in anyway. They want their loans paid & completely wiped clean? They hurt, destroy property of small business owners, part of the 99% they say they "represent". They attack business that refuse to give then free food, etc. They had guys claiming to be Iraq & afghanistan vets with exit dates that could not support their BS claims of service!! The unreported sexual assaults. The taunting of the cops, then the moaning when they get exactly what they were instigating from the cops. They claim to be disadvantaged, but get angry at sharing their gourmet food with the homeless etc. Shall I go on & on & on? In the VERY beginning I could relate to their frustration... but to be honest most turned out to be just a bunch of adults throwing temper tantrums when they didn't get what their entitlement attitudes made them believe they deserved. They DO NOT represent the 99%, if anything their actions have hurt the 99%. Sure they have the right to protest, I could give a shiat.... But am I Pro-OWS? Hell no!!! They claim the government is the problem, but yet want thew government to take care of them. They claim Big Business is the problem, but yet had a moment of silence for Steve Jobs?? WTF? If they wanted to be taken more seriously then they should be protesting on the white house lawn, not shitting in the streets, or pissing or smearing blood all over small business hotdog carts that cannot and will not feed them for free. By watching their entitlement attitudes -that assumes the rest of us carry the burden of supporting the very programs they want to support them, and watching their actions thru-out..... I am completely ANTI-OWS. Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong. ~Richard Armour There are always too many Democratic congressmen, too many Republican congressmen, and never enough U.S. congressmen. ~Author Unknown *So I am an Ultra feminist because I won't buy into your 'ALL Women are evil' crap? No wait... Maybe I am a woman hater because I won't buy into your mantra that 'ALL men are evil and are responsible for everything wrong in my life' crap??? So be it ~At least I am not a drooling whiney idiot for buying into the -male vs Female gender war games- to begin with!! |