Great week all in all..Right now DOW +107, unemployment getting better

And thanks all for the green karma!!

As our resident anti-doomer, maybe you can explain to me why 600,000 people saying, "Screw it," gets to be counted as good for unemployment. Always wondered about that...

Haha, are you kidding me?
We are heading higher because it is christmas shopping time??

lol
Dont be such a fool, wait for january doom instead

Hey Rev!

What industries/jobs were those 600,000 people in?

I think big numbers like that make headlines, what's the real story behind them?

And I can speak from experience.

I was laid off in December 2009, can't get much worse in terms of timing. FACT

Knowing the market was tight, I was willing to take a risk and try something different (and uncomfortable)..I took a sales job (never did it before) while looking (I was an IT executive..not bragging, that's what I was. Even in good times it would take 4-5 months to find something else).

I could have sat on my ass and collected. Instead I at least put the effort in to try. It didn't work out too bad, made some sales but the market was public sector (uggh in NJ).

Eventually I found another job that's even better than my old one and with better prospects to move into a CIO level position.

That's my story. The point is I was willing to step out of my comfort zone and try something else. I've read a lot of the stories about the long term unemployed..it doesn't look like a lot of them are willing to take the extra effort.

Not bragging at all. But I think my story is quite relevant to your question.

Back in 2009, the economy was S.H.I.T. No question.

Now its MUCH better. Personal observation and experience.

Yeah, it does seem rather odd that we have not had a single month this year where job growth has kept up with population growth, yet the unemployment rate went down.

For those of you who don't know, we need to creat about 150,000 - 200,000 new jobs each month just to keep up with populatin growth and kids entering the work force. Also, even this number may be low because a large number of people who are retirement age have either put off retirement or are re-entering the workforce. So like you stated, it is coming from funny math from the government.

Zazz did say the number is BS too, so we can't take that away from him. Also, I pray to god his evaluation of our economy is correct and that me and the other financial doom tards are wrong. This is one time I really want to be wrong, because I have a feeling mad max scenarios won't be quite as fun in real life as they are on tv...

This article is interesting from CNBC...right on topic

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I hear you man...

Read the CNBC article is posted on this thread (above).

I like the parallel between the woman who made efforts to better herself (taking classes) versus the other factory worker guy (who knows what he did)

22 years doing the same job? Eventually technology is going to make you obsolete. Sorry, as cold as that is, its the truth.

Wait till February and March- those are always the slowest months of the year. It may look good now but this is Aldo suppossed to be the busiest time of the year. We will see- I hope to get back to work myself soon, so I hope it shapes up;-)

sounds good to me!!! thanks!!

This site will be in full meltdown mode if the economy goes up and up and Obama is re-elected as a result lol.

Zazz, I have owned the same business for several years. I am returning to healthcare after a eight year absence. My customer base was extremely varied. From fortune 100 companies to .gov and let me assure you, you are fortunate to be experiencing this Renaissance that you allege you are experiencing.

While my business is still profitable, I do not know for how long, therefore, I am not waiting around to see what is going to happen next.

I am consulting and leasing my lands for commuter ranchers and hunting leases. I too am proactive, I too don't sit on the government tit, but you cannot tell me you don't see the BS behind these contrived and manipulated numbers?

The unemployment numbers are not accurate, go to shadowstats and see for yourself. Furthermore, the DOW is being held up with 'hope'.

Nothing is better, zero. Bankers' war continues and it will for some time. 9/11, gee what was that? Someone has to answer for it, as usual it is the know nothings do nothings. Good luck all, trust you mom, dad and kids, that's it.

zazz wth man?! i was so excited to log in. here i was feeling extra doomy today. you have to go and ruin my doomy mood with your upbeat pesimism. FINE! i guess i will go play with the kids or hug my wife. thanks a lot!

edit: optimism (see i am beside myself)

No problem!

dow up 7% this week! Awesome stuff....

Yeah, I don't know what everyone's uptight about...economy never been better, I just sold 10 apples on the street corner today!

Good job!

Unemployment------------Seasonal hiring

This is fun, but you know it is what it is. This has to stop, they must be brought to justice, like now.

Want my two cents? They are keeping the DOW elevated and pulling fairy tale unemployment figures out of their a** in order to keep the sheep distracted while they pass this bill S-1867 declaring war on the American people. You didn't think they would pass that bill AND let the DOW and unemployment tank, did you? Distraction is the name of the game!

TPTB know they have to ease up a bit right before the elections to get who they want in there. Just wait until after the elections, that's when they will pull the rug and continue on with the destruction of the U.S.

Watch for things to get a little better on up until the elections. They do it every time. The only difference is this times things are much worse than ever before and even just a little which easing will not mean much in reality...just enough to get their man in.



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You are DELUSIONAL.
Understand why and what is going on behind the scenes that creates your ILLUSION OF "ALL IS WELL".




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high-speed computer trading can create a lot of activity but not necessarily anything tangible market's usually for monied interests anyways it's not capitalism there is no capital

Dude, I can only hope that your post is dripping in sarcasm. The "recovery" is fucking BULLSHIT.

And it's funny, they fail to mention that some 300,000+ folks stopped looking for work altogether.

This farce of a fucking system needs to melt and go away (at least the pieces of shit "running" this country/world.

TeCh™

going from $13-25 to $8-10 an hour is not getting better.